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Apple To Launch Three New iPhone Models Next Month, Report Says (bloomberg.com)

Next month, Apple plans to introduce three new phones in September -- an updated iPhone X, a bigger phone and a successor to the iPhone 8 with the iPhone X design, Bloomberg reports. The updated iPhone X could be considered as an "S upgrade" with a better system-on-a-chip and better cameras. The phone itself could look exactly the same as the iPhone X you can buy today. From the report: There'll be a new high-end iPhone, internally dubbed D33, with a display that measures about 6.5-inch diagonally, according to the people familiar with the matter. That would make it the largest iPhone by far and one of the biggest mainstream phones on the market. It will continue to have a glass back with stainless steel edges and dual cameras on the back. The big difference on the software side will be the ability to view content side-by-side in apps like Mail and Calendar. It will be Apple's second phone with a crisper organic light-emitting diode, or OLED, screen.

[...] Apple also plans an upgrade to the current iPhone X with a 5.8-inch OLED screen, which is internally dubbed D32, the people said. The main changes to the new OLED iPhones will be to processing speed and the camera, according to the people familiar with the devices. [...] Perhaps the most significant phone will be a new, cheaper device destined to replace the iPhone 8. Codenamed N84, it will look like the iPhone X, but include a larger near 6.1-inch screen, come in multiple colors, and sport aluminum edges instead of the iPhone X's stainless steel casing. It will also have a cheaper LCD screen instead of an OLED panel to keep costs down. The cheaper version's aluminum edges won't necessarily be the same color as the colored glass back, simplifying production, one person familiar with the matter said.

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  1. Whatever happened to innovation? by bobstreo · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yawn. "Cheaper Aluminum Phones...with cheaper screens"

     

    1. Re:Whatever happened to innovation? by blindseer · · Score: 1

      As oppose the other complaint of Apple devices? More expensive titanium/gold/unobtainium devices with a more expensive screen/touchbar/camera?

      This is just the expected Apple bashing. If Apple came out with a cures for breast cancer, sickle cell, and juvenile diabetes then they'd be pilloried for doing nothing for old white guys.

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    2. Re:Whatever happened to innovation? by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      As oppose the other complaint of Apple devices? More expensive titanium/gold/unobtainium devices with a more expensive screen/touchbar/camera?

      This is just the expected Apple bashing. If Apple came out with a cures for breast cancer, sickle cell, and juvenile diabetes then they'd be pilloried for doing nothing for old white guys.

      Totally false. They 'allegedly" cause testicular, prostate and brain cancer. They love white men.

        If you check your Apple Store terms of service they also require your will to be re-written to leave everything to them when you do die. /s

  2. Best New Feature by bogie · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard in addition to no headphone jack and no home button they have removed the microphone and speaker as well. You just have to drive to a cell phone tower and yell at it...

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    1. Re:Best New Feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But you will be yelling at it wrong!!

    2. Re:Best New Feature by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why we haven't seen a phone with no ports.Obviously you still need a speaker and a microphone. But once you have removed the headphone jack, you might as well remove the USB/Lightningport and just use wireless charging. Most people don't use it for data transfer anyway, and you can just do that over WiFi if you need to. To me it makes way more sense to remove the power port than it does to remove the headphone jack, especially if you have wireless charging. There's way more people who us the headphone jack than those who use the USB/Lightning jack for actual computer connectivity.

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    3. Re:Best New Feature by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Once the world settles on a wireless charging standard, and it starts to become more ubiquitious, like getting built into cars, we may well see things move that way.

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    4. Re:Best New Feature by blindseer · · Score: 1

      I heard in addition to no headphone jack and no home button they have removed the microphone and speaker as well. You just have to drive to a cell phone tower and yell at it...

      You laugh now but I could see this happen, except for the yell at the cell tower part, perhaps not from Apple though.

      People have become accustomed to using Bluetooth headsets for their cell phones, as well as other wireless accessories, and so there might not be a need for a speaker and microphone on the phone itself. Wireless charging is now a thing, as well as interfaces that don't use buttons. I'm not even sure the "home button" on recent models are a button any more. I think that they are just a capacitance sensor, with maybe a fingerprint reader, and use a small transducer inside to "wiggle" the phone a bit to give an impression that the button moved. Facial recognition and/or pass codes on a touch screen can secure the device just as well as a fingerprint detecting home button. There will be a camera and touch screen but the internal speaker and microphone could be replaced with a wireless headset, a "wristwatch" device, or whatever.

      I expect this new iPhone to have a speaker and microphone, the next model though... who knows?

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  3. Re:End days for Android by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    and then anti trust laws will force apple to open to 3rd party app stores and apk like side loading

  4. Battery Life by lazarus · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I just purchased a Thinkpad in favor of a mac laptop (I've been using the Apple brand exclusively for about a decade) because of their shitty keyboards, and I will be replacing my iPhone 7 plus with something non-Apple unless their new phones have much better battery life. I don't know what they are thinking, but a phone that lasts a solid day is more important than slightly faster graphics performance for the game you can play for an hour before your phone is dead.

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    1. Re:Battery Life by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 2

      my favourite thing is accidentally sliding my finger off the delete key and muting my laptop speaker

      did that this morning, again, during a conference call and spent 5 minutes wondering if the line had dropped because i couldnt hear anything

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    2. Re:Battery Life by llamalad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, you can toggle it to show function keys by default.

      Then you'll just have your whole screen slide over when you accidentally hit the picture of a key over delete.

      WTF ever happened to Apple's human interface guidelines? Consistency and sanity in a user interface (ie, don't steal focus from the user) was genius.

    3. Re:Battery Life by lazarus · · Score: 1

      Nice try Tim. We know who you really are.

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    4. Re:Battery Life by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Nice try Tim. We know who you really are.

      Really? Who am I?

  5. Swimming in low waters by aglider · · Score: 1

    It looks like to me.

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  6. SE by ChristTrekker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When what we really want is an upgrade to the SE. Small, inexpensive, to handle the basics of smartphone life, and that's it.

    1. Re:SE by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      I second this...oh well.

    2. Re:SE by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      When what we really want is an upgrade to the SE. Small, inexpensive, to handle the basics of smartphone life, and that's it.

      No, that's what YOU want.

      There's a difference.

    3. Re:SE by Pascal+Sartoretti · · Score: 1

      I also have an SE, and like its size.

      The problem is that too many applications today assume that you have at least something like an iPhone 6/7/8 (in terms of screen size), reducing their usability on an SE screen size.

    4. Re: SE by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Then why did the SE sell so well then?

      That's easy. While cosmetically it was relatively unchanged from previous models it had a larger ROM, improved graphics with a separate video buffer from RAM, and an improved controller for accessing storage. An increase in RAM was also standard. Also internally was room for a hard drive or second floppy, as well as ports for external floppy and hard drives. The keyboard and mouse ports were replaced with ADB, and the serial ports were standard (if uncommon at the time) 8-pin DIN sockets that were capable of LocalTalk. The SE also had an internal slot for adding things like Ethernet, video, and math coprocessor, which could expand it's capability considerably. RAM was still limited to 4MB max but upgradable by most anyone handy with a long handle Torx 15 screwdriver.

      Does that answer your question?

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  7. What's the deal with the larger phones? by the_skywise · · Score: 1

    Obviously I'm a grumpy old man (see my UID) but I don't see the point of having a phone that won't easily fit into your pocket and requires a fanny pack. Big screens are great ON TABLETS where I expect to carry them around like a notebook but not on a portable communications device! I like my iPhone6 size

    Unless this is some nefarious scheme to get around the bendy iPhone issue. There, see?! It won't fit in your pocket now so you don't have to worry about bending it!

    1. Re:What's the deal with the larger phones? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Another Grumpy /.'er here -- 5 digit id.

      I have both a 5 and 7+.

      When I got the 7+ the 5 got put away and mostly forgotten. I recently dug up the 5 since I was doing comparisons on the beautiful model 5 UI (v 6.1) and the fugly model 7 UI (v11.3). I was surprised at just "how small" the 5 is. At first I hated the large size of the 7+ but I've grown to like it. If you spend any amount of time web surfing or browsing YouTube on the phone then you'll appreciate the much larger screen size. There also have been a lot of UI Quality-of-Life features with v11 compared to v6.

      But yeah, from a portability POV, I agree, the large size of the 7 is on borderline suckage. Like you said, "It won't easily fit into your pocket." -- but I haven't had any issues with it not fitting. It fits, barely.

      I was at the barbershop recently and we got talking about phones, sizes, the upgrade cycles, and how it is better to wait -- upgrade every other version, or longer. I showed them the 7+ and they were impressed with how huge it was. IIRC I mentioned "Once you get used to it you don't really notice it."

      > and requires a fanny pack

      Strange, I haven't needed one (yet). Which brand of pants are you using that it doesn't fit? This is a total cop-out but maybe buy different pants? Yeah, yeah, I know, cue the bad jokes: "Your pants are wrong."

      Apple is going to continue selling the smaller SE for quite a while. I seriously doubt they will ditch the small size anytime soon.

      *shrug*

    2. Re:What's the deal with the larger phones? by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Grumpy old men prefer big screens to compensate for their deteriorating eyesight and their oversized shorts have pockets plenty big enough. That is, of course, assuming they use a cell phone at all. Furthermore, grumpy old men don't carry around tablets or notebooks for that matter.

      You are not a grumpy old man, just a whiner who can't imagine anything beyond what you already know. Not long ago your "iPhone6 size" was absurdly big.

    3. Re:What's the deal with the larger phones? by perpenso · · Score: 1

      Fortunately I can wear cargo pants/short much of the time but I just upgraded from the 6 to the SE over a more convenient size. The 6 seemed just barely comfortable in jeans and I'm over 6ft with a large frame. I can't use back pockets since I will forget and sit on the phone. I don't dislike the 6/7/8 size, I just didn't find the extra screen worth the extra size. Maybe it is an age thing, I don't watch movies on the phone, I'll use an iPad for that, maybe the occasional youtube video on the phone.

    4. Re:What's the deal with the larger phones? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Obviously I'm a grumpy old man (see my UID) but I don't see the point of having a phone that won't easily fit into your pocket and requires a fanny pack.

      You're obviously a grumpy old midget who wears skinny jeans. I can fit a 7" tablet into most of my pants pockets, so any cellphone is no problem.

      What I don't see is the point of having a phone that locks you into a walled garden into which plenty of monsters and reprobates seem to be able to enter.

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    5. Re:What's the deal with the larger phones? by Steve+Newall · · Score: 1

      I'm a grumpy old man, see my UID, and I have an iPhone 7 and I still use an old iPhone 4 when travelling ( I don't mind losing it ). Not all grumpy old men have bad eyesight.

  8. Re:Let The Poorfag Rage Commence by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Can't wait to laugh at all the butthurt and jealous android users that can't afford a proper smartphone.

    Seriously, it's just a phone, not a religion or way of life. I've never bought an iPhone for myself, but have for my teenager, twice now. I don't get why people get so worked up over this. But it is fun to say things that get people who are fanatical about any brand riled up on occasion.

    It is kind of sad to see an announcement from Apple like this though. Even if Jobs did over hype things. Seeing Apple state that the next release will simply be a bigger screen and/or a faster processor is kind of depressing.I'm sure if Steve Jobs were still around he would have found a way to make even a mundane upgrade like this sound more exciting. I'm sure the faster processor would be running at synapse speed or some such, and the bigger screen would be the "Fovea Display" because it fills that area of the eye perfectly at the average distance people hold their phone.

    Personally, I don't care anymore. I'm still running a Galaxy S5. It's a little bigger than I care for it to be, but does everything I need it for. I've been using smart phones since before they were called such and really hate switching phones anymore.

  9. Re:Cue Apple haters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've never bought any iPhone and will never buy one!

  10. Re:Too much. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    But .... they told me his meeting with Angela Merkel was a "meeting of the minds".

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  11. Re:Boring by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    Let me know when they doing something innovative again

    They never stopped.

  12. 90 minute keynote by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1, Funny

    What’s the over/under on how many of those minutes will be devoted to Animoji?

    I pick 42 minutes.

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    1. Re:90 minute keynote by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I heard the animoji will now be 4D. The talking poo will be rendered so realistic you can smell it.

  13. Re:End days for Android by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Not really. Google will be offering phones based on their Fuchsia operating system project by then. ;-)

  14. Hopefully they keep the SE by perpenso · · Score: 2

    I just upgraded to the SE from the 6, I wanted to return to a more convenient size. I upgraded now in case the SE got dropped in the upcoming refresh.

  15. Re: An apt naming convention by itguy01 · · Score: 1

    They may have "Xs" trademarked but not "iPhone Xs"...two totally separate trademarks.

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  16. I will buy these by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Just as soon as I feel like it.

    My iPhone 8 works perfectly fine, with it's maxed out memory.

    I'll buy the redo of the iPhone 5 that became the SE that will become the iPhone 12 SE, and only be advertised in Asia, but sold in the US if you order it.

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  17. LOL, let the sheeple line up now! by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Bet the lines outside the apple stores have started. Overpriced, over hyped, over powered. Not just Apple, Samsung as well. Oh well, that's the nice thing about CHOICE. Not my money if you want to waste it on stuff like that. Man, can you image Steve Jobs looking at a SIX INCH iPhone and complaining? You don't need a screen THAT big he said years ago.

  18. Re:No port and no buttons? by blindseer · · Score: 2

    Honestly I wish they'd just go USB-C since the lightning cable provides zero real benefit to me as a user other than being better than micro-USB (which sucks).

    It wasn't until fairly recently that USB-C supported alternate modes for audio and/or video. Until that was added to the spec such devices would need an external USB adapter, which added cost and complexity. Apple brought out Lightning in 2012, 2 years before USB-C was introduced, and it supported audio and video modes from the start. Remembering this history explains why Apple adopted the Lightning port to begin with. Keeping the port allows Apple to differentiate their devices from others, such as avoiding fried phones from out of spec cables in the early days of USB-C (and still lingers on for those that buy cheap).

    I expect Apple to stick with Lightning until they come up with something that's beyond USB-C. USB-C is great, and I like it a lot, but devices are already hitting limits on speed and power. Apple is no doubt working on a new Thunderbolt update that will require a connector other than USB-C to bring faster speeds and more power. I'm guessing Apple will introduce this new Thunderbolt connector and have it as a common port on phones, tablets, and laptops. Desktops will no doubt adopt it as well but also have some "legacy" USB-C and other ports to go with.

    I don't much care if Apple stays with Lightning or adopts USB-C, it's all the same to me. I'm thinking that maybe Apple should have put Lightning ports on the MacBooks to go with the USB-C so that they could share accessories with the iDevices. Then again this might be coming with whatever Thunderbolt 4 works out to be.

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  19. It will be called the iPhone Y by sootman · · Score: 1

    Pronounced "eleven".

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  20. Re: Let The Poorfag Rage Commence by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    I have that phone, and after 2 years the battery doesn't even last 8 hours. You are a fucking liar as usual.

    Yeah, like I believe an Anonymous COWARD.

    Log in and put your karma where your lyin' mouth is.

  21. Re: Let The Poorfag Rage Commence by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    My iPhone 6 Plus (with its ORIGINAL, nearly 4 year old battery), still makes it nearly a week with moderate use, and would sit at idle for at least a week. So I'm not sure where you're getting your lies from; but they are just that. Lies.

    A well know liar (you) tells others, that they are liars. That's precious.

    Prove it.

  22. Re: Let The Poorfag Rage Commence by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    Ya but you are an apple shill and a known LIAR. So bullshit.

    Sorry, no. Even if I use my phone fairly heavily, I still get at least 3-4 days on it.

    And after nearly 4 years, the battery still shows 93% capacity.

    Heck, the battery in my ancient iPad 2 still shows 89% capacity, and I use the HELL out of it!

  23. Apple should drop Lightning for USB-C by sjbe · · Score: 1

    It wasn't until fairly recently that USB-C supported alternate modes for audio and/or video.

    USB-C is faster, delivers more power, is cheaper, and is more versatile than Lightning as things stand today. The historical reasons why Apple developed Lightning are irrelevant and the reasons they continue to use it have almost nothing to do with any technical advantages of Lightning (which are few) over USB-C.

    Remembering this history explains why Apple adopted the Lightning port to begin with.

    Apple introduced the Lightning port because A) micro-USB severely sucks as a physical connector, and B) Apple wants a proprietary connector that they can control and charge extra for and C) USB-C wasn't available at the time. Two of those reasons have disappeared since then so the only reason Apple is continuing with Lightning is because they control it and are making money from it. It provides essentially zero technical benefit to iPhone users and creates a lot of needless waste and an unnecessary extra cable type.

    USB-C is great, and I like it a lot, but devices are already hitting limits on speed and power.

    That has precisely nothing to do with Lightning which is slower and carries less power than USB-C. Of course device makers are using all of its speed and capabilities and if it had more no doubt they would use more. I'm sure the next generation of USB-C will do more than the current one. None of that is relevant to the discussion of why Apple should drop Lightning.

    I'm thinking that maybe Apple should have put Lightning ports on the MacBooks to go with the USB-C so that they could share accessories with the iDevices.

    That would be idiotic given that USB-C is already on the MacBooks. Just put USB-C on the iDevices. Lightning is no longer required and should go away.