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Student Arrested For Posting Zombie-Killing AR Game Clip Filmed at His High School (yahoo.com)

18-year-old high school student Sean Small was arrested in Indiana on Tuesday and charged with a misdemeanor for posting a videogame clip to social media. An anonymous reader quotes Yahoo Lifestyle: The clip in question is Sean playing The Walking Dead: Our World, which is an augmented reality game that animates characters into a real-world setting. In this case, players kill zombies. Along with Sean's video he wrote, "Finally something better than Pokemon Go," which is also an augmented reality game....

Sean, who is a member of the Indiana National Guard, pleaded not guilty to an intimidation charge. He was released on $1,000, and his school expulsion hearing is set for next week. The video featured other students walking through the halls as Sean allegedly attempted to kill the zombies the game placed among them.

Realistic footage of shootings in the high school's hallways apparently alarmed the off-duty sheriff's deputy hired to work at the high school -- who then filed the misdemeanor intimidation charge with the county prosecutor.

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  1. thought crimes by stikves · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There seems to be a grey area between fiction, and really harmful content. However the line between free speech, and being uncomfortable about something is very hard to draw.

    I'm not sure how to objectively draw a boundary. However if the game is setup to allow real life footage to be amended with zombie shooting, this would have happened sooner or later.

    How this finally plays out is actually important for the future boundaries of free speech.

    1. Re:thought crimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't see a difficulty in differentiating fiction from reality. Zombies aren't real. Shooting them, therefore, cannot be real.
      A simple video of someone's game should not garner any response, other than if they are breaking any rules of the place where they filmed it.
      I can understand being confused with an AR game, but nothing in this case seems to point at intimidation, harassment or threat. The complaint is, I'm sure, in good faith, but as soon as the kid explains what it was nothing further should have happened.
      And I don't think this is about free speech, either. I see nothing about the kid's video hinting at threats, insults, etc. There is no speech of his that needs special exemption because it would otherwise be uncivil.
      This is an overreaction to nothing by multiple adults that should know better. If not about the game and games like it, at least about the kid's intent and reactions to the complaint.
      Reactions like these cannot become the norm.

    2. Re: thought crimes by thesupraman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In which case why are they not charging him with that?

    3. Re:thought crimes by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There seems to be a grey area between fiction, and really harmful content.

      Oh please, it's Pokemon Go with zombies. You walk around with your cell phone and click to kill zombies instead of capturing pokemons. Next thing you know Pokemon Go should be banned for having "battles" in public locations. OMG the carnage...

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    4. Re:thought crimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The fact that this was considered by *anyone* to be a crime is just fucking insane. Those people are the ones who need to be locked away as they obviously can't separate real life from fiction and are potentially dangerous in this state of hallucinatory delusion.

    5. Re:thought crimes by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen! I would add that "zero tolerance" policies need to go, too. Zero tolerance means zero intelligence. Schools have such policies because it relieves them from having to think. Aren't all the grown-ups at a school supposed to be capable of critical thinking? Aren't they all supposed to be intelligent?

      The real crime in this case is that charges were brought against an innocent person in the name of "safety". Bullshit!

    6. Re: thought crimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      >He filmed people without their consent and posted it online.

      Nope.

      Scott County Sheriffâ(TM)s Deputy Joe Baker and principal Ric Mann determined after watching the video that it âoedepicted real Scottsburg High School students walking through the hallway along with fictional zombie characters,â according to WDRB-TV.

      âoeSuch students could not be identified due to the appâ(TM)s photographic settings,â the station reported, citing a probable cause affidavit.

      So apparently the app has a face blurring or obscuring algorithm that protects the identity of real people that happen to appear in game background.

  2. Snitches should get stitches. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And effective gun control is a must to remove the fear of shootings.

    That's all.

    1. Re:Snitches should get stitches. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Gun control is completely realistic in the most general sort of sense. I've lived in 6 or 7 countries, and all of them have strict gun regulation. In all of them owning guns is allowed, but it comes with reasonable preconditions. One has to pass a base sanity check, and one cannot easily own an arsenal.

      Guess what, there are no recorded mass shootings in any of these countries. The police aren't armed to the teeth. They are not trigger-happy, and you don't have to live in fear that you'll be shot by them no matter what ethnicity is.

      And, guess what, schoolchildren in those countries don't get arrested for playing a game. Even it is a FPS AR one.

  3. Re:Some things you can't do in public, in school. by VanGarrett · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the summary, it doesn't sound to me, as though he thought he was pushing any boundaries. He was just playing a game, and thought he'd share it on social media. It wasn't a depiction of shooting students or civilians, only literal monsters. This genuinely sounds like an overreaction to me.

  4. No gun (real or fake) used to play this game. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To play this game you move around with your smartphone and click buttons in the smartphone's screen to destroy pixels which make up zombie images.
    Nobody in the school could have been intimidated by a student walking around waving his phone and clicking on it.

    This is not even a thought crime. A thought crime would be "I so would like to kill this teacher who makes such difficult exams". Killing zombies in real life (yes, I realize how absurd that was) is no crime, thus phantasies about it are not thought crimes.

  5. Re:An arrest is not an infringement of rights per by Entrope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A wrongful arrest is absolutely an infringement of the arrestee's rights.

    And this was a video of a game, not a video of a plausible violation of the school's rules on contraband (unless cell phones are contraband there).

  6. Re:An Aussie Perspective by SemperOSS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me get this straight, you think that the guy is rather silly because he posted game footage that also included a public place? What's the real difference between that and a movie about a killing spree in down-town Washington filmed in said location? The actual playing of the game is rather harmless as no guns are wielded, just a (deadly?) phone!

    I find it difficult that it is no longer possible for many people and powers that be to distinguish between a make-believe and reality. I am sure that the sheriff's department would be informed had a real incident happened. At least check the facts before arresting people. I think the silliness, if not outright stupidity, is to be found among people overreacting to literally harmless publishings like this.

    My conclusion: The terrorists have won!

    People are now so terrified of even little things that it is difficult to have fun if it is not entirely PC. Put the terrorist threat into context and look at how many people have died in the traffic in the last few years or from pneumonia or tuberculosis compared to how many people have died in terror attacks in the last 100 years.

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  7. Re:An Aussie Perspective by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

    " playing simulated lethal combat games within school grounds. "

    Nothing lethal about it. See, the thing is, zombies are already dead.

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  8. Re:Update by magusxxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm upping a patch tonight to replace the weapons with grief counselors.

    *thrown*
    *hits zombie*

    Counselor: "How does that make you feel? Did you take the physical contact personally?"

    *Counselor pulls out a plush High School Musical doll*

    Counselor: "Where on Zach Efron did I touch you?"

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  9. vampirbg by vampirbg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few guys in my high school did a similar thing with Doom in the 90s. Made a model of the school and some of the students, teachers etc as monsters and you could play a level killing them all. Nobody thought it was threatening. Don't see why this one would be?

  10. Re:An arrest is not an infringement of rights per by Entrope · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congratulations on supporting a police state?

    Something ambiguous that, depending on additional facts, either could be probable cause for a crime or could be innocuous is not itself PC. Those additional facts have to be deduced to find PC. In this case, they weren't there.