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Sea Level Rise Already Causing Billions in Home Value To Disappear (axios.com)

Sea level rise may seem like a far-off threat, but a growing number of new studies, including one out this week, shows that real estate markets have already started responding to increased flooding risks by reducing prices of vulnerable homes. From a report: According to a new report by the nonprofit First Street Foundation, housing values in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut dropped $6.7 billion from 2005 to 2017 due to flooding related to sea level rise. Combined with their prior analysis of 5 southeastern coastal states with $7.4 billion in lost home value, the total loss in 8 states since 2005 has been $14.1 billion. A recent slew of studies show how the housing market is responding to the increasing risk of coastal flooding -- with billions in value disappearing as investors wake up to the systemic risk.

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  1. Yes, but other property is increasing in value. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What is not waterfront property today, will be in the future. If I had lots of money I'd be buying it up now to resell later as increased value waterfront property.

    1. Re:Yes, but other property is increasing in value. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because the highest mountain is only 160 ft above sea level ?

      *squint*

      Because Hollywood people know shit about geography. Yet we trust them to inform us on the fine points of nuclear physics.

    2. Re:Yes, but other property is increasing in value. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He said "1/3 of the sea level rise". If the sea level rised 3cm, then 1cm would be caused by thermal expansion of the whole sea.

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  2. Re:Not from sea level rise by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In fact, we want to fill in those marshes and wetlands so we can build more homes close to the beach! Swamp land is so cheap that way! Buffer shmuffer, cheaper land to build - and more tax base for the city/county/State!

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  3. Re:Not from sea level rise by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And that is exactly what happens - it has been happening in the US since the 1940s. And to make it even worse, people are building on flood plains, having their homes flood, and blaming it on "climate change". There is such a push to blame everything on climate change you have to wonder about the motivations.

  4. slashdot at its worst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Climate change is yet another of those topics that brings out the worst in this "community". Morons either outright denying the reality of CC and its horrific impacts, or other morons trying to prove how smart they are by saying things like, "The real problem isn't sea level rise its the destruction of marshes."

    This place could be so much more than it is, if it weren't for the mental masturbators who can't simply accept the view of the overwhelming number of experts in a field.

    1. Re:slashdot at its worst by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who is denying the reality of climate change? My point is that the reason your flood plain or fucking beach house is flooding IS BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP THE WATER FROM ENTERING YOUR HOME. You drained the swamp, destroyed the wetlands. What the fuck you think is going to happen? No number of "carbon credits" is going to change it.

    2. Re:slashdot at its worst by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Insightful

      At least rant about the right boogeyman. It's the dams that are holding back the silt that are wrecking coastal beaches.

      Floodplains flood. Hence the name. Makes for great soil. Worth losing 1 crop in x. Still a nice farming business.

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    3. Re:slashdot at its worst by riverat1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Florida was supposed to be underwater by the 90s, and last time I checked it is still there.

      Show me any oceanographer with scientific credentials who ever said that. You're paying attention to the wrong people if you think that was an actual prediction.

    4. Re:slashdot at its worst by riverat1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There have been cases in science where 40,000 papers by experts had to be considered questionable. It is possible for a large number of experts to be wrong.

      What you always fail to mention in noting this factoid is that the vast majority of them are in the medical or social sciences field. When you get into the physical sciences the number of retractions is far smaller. I think that is a distinction worth making.

  5. Problem for rich people by reanjr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Primarily rich people and real estate investors wild be hit, while the middde class homes a bit farther inland will increase in value. Win/win.

  6. They were overvalued. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Common sense says don't build on a flood plain. Oh and stop destroying marshlands and wetlands that protect from flooding in the first place.

  7. Re:By The Same Token by HornWumpus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're born here, you are native.

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  8. national flood insurance by ooloorie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're not responding to sea level rise, they are responding to the expiration of the federal flood insurance program.

    As long as the federal flood insurance program was in place, people whose houses got flooded simply could rebuild a shiny new house at taxpayer expense again and again.

    As for sea level rise, it is happening and going to continue at roughly the same rate for a couple of centuries at least, no matter what we do, so that can't be the cause of sudden changes in coastal real estate prices. Whatever the threat may or may not be, it has been priced in for years.

    Furthermore, homes depreciate over about 30 years, so anything beyond that horizon is not worth worrying about.

    1. Re:national flood insurance by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately climate change does not work "gradually over hundreds of years".

      We're talking about sea level rise, not climate change. Sea level rise necessarily is slow and gradual.

      We in NY/NJ getting hit with hurricanes the likes of which we have not been seen before. Prime real estate at ocean front either got swept away and what is left of it lost all value. Even in my far from ocean town the houses close to river cannot be sold any longer.

      The only reason "ocean front real estate" is "prime" is because of massive government subsidies. Prior to those, people avoided the ocean front because they would be regularly subject to storms and other natural disasters.

      It's interesting what straws you people grasp at to justify your crony capitalism.

  9. Re:Why? Data doesn't support by riverat1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Battery Park in Manhattan shows effectively ZERO acceleration over the last 150 years or so, but I guess that's not an exciting Gloom And Doom headline...

    So Battery Park is a suitable proxy for sea level rise around the world? I think not. Meanwhile sea level measurements from satellites do show an acceleration in SLR.

  10. Re:By The Same Token by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you're a native American, you have ZERO RIGHT to say SHIT about immigrants, because one way or another YOUR ancestors were immigrants.

    Since the "native Americans" came here from Siberia 20K or so years back (except the Eskimos, who came here much more recently), that would imply that there are NO "native Americans', since their ancestors were also immigrants.

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