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New Starbucks Partnership With Microsoft Allows Customers To Pay For Frappuccinos With Bitcoin (cnbc.com)

Earlier this week, Nestle said it was jumping on the blockchain bandwagon, today, Starbucks said it is ready to top that. From a report: The Seattle-based coffee giant is working with Microsoft and a leading global exchange on a new digital platform that will allow consumers to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies at Starbucks. Starbucks along with Intercontinental Exchange, Microsoft and BCG, among others, is working to launch a new company called Bakkt that will enable consumers and institutions to buy, sell, store and spend cryptocurrencies on the global network by November. The platform with convert bitcoin and other cryptocoins into U.S. dollars that can be used to buy a Cold Foam Cascara Cold Brew, Matcha Lemonade or anything else at Starbucks. Starbucks has consistently been at the forefront of embracing new technologies. For instance, it added support for mobile payments in 2011. In May, it was estimated that Starbucks' mobile payment solution is more popular than those of Apple and Google.

In a statement, Maria Smith, vice president of partnerships and payments for Starbucks, "As the flagship retailer, Starbucks will play a pivotal role in developing practical, trusted and regulated applications for consumers to convert their digital assets into US dollars for use at Starbucks. As a leader in Mobile Pay to our more than 15 million Starbucks Rewards members, Starbucks is committed to innovation for expanding payment options for our customers."

According to Starbucks spokespeople, Motherboard reports, Starbucks doesn't want bitcoins, but it's willing to help people spend them -- the venture is an exchange that will allow people to convert their cryptocurrency into US dollars, which they can then spend at Starbucks locations.

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  1. That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with bitcoins is that they are too volatile. That $5.00 Coffee you bought today could have a opportunity cost of $15.00 next year. Vs using the Dollar where that $5.00 would have an opportunity cost of $5.15 the next year.

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    1. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      I was thinking the opposite could be true, too: you pay with bitcoin, and before COB for the day it manages to tank and what was $5.00 worth of bitcoin is now $0.05 worth.

    2. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with bitcoins is that they are too volatile.

      I'm sure Microsoft can manage a sufficiently fast price update rate using DirectX 12.0.

      That's not the problem. The problem is that there can only be half a dozen Bitcoin transactions per second IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

      This means the Bitcoin transaction fee will cost more than three times what the coffee is worth.

      Serious question: I wonder if anybody at Starbucks or Microsoft actually knows how Bitcoin works?

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    3. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I was thinking the opposite could be true, too: you pay with bitcoin, and before COB for the day it manages to tank and what was $5.00 worth of bitcoin is now $0.05 worth.

      That's exactly why Starbucks isn't actually collecting any BTC. They're using a payment processor which is collecting BTC, and which pays them in USD on your behalf. Starbucks never actually sees a bitcoin.

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    4. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by mysidia · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's theoretically possible, and maybe a possible situation, but not that realistic a scenario. Crypto exchange rates have been volatile, yes, but NOT nearly as volatile as you are implying. We don't see the value decreasing to 1/100th what it was or increasing 100x all in one day. The largest single-day change for BTC ever was approximately 25% which was on major news events.

    5. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by xtal · · Score: 3, Informative

      Serious question: Do you know why the Lightning Network was developed and how it works?

      If they're going to use LN, this is a perfect application to demonstrate mass scaling.

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    6. Re:That sounds like a bad buisness plan. by Kaenneth · · Score: 2

      Except you are missing the 'network' part; with modern routing techniques.

      Just like you connect to your ISP, you'll open a lightning channel to a payment provider; who has open channel to as many other payment providers as they can (like ISP peering); who in turn, will have a channel to the wallet you are sending to. (the other 'last mile')

      The payment providers advertise their routes with the fee rates, and the cheapest path is automatically selected.

      Automatic, cryptographically secure bidding for the lowest rates for financial services.

  2. Re:So Crypto is getting ... by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... mouth-to-mouth to try and create a market nobody asked for.

    It is actually worse than that.

    Every time that I read something about BitCoin or any other crypto-currency it is clear that the "currency" part of it (technically described as "proof of work") is nothing more than "proof I was able to most efficiently turn a quantity of electricity into waste heat."

    Given that how far we yet have to go to achieve worldwide sustainable energy production, I find it odd (hypocritical, even?) that so many socially conscious companies and organizations now effectively encourage people to waste electricity.

    I get that not every occupation makes the same contribution to society, but generating crypto-currency has to rank near the bottom by producing effectively zero net benefit. Even a grave digger at the end of the day has performed a service for someone else.

  3. Re:The lady doth protest too much by sexconker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hipsters ... buying hipster coffee ... with hipster money ... using their hipster phones ... so they can sit their with their hipster Macbooks ... using their hipster apps to post pictures to hipster social media ... so that other fucking hipsters spending their hipster money in hipster coffee shops can all knowingly nod their hipster beards in what passes as a hipster gesture of approval before posting their own hipster drivel.

    It's mother fucking hipsters all the way down, I tell 'ya.

    Let me guess... you disliked hipsters before it was cool to dislike hipsters.

    Impossible. It was always cool to dislike hipsters.

  4. Re:Thats not what the calcs are doing by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    We can argue about how efficient that process is or isn't but it is incorrect to say the proof is only turning electricity into heat. It's purpose is more than that.

    As long as there are viable alternatives to proof-of-work (there are) and the processing behind BTC has no point other than proof-of-work (it doesn't) then its effective purpose is only turning electricity into heat. If it were at least one of the forms of cryptocurrency which does useful work, then the work wouldn't simply be a waste, and BTC wouldn't be a waste. But it isn't, so it is, and it is.

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  5. This was inevitable for them by Memnos · · Score: 3, Funny

    Starbucks was going to get involved with blockchain technology eventually. Starbucks is a chain, and there's one on every block. Synergy.

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