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Bethesda Blocks Resale of a Secondhand Game (polygon.com)

theshowmecanuck writes: Bethesda just pulled a cease and desist on an Amazon Marketplace sale of one of their games. This, despite the fact that the resale of used games is legal in the USA. Bethesda is saying that because it isn't being offered with a warranty, it is not protected through the First Sale Doctrine. UPDATE: The game in question was sealed and unopened, technically not "used," but being sold secondhand. In a letter sent to the seller by Bethesda's legal firm, they made the argument that the sale was not "by an authorized reseller," and was therefore "unlawful." Bethesda also took issue with the seller's use of the word "new" in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted "false advertising."

Bethesda offered the following statement: "Bethesda does not and will not block the sale of pre-owned games. The issue in this case is that the seller offered a pre-owned game as 'new' on the Amazon Marketplace. We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as 'new' because we can't verify that the game hasn't been opened and repackaged. This is how we help protect buyers from fraud and ensure our customers always receive authentic new product, with all enclosed materials and warranty intact. In this case, if the game had been listed as 'Pre-Owned,' this would not have been an issue."

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  1. Yet another reason to avoid Bethesda by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's laughable that they are trying to somehow dry up the game aftermarket for their titles and then shucking and jiving around what the meaning of "is" is.

    Wake me up when they go tits up.

  2. What A Crock Of Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Amazon has tools to allow companies like Bethesda to report bad sellers. Bethesda could have simply used those tools and had the listing taken down. Instead they get the lawyers involved as a scar tactic to further scare other potential sellers away ensuring that more new copies are being sold, not already bought copies.

    Bethesda's claims have no merit. Afraid of the game being not new? Amazon has protections in place for that. If the seller takes your money and runs? Amazon has protections in place for that. The game just doesn't work? Amazon has protections in place for that.

    Honestly, fuck Bethesda. They rarely make good games. What they make are large games that are easy enough to mod for others to make their games fun.

  3. Re:Easy mistake to make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah, this is over-enthusiastic Bethesda lawyers trying to scare someone.

    If it ever gets to a court, it'll be laughed out.

  4. "Sealed and unopened" and yet "unwrapped" by jaa101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The game in question was sealed and unopened, technically not "used," [...] Bethesda also took issue with the seller's use of the word "new" in selling the unwrapped game

    How can it be both "sealed and unopened" and yet also "unwrapped"? Is there an argument about it or is this some distinction that's lost on non-gamers?

  5. Re:It makes sense, it's like scalping by omnichad · · Score: 5, Informative

    The first sale doctrine explicitly makes this legal in the US. And furthermore, in Bethesda's statement:

    We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as 'new' because we can't verify that the game hasn't been opened and repackaged

    They can't unilaterally not allow something. The seller doesn't have a reseller agreement that they would be breaking. They have no relationship to the company whatsoever, so the company has absolutely zero standing to sue.