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Watch Fish Swim By Petabytes of Data At Microsoft's Underwater Data Center (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report fro Motherboard: In June, Microsoft announced that it had placed a self-sufficient, waterproof data center off the coast of the Orkney Islands in Scotland. The data center, loaded with 864 servers capable of handling 27.6 petabytes of data, represented the culmination of nearly four years of research and development on the project, codenamed Natick. The underwater data center is the first of its kind. It's a proof of concept that aims to cut down on one of the biggest costs of running a data center on land -- cooling -- and can be rapidly deployed anywhere in the world. Due to the experimental nature of the project, however, Microsoft needed to keep a close eye on its pilot project. In order to monitor the environmental conditions around the tank, it placed two cameras nearby that livestream from the bottom of the ocean 24/7.

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  1. Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Funny

    Parsing that headline took time. Time flies like an arrow.

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    1. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The web cams are pretty cool. I didn't realize there were so many fish in the ocean in that part of the world. I kind of considered the North sea and areas around it to be rather dead and devoid of life. Now I see I was wrong.

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    2. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      If you paid attention enough, there is seemingly a lot of crap falling from above..

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    3. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      And you replied. What does that say? Now you have to sit there wondering if you were trolled, or if you just wasted your time insulting someone.

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    4. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, you whined about the units and complained about the time it took for you to understand what was said. That's not on anyone else really, try as you might.

    5. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they trained fish to watch the petabytes?

    6. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      I didn't realize there were so many fish in the ocean in that part of the world.

      There isn't. This camera is not just randomly placed in the ocean. It is attached to a large object (the data container) that acts as an artificial reef, attracting fish that school around and below it.

    7. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      A bit off topic, but I was somewhat surprised to learn that cold northern waters actually contain a lot more nutrients for the undersea ecosystem than warmer oceans further south (I think I learned this from Blue Planet?). We think of those ocean regions as life-rich because of the niche areas of coral reefs or shallows, but in the open ocean, it's much less so.

      Back on topic, I notice that these are designed for deployment for up to five years without maintenance. I'll be interested to hear if they can hit that target, or perhaps take it even further. Since these are reasonably small modules (by data center standards), it seems like it might be feasible to deploy things like this en masse, and if a single module has issues, it's not going to be an insurmountable problem. Obviously, they'd have to figure out if it makes any economic sense to do this, but it's pretty neat as an experiment.

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    8. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Considering all the metal parts visible in the cam, they're definitely not long-term deployable. They're going to need new anodes even if they don't have any faults.

      Cloud hosting only. But, not bad concept for that use.

    9. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      They understandably weren’t concerned about aesthetics when they positioned that camera... yes there are fish in the shot, but it’s unlikely anyone will want to watch it for more than a few seconds.

      If you want something more aesthetically pleasing (and relaxing), I recommend the Monterrey Bay Jellyfish Cam: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...

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    10. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Obviously, they'd have to figure out if it makes any economic sense to do this, but it's pretty neat as an experiment.

      Especially if they can run one of these hot enough to boil water and create a column of steam in the air in a spot strategically chosen to water a dry area of adjacent land.

    11. Re: Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in Scotland. It'll be used to brew tea if it's boiling.

    12. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree w OP.

      Fun With Trolls(tm)!

    13. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      But fruit flies like a banana.

    14. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll believe it when I see a GlassFish swim by the camera.

    15. Re: Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and fruit flies like a banana.

    16. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by mikael · · Score: 1

      Sea water maintains a constant temperature compared to land. Coastal areas have a more moderate climate than those inland.

      The modules seem to be designed from oil industry technology - designed to survive in a salt environment like the North Sea. That will corrode just about any metal. The winter storms with 30m ocean waves won't help either.

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    17. Re: Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      Don't feed the trolls.

    18. Re:Wear birds at Trillions of micrometers on land by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      I was able to watch it for almost 30 seconds. You youngsters have no attention span nowadays!

      And thx for the link. Definitely an upgrade. You deserve a gratuity, so here...

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  2. And We still don't havea true waterproof smartfone by kamathln · · Score: 1

    The last I checked most phones would fail and lose water-proofing if they start ringing underwater. Or their touch sensor won't work, or some sort of handicap like that.

  3. Brings new meaning to... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    ... warming of the oceans....

    1. Re:Brings new meaning to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... fish and chips.

    2. Re:Brings new meaning to... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      compared to less air deterioration, it's a win.

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    3. Re:Brings new meaning to... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

      Maybe, maybe not. I wonder about the effects upon a warmer ocean and the weather. Oversimplification, I'm sure, but mother nature can be nasty when provoked.

    4. Re:Brings new meaning to... by Lopton · · Score: 2

      If you look at this from purely an energy perspective the less energy used, the less energy there is to be added to the equation. If they put this same data center on land, they would need energy to run a cooling system, likely to include air conditioning. Since some of that energy is lost as heat all the way from production to real work, this system of placing it underwater will be devoid of those losses. In the end with less energy use, less heat is produced. So I think that is win.

  4. They could cool down even more by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    like use less CPU, by installing Linux on all the servers (they can keep the ugly colored logo though, nobody's gonna check what's inside the box down there)

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    1. Re:They could cool down even more by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a datacenter probably for Azure, so they might actually be running Linux on a lot of those boxes (if not all of them, and running the Windows instances in VMs).

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    2. Re:They could cool down even more by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      There's no one to reboot the servers (remote management has its limits), thus it'd be suicidal to run Windows there.

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    3. Re:They could cool down even more by Lopton · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure they could add a remote power cut off relay to this to power cycle them...

    4. Re: They could cool down even more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robot arm, robot finger, button. Solved.

      Replacing an SSD or RAM would be trickier.

      Putting out a fire would be trivial. Mind you, you could probably open a window on land in Orkney and between wind and rain it would still put the fire out. How they get Up Hellya to work is beyond me.

    5. Re:They could cool down even more by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      I am pretty sure they could add a remote power cut off relay to this to power cycle them...

      ... just to see Windows trying to install updates over and over. Or a STOP 0x8000003 immediately.

      Obviously, iDrac will then fail with an expired Java certificate server-side...

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    6. Re: They could cool down even more by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Putting out a fire would be trivial.

      I didn't RTFA, but if they already have to seal this thing up to put it underwater, I would think that it would be fairly trivial to do so with no oxygen in it. Why not make the atmosphere inside consist of nitrogen and/or CO2? No fires w/o oxygen.

    7. Re: They could cool down even more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did think of that! No fires for those datacenters.

      From the source:

      Internal Operating Environment
      1 atmosphere pressure, dry nitrogen.

    8. Re:They could cool down even more by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That is what Intel Management Engine is for. It runs separately to the main CPU and OS, so in theory no matter how badly they have crashed it can reboot them and provide VNC style remote screen/keyboard. You can access the BIOS with it etc.

      Of course it also makes the machine ridiculously insecure...

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    9. Re:They could cool down even more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a problem from 10+ years ago.

      Modern data centers can power cycle a server from the electric socket if it's not responsive ... If you have dedicated hosting they might give you that capability also in the UI or their API.

  5. Halted, Hanged, Slowness, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    does it have the Control-Alt-Supr or reboot button?

    1. Re:Halted, Hanged, Slowness, ... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      No, but it has screen of death which color is ... like the sea!

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  6. Practical question by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    How fast can they change a SSD or a memory module down there?

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    1. Re:Practical question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They don't, you just install enough spare capacity that you can afford 10 years worth of failures.

    2. Re:Practical question by sims+2 · · Score: 2

      They don't.
      Everything sits as it was shipped and the reduced costs make up the difference.

      It's even filled with nitrogen to eliminate the possibility of fires.

      I'm interested to know what they are running on it. Like are they using it for commercial services? Or are they really just running through endless test cycles on 27PB of storage?

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    3. Re:Practical question by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      How fast can they change a SSD or a memory module down there?

      If any part fails, the TOS states that you need to install a new data center.

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    4. Re:Practical question by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      I knew I wasn't the only guy thinking of this! Biggest problem I see is something severs the cable or an container integrity breach. Unlike air, everything in that container is lost if water gets in.

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    5. Re:Practical question by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      It's no small sum to loose either, the 27PB alone has to be about 500k as a low estimate.

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    6. Re:Practical question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd design such a thing partitioned into self-sufficient modules with offline redundancy built-in, and pods would be redundant with each other. Disk fails? Physically remove power and bring up a previously offline spare. Memory fails? That sucks, if it's a small failure automatically BADBLOCK the area and continue. If enough memory or disk failures happen you'll just have to bring down the module. Oh well. That's why the modern paradigm is to have everything redundant. Your data is already somewhere else as a rule, and after a few pointer in networking your compute is somewhere else too. MTBF is built into a deployment strategy so you always have slightly more storage and compute than you need down there. When a pod is old enough or loses enough modules you haul it up and scrap it. It was never important by itself.

  7. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Who's using a phone under water?

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  8. It's been said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ``microsoft follows standards like schools of fish follow migrating caribou''

    Now you can see microsoft following standards in real live action.

    1. Re:It's been said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look everybody! This guy implies that MS's hold over the market was due to not enough competing browsers! Fun reading for a Sunday afternoon!

    2. Re:It's been said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you've been letting your wits get addled by the W3C incompetency.

      There are plenty of standards that do not impose "mediocrity". Take, say, metric sizes for nuts and bolts, or the various standard series of resitor values, for example.

  9. gross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, wish it didn't have to be so ugly. a glass tube with server lights a-blinkin would have been much cooler.

  10. i like to feed fish fresh poo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's so delightful to see them gobble it up

  11. It's M$ - who cares what the story is about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so long as it makes the FP!

    I'll never use their creations, any of them, again. ever. done. out.

  12. Everythings fun and games by bobstreo · · Score: 2

    until an ocean floor trawler rips up rheir power or fiber.

    Or sea life (like underwater squirrels) try eating the cables. /s

    1. Re:Everythings fun and games by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      If this is for Production use then it certainly has redundant power and fiber connections which take different routes to the shore.

  13. I'd rather watch flamingos fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to be honest

  14. Tautological pleonasm by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Isn't "Orkney Islands" like saying "the La Brea tar pits" or "Rio Grande river", given that "ey" means island?
    I've always heard them referred to as just the Orkneys.

    1. Re:Tautological pleonasm by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      So the name of the Islands is actually Orkn?

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    2. Re: Tautological pleonasm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the name is Orkney.
      Which means "Isle of piglets" or "Island of seals" depending on what way you want to read it.
      Orc/Ork being a young pig.
      Then the Norwegians showed up and stuck their ending for islands on it, but they heard ork as orkn, so it became Orkneyjar, which English shortened to Orkney.

    3. Re:Tautological pleonasm by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your attempted pedanticism is false. So lame.

      Orkn means seal in Old Norse. Neyjar means islands. So the name Orkney is a corruption of the words "Seal Islands." But it does not literally mean Orkn Islands, as the name isn't Orkneyjar but merely Orkney.

      OTOH, the Old Gaelic name was Insi Orc, Island of the Orcs. But Orc in Old Gaelic means pig, as in a wild boar.

      It appears actually that the ancient Pictish inhabitants had a Boar as the symbol of their ruling noble family, and the later Norse inhabitants simply took it to mean their own similar-sounding name, Seal, based on the place-names taken out of context. And the later Pictish (eastern Scottish highlander) residents dropped part of the Old Norse word for islands, but didn't go back to Orc from Orkn.

      The phrasing "the Orkneys" is similar to that from Pliny, who called them the Orchades. But they were likely still actually called Insi Orc at that time.

      Also, when a corrupted word has a suffix particle from a different language than the root, they generally combine to form a new root word, and would need a new suffix. This is not any contradiction, just a reality of the evolution of words.

    4. Re: Tautological pleonasm by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That whole region is crammed with Old Norse geographical names like ey, ness, foss, fell, water (from vatn, lake) and byre.

    5. Re:Tautological pleonasm by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Your attempted pedanticism is false. So lame.

      Orkn means seal in Old Norse. Neyjar means islands. So the name Orkney is a corruption of the words "Seal Islands." But it does not literally mean Orkn Islands, as the name isn't Orkneyjar but merely Orkney.

      Your attempted at being even more pedantic isn't an improvement.
      Ey is singular, eyjar is plural. Orkneys is an English plural to a Norse word for island on a gaelic stem. Much like the individual islands with names like Westray, Sanday and Ronaldsay.
      The ey still very much part of the word, whether in singular Orkney or plural Orkneys, it means "island".

    6. Re:Tautological pleonasm by gtall · · Score: 1

      Boars are nothing. Albania has a two-headed chicken as a symbol. It worked wonders on scaring the foreigners off as no one wanted to be fighting two-headed chickens.

    7. Re:Tautological pleonasm by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You were doing good, but you didn't make it far enough into my analysis to see that I addressed that.

    8. Re:Tautological pleonasm by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The emblem of the Kastrioti family, as seen on the flag of Albania, is an eagle. The Scottish side of my family has a Rooster as their crest, with a single head, and I dare say that they were more feared on the battlefield. One were renowned military leaders, hired to help lead armies all across Europe during times of war; the other were not.

      Looking at history, nobody was ever scared of attacking Albania. That never happened. The Greeks generally didn't even mention passing through it; the Huns had to fight their way through Thrace, and then they just appear in Greece or Italy.

      What always scared off invading armies was the lack of food to pillage, due to the low population density, along with the lack of accrued wealth normal in a region surrounded on all sides by more powerful nations. They were too close to bigger fish to amass wealth unnoticed, but they also lacked the style of proximity that would give them any military advantage. And yet, perhaps too warlike in temperament to even make good vassals. As intended, to be sure, I mean no insult; you don't want your powerful neighbors to see as a good vassal, by any means! But it also isn't any sort of victory.

  15. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm drowning, you insensitive clod!

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  16. It is now safe to turn off your computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and tune into Linux

  17. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by kamathln · · Score: 2

    People who use boats often for work or pleasure often find they have dropped their phone in water. They drop it into shallows, which is usually the case as they drop phones accidentally when climbing / alighting the boats. In such scenarios, it is easy to retrieve the phone, but it would just be a brick by the time it is retrieved. The possibility of communication is vital in such circumstances where they might be traveling over water, possibly alone.What is the point of spending thousands of dollars on communication technology if the communication device is lost when it is needed the most? Precious, unreproducible data such as personal photos of events could be lost too. All this despite years of evolution of the technology?

  18. Anywhere? by VonSkippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    " and can be rapidly deployed anywhere in the world."

    Like to the Sahara?

    1. Re:Anywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have to read the EULA to see the definition of "deploy" used here is all about placement rather than function. It can be placed in the sahara, rapidly.

    2. Re:Anywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It can be placed in the sahara, rapidly."

      ICBM launched servers, here we come!

  19. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All this can be avoided.

    • Waterproof phone case, they exist.
    • Look into a belt tether for the phone, perhaps a good case will include a provision.
    • Marine radio should already be on the boat.
    • Keep backups.
  20. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Waterproof cases are a thing. If you spend a lot of time in/around boats on the water, perhaps you should consider buying one?

  21. Nature will surely find a way by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

    To breach this thing. The ocean doesn't like to be warmed.

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  22. New fishing spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That heat will create a micro eco system. It'll attract smaller organisms, which will attract larger, yada yada.

    I wonder if Microsoft did an environmental impact study to what happens when they turn it off. There'll be a kill off?

    2nd, I'd expect to see it being a fishing spot?

  23. Fucking Genius by nagora · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everyone's worried about the warming of the oceans, so Microsoft puts a giant heater in one!

    Yeah, yeah - I know. But there was a day when someone said "a bit of plastic dumped in the ocean's not going to matter, is it?". It's called learning from your mistakes; maybe we should try it some time.

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    1. Re:Fucking Genius by kaoshin · · Score: 1

      They already had a team study this and determined that it heats up the water close to it by no more than a few thousandths of a degree Celsius warmer than a few feet further away from it. The environmental impact of your using an electronic device to post on Slashdot is probably of equal concern, but its not too late to learn from mistakes!

    2. Re:Fucking Genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the alternative is to open yet another data center somewhere, which then needs to be air-cooled, which uses far more power, which is still generated mostly from fossil fuels, which pumps shit straight into the atmosphere and a load of warm water into the sea anyway.

      Funnily enough, people far better informed than you have already considered the possible effects on environment and wildlife, and decided to proceed with this pilot study to validate their hypothesis that there wouldn't be much of an impact. If this proves feasible then it could be a huge win for the environment; if not then we have learned valuable stuff about how our technology interacts with hostile environments and marine ecosystems.

      If we ignored reason and science and instead listened to every troglodyte who had a vague intuition about how every new idea might be somehow dangerous we'd never have got further than hitting things with rocks.

    3. Re:Fucking Genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Directly heating the oceans is negligible compared to the damage caused by producing CO2 for phase change cooling in a traditional data center.

    4. Re:Fucking Genius by nagora · · Score: 1

      "Funnily enough, people far better informed than you"

      Microsoft.

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  24. Microft patents largest diving brick breaks GBWR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    after the power and fiber lines are cut by a trawler or someone disconnects Natick from the Orkney power grid in Scotland...

    Microsoft files two things that same day...

    1. Microsoft breaks the Guinness Book of World Records creating the largest diving brick..

    2. Microsoft files with the USPTO their designs for the Microsoft Diving Brick 1.0

    we need more ocean diving bricks this size to help rebuild the coral reefs...

    JD gives you another one by mtn287

  25. Video steaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's some of the crappiest UW video I've ever seen.

    SUN did the datacenter-in-a-box thing years and years ago, so it's not surprising MS could do an underwater version but, jaysus, you could practically fake that video in an aquarium. In any case, what's the $ equation? Shrinking power envelopes have done more to conserve energy than anything else, I don't see any real value here unless it's being sold to the IRS to safeguard my tax liabilities post-WW3. Wouldn't want to miss a quarterly...

    MS nothingburger, but congrats to the Engineers.

  26. Just one torpedo will do the job by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Flood it with seawater, and everything electronic inside is toast.

    1. Re:Just one torpedo will do the job by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Flood it with seawater, and everything electronic inside is toast.

      Similarly, most land-based server installations are susceptible to a simple H-bomb attack.

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    2. Re:Just one torpedo will do the job by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      But conventional explosives are much easier to come by and every submarine of every navy on the planet that has them has torpedoes that will do the job. That's the point.

  27. derp by smithcl8 · · Score: 1

    100% uptime, until the first disk fails.

  28. Underwater cameras by PPH · · Score: 1

    In Scotland. Yeah, right.

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  29. nothing could ... by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    Nothing could go wrong with this scenario, nothing, I tell you!

    100% uptime until the cows come home!

    wait...cows?

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  30. I tried to look by Thelaststraw · · Score: 1

    But all I saw were three pulsing dots while I waited for it to load. I got sick of waiting after 15 min and gave up. Which company was this for again? Oh, yeah, the ever dependable Microsoft. You can depend on it to break.

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    1. Re:I tried to look by tsa · · Score: 1

      For me it worked. At least MS can do full screen video on the iPad, unlike Google with their terribly broken YouTube website.

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  31. Somebody Set Us Up The Datacenter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deep in the hearts of many open-source advocates is the desire, even if only for a moment, to see Microsoft go underwater.

    Hell, many open-source advocates probably applauded, even if silently, as the USDOJ tried - and failed - to send Microsoft to the bottom of the corporate abyss, in pieces, to sleep with the fishes.

    That said, the fact that Microsoft is running data centers underwater, surrounded by fish, is just too f-cking ridiculous for words.

    I mean...seriously? This isn't what I meant when I said I wanted Microsoft to go underwater...or to go sleep with the fishes.

  32. Disposal will be a piece of cake by meniah · · Score: 1

    When it's obsolete, they can just unplug it and walk away. Who's going to notice & do anything about it?

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  33. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by kamathln · · Score: 1

    Good point. But somehow they have not caught on.. Yet .. think about it .. the computing and the technologies packed into mobile communications have been growing at a phenomenal rate. But proper waterproofing is still a "high premium" and still questionable if it truly works! We definitely have been prioritizing the wrong stuff. That is the point I want to stress.

  34. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by kamathln · · Score: 1

    Using cases would get annoying. Really.

  35. Re:And We still don't havea true waterproof smartf by kamathln · · Score: 1

    Also, if they can make a datacenter waterproof, why not a humble mobile phone?