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New Anti-Cancer Drug Put Cancers To Sleep In Mice -- Permanently (medicalxpress.com)

"Australian scientists have taken a 'major step forward' in the world of cancer research," reports ABC (the national broadcaster of Australia). Long-time Slashdot reader Artem Tashkinov quotes an announcement from the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research: In a world first, Melbourne scientists have discovered a new type of anti-cancer drug that can put cancer cells into a permanent sleep, without the harmful side-effects caused by conventional cancer therapies.

Published today in the journal Nature, the research reveals the first class of anti-cancer drugs that work by putting the cancer cell to sleep -- arresting tumour growth and spread without damaging the cells' DNA.

The new class of drugs could provide an exciting alternative for people with cancer, and has already shown great promise in halting cancer progression in models of blood and liver cancers, as well as in delaying cancer relapse.

One of the lead researchers says the new compounds "had already shown great promise in preclinical testing."

56 comments

  1. Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show me the baby!

    Sounds like taking this drug would be a great way to prevent cancer in the first place. A drug that healthy people have to take routinely for the rest of their lives to prevent substantial risk of death? Sound$ like a winner to me.

    1. Re:Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, this is exactly the kind of "cure" the drug companies want. They don't want to cure cancer. They want to make sure you're a customer for life.

    2. Re: Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by datavirtue · · Score: 0

      This way you can keep eating sugar and live long enough to die of diabetes!! Cancer can't live in oxygen rich environments...it needs sugar to fuel its cells. Of course the American cancer association can't issue a statement to cut your sugar back to paleolithic levels and close its doors...nor would the AMA cut off the medical industry from its main source of fear, power, and money. Change is going to be very slow.

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    3. Re: Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I would gladly accept a pill I need to take for the rest of my life that works every time over the current form of treatment that may or may not cure me, but will leave me feeling as though I might just be half dead.

      But even if that comes to pass and these researchers become filthy rich from charging ridiculous prices, that only creates a massive incentive for someone else to find a cheaper solution. Even if no one does, eventually we get generics after the patents expire and there will be plenty of countries that make their own versions of the drug for cheap as they could not care less about the profits of some foreign drug company or keeping the Western governments behind them happy.

    4. Re: Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But even if that comes to pass and these researchers become filthy rich from charging ridiculous prices, that only creates a massive incentive for someone else to find a cheaper solution. Even if no one does

      The hard part isn't finding a cheaper solution, the hard part is finding a solution that doesn't infringe on patents.
      Sometimes the patents locks down something so fundamental that you just can't get around it and have to wait it out.

    5. Re: Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ooh -- a medical news story on slashdot.

      I wonder how long it will take me to find an unhinged, conspiracy theory based, batshit, bugfuck crazy comment. Aaaaaaand there it is.

    6. Re: Don't tell me about the pain, researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Cancer can't live in oxygen rich environments' is probably true but also BS (nothing can live in an oxygen rich environment if its rich enough) but there probably is a link between sugar consumption and cancer risk, however, there is a link between overconsumption of a lot of different things and cancer.

  2. Where can I get this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And when?

  3. Exiting Alternative ? by bobstreo · · Score: 0

    I question that wording. I don't think it's exciting. If human trials prove out, I don't know of anyone who would prefer traditional treatment, well except the drug companies.

  4. Big Pharma will sell for one million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will probably be the most expensive drug in history if it does work with lesser side effects as existing treaments.

    1. Re:Big Pharma will sell for one million by olsmeister · · Score: 1

      Well I would assume you could always select the cheaper treatments if that's what you wanted, and deal with the side effects and higher risk of dying.

    2. Re:Big Pharma will sell for one million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How was the research funded?

      University (Monash) research discovered it. If it was funded with Australian government funding, how does Australia treat that?

  5. Who has the count? by moehoward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't we all hire someone here on Slashdot to keep track of all the miracle cancer cures? This may have been in the late 90's.

    Number of cancer cures announced in stories on Slashdot >= Number of flying-car-coming-tomorrow stories on Slashdot

    Maybe it was me who we hired. I forget. I may have been the one who was supposed to keep track of the Alzheimer cure stories.

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    1. Re:Who has the count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, articles about breakthroughs in battery capacity.

    2. Re:Who has the count? by moehoward · · Score: 1

      Have you SEEN the battery capacity of the Gigafactory?

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    3. Re:Who has the count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I haven't.

    4. Re:Who has the count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Who has the count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you not seen a modern cellphone? Batteries are 10x more energy dense than 10 years ago. In the next year, batteries entering the market will support charging 8x faster without any degradation to cycle life or increased life cycles at slower charge rates. We already have 220v 36amp quick chargers for cars. Can you image batteries that can handle 8x that? The bottleneck is shifting.

    6. Re:Who has the count? by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

      Not so fast. Switching off all cells in the body from creating new cells, while it will certainly retard the cancers ability to proliferate, when ALL cells stop dividing you are essentially at the end-game of life. "No new cells" == "dying". They still need to identify which cells need killing before they can allow everything to be switched back on, until then you are in a physical decline and unable to repair any new injuries. The drug is merely delaying the inevitable problem long enough that personalized genetic analysis and custom cures may then be possible.

    7. Re: Who has the count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol Read the article properly
       

  6. straya! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Carnt

  7. Permanently, or until the money runs out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because due to "profit" reasons, it is usually the latter.
    Which is very damn close to putting the gun on somebody's head and threatening to shoot as soon as the cash flow stops.

    And don't even try the "research" argument. An AMA on Reddit made very clear what this "research" usually consists of: Finding some natural drug, that have been known by shamans or doctors for forever, purifying the active component, and tinkering with it, following the motto "I have no idea what I'm doing". (Seriously, I've heard from multiple chemists in such companies, that basically, they try varying modifications, until one turns out to have an interesting effect. ... They honestly can't tell in advance ... I'm OK with that. I'm just not OK with acting like it is oh-so scientific and skilled.)
    If it fails to sell well under its main effect, they even declare the biggest side-effect the new main effect, and try to sell it that way. See: Viagra.

    In any case, there is no correlation between the amount of work done to come up with the drug, and the amount of work people have to do, to pay for it. That's the problem. Patents were created, to make sure people could recoup the money from that work. After that, the ideas should and must be free, since the worth was already paid. But patents and the like got abused to take way more, by enforcing an artificial scarcity monopoly (... both of which major crimes ...) and not working one freaking bit for that additional money.

    That is where the crime lies: Profit.

    [Watch this comment go down and be called "socialist/communist" like a prescription crack whore when the prescription crack runs out. Despite it being just as well a "free market" argument. "I.P." laws are the epitome of anti-free-market.]

    1. Re:Permanently, or until the money runs out? by muecksteiner · · Score: 1

      Seriously, I've heard from multiple chemists in such companies, that basically, they try varying modifications, until one turns out to have an interesting effect. ... They honestly can't tell in advance ... I'm OK with that. I'm just not OK with acting like it is oh-so scientific and skilled.

      Because being able to isolate the active ingredient(s) in some natural remedy, manipulating its chemical structure in a controlled fashion, and conducting meaningful and repeatable experiments on whether the modified compound is any better than the original is of course not science by any standard, right?

      Just because the question of which modifications actually increase or decrease the viability of a given compound is not easily answered up front, this does not automatically mean that the entire process is bogus. Or, for that matter, particularly cheap for the entity which conducts the research (and which, predictably, wants to see some return on investment later). In turn, this of course means that if there was some way to conduct pharma research in a more focused manner, the profit seekers would be all over it. Trouble is, computational chemistry (especially in organics) has been a long way in coming, so there is no real alternative to tinkering. Yet.

    2. Re:Permanently, or until the money runs out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drug science aside, the main point about profit motive and artificial scarcity stands. With advertising investment that vastly outstrips R&D, the system is not functioning in the human interest.

      Intellectual "Property" is a scourge on progress. The combination of ideas is an inherently exponential process, and granting monopolies on every step, no matter how obvious, is smothering a vast potential for progress.

  8. Universal anticancer by manu0601 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is remarkable is that they claim to target any cancer. Cancer is hard to cure because it is as diverse as people.

    TFA says they induced senescence - the lack of ability to divide - to cancer cells, but they do not tell us how they managed to target cancer cells only.

    1. Re:Universal anticancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they do not tell us how they managed to target cancer cells only.

      The Nature article might tell how they did it. (I tried to read the article, but it was way over my head.)

    2. Re:Universal anticancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The patient died cured!

    3. Re:Universal anticancer by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Welp, I'd only moderated a bit but...I'm not buying the article, so I'm going to have to stick to the abstract, which should have enough to answer the important questions.

      The non-technical version is that it is targeting two specific genes that controls the copying of DNA--and to be honest it's not genes specific to cancer cells though mutations involving this gene can be a cause of cancer in many different cells. (Usually, however, you can and do denote as much.) It may be that the things they tested are not merely specific inhibitors of the genes they discuss but also only get the version that would be causing cancer, but it doesn't mention that in the abstract. Several of these things are the sort of information that I would hope Nature have insisted get mentioned in the abstract, actually, since it's rather important...but they're a pay-to-read so I guess sticking important information behind the paywall matters.

      If people are really interested, I can snag a copy via other means and do a summary.

    4. Re:Universal anticancer by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      It's not clear that they're claiming they targeted cancer cells only. What's neat is the senescence, and the animal models don't need to survive generally. There are other means to target cancer cells, so a combination of techniques seems like further research.

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    5. Re:Universal anticancer by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      That idea, the identification of cancer cells leads to the probable best way to treat them. Find exactly what is different in cancer cells and target that difference with a tag, the body will identity as foreign and then attack itself. So rather than attempting to destroy the cancer cells, let the existing immune system do that for you, all you need to do is tag that cell, so the immune system will now recognise and attack it.

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    6. Re:Universal anticancer by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      If by that you mean "find it on SciHub", yeah, that'd be kinda nice if you did.

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  9. Go read king of all maladies by f00zbll · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you read the book, you'll see that scientists have cured cancer in mice for more 2 decades, but it never works in humans. Anyone foolish enough to believe the hype isn't thinking clearly and has a sad understanding of science.

    1. Re:Go read king of all maladies by mentil · · Score: 2

      That's it, I'm using CRISPR to turn myself into a mouse.

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    2. Re:Go read king of all maladies by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 2

      It's not that it never works in humans, a rather significant number of drugs just never really make it to the market for various reasons--including things like not wanting to have to deal with lawsuits from idiots who didn't pay attention when told that this only sometimes worked/needed time to work/only worked on very specific cancers/any and all combinations thereof. It's expensive to do human testing, too, especially since having somebody drop dead while you're testing it may result in an auto-fail even if it's almost certainly not anything whatsoever to do with the drug.

      Drug agencies tend to be rather paranoid about letting drugs onto the market...and pretty laid back once it has been, never mind that (especially in diverse countries) there are some side effects you just cannot expect to routinely and reliably catch in testing.

  10. The same tactic.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. worked against the Borg.

    1. Re:The same tactic.... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Was exactly my first thought. Now just fire phasers at the disabled cells!

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  11. For an effective and lasting cure, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See Targeted alpha therapy. It would be well-developed today if not for a contingent of ignorant and foolish people resistant to progress in this area, many who hold thinly veiled anti-human beliefs often masquerading as environmentalism.

    However, why cure disease, when big pharma can sell an expensive life-long drug treatment? Perhaps societies should be rethinking how they fund medicine, and direct it to improving human health instead of maximizing profit.

    1. Re:For an effective and lasting cure, by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

      Was disturbed to see on that Immortals Netflix documentary how Cambridge students voted against extending lifespans.

      Education is the process invoked to turn young humans into Josef Stalins.

      The other scandalous thing, if you watch Ken Burn's documentary on cancer, is that immunotherapy research could have started back in the 70's with the war on cancer ... but it didn't because ... the academic elite didn't think it had academic significance.

      Makes it hard for me to not question the significance of academics and centrally managed research (or central anything).

  12. Cells don't "sleep" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you want to try that again? What the fuck are you talking about? This is not the Fox news audience.

  13. If only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mice could pay for the treatment. Of course this comes up every. few. years.

  14. jargon deficit disorder by epine · · Score: 1

    The lead managed not to name the researchers, the cancer drugs, or the cancer targets.

    blah blah VAGUE blah blah VAGUE blah blah VAGUE

    News for Nerds with jargon deficit disorder.

  15. friendly reminder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mice are not humans, they just have better healthcare.

  16. The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are not mice. We are not rats. We are humans.

    Our bodies and immune systems work differently than animals.

    If we ever want to 'cure' cancer, we have to do human testing to see what works and what doesn't. It's the only true way to advance our medical science.

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  18. Life Insurance and Pension Annuities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All these breakthroughs are bad news for the government and HMO's / Health Insurance.
    Life expectancy for those with some savings is now 88 years odd and growing.
    Ths places pressure on housing, and aged services, and angry voters over the magic age of 72 where many covers end. This ,means young workers must be taxed MORE or compulsory saving . Forget medical - old age survivors are big business.

    Cancer. Doctors previously knew cancers were just defective healing processes when they did not 'turn off' You cut your self - it heals, then stops healing - why?
    This cure is verry very bad for surgeons, as many cancers develop later in life due to microplastics and methylmercury and assorted modern irritants. Being cancer suppressants/poisons are big business - if true this could be ruinious - hence no big pharma doing that line of research. Plus CRISPR.

    In all healtcare premiums must rise because of this pissant dscovery, and if that dont get you, dementia care will. And this is why Obamacare must go, and the deplorables accept early death and suffering because they did not save enough. Average people do not deserve premium healthcare for free. Bring on Nembutol.

  19. Another cancer breakthrough we'll never see again by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    The cancer drug I will take when the time comes will be the new one announced by China that US and European pharma will angrily call a theft of its own IP. That's how I will know it's not just another bullshit folk remedy.

  20. Very good by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 0

    However, mice are not people: I think that cures that have shown to have quasi-miraculous effects on mice have, without exception, proved to be far, far less effective on people.

  21. I hope it works out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But there have been a lot of promising drug that just never panned out.

  22. Gee Whiz!!!!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee Whiz Gee Whiz Gee Whiz Gee Whiz Gee Whiz Gee Whiz Gee Whiz

    Um, don't hold your breath.

  23. Perhaps more accurately.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is its too much to ask for a little bit of basic accuracy. Cancer cells do not ever "sleep". There are definitely growth factors encoded in their DNA, and growth-control genes that are missing, broken, or surpassed. But please, no sleep analogies, please.

  24. Great opportunity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're near the Tasmanian Devils, why not help animals for a variation?

    I know you cannot treat the ones in the wild, but if we get the cancer to become latent, maybe we have time to save more specimens from death until an effective cure is found -- and thus preserve gene varieties, which in turn would make the species stronger.

    It must be one of the most horrible ways to die. And the lessons learned may one day help our own species.

  25. Cured of Cancer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try to use method(s) to cure Senator McCain from his cancer...

  26. For those who can't be bothered to read... by LetterRip · · Score: 1

    It works by targeting mutations of the KAT6A and KAT6B - which are common in a variety of cancers.

    When the cells are functioning normally they can be inhibited to put a cell into senescene (sleep) after specific functions are completed, but the mutations result in the these genes being permanently on and never going back to sleep.

    Here is a good summary from the end of the nature article,

    n summary, using high-throughput screening followed by medicinal chemistry optimization, in-cell assays, biochemical assessment of target engagement and tumour models in mice and fish, we have developed a novel class of inhibitors for a hitherto unexplored category of epigenetic regulators. These inhibitors engage the MYST family of lysine acetyltransferases in primary cells, specifically induce cell cycle exit and senescence, and are effective in preventing the progression of lymphoma in mice.

    They didn't note (and don't seem to know) why it doesn't impact health cells but it apparently doesn't based on current testing.

    1. Re:For those who can't be bothered to read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not exactly. Even unmutated these are oncogenes. The problem is overexpression of these genes, leading to increased cell division.

    2. Re:For those who can't be bothered to read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't note (and don't seem to know) why it doesn't impact health cells but it apparently doesn't based on current testing.

      It took researchers over 40 years to figure out how Tylenol works.

  27. The cure is just around the corner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . where it's been for the last 75 years