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Tesla's Chief Vehicle Engineer Returns To Apple (theverge.com)
Doug Field, the former VP of Mac hardware who left Apple to become Tesla's chief vehicle engineer, has returned to Cupertino. Field is reportedly working on the company's secretive "Project Titan" self-driving car program. The Verge reports: Field ran Tesla's vehicle production and engineering, but CEO Elon Musk took over responsibility for production this year after the company failed to meet its initial first-quarter goal for the Model 3. Field then took a leave of absence in May, and subsequently left the company altogether in June. Project Titan has reportedly been scaled back considerably from its initial scope, with hundreds of people leaving the division as Apple is said to focus on seeking carmaker partners for its self-driving software. [Daring Fireball's John Gruber] speculates that Field's return to Titan suggests Apple could still have an interest in producing vehicles itself, while cautioning that employees do move between the two companies regularly.
Hemingway or Metallica versions.
So wouldnâ(TM)t put it past Apple to somehow fund Tesla going private initiative. Tesla would need a sugar daddy like Apple to go private.
At least at the top.
I've heard that among the rank and file, if you leave, Apple won't ever hire you back.
Hate to be sucking on air when Tesla stock NOSEDIVESSSZZZ! Sell while you can!
wonder if he went to tesla just to gather info then report back to apple.
How does someone who was "VP of Mac hardware" at Apple, become the head of "vehicle production and engineering" at Tesla? How in the fucking fuck is that even possible? Maybe I am extremely naive, but I would expect Tesla to hire someone with, you know, extensive automotive experience.
Apple Car®
Essentially the same as a Telsa, but costs twice as much and nothing can be repaired or replaced because everything is soldered in place.
"How does someone who was "VP of Mac hardware" at Apple, become the head of "vehicle production and engineering" at Tesla? How in the fucking fuck is that even possible? Maybe I am extremely naive, but I would expect Tesla to hire someone with, you know, extensive automotive experience"
He worked for 6 yrs at Ford as a Dev Eng right after after getting his Mech Eng degree from Purdue
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Musk will be experiencing sodomy first hand when he drops the soap in prison. Better come up with that money Elon.
Maybe now that Doug is back at Apple, he should work on "Secret Project Working Keyboard".
So, a junior car talent at best.
Small wonder Tesla cannot get a grip on its "production hell".
Shit, like, just works, dude. So awesome.
Small wonder Tesla cannot get a grip on its "production hell".
OTOH, they are not held back by ossified traditional thinking.
"tech", just a junk stock scammer.
Remember what his shills sang last week?
"The shorts will pay".
Remember what Trump said about that "wall"?
"Mexico's gonna pay".
Yep, it is that bad.
Yeah. Apparently they are not held back by the "traditional sales model", where you get what you pay for. The Tesla forum admins can't keep up deleting posts that say "Tesla took my money, didn't deliver the car". Moreover, they're apparently done with tradition in customer service. Because all these desperate comments from fans now end in "And after that, they don't return my calls".
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/warning-dont-pay-your-tesla-electronic-funds-transfer-delivery
Sad.
I was beginning to miss the five musk-sucking threads by BeauHD and Rei a week. CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT TESLA DISCUSSIONS.
Rei, Beau, STRENGTHEN MY FAITH!
Tell me all that stock I bought isn't going to be just worthless paper after Musk goes to jail.
Please!
Teh shorts are gonna BURN.
Burn, burn, burn.
Big mistake on Musks side to hire this guy and prettty arrogant of Fields to take the job. Typical Silicon Valley attitude of âoeweâ(TM)re smarter because we do computer stuffâ. Car production has been solved already by industrial and mechanical engineers.
So, the big news today is that Tesla lost one employee! One who worked as an executive for four years, and managed the people who really designed the car. For someone like that to hold a job for only four years isn't unusual.
This is met with a lot of totally unsubstantiated "Tesla will crash", "It's a really bad car", "Musk is going to jail". The shorts are still out there, or just trolls.
As far as I can tell, lots of people want their cars, their home solar products, their industrial battery products, etc.
I agree that Musk was probably just teasing the shorts. But Musk can say he's considering any thing he wants. And although it would be the largest stock buy-out ever, on paper, consider that the actual buying out is only for the people who decide to sell - while many would hang on - and he probably is able to line up the financing to handle a reasonable estimate of how many investors would sell out.
Lots of companies go private, public again, and private again. It's more common these days, with more private money in the market. And right now, being public is a distraction for Tesla. Too much energy spent fighting FUD.
Bruce Perens.
You don't gerit, man, this ain't no regular car. This is ELECTRIC car, it runs on electricitay. So, totally like a webserver.
420!
stop lying? While it may sound grand on /. it rarely works in real life.
It is not just one employee, Bruce. Quite a few people in senior engineering positions left Tesla in the past half year. These are people who actually lead the lemmings, including Grimes's boyfriend, towards the light. And it speaks volumes that the replacements we know of are from the lemmings group.
Also, there is no indication Tesla is "going private". No "investor" has stepped forward to confirm Musk's ravings, the board doesn't know who'll pay the bill, there are no banks and lawyers working on a deal, the Musk promise to have a buyout without shafting current holders is a business and legal impossibility. It was a stupid attempt to manipulate the stock price by a desperate failure of a manager.
How desperate a failure? Taking people's money and not delivering their cars level desperate:
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/warning-dont-pay-your-tesla-electronic-funds-transfer-delivery
Whatever isn't soldered will be glued. The car will not contain any standard fasteners, and you will be lucky if there are any screws at all. It will also feature typical Apple "It Just Works" (ie. most of the time, or sometimes, or maybe just not at all); it often won't be usable as a car, but it will look great by a parking meter or in your garage. Missing functionality (like charging, keys, or seat belts) will be provided with dongles at an extra cost.
After the generous one year warranty expires, you can have it crushed in an Apple Car recycling facility, for which they will give you a credit to help purchase the new, thinner, even less functional model.
Did he forget something?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
So, just like Tesla Motors today.
How come he does not have non competitive clause in his contract?
How come some programmer grunt have such clause in his contract and this high level specialist does not?
Double standard world...
There are two other Tesla forums (Model 3 Owners Club and Tesla Motors Club) unconnected to Tesla itself, and I've never seen a post like that on either. Furthermore, your single example is a post on the Tesla forums that is most notable for not being deleted in any way, shape or form, despite being written way back in May. FYI: "Fcos154" only ever showed up at the forum to write this one thread (and a couple posts in it), then disappeared.
Do you FUDsters ever stop?
Of course there "have been" people with damage in transit. Because that happens to every manufacturer; they all use the same transport companies. Half a percent or so of vehicles receiving damage (usually minor, such as minor scratches or paint chips) in transit is normal. With a dealership model, customers never see this; the paint is corrected before the car goes on the lot. With Tesla, it either means a frustrating delay from their scheduled delivery date/time, or presenting them with a less-than-perfect car which they have to bring back. That said, the reaction to the vehicle, and overall impressions of Tesla, have been extremely positive.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
That guy was pretty unlucky it seems, if his story is true. Usually they deliver the car with a load of defects, but you do get a car.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
and I've never seen a post like that on either.
Yes, Rei, we know that your eyes are covered with Musk cum, so you don't see what you don't want to see.
Do you FUDsters ever stop?
What is FUD, that Tesla is stalling deliveries/refunds and making excuses from the same playbook? This is fraud, pure and simple.
There are several threads like this, with a few #metoo-s in them. So it isn't as rosy a picture as the Tesla shills, who claim "one isolated accident", are painting.
And these are not only the Model 3-s, but the pricey variants, too. Tesla is shaping up as a complete fail - from manufacturing to customer service.
Muskey inferno.
How does someone go from being a sleazy multi-bankrupt real estate peddler to President of the United States?
Funny how this "complete fail" company keeps earning the highest customer satisfaction rating in the industry, huh?
Funny all of the people on the forums and YouTube who can't shut up about how much they love their car.
Funny the results of the ownership survey.
Guess it's a mass delusion.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
That's no "ownership survey", Rei, that's members of a circle jerk playing games.
Its completely logical that Apple would just buy a stake in Tesla. That is probably what Musk is tweeting about.
Whataboutism.
This is met with a lot of totally unsubstantiated "Tesla will crash", "It's a really bad car", "Musk is going to jail". The shorts are still out there, or just trolls.
Never ever seen anything like that. It's all in your head.
At 62, you may be suffering from early Alzheimer's. I would get screened.
10 of the 100 posts on this page are from "Rei".
Got a horse in this race, Bro?
/. sure has Elon's cock jammed down their collective throat while his fingers are busily pussy grabbing all they can. SAD.
The PEDO.
That's great you made out.
Musk insisted that he wouldn't need another cash infusion, but low and behold, he got that 2 billion from the Saudis. The "shorts" knew it and said so, but they were dismissed as "trolls" and "stock manipulators" - which is laughable considering the way the stock has been moving.
See, here's a house analogy of where Tesla was on June 30, 2018:
Imagine having $200 in the bank, a $1500 paycheck coming in at the end of the month and a $2,000 mortgage due now.
What do'ya do?
It doesn't matter that you have $100,000 in equity. You got to pay the bank.
Go to you favorite investing site and learn about the "current ratio" and other solvency tests. Because after you flamed me days ago, it's obvious you don't understand those things. And Musk is an unreliable source. (Where are those 500,000 cars he was gonna make this year?)
Over the last 40 years, I have seen this scenario play out time and time again. Every couple of decades there's a high profile entrepreneur that gets everybody's imagination going and hopes up and they never meet expectations. Steve Jobs stumbled pretty damn hard a couple of times.
Musk is rapidly losing credibility among knowledgeable investors. This last stunt raised a lot of eyebrows - including the SEC's.
And if he loses the confidence of the big players( Fidelity and the other funds that are in Tesla), you will see the stock price crash.
And as far as the buyout is concerned, no one has heard anything. If Musk was telling the truth, my best guess is the Chinese. It's gonna have to be a sovereign wealth fund of some sort to pony up the tens of billions needed.
Funny how this "complete fail" company keeps earning the highest customer satisfaction rating in the industry, huh?
You "keeps" refer/infer to Consumer Reports "subscriber/owner" survey, which is easily corruptible bullshit that any loser (KarenRei, Karen Pease, WindBourne, haruchai, Bruce Perens, Type44Q, KS Kyosuke, barsteward, apoc.famine, sfcat, aaarrrgggh, bgarcia, MachineShedFred, hyades1...), any Musk cocksucking barsteward(not the username already mentioned) can sign up and claim to be a owner.
But I am impressed that the Tesla Model 3 is garnering praise comparable to Kia automobiles of the 1990s (fast forward to 6:55).
By 2038, Tesla can surely achieve Kia quality level we see today in 2018.
This is assuming Elon doesn't lose any of his great design and manufacturing "talents" after all the ass rapes he'll be spoiled with in prison.
Coincidently, 2038 is also the estimated launch date of the $35k Model 3.
This is where Musk goes off the rails. Their secret sauce is in the batteries. Everything else has been done before. He has to stop trying to reinvent everything like car production and get these cars out. Global warming is real and we need this technology!
What batteries, his batteries are made by Panasonic.
"Tesla is stalling deliveries/refunds"
I do think they are but it's all about the Fed tax credit and cash hoarding until they can open up the delivery floodgates to the end of the year.
If they can average 4500 / wk over H2 2018, that's 117k Model 3s plus whatever number of S & X they can hawk, let's say 40k combined.
With an ASP of $55k for Model 3 and $90k for S/X, that $10 Billion in gross automotive revenue for 6 months compared to $11.8B total revenue for all 2017.
I know Tesla is claiming over 5k per week Model 3 and 2k S&X but I don't consider the latter number sustainable throughout the rest of the year and their Model 3 guidance for Q3 was 50-55k which is only 3.8-4.2k per week
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
No, it has nothing to do with tax credits and everything to do with inability to deliver a vehicle that will stand even cursory quality inspection, compounded by totally inadequate customer service system.
Which happens because of the peacemeal and reactive approach to problems by Tesla, something the car business overcame in the late 80s.
That is, this is happening because Musk and his team are incompetent and occupying themselves with PR and stock fraud, and not automobile production.
It's funny how you guys only criticize Consumer Reports' work when it says something you don't like. If anonymous surveys aren't good enough for you, then what exactly is?
Hahaha... your source is Randy Munro? Um, you might want to look at what Munro has been saying recently about the Model 3. It's a "symphony of engineering", he has to "eat crow", etc, etc. He now goes on and on about its brilliant design decisions, about how the guy who designed the suspension should be a Formula 1 prince, and on and on.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
If anonymous surveys aren't good enough for you, then what exactly is?
Sorry to hear that you got duped buying that 3 inch penis enlarger for Elon off amazon reviews (not that Elon is going to have any need for his tiny penis while being ass raped in prison).
Sandy Munro
Too bad Munro doubled down on the shit-tier mechanical design and assembly of Model3 ("(body) it's too heavy and it costs too much money" (1:03:25)), while the Chevy Bolt chassis "is a good example of a well done body".
The stuffs Munro thought well done were the electronics apparently made by Nvidia (31:05)(yeah, the good stuff is NOT made by Tesla).
about how the guy who designed the suspension should be a Formula 1 prince
Have a look at 44:55...stamped steel upper control arm with zip tie on vibration damper?
A fucking Honda Accord uses superior drop forged steel control arm.
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Hurry, line up for the new Icar. You know you're having a fit to own one already. We'll pack it with technology that's a least 3 years old and say it's the first. We'll price it way beyond were it should be and forget about working on it! We have the hood and the other parts welded shut so you can't get to them. You have to have one of our big fucking car disassemblers using our specially designed bolts to separate that sucker. Only we can do it.
Now who will be the first with their $100,000 deposit.
Now that you've learned a term, the next step is to understand it. It's was obviously an example of some other unexpected and unlikely career change. Whataboutism is an attempt to deflect criticism. Not applicable here.