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Popular Subscription Email Service Newton Mail Is Being Discontinued (thurrott.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: CloudMagic, the makers of Newton, today announced that Newton Mail is being discontinued. The company is no longer allowing new users to purchase Newton Mail which costs $100 a year, and existing users will be provided with refunds. For those using the monthly subscription plan, it will immediately stop automatically renewing. And for those on the yearly subscription, you will be given a refund on a pro-rata basis. "We explored various business models but couldn't successfully figure out profitability & growth over the long term. It was hard; the market for premium consumer mail apps is not big enough, and it faces stiff competition from high-quality free apps from Google, Microsoft, and Apple," said Rohit Nadhani, the founder and CEO of CloudMagic. All of that makes sense -- when we have companies like Microsoft and Google making brilliant free email clients like Outlook Mobile and Inbox, there really is no space for paid apps like Newton on the market.
Beau loves censorship. Ain't that right, Beau?
probably shouldn't have been skimming the books so much, Rohit
It was a piece of shit back in the day and its move to the web is as yucky as predicted: piece of shit microsoft proprietary formatted crap.
Man i hate it.
NO SIG
I'm shocked. Shocked! That a $100 a year email client didn't fly in 2018! How can this be? I'll be rethinking my investment in Friendster now, for sure!
for around 60/yr run your own mail server in the cloud. I pay 10/mo for the next tier up server. More than enough power to run a mail server.
Translation: our customers are wrong. By refusing to continue doing business with them, we are teaching them that they prefer our competitors' products. When they have no choice but to leave us, we think they'll finally do it.
Exposing a longstanding lie blunt even by his standards, President Trump on Sunday confessed by tweet that the purpose of the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his campaign and a Kremlin-linked lawyer was “to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics.”
It was left to his lawyer Jay Sekulow to try to clean up the mess. Addressing whether the meeting constituted a criminal violation, Sekulow told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that “you have to look at what laws, rules, regulations, statutes are purportedly violated here.”
So let’s do that. Meeting with a foreign power to get assistance with a presidential campaign is not totally legal; special counsel Robert S. Mueller III almost certainly could indict Donald Trump Jr. today for what is publicly known about the meeting; and the president should be deeply concerned about his own liability.
Mueller’s February indictment of the Internet Research Agency, and associated Russian entities and individuals, charged a conspiracy to influence the election to damage Hillary Clinton, Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and support Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump — let’s call it an electioneering conspiracy. The indictment charged violations of 18 U.S. Code 371 — conspiracy to commit an offense against, or to defraud United States.
The Trump Tower meeting clearly fits established definitions of “conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
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Under the “defraud clause,” as precedent and the U.S. Attorneys’ Manual make clear, the statute criminalizes “any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of government,” even if the object of the conspiracy is not a criminal offense. According to Mueller’s indictment, the conspiracy sought to defraud the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Justice — the agencies charged with preventing foreign nationals from making contributions, donations or expenditures (which can include not just money, but any “thing of value”) that would influence U.S. elections.
Conspiracy law, it’s important to note, punishes the act of agreeing to a forbidden goal regardless of whether that goal is achieved. So long as the government can establish that targets agreed to pursue the conspiratorial objective, they may be prosecuted as co-conspirators. Conspirators need only agree to help bring about the object of a conspiracy even if they are not aware of all the details of the conspiracy itself. For example, in “chain-conspiracies” usually involving narcotics, lower-level buyers and sellers are included in larger distribution conspiracy so long as they have some understanding of the existence of the larger plot.
The Trump Tower meeting clearly fits established definitions of “conspiracy to defraud the United States.” In early June, Trump Jr. received an email explaining that a Russian government official wanted to provide his father’s campaign with incriminating documents and information about Clinton as part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump." Trump Jr. replied, "if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer.” The June 9 meeting was confirmed two days earlier, on June 7. That night, Trump announced that he would “give a major speech” in the next week to discuss “all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons.”
On the face of it, Trump Jr. was approached by a foreign government seeking to influence an American election. Trump Jr. welcomed the possibility of influence, and candidate Trump’s actions, while circumstantial, indicate that he intended to make use of that information. It is irrelevant, in conspiracy law, that Trump Jr. found the information ultimately worthless, or as Trump said, that “it went now
”[W]hen we have companies like Microsoft and Google making brilliant free email clients like Outlook Mobile and Inbox, there really is no space for paid apps like Newton on the market.”
There are lots of paid apps which do quite well. What there Isn’t space for is a freaking standard email client which costs $100 a year.
Also... if this app really were “popular”, as the headline says - why would it be shutting down? There can’t be that much overhead involved.
#DeleteChrome
Sure, we all know that *BSD is a failure, but why? Why did *BSD die? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 20 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD effectively lost all of its market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personas?
The record is unambiguously clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Fact: *BSD is dead.
The title say "Popular Subscription Email Service" but I think it's really a client app subscription, an app that connects to other email services. So yea... might be tough to find a $100 market there. If it were a true service + client maybe they could offer something like privacy ... pretty sure you don't get that with the free email services.
There's a market for a separate email service if it can promise (and keep that promise) to never, ever, peek into your email, collect data on you, or otherwise violate your privacy, and furthermore provide end-to-end encryption and an overall high level of security of your account and their server(s) from unauthorized access.
I have about 8 email accounts I regularly use, and 7 devices I use (between desktops, phones, tablets - work and personal). I want them to stay separate. I DON'T want Google to get involved in any of them and screw them up or start offering me advertisements on the stuff I'm already spammed with.
With Newton, I could configure that ONCE and then each device I add automatically gets all of those configurations at once.
That convenience (plus the way that Newton could get past my office's firewall that normally blocks the SMTP and IMAP ports) was worth it for me.
Can somebody else PLEASE write an app that can magically do that for Samsung email for phone/tablets and Thunderbird for Mac and Windows so I don't have to go through that living hell of entering in all of those ports and tls settings and all of that crap?
"But remember, most lynch mobs aren't this nice." (H.Simpson)
-- Joe
I wonder why I had not received an email about them shutting down. I would think their customers should have been notified first.
I use newton only because it it had a skill that would let amazon echo read my emails. I will miss it.
In the end, it killed itself, 100 bucks was way too high when there are plenty of other email services out there. No way I would pay that much. Fortunately I was locked in at a much lower rate. Oh well, back to searching for another one that will pick up email from all my different accounts and read them to me through the echo too.
Silly, silly laissez faire businessman... The way to solve this — in an increasingly Fascist country — is to lobby the government. Tell them, the competitors aren't sufficiently guarding the customers' privacy and aren't sufficiently cooperative with law enforcement. Also, that their computers are damaging the environment and they aren't buying enough credits to offset that.
Ask them to pass some laws to a) regulate the industry; b) fine the noncompliant for the noncompliance; and c) subsidize the compliant with taxpayers' funds. Voila — Profit!!
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!!!!
no ads, no nonsense, 2fa since forever, pleasant design, good customer service, and most of all....
i am not the product.
they make the product, and i pay them for it. fascinating concept.
I was an early user, and liked it. I paid for it, and was happy. Then they went to a subscription model with a ridiculous price. I canceled, didn't even use the 3 months free, deleted all my data (sure, at least I used their tools to delete it) and wrote a scathing review.
This is a predictable end of the road for them. Great idea, decent implementation, but fucking horrible economics.
Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress
It was so immensely popular that I've never heard of it? I'll bet BOTH the users were really disappointed!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
There's PLENTY of room for a decent mail experience; Outlook is not great, and Gmail app is no good for people who aren't using Google for e-mail service.
But $100 a year which is more than even Outlook and Eudora Pro used to cost... doesn't fly for a software mail client unless you're providing a major meaningful service above and beyond, such as cloud-based archiving and searching that client software alone cannot provide.
Try something like $20 upfront, plus $5/year for maintenance.