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Microsoft Announces Xbox All Access (thurrott.com)

Microsoft today confirmed the rumors: Xbox All Access is a new subscription offering that ties a console to Xbox Live Gold and Xbox Game Pass for two years. From a report: "For no upfront cost and one low monthly price for 24 months, Xbox All Access gets you a new Xbox One S or Xbox One X, access to more than 100 great games through Xbox Game Pass, and online multiplayer with Xbox Live Gold," Microsoft's Bogdan Bilan explains. "That's more than 100 all-you-can-play games -- including highly-anticipated new Xbox One exclusives the day they're released, plus more games added all the time on the fastest, most reliable gaming network and an Xbox One console." As previously reported, Xbox All Access is available only in the United States and will cost $22 or $35 per month, depending on whether you choose an Xbox One S or Xbox One X console.

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  1. Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT?

    1. Re:Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? by Luthair · · Score: 1

      You own at the end. I found this summary very confusing - to me it sounded like just bundling game pass & gold.

    2. Re:Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? by the_skywise · · Score: 1

      Same here - didn't realize this INCLUDES the box and was trying to figure out why I would pay more for the same game subscriptions on an X vs an S

    3. Re:Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You'll own the console at the end.

      The subscriptions, if purchased in the largest block available for each, will cost $360 for two years.
      - 12 month Xbox Live subscription: $60 x2 = $120
      - 6 month Xbox Game Pass subscription: $60 x4 = $240

      The Xbox One X costs $488 new right now. This works out to $848, versus an Xbox All Access subscription total of $840.
      The Xbox One S costs $257 right now. This works out to $617, versus the All Access total of $528.

      That's if you're paying all up front for everything, though, which defeats the purpose of this model in the first place.

      If you're paying monthly for your subscriptions, you're looking at $10/month each for Live and Game Pass. That's $480 for two years plus the up-front cost of the console.

      Obviously paying up-front will cost less, and you can get occasional deals for your 12 month and 6 month subscriptions if you have the up-front cash to go that route. That puts the cost of the Xbox One X a little bit better than All Access, but the Xbox One S is still a deal without any of the hassle. Casual gamers, rejoice.

      If you're going month-to-month on this, you're going to get hurt. The All Access with the One X costs $840 (that figure doesn't change, yay easy math!) versus $968 if you buy the console up front and then go monthly for your subscriptions. If you put the console on a credit card and pay the minimum, add your interest costs here. You'll lose $128 and come out with the same amount of ownership at the end.

      The month-to-month One S is going to cost $737, costing you an extra $209 over All Access. Again, add interest fees if you buy the console on credit to reduce up-front cost.

      So what does this all mean? If you want an Xbox One S, just sign up for All Access. It's cheaper no matter what route you go, as long as you intend to use both subscriptions.If you want the Xbox One X, and have the cash up front, go ahead and buy your setup. You'll save about $50 by getting your subscriptions on sale.

      Whatever you do, don't pay monthly for either Live or Game Pass. You're paying AT LEAST double for Live this way. Watch out for Microsoft automatically adding auto-renew to your account for these subscriptions. They'll renew at the monthly rate, not whatever pass you bought.

    4. Re: Do you own the Xbox? or rent? also EFT? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Even if you rented you'd rent better hardware.

  2. Does it include the original Tetris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just too many FPS these days. Need something without violence these days.

    1. Re:Does it include the original Tetris? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > Need something without violence these days.

      I hear Flower and Journey is available on PS3 & PS4. =P

      /me ducks

      Seriously though aren't there any puzzle games on the Xbone? Have you played The Witness ?

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    2. Re: Does it include the original Tetris? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I got tricky towers in a bundle. Check it out.

  3. the rent to own places will not like this but it w by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    the rent to own places will not like this but it works for cell phones

  4. Re:Learning from Telecom by devslash0 · · Score: 1

    Plus they'll have an excuse to bombard you with targeted ads and have absolute control as to what you can and cannot do with the device. Perhaps you'll only be allowed to play blue-ray films or run 3rd-party games if you upgrade to a higher plan.

  5. Re:the rent to own places will not like this but i by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    Not really. You still end up paying a lot more for a phone paying it over contract.
    But people want the newest shiniest phone that somehow cost $800.

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  6. Re:Learning from Telecom by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    They do this anyways.
    Compare the screen real estate for the game you have in the drive vs the ads.

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  7. Re:Learning from Telecom by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    You are going to need a PS2 and/or a NGC to remove the ads.
    360 will show them regardless of internet connection. Or at least mine did

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  8. Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? by Luthair · · Score: 3, Interesting

    almost every game that can, offers online multiplayer with VAC protection through Steam without a subscription. this is just beating the corpse of Ayn Rand. In other words, consoles are circling the drain so fast its starting to look like the nineties blockbuster rental gaming scene.

    As someone who plays both I think you're ignoring the selling points of consoles. They're simple, have an expected lifespan and thanks to significant price gouging by Intel & nvidia are a lot less expensive than PCs even accounting for Gold/PSN. Further given nvidia's recent announcement it looks like GPUs are staged to get even more expensive this generation.

  9. What I really would prefer by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    is a $22 a month Xbox Video service.

    Including NetFlix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, and some other streaming solutions, like CBS, TNT...

  10. Re:Fuck You Microsoft by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 1
  11. Re:Fuck You Microsoft by Binestar · · Score: 1

    I remember when I had an XBOX subscription.
    Guess what Microsoft decided to when it got hacked? They entirely cut off access for almost 2 fucking months straight!
    I will never willingly purchase another Microsoft product ever again.

    *CITATION NEEDED.
    In 2011 the PSN (Playstation Network) was cracked and was down for 23 days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    The longest outage for Xbox Live wasn't a complete outage, but rather a lack of capacity over the 2007-2008 holiday season which had connectivity issues for a period of 13 days.
    But Xbox live has never been down for "2 fucking months straight!"

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  12. Re:Fuck You Microsoft by SirAstral · · Score: 1

    I guess I should have clarified, I am talking about my subscription/account getting hacked.

    Microsoft decided the punishing me was the resolution to the problem. I could not play any games that required xbox live except as a guest, so I decided that Microsoft does not give enough of a shit to care, so around that time I decide I will no longer be buying any more consoles and just stick to playing PC games. Larger library and less trouble over all.

  13. Re: Learning from Telecom by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Nes and snes classic are available here in Sweden.

    Hardware-wise they are the same thing but you get longer cables and two cobtrollers with the snes/famicon plus fewer but more advanced games.

    You can flash them to get the other environment and add more games or a USB stick.

    Value for money seem to be snes if you want two controllers anyway.

  14. Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? by amorsen · · Score: 1

    In other words, consoles are circling the drain so fast its starting to look like the nineties blockbuster rental gaming scene.

    I have switched TO console gaming. It is so much easier to not have to check compatibility or deal with installations or try to get controllers working for a PC. So far it has been a very pleasant change. The games I play have mostly come in for "free" through PS Plus.

    Casual games work on the phone, of course, including World of Tanks Blitz. PC is great for single-player strategy of course, but I have actually been impressed by XCom-2 for the PS4.

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  15. Re:Try Quake 3 Defrag by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    It is definitely "Nintendo hard" or beyond, though.

    AKA we couldn't think of a decent gameplay mechanic and are going to kill you instead.

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  16. Tetris Ultimate by tepples · · Score: 1

    Tetris Ultimate for Xbox One is only $10. Or by "original", did you mean the pre-infinite spin version?

  17. Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? by tepples · · Score: 1

    True, consoles are easier for many, especially those happy with vanilla AAA games. But on consoles, it's a lot harder to install and use enthusiast-maintained mods that fix a game's user interface annoyances. And consoles tend to get smaller-budget games later than PC if at all.

  18. Re: I'll pay you with a Money All Access subscript by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Lots of people pay for the entertainment/creativity rather than token.

  19. Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? by Luthair · · Score: 2

    Those 'were' selling points. The console you're describing is going the way of the dinosaur.

    They haven't so far

    Now they require always on internet and monthly subscriptions. It's no longer simple or cheap.

    Not the case, and in fact PCs are far worse for that - you can still buy discs of console games while that is now a rarity for PC (though day-1 patches render discs limited). I have never subscribed to any of the console networking myself.

    Not when you can play games on your phone for pennies.

    Phone games are the worst for predatory pricing where its easy to spend more than the cost of an AAA game, but the reality is that gamers PC or console aren't typically users of phone games.

  20. Re:the rent to own places will not like this but i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You still end up paying a lot more for a phone paying it over contract.

    That probably depends on the carrier. For example, T-Mobile you end up paying the exact same amount for all phones except one, the iPhone 8, which costs a whopping 9 cents more than buying it outright.

  21. Re:Fuck You Microsoft by SirAstral · · Score: 1

    "Yes you very much should have clarified."

    I know right? I was talking about my subscription but everyone assumed "entire MS network". I keep forgetting that folks like you are so stupid that you read one thing and think something else entirely. I have to S P E L L I T out so that it is ELI5 quality verbiage.

    But you can be hostile as you want, Mr Butthurt!

  22. Re:Is anyone steering the ship at microsoft? by Luthair · · Score: 1

    If you haven't subscribed to Gold or PSN you're not really deep enough into console gaming to compare the two experiences.

    Or just maybe I play single player games? I did a lot of multiplayer gaming over the years and hit a point where I didn't want to bother with that anymore.

    Consoles have been transitioning to mid-range black box PCs for a while now. Every new generation gets closer and that trend seems strong. The Xbox One is running Windows 10. I have all the current gen consoles and a high end gaming PC. I find modern consoles and a modern gaming PC to have very similar user experiences except the PC has better graphics, more flexibility, and more game options but at a higher price tag.

    Not entirely sure how the architecture of a console is particularly relevant - its a question of what technical knowledge does the user need to know to use/buy the device (is it simple) and the performance / dollar. metric.