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Tesla's Chief Vehicle Engineer Returns To Apple (theverge.com)
Doug Field, the former VP of Mac hardware who left Apple to become Tesla's chief vehicle engineer, has returned to Cupertino. Field is reportedly working on the company's secretive "Project Titan" self-driving car program. The Verge reports: Field ran Tesla's vehicle production and engineering, but CEO Elon Musk took over responsibility for production this year after the company failed to meet its initial first-quarter goal for the Model 3. Field then took a leave of absence in May, and subsequently left the company altogether in June. Project Titan has reportedly been scaled back considerably from its initial scope, with hundreds of people leaving the division as Apple is said to focus on seeking carmaker partners for its self-driving software. [Daring Fireball's John Gruber] speculates that Field's return to Titan suggests Apple could still have an interest in producing vehicles itself, while cautioning that employees do move between the two companies regularly.
So wouldnâ(TM)t put it past Apple to somehow fund Tesla going private initiative. Tesla would need a sugar daddy like Apple to go private.
wonder if he went to tesla just to gather info then report back to apple.
At least at the top.
I've heard that among the rank and file, if you leave, Apple won't ever hire you back.
Many companies are like that. I work far, far away from Silly Valley, and where I work it's pretty well known that if you leave, for any reason, you'll never be allowed to come back.
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Essentially the same as a Telsa, but costs twice as much and nothing can be repaired or replaced because everything is soldered in place.
That depends. If you're a worker-bee, then yeah. OTOH, if you're a super hot-shot type, wwweeellll, the rules can be bent, right? Duh!
"How does someone who was "VP of Mac hardware" at Apple, become the head of "vehicle production and engineering" at Tesla? How in the fucking fuck is that even possible? Maybe I am extremely naive, but I would expect Tesla to hire someone with, you know, extensive automotive experience"
He worked for 6 yrs at Ford as a Dev Eng right after after getting his Mech Eng degree from Purdue
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Maybe now that Doug is back at Apple, he should work on "Secret Project Working Keyboard".
Small wonder Tesla cannot get a grip on its "production hell".
OTOH, they are not held back by ossified traditional thinking.
it's pretty well known that if you leave, for any reason, you'll never be allowed to come back.
That is a foolish policy. My company keeps in touch with alumni, and we invite them to our annual picnic. We have rehired several "boomerangs", with good results every time. They already know our culture and procedures, so they can hit the ground running, without the typical 3-6 month learning curve. We also already know their capabilities, so we can put them into a team where they fit. They come back brimming with new ideas about how to fix our products and processes, and they have learned that the grass isn't greener elsewhere, so they rarely leave a second time.
What possible justification is there for a "no rehire" policy? Do they really think it will dissuade people from quitting?
Yep pretty much this, I currently work for one of those large multi national tech firms. The policy is if you quit you are pretty much walked out the door on the spot but they will welcome you back with open arms. I have many friends who have left and returned.
So, the big news today is that Tesla lost one employee! One who worked as an executive for four years, and managed the people who really designed the car. For someone like that to hold a job for only four years isn't unusual.
This is met with a lot of totally unsubstantiated "Tesla will crash", "It's a really bad car", "Musk is going to jail". The shorts are still out there, or just trolls.
As far as I can tell, lots of people want their cars, their home solar products, their industrial battery products, etc.
I agree that Musk was probably just teasing the shorts. But Musk can say he's considering any thing he wants. And although it would be the largest stock buy-out ever, on paper, consider that the actual buying out is only for the people who decide to sell - while many would hang on - and he probably is able to line up the financing to handle a reasonable estimate of how many investors would sell out.
Lots of companies go private, public again, and private again. It's more common these days, with more private money in the market. And right now, being public is a distraction for Tesla. Too much energy spent fighting FUD.
Bruce Perens.
You don't gerit, man, this ain't no regular car. This is ELECTRIC car, it runs on electricitay. So, totally like a webserver.
420!
Did he forget something?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
There are two other Tesla forums (Model 3 Owners Club and Tesla Motors Club) unconnected to Tesla itself, and I've never seen a post like that on either. Furthermore, your single example is a post on the Tesla forums that is most notable for not being deleted in any way, shape or form, despite being written way back in May. FYI: "Fcos154" only ever showed up at the forum to write this one thread (and a couple posts in it), then disappeared.
Do you FUDsters ever stop?
Of course there "have been" people with damage in transit. Because that happens to every manufacturer; they all use the same transport companies. Half a percent or so of vehicles receiving damage (usually minor, such as minor scratches or paint chips) in transit is normal. With a dealership model, customers never see this; the paint is corrected before the car goes on the lot. With Tesla, it either means a frustrating delay from their scheduled delivery date/time, or presenting them with a less-than-perfect car which they have to bring back. That said, the reaction to the vehicle, and overall impressions of Tesla, have been extremely positive.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
That guy was pretty unlucky it seems, if his story is true. Usually they deliver the car with a load of defects, but you do get a car.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
<feminist rant>
Why is it that "oral sex on a man" is a standard throw-around insult? When was the last time that you saw a man who was supportive of a woman being accused of "eating her out"? Rarely, if ever. Yet the opposite situation is a generic throwaway insult here. Why is it that male sexuality isn't seen as insulting at all, but female sexuality is supposed to be some sort of mark of shame?
If we have a situation where someone says something powerful about a powerful woman - say, from past US elections, Hillary Clinton - is the allegation that they want to have oral sex with her? No, just the opposite. Powerful women are presented as cold and sexless, and their supporters, henpecked. It's only when you have powerful men that they're painted as virile and their supporters - overwhelmingly with their female supporters - sleeping with them. Again: male sexuality is seen as normal and natural (the shame is to not be sexual), while female sexuality is presented as shameful, as an insult. Men aren't presumed to be exchanging sex for favour from powerful individuals, while women are automatically presumed to be doing so in relation to powerful men.
The funny thing is, you probably think you're being offensive, when all you do is flag yourself as a troglodyte.
</feminist rant>
Apart from that: sorry you lost your money betting against / shorting TSLA ($355,49). Better luck next time. ;)
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you from all the way up here atop this pile of money.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
I love how I'm apparently everyone, everywhere. It's neat being omnipresent. ;)
BTW, did you mix up your short theses? The short thesis that's in vogue today is "there's no demand", not "Tesla can't produce". ;) So you should be assuming I got my VIN and that there's nobody left on the list. Despite them not having opened up anywhere outside the US, and with no signs of them doing so any time soon.
Or I guess you could buck the trend and keep insisting on the "Tesla can't produce" short-selling hypothesis. I guess Bloomberg is in on the scam.
Maybe you could push your own hypotheses? Beat the curve and go straight to the competition hypothesis - "They can produce and there is demand, but soon they'll be drown in a wave of competition!" That one comes into vogue every few years and is usually quite stylish. Or you could go all Alex Jones and become a margin-denier.
There's so many ways for a short to dress!
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
"Help, SEC, save me from my losses!" is always the final Hail Mary of a short seller. Every time.
And it's almost always a fumble.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
To repeat: "Help, SEC, save me from my losses!"
Perhaps you're looking at a different TSLA than me. Because in the reality I exist in, TSLA was under $300 just a couple weeks ago.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
Lol, shorts now thinking Tesla should be worth more money? Now I've seen everything.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
Come to the wired.
God is here.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
How does someone go from being a sleazy multi-bankrupt real estate peddler to President of the United States?
Shorts refusing to believe Musk and shorting the stock on positive announcements isn't "news".
Them repeatedly losing their shirts doing so also isn't news.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
Funny how this "complete fail" company keeps earning the highest customer satisfaction rating in the industry, huh?
Funny all of the people on the forums and YouTube who can't shut up about how much they love their car.
Funny the results of the ownership survey.
Guess it's a mass delusion.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
Whataboutism.
No matter what your comment, Rei will roll in it. Like a stray dog who encounters a dead festering muskrat rolls in it.
'Rei' comments have started to become a little shrill and shrieky. Just a little.
Take note of this, everybody.
Keep that blue dress wrapped up and in the back of your closet. It protects the dna 'just in case' you ever start calling him 'the big creep.'
Thank you, HR shill.
Tesla is basically propped up entirely by blind fanboyism. No other car company has 'fans' who will pay money for a car and then accept it covered in dirt, scratches, panel gaps and fucked-up paint.
"Tesla is stalling deliveries/refunds"
I do think they are but it's all about the Fed tax credit and cash hoarding until they can open up the delivery floodgates to the end of the year.
If they can average 4500 / wk over H2 2018, that's 117k Model 3s plus whatever number of S & X they can hawk, let's say 40k combined.
With an ASP of $55k for Model 3 and $90k for S/X, that $10 Billion in gross automotive revenue for 6 months compared to $11.8B total revenue for all 2017.
I know Tesla is claiming over 5k per week Model 3 and 2k S&X but I don't consider the latter number sustainable throughout the rest of the year and their Model 3 guidance for Q3 was 50-55k which is only 3.8-4.2k per week
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
It's funny how you guys only criticize Consumer Reports' work when it says something you don't like. If anonymous surveys aren't good enough for you, then what exactly is?
Hahaha... your source is Randy Munro? Um, you might want to look at what Munro has been saying recently about the Model 3. It's a "symphony of engineering", he has to "eat crow", etc, etc. He now goes on and on about its brilliant design decisions, about how the guy who designed the suspension should be a Formula 1 prince, and on and on.
Assuming ethanol comes from murdered children and the hydrogen from magic, hydrogen saves 132% more lives than ethanol.
Hurry, line up for the new Icar. You know you're having a fit to own one already. We'll pack it with technology that's a least 3 years old and say it's the first. We'll price it way beyond were it should be and forget about working on it! We have the hood and the other parts welded shut so you can't get to them. You have to have one of our big fucking car disassemblers using our specially designed bolts to separate that sucker. Only we can do it.
Now who will be the first with their $100,000 deposit.