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YouTube Download Sites Are the Biggest Piracy Threat To Music Industry, Industry Figures Say (independent.co.uk)

Websites dedicated to "stream ripping" music from YouTube represent the biggest threat to the global music business, UK news outlet The Independent reported this week, citing industry figures, who added that that these shady sites are also posing business threat to "fantastic range" of legal streaming services such as Spotify and Apple Music. The report describes the nature of the issue: Sites that allow YouTube videos to be converted into an MP3 file and illegally downloaded to someone's phone or computer are attracting millions of visitors, with estimates suggesting that a third of 16-24-year-olds in the UK have ripped music from the Google-owned platform. Other platforms affected by the illegal ripping sites include DailyMotion, SoundCloud and Vimeo, however YouTube is by far the most pirated. The results of a crackdown that began in 2016 are beginning to be seen, thanks to a coordinated effort by organizations representing record companies in the US and the UK. Earlier this week, stream ripping website MP3Fiber was forced to shut down following legal pressure. However, dozens of sites offering similar services still remain active and are easily accessible through Google, whose search engine provides more than 100 million results for the term "YouTube MP3 converter." The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) said that even referring to the aforementioned questionable websites as "stream ripping" sites is misstating copyright law. "There exists a vast and growing volume of online video that is licensed for free downloading and modification, or contains audio tracks that are not subject to copyright," the EFF told the US Office of the United States Trade Representative last year. "Moreover, many audio extractions qualify as non-infringing fair uses under copyright. Providing a service that is capable of extracting audio tracks for these lawful purposes is itself lawful, even if some users infringe."

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  1. Tell me how by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this is any different from the Supreme Court ruling in 1984 about using VHS tapes to record TV. This is just the 2018 version of that.

  2. The War On Drugs ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... oh, sorry.

    The War On Piracy ...

    Know what?

    Both models work the same, as in not.

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  3. LOL by Archfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The music industry and the sampled rebroadcast crap they call music for the most part are the biggest danger to the music industry today.

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  4. Re:Nope by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um, yes, that what the headline said.

    Youtube is a threat to the music industry, not to the musicians.

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  5. Still around by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Napster came out 16 years ago, the music industry is still here and still making money. You can only cry wolf so many times before people start ignoring you.

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  6. They sound like a broken record by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful
    My apologies to you young'uns who have no idea what a broken record sounds like (the needle skips a groove so the same section of music plays over and over again).
    • Cassette tapes were the biggest piracy threat since they allowed people to make their own copies of music.
    • Combination radios with cassette recorders were the biggest piracy threat since they allowed people to record music playing on the radio.
    • The VCR was the biggest piracy threat to the movie industry.
    • Videotape rental stores were the biggest piracy threat to the movie industry, since people could just watch any movie they wanted.
    • MP3s were the biggest piracy threat since they allowed music to be freely traded without any media.
    • The Internet was the biggest piracy threat since it allowed music and movies to be distributed without needing physical media.
    • YouTube is the biggest piracy threat since it makes it easy for people to capture a copy of a song they're listening to.

    Everyone else understands that new technology comes with advantages and disadvantages. But the new technology is preferred because the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Only the music and movie industries don't seem to get this, and focus only on the disadvantages while ignoring the advantages. Their piracy claims have been wrong every single time. Cassette tapes led to increased music sales, since it freed music from a record needle sitting in a groove, meaning you could now listen to music in your car or while jogging. Radio/cassette recorders allowed people to listen to music two different ways with a single device, so led to people listening to more music since the playback devices now cost less them less. VCRs spawned the movie sale industry, allowing movie studios to make more money than they ever could through theater releases alone. Sales to video rental stores eventually eclipsed videotape sales as the biggest revenue source for movie studios. MP3s became the ubiquitous method to store and distribute music in the 21st century. Internet-based music and movie sales and rentals have now eclipsed disc-based sales and rentals. And YouTube remains the easiest way to quickly check out new releases and new genres of music, and view movie trailers on demand without having to hope to catch it during a commercial break on TV

    In every single case, their prophecies of doom by piracy have not only been proven wrong, but the new technology has led to increased sales of music and movies. Yet these two industries cannot seem to break their habit of demanding the new technology be shut down before it "destroys" them. Life isn't perfect. You're never going to get rid of piracy. As long as the benefits of a service like YouTube outweigh the piracy drawbacks, it's a net win. Just like retail stores don't shut down just because they lose some inventory to shoplifting. The benefits of increased sales from allowing customers to see, feel, and browse the merchandise in person outweighs the drawback of loss due to shoplifting.

    1. Re:They sound like a broken record by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Great list! I would also add:

      * Humming music was the biggest piracy threat because artists weren't getting their "fair share"

      * Used CD sales was the biggest piracy threat because according to clueless, greedy asshats artists aren't paid royalties on these transactions,

      * Guitar Hero was the biggest piracy threat since it allowed gamers to play music over and over again onlyh having to pay once,

      Aerosmith has reportedly earned more from Guitar Hero : Aerosmith than from any single album in the band's history.

      * iTunes was the biggest piracy threat since it allowed music and movies to be distributed without needing physical media.

      This is different from .mp3 since Apple's .aac used to be DRM protected but did these wankers complain about that when Apple removed DRM from their music?

      Furthermore, why did it take a computer company to sell music???

      The only thing the music industry knows how to is whine, constantly. It's not fucking rocket science. People just want:

      * Access to music, regardless of device, and
      * The ability to pay for it.

      Piracy shows you have a distribution opportunity not a price problem.