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This is the Story of the 1970s Great Calculator Race (twitter.com)

An anonymous reader shares a thread [Editor's note: all links in the story will lead you to Twitter]: In the 1970s the cost -- and size -- of calculators tumbled. Business tools became toys; as a result prestige tech companies had to rapidly diversify into other products -- or die! This is the story of the 1970s great calculator race... Compact electronic calculators had been around since the mid-1960s, although 'compact' was a relative term. They were serious, expensive tools for business. So it was quite a breakthrough in 1967 when Texas Instruments presented the Cal-Tech: a prototype battery powered 'pocket' calculator using four integrated circuits. It sparked a wave of interest. Canon was one of the first to launch a pocket calculator in 1970. The Pocketronic used Texas Instruments integrated circuits, with calculations printed on a roll of thermal paper. Sharp was also an early producer of pocket calculators. Unlike Canon they used integrated circuits from Rockwell and showed the calculation on a vacuum fluorescent display. The carrying handle was a nice touch!

The next year brought another big leap: the Hewlet-Packard HP35. Not only did it use a microprocessor it was also the first scientific pocket calculator. Suddenly the slide rule was no longer king; the 35 buttons of the HP35 had taken its crown. The most stylish pocket calculator was undoubtedly the Olivetti Divisumma 18, designed by Mario Bellini. Its smooth look and soft shape has become something of a tech icon and an inspiration for many designers. It even featured in Space:1999! By 1974 Hewlett Packard had created another first: the HP-65 programmable pocket calculator. Programmes were stored on magnetic cards slotted into the unit. It was even used during the Apollo-Soyuz space mission to make manual course corrections. The biggest problem for pocket calculators was the power drain: LED displays ate up batteries. As LCD displays gained popularity in the late 1970s the size of battery needed began to reduce. The 1972 Sinclair Executive had been the first pocket calculator to use small circular watch batteries, allowing the case to be very thin. Once LCD displays took off watch batteries increasingly became the norm for calculators. Solar power was the next innovation for the calculator: Teal introduced the Photon in 1977, no batteries required or supplied!

But the biggest shake-up of the emerging calculator market came in 1975, when Texas Instruments -- who made the chips for most calculator companies -- decided to produce and sell their own models. As a vertically integrated company Texas Instruments could make and sell calculators at a much lower price than its competitors. Commodore almost went out of business trying to compete: it was paying more for its TI chips than TI was selling an entire calculator for. With prices falling the pocket calculator quickly moved from business tool to gizmo: every pupil, every student, every office worker wanted one, especially when they discovered the digital fun they could have! Calculator games suddenly became a 'thing', often combining a calculator with a deck of cards to create new games to play. Another popular pastime was finding numbers that spelt rude words if the calculator was turned upside down; the Samsung Secal even gave you a clue to one!

The calculator was quickly evolving into a lifestyle accessory. Hewlett Packard launched the first calculator watch in 1977... Casio launched the first credit card sized calculator in 1978, and by 1980 the pocket calculator and pocket computer were starting to merge. Peak calculator probably came in 1981, with Kraftwerk's Pocket Calculator released as a cassingle in a calculator-shaped box. Although the heyday of the pocket calculator may be over they are still quite collectable. Older models in good condition with the original packaging can command high prices online. So let's hear it for the pocket calculator: the future in the palm of your hand!

187 comments

  1. TI? Bah! by willoughby · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was an HP calculator which rode along on the Space Shuttle.

    https://airandspace.si.edu/col...

    1. Re:TI? Bah! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      AFAIR the TI keys were known to become mechanically unresponsive after a few weeks of use.

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    2. Re:TI? Bah! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I like Casio graphic models because they are the only ones that support SI engineering units. Saves a lot of time compared to having to enter x10^-9. Their non-graphic ones used to have those units as shift functions on some keys but they removed it a few years back.

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    3. Re:TI? Bah! by butzwonker · · Score: 1

      I have a HP50g, a HP48, and a HP12 clone (Victor V12) and still find RPN and the lack of full Undo so impractical that I usually reach for one of my old Casios when I need to calculate something.

    4. Re:TI? Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To each his own, I guess. I grew up on RPN - my high school chemistry teacher got an HP35 when they came out (with his own money, mind you), and he let the students use it. These days I use an HP41CV (purchased at a flea market) at home, and an HP12C at work. My HP45 (from my college years) is in its box in the closet (still works, though the batteries are unobtanium these days).

      I remember calculator races between TI and HP, to see which notation was "better". I think the skills of the user mattered more than the notation.

    5. Re:TI? Bah! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      HP48 has undo...

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    6. Re:TI? Bah! by drstevep · · Score: 1

      Nope. I had an SR-10 (1973) and an SR-50 (1974). I don't know where the SR-50 is, but the SR-10 STILL WORKS!

      I went to a technical school (RPI) with the ongoing battle between RPN and algebraic notation (HP vs. TI). I knew a lot of people that had both, and both families lasted very nicely under heavily used conditions.

    7. Re: TI? Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wanted to get an SR 50 for physics classes in college but they cost $150. I could not come up with the money so I got a Bowman with all the same functions for $99. It used dual function keys while the TI had individual keys. I got by but I was not as cool as the guys was had the SR 50.

    8. Re:TI? Bah! by kschendel · · Score: 1

      That's BS. My parents sprang for an SR-11 when I was a junior in high school, and an SR-51 in college. I'm not sure if my SR-51 was an "A" or not. The SR-11 was passed on and I have no idea where it might be today. The SR-51 ran for years, although I used it less and less, and finally burned out a resistor in the power circuit; I never got it fixed.

      Never had any issue with the keys functioning on either calculator. They were workhorses. A lot of my friends had TI's as well, never heard of a key problem.

    9. Re:TI? Bah! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I also liked Casio models (especially given their price), but mostly used HP for the RPN. I can't speak for TI, but HP always had an exponent key like you describe. You can try it out here online. Just press 7, EEX, 4, Enter and you'll see 70,000 as the result.

      I just Googled, and even their latest "HP Prime" graphing calculator retains this button.

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    10. Re:TI? Bah! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      That's not BS. Talking about the TI-57 series.

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    11. Re:TI? Bah! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, EXP is okay, but if you do electronics you often need a lot of small units. So for microamps you need to press 7 EXP 9 +/-. With Casio the older ones you could do 7 SHIFT u, and on the newer ones you could have the shortcut keys on screen so it's one key. Having a "u" on screen saves a lot of space and makes the function a lot easier to read when you have lots of them.

      The graphic ones can display the SI suffixes in results too.

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    12. Re:TI? Bah! by butzwonker · · Score: 2

      But you can only undo one step...

    13. Re:TI? Bah! by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      HP45 NiCd battery packs show up on eBay regularly. For less than $10. I bet they even work from the looks of them.

      And if you have the old carrier, fix it.

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    14. Re:TI? Bah! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Ah, I'm a mechanical engineer, so my problem set was probably different. I never needed the calculator to know my units, as I generally just did any conversions after getting the final number - if the number was absurdly huge or small, I'd change to Pa or MPa from kPa for instance. I was keeping track of units on paper so it wasn't necessary to plug that into the calculator. Because of the way I kept track of units, RPN was almost always preferable for me compared to algebraic, but like I said I almost always had a Casio with me because "programmable" calculators weren't allowed in many exams. I never warmed to TI calculators, and they were always atrociously priced... I must have just missed the boat on those being required in high school.

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    15. Re:TI? Bah! by tantrum · · Score: 1

      well, with custom keys and the excellent programming abilities on the unit I would think that you could create a "unlimited" undo function by just storing every keypress into a logfile and then roll that back as you need.

      I still code a bit on my hp48gx for fun :)

    16. Re:TI? Bah! by colinwb · · Score: 1

      In astronomy the practice was (still is?) to work in non-specific units and then convert the answer to the wanted units using a correction factor. There is a story that Herman Bondi and Fred Hoyle made such a calculation with giving to the other the answer in non-specific units, adding that the correct factor was something like Y * 10**15, to which the other jokingly asked "multiply or divide"?

    17. Re:TI? Bah! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I wish they would still make really good engineer calculators. They all seem to be focused on academia these days.

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    18. Re:TI? Bah! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I'm not the field-type mechanical engineer, but the desk type. I don't really use them anymore since I have Python/MATLAB/etc available at all times. And then there's my smart phone, with my favorite old HP calculator emulator. Yeah, it's not quite the same - but for those rare calculator moments it gets the job done. I imagine I'd have something different to say if I worked in the field a lot - but I bet even those guys constantly have a laptop or something around.

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    19. Re: TI? Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then say that next time. You made it sound like all TIs had this issue.

  2. Good Tools will always be around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have the same scientific calculator model now as I did when I went through university, 30 years ago. Hammers age slowly, once peak hammer was reached. Screwdrivers, ditto. The scientific calculator with its multi-line LCD screen will be around for a long time yet.

    1. Re:Good Tools will always be around by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 1

      So very true. The TI-99 that is sitting 5 feet away from me says so. Sadly, the sliderule sits in a drawer unused and nearly forgotten.

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    2. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It is almost impossible to find new slide rules now: Only a few manufacturers are left, and even fewer manufacture them to the same standards as the best older slide rules. I still have one, which I keep as an heirloom.

    3. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      "Hammers age slowly, once peak hammer was reached. Screwdrivers, ditto.

      You're sure about that? Go into your hardware store, screwdrivers aren't what they used to be. All standardized interchangeable bits now, and ratcheting handles. Not your grandaddy's screwdriver.

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    4. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too stupid to just look for grandpa's Xcelite tools online, eh?

      They're good enough that most tech companies use them, and have for decades.

    5. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could not find any new slide rules. All I could find was some second hand stuff and a few "unopened" ones on eBay. I do not think anyone is still making them.

    6. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too stupid to just look for grandpa's Xcelite tools online, eh?

      They're good enough that most tech companies use them, and have for decades.

      You can buy Xcelite on Amazon or Techni Tool. If you need something in a hurry, you can get some pretty good rubber grip handle screwdrivers from Lowe's. Their Kobalt brand isn't bad and has a lifetime warranty. GP must be shopping at WalMart or Big Lots.

    7. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

      Concise (Japan) sill makes them:

      eg. https://www.sliderule.tokyo/pr...

      You could buy new Faber-Castells online until last year.

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    8. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Sique · · Score: 2

      The problem with bits and ratcheting handles is that they are much more prone to wearing out the screw than fixed screwdrivers. Bits also tend to fall out of the handles at inconvenient times and to disappear somewhere in smal holes and openings and to shortcut something there. If you look at the professionals, they seldom use bits, but have dedicated screwdrivers for each size.

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    9. Re:Good Tools will always be around by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

      Of course, there's an app for that:
      https://play.google.com/store/...

    10. Re:Good Tools will always be around by mark-t · · Score: 2

      Depends on the screwdriver. I've seen at least one that uses a pin to lock the bit in so that it can't fall out during use.

    11. Re:Good Tools will always be around by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There are still some out there, including the original "calculator" watch: https://www.breitling.com/us-e...

    12. Re:Good Tools will always be around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All standardized interchangeable bits now, and ratcheting handles. Not your grandaddy's screwdriver.

      I don't think that you are using "all" correctly. There are plenty of standard screwdrivers for sale at every reasonable pricepoint. The cheap ones from Harbor Freight are decent, the huskys and kobalts from home depot and lowes are good, and the expensive ones from snap on are presumably better somehow.

      You remind me of the people who erroneously claim that Lego only makes specialized pieces now, and not plain bricks.

    13. Re:Good Tools will always be around by swillden · · Score: 1

      It is almost impossible to find new slide rules now: Only a few manufacturers are left, and even fewer manufacture them to the same standards as the best older slide rules. I still have one, which I keep as an heirloom.

      I bought a new one on ThinkGeek a few years ago... but it doesn't look like they carry them any more. And the one I bought was pretty low quality -- loose-fitting plastic with fairly fat lines. I inherited a couple of old ones from my father in law, and they're so much better. Metal with ultra-fine lines on them and tightly-fitted enough that you need to lubricate them from time to time.

      An elegant tool of a more civilized age. Or something. I do like my slide rules, though I'm pretty slow at using them.

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  3. Hurrah. by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

    Now this is a nerd story we can all enjoy.

    I bought what I could afford a T.I. SR-56, the year I graduated from High School. There was no way I could afford a full computer. I spent a lot of time programming that thing.

  4. glued by guygo · · Score: 1

    I had an HP-65 early on; loved programming it but the power was flaky. Then I got an HP-25 and it was glued to my side for years. Do androids count with RPN? Yes, yes they do.

    1. Re:glued by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It was years later before I could afford a calculator without an equal key that blew the stack when you pressed it.

      My first was an HP-11c. Damn fine calculator, they still sell on the used market for a lot to people who actually use them.

      There is even a company, SwissMicros, selling a modern clone of the HP-15c, and other very nice RPN calculators.

    2. Re:glued by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do androids count with RPN?

      I think you mean

      Count RPN with androids do?

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    3. Re:glued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google wp-34s, it repurposes a cheap hp business calc w/a nice throwback scientific firmware. The biggest challenge is getting a programming cable or cobbling one together yourself... These are pre hp 28s alike.

      HP hands down made the best scientific calcs, and they are hackable as hell, right down to Saturn assembly programming if you wish, 'unofficially'.

    4. Re:glued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have, and actually use, an original HP-11C. Albeit I should confess I did replaced the original batteries several times, unlike the happy HP-15C owner from the comment below.

  5. Must we read it on Twitter? by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was interested in the material until I realized every link was to a tweet. We can do better than this.

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    1. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I realized every link was to a tweet. We can do better than this.

      Hey, if they can run the White House from Twitter, one can run Slashdot from it also.

    2. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      At least give a warning like for PDFs. I'm on mobile and every link wants to open the Twitter app.

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    3. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 0

      Came here to say the same thing. I twitter would fucking go away. It offers no benefit to society.

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    4. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 1

      At least give a warning like for PDFs. I'm on mobile and every link wants to open the Twitter app.

      On mobile, I long-press every link on /. to see the URL first. It's the only way to be safe.

    5. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      And Putin runs the tweeter from Moscow?

    6. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the battle of the reposts

      who can repost more? slashdot editors or an orange idiot in a white house sitting on the shitter at 4am.
      new series coming soon to netflix.

    7. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      You could delete the Twitter app from your phone. You probably won't miss it.

    8. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      At least give a warning like for PDFs. I'm on mobile and every link wants to open the Twitter app.

      On mobile, I long-press every link on /. to see the URL first. It's the only way to be safe.

      On mobile, I set my browser to desktop mode permanently.

      It's the only way to actually browse shit properly.

    9. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Funny

      In America, we run the White House via Twitter. In Soviet Russia, we run America via Twitter.

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    10. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      There's no chance of that.

      Twitter could probably ask for a $1 billion bailout tomorrow and Trump would pay it.

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    11. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

      Twitter could probably ask for a $1 billion bailout tomorrow and Trump would order congress or the executive branch to pay it.

      Fixed that for ya. Trump couldn't - and wouldn't - come up with $1B of his own money. He seems himself to be above such things anyways; he is sharing his wisdom through that medium therefore he believes it should be paid for by someone else.

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    12. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      and Trump would order congress or the executive branch to pay it.

      Or not. The Executive Branch doesn't actually have funds to do this sort of thing (or, at least, aren't supposed to), or anything, really. Congress is the only branch of the Federal Government with the power to spend money - they make the budget, and specify who can spend what on everything....

      At least, that's the design of the system. How we've distorted things since FDR are another question entirely....

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    13. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How I'm supposed comment without reading the TFA if there's no FA to be read? Now I'm going to comment without clicking in the FTL (freaking tweeter link).

    14. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aha, in Soviet America, Twitter runs you?

    15. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      You write that as if reality has somehow been an impediment to this administration. They flushed the constitution down the white house toilet long ago. Damn the torpedoes and all that...

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    16. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Isn't it the "summary" in Slashdot the entire contents of the twits? Yes, you gotta visit the actual twits if you want to see the pics but...is that that bad?

    17. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      I believe nuking Twitter from high orbit is the only way to be sure.

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    18. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Yes, you gotta visit the actual twits if you want to see the pics but...is that that bad?

      In this case, it is rather bad. Some of the texts tell me how great the design of a given device was, but then I have to click the tweet to see the image that actually shows how great it was. If this was an actual article I could just page through it and see the text and images in one coherent location; instead I get snippets, images, and then drivel from tons of random people I don't give a shit about. I really don't give half a shit about which calculator helps Trump's accountant's brother's hooker's dog walker's rabbi's best friend get off.

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    19. Re: Must we read it on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuckin' A

    20. Re:Must we read it on Twitter? by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      too bad will rogers was not around to say that...

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  6. Self-promotion by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every single link in the summary points to the same Twitter account. @PulpLibrarian isn't very anonymous, but he's a coward for the lame attempt.

    1. Re:Self-promotion by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 3, Funny

      /. has really gone downhill. Next thing you know, Buzzfeed will be a highly cited source.

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    2. Re:Self-promotion by barc0001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It might be self promotive, but the content was still more interesting than 90% of the posts on this site.

    3. Re:Self-promotion by macraig · · Score: 1

      Probably true - and how sad is that - but I was still obligated to call out the anonymous self-promotion.

  7. HP were real engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a HP-15C purchased in 1985 and it is still running on the original batteries - 32 years!
    That is phenomenal low power design for the technology and knowledge at the time.

    1. Re:HP were real engineers by mmogilvi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I replaced the batteries in my 15c for the first time a couple of years ago. And just to be clear, it has three small non-rechargable button batteries, like you would find in a watch.

    2. Re:HP were real engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      those damn polish engineers and their backwards notation.

    3. Re:HP were real engineers by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

      I have a HP-15C purchased in 1985 and it is still running on the original batteries - 32 years!
      That is phenomenal low power design for the technology and knowledge at the time.

      That's phenomenal even by today's design standards!

    4. Re:HP were real engineers by smoot123 · · Score: 1

      I still use both (yes, "both") of my HP-16c calculators. I have to replace the batteries every decade or so. Dang.

    5. Re:HP were real engineers by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      I have a casio from around the same time that's still running on its original solar cell.

    6. Re:HP were real engineers by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      You can run a lot of things with low use. I'm more impressed the insides of your calculator are still in one piece and haven't been corroded to hell by the batteries.

    7. Re:HP were real engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember the Radio Shack Model 100 of 1980? Size of a ream of paper, weighed about 5 lb. Nice keyboard, small LCD display (8 lines of 40 characters) but usable. Ran 20 hours on 3 AA batteries. Up to 32K of RAM - all low-power CMOS, held for 20-30 days by an internal NiCd without main power, and a low-power 8085 CPU. Programmed in a flavor of MS BASIC that defaulted to double precision and had all the usual math functions. Built-in software was a text editor, a dumb terminal, and a couple of other utilities; if you wanted a calculator, you brought up BASIC (in ROM) and used immediate mode. Later, other stuff was developed for it, and I still have mine complete with an accessory ROM that provides a spreadsheet, database, and print formatter. Startup was instant: flip the slide switch on the side. Last computer Bill Gates personally wrote software for. Journalists of the time bought them en masse - not for the math, but for the modem; they could write stories on-site with the text editor and call it in from any phone booth with little cups to fit the receiver (at 300 bps). Olde dayze - but some of those engineers knew what they were doing (the Model 100 was actually built by Kyocera, which along with NEC had its own version with slight software and keyboard differences).

      Radio Shack also house-labeled the Sharp Pocket Computers, which were popular in some professions.

    8. Re:HP were real engineers by CWCheese · · Score: 1

      I still have my HP-12C that took me through college and my first decade of engineering in the aerospace business. Found it in a box of old office supplies recently and it came on after I replaced the batteries. These days I use an RPN calculator app on my phone thatI configured with an HP face, sometimes I grab the HP for old times sake. But my first calculator was the TI-30 with the denim printed vinyl case. I wish I knew where it went, probably lying in some box in my garage. I miss the bright red LED display that hurt your eyes after a while. That was my high school buddy, until my friend got an HP - well actually he borrowed his big brother's HP-41CV - and I learned RPN. When I started college, the TI-30 went with me but I picked up my HP-12C at the bookstore and have had it since 1980.

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    9. Re: HP were real engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Engineers of past had it easy, any monochrome and barely readable LCD would suffice for even the most sophiscated device. Nowadays everything must have a colorfull, big and bright display that eats power like there's no tomorrow.

    10. Re: HP were real engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HP-11C for me, purchased in March 1983. Two years ago I replaced batteries for 4th time. Marvellous device.

  8. "Anonymous"? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Not hard to figure out who you are since exactly 18 of the 18 links you posted are to your own Twitter account.

    I hope people who can be bothered with Twitter accounts show up there to give you a well-deserved really hard time.

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    1. Re:"Anonymous"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh get a life

  9. This man's Navy, ca. 1965 ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... I was in Memphis, Tenn. studying electronics using a slide rule.

    Our classroom had a LARGE one above the blackboard, kinda like the large alphabet signs in grade school.

    As an extension of the physics portion, I became enthralled by Special Relativity (SR).

    I did a deep dive and manipulated the math to gain an intuitive real-world feel for SR.

    A huge fucking problem was extracting square root.

    SR only manifests itself at high percentages of the speed of light in a vacuum.

    A slide rule was useless when going for lots of decimal places, so I extracted square root by hand using paper and pencil.

    It was very painful.

    I'd have to perform the calculation three (3) times to verify that I had not made a mistake.

    I often asked myself, "Am I trying to understand SR or trying to learn how to successfully find the goddam square root?"

    It was a massive speed bump.

    The first time I saw a "pocket" calculator, an officer was wearing one aboard the aircraft carrier.

    It had four functions: add, subtract, multiply, and divide.

    It looked like those goddam Motorola cell phones where the antenna tickled your arm pit.

    $1,000.

    Later, I bought a TI for $100 and it was an improvement because it also had one memory and ... SQUARE ROOT!.

    Thank you Jesus!

    At last, I could skate right by the speed bump and begin to grok SR.

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    It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    1. Re:This man's Navy, ca. 1965 ... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Chop off the decimals 2 at a time, and add back 1 decimal to the answer in the end. That brings those tiny SR fractions down to more manageable sizes.

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      I come here for the love
    2. Re:This man's Navy, ca. 1965 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eat shit and die! ~ CaptainDork

    3. Re:This man's Navy, ca. 1965 ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Not necessary for my purposes.

      After a dozen numbers left of the decimal, the point (see what I did there) comes across.

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    4. Re: This man's Navy, ca. 1965 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stay classy you fat piece of Shit

  10. Remember log tables? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Do you remember log tables? We were taught them as historic math, a curiosity not really for use.

    Now I have a Casio pocket calculator that does symbolic math, and it cost me less than $20 with a battery lasting 5 years.

    1. Re: Remember log tables? by guygo · · Score: 1

      I do, but preferred my log-log slipstick

  11. Olivetti Divisumma 18 by JBMcB · · Score: 2

    My dad's friend was a gadget hound, and had one of these in the 80's. Not a great machine. The keys were weird and mushy. It had no electronic display. It only had a thermal printer that printed shiny dark gray numbers on shiny light gray paper. In other words, visibility was poor. It looked amazing, though, and you could spill a coke on it and the keys would still work.

    Much more impressive but more utilitarian - he had a completely electro-mechanical rotary auto-dial telephone. It took small, hard plastic punch cards you'd put the number on. You'd push the card into a slot on the telephone, and it would feed the card in and out, generating pulses until it got to the number you punched out. Then it would pull the card back in and do it again for the next number until the whole number was dialed. No digital anything, just relays and motors.

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    My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
    1. Re:Olivetti Divisumma 18 by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No digital anything, just relays and motors.

      Relays aren't digital? s/digital/electronic/

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  12. 58008618 by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    (To be read upside down on an old calculator)

    1. Re:58008618 by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

      "Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine"

      Dammit. Got me again!

    2. Re:58008618 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that 6 ought to be a 9, right?

    3. Re:58008618 by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Pfft only kids go for 58005918. Adults are happy with a nice woman even if she only has 5318008

    4. Re:58008618 by bgarcia · · Score: 1

      An upside-down 6 is a lowercase g, so it was commonly used as well.

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      I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
    5. Re:58008618 by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      I was a kid when these calculators came out. As an adult, I'm more into 5637.

  13. Polak Jokes: Thanks HP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was HP who started them.

  14. HP-48 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I miss the HG-48 from the 80â(TM)s. It was great. Slow by todayâ(TM)s standards of course because (I think) it ran a lot of itâ(TM)s functions in some kind of interpreted language. But in addition to all the functions we think about today it had a great equation library in it. I rarely had to memorize an equation; I just needed to understand it. It was also highly programmable with lots of optional expansions for it (I think those required the 48-GX?)

    You could even turn the thing into an IR remote control for TVs and such.

    Of course, now we have literal pocket computers so this is really just history at this point. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if you suddenly appeared in 1990 with even a HP PDA (forget what those were called). People would think you were James Bond or something. Then when the NSA picked you up you could try to convince them that you really are from the future and that your Vorlon ship is waiting in orbit.

    1. Re:HP-48 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use my HP48SX. It replaced my HP25 that I used for years and years until it died.
      Both amazing calculators.

    2. Re: HP-48 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The IR was so weak though you had to sit within 3 feet of the TV. But, the purpose was to control a printer and 3 feet is plenty there.

    3. Re: HP-48 by Agripa · · Score: 1

      The IR was so weak though you had to sit within 3 feet of the TV. But, the purpose was to control a printer and 3 feet is plenty there.

      The IR was made deliberately weak after schools complained about students sharing test answers.

    4. Re: HP-48 by toddestan · · Score: 1

      You could get more range by popping off the plastic cover over the LEDs too.

  15. Junkulator by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I had a TI calculator in college in the mid 80's that was a piece of junk. Keys would become harder to press, and the display got progressively dodgy. Eventually it would erase memory when certain keys were pressed. It had the lowest price per features, but you got what you paid for.

    I think it was the TI 35 Slim-Line.

  16. SInclair ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where is Sinclair in this story ? They made some very nice calculators in the very early days.

    Today I hardly use a real calculator anymore, smartphone does it nicely.

    1. Re:SInclair ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans. Nothing done outside of their borders counts, and they invented everything first.

    2. Re:SInclair ? by ContextSwitch · · Score: 1

      Oh I remember them! Do you recall the way the display went all weird when it was doing the calculation?

      I also remeber my physics teacher extolling the virues of Sinclair calculators, the man being "they've done more for mental arithmetic than anything else".

    3. Re: SInclair ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I remember them. They could explode in your pocket. They could claim prior art for the Galaxy Note 7.

  17. I Had an HP 35 ! by TechnoGrl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember that one - it was my first calculator. I used it - or tried to in my college Physics class back in 74 but they refused to let me use it for exams! The made me use a slide-rule because they considered calculators "cheating". It wasn't for another couple years that you could get away with using a calculator for exams. Times have thankfully changed !

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    ----- In Your Cubicle No One Can Hear You Scream...
    1. Re:I Had an HP 35 ! by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 2

      In a 1951 or 1952 magnetic audio recording (Tape? We didn't have new-fangled tape! We made do with WIRE!) Tom Lehrer sings about how to cheat with a slide-rule.

      https://ww3.haverford.edu/phys...
      (Track #11.)

      --
      Quattuor res in hoc mundo sanctae sunt: libri, liberi, libertas et liberalitas.
    2. Re:I Had an HP 35 ! by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine in college was an art student. The highest level math he had to take was Algebra. .....They let him use a TI-89 on the final exam....

  18. iPhones and Google Glass by ghoul · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One day when we are all using google glass there will be a nostalgia article about how everyone had a phone in their pockets.

    OK I kid. Google Glass is never going to takeover but some form of Augmented reality based interface will take over from a slab of glass interface.

    --
    **Life is too short to be serious**
    1. Re:iPhones and Google Glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One day when we are all using google glass there will be a nostalgia article about how everyone had a phone in their pockets.

      OK I kid. Google Glass is never going to takeover but some form of Augmented reality based interface will take over from a slab of glass interface.

      I look forward to that day, where we can all just stand there like Borg and it's socially acceptable ("working"), and we'll finally stop running into things too.

  19. This story is incomplete without... by Darkling-MHCN · · Score: 1

    80085

    1. Re:This story is incomplete without... by ContextSwitch · · Score: 1

      SHELLOIL

    2. Re:This story is incomplete without... by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      I think you meant 58008.

      --
      Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
  20. HP42S - OpenSource Free42 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The HP42S (and for some, the HP48) was the pinnacle of Engineering Calculators. It still is the fastest and most complete calculator for an EE or mechanical engineer.
    http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp42s.htm

    Free42 is the Open Source clone (not ROM emulator), but with expanded functionality.
    http://thomasokken.com/free42/

    Both are RPN. Once you go RPN, you'll never go back, but it isn't for everyone.

  21. Mostly buggy whips like sliderules today by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    of course the high school my kid attended required a TI-84 for students.

    They left out the other significant development in cheap calculators, the built-in solar power which meant no batteries at all.

    Someone else already complained about RPN and someone else mentioned 80085 so my work is done.

    1. Re:Mostly buggy whips like sliderules today by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 2

      They left out the other significant development in cheap calculators, the built-in solar power which meant no batteries at all.

      You must have missed it. From tfa, solar power was the next innovation for the calculator: Teal introduced the Photon in 1977, no batteries required or supplied!

      This is followed by an image of an advertisement for the Photon. Surprising is an error in the ad copy:

      [Because of our awesome QC process,] the defect rate is an unprecedented low of less than one out of every 200 pieces (or .05%)!

      One might expect a calculator company to avoid arithmetic errors.

    2. Re:Mostly buggy whips like sliderules today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No arithmetic error - an error with the user parsing bad sentence logic.

      Less than one out of every 200 sold (or .05%).can also be written as: x 0.005% OR x 0.05% IS TRUE. One of those is a true statement but not both therefore it is true. ;)

    3. Re:Mostly buggy whips like sliderules today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the mid-1980s, small (large business card-sized) solar calculators (with a memory and square root!) were so cheap that they were given away as meeting junk. Sometimes (for the fancy places) with the company emblem or a business card printed on the back.

  22. HP Prime is the best calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hello,

    And of course the story continues, even if calculators are now mostly used by students...

    Just yesterday the french TI planet site published their annual graphing calculator test and elected the HP prime as "best"!

    https://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21812&p=234890#p234890

    Also worthy of mention is the HP 12C. This calculator model has been sold by HP for over 35 years! THE EXACT SAME ELECTRONIC PRODUCT SOLD FOR 35 YEARS! trully incredible.

    1. Re:HP Prime is the best calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same shape ? Yes. Same product ? No.
      The classic HP 11C and all the Voyagers were made in the USA. By the time of the HP48 (early 90s) production was being shifted to Singapore or Malaysia. Today it's all crap made in China.
      The made in the USA HP Voyagers were made to last a lifetime. Literally a lifetime, and a set of batteries could power your programmable calculator for a good decade if not more. Talk about super efficiency. Not even my HP 28S lasted as long as my HP 11C and 12C. Of all the Voyagers the most bizarre of all was the HP 16C for the computer scientist. Lol, it could do change of base (2, octal, hexa) on a dime. Super geeky.

    2. Re: HP Prime is the best calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THE EXACT SAME ELECTRONIC PRODUCT SOLD FOR 35 YEARS! trully incredible.

      Um, no. A friend of mine did the reverse engineer of the mask back in the 90s, tweaking the test vectors until it was a perfect copy, so it could be fabbed in modern cmos processes.

    3. Re:HP Prime is the best calculator by dj245 · · Score: 1

      Also worthy of mention is the HP 12C. This calculator model has been sold by HP for over 35 years! THE EXACT SAME ELECTRONIC PRODUCT SOLD FOR 35 YEARS! trully incredible.

      It's amusing to me that the Amazon reviews for the HP12C are 3.3 in the Office Products category, but 4.3 in the Electronics category.

      --
      Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
  23. chicken or the egg by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In some ways, the electronic calculator market was created by TI and it's need to sell the new IC. There were not many applications, and one marketable application was the electronic calculator. In some ways it was like live Apple leveraging the microwave for the iPod.

    Like the iPod, the TI calculators were not great, but they were very easy to use. The HP calculators were and are beatiful. But ease of use won out.

    Another thing that won out was until about a decade ago all TI calculators were very limited. This made them ideal machines for tests. HP calculators could do unit analsys, and since 1990 they had algebra systems, and could even do calculus. This made them the ideal machine for technical students and professionals, but no high school would waste time teaching it because all they care about is filling out bubbles on an answer sheet.

    The interesting contemporary issue that I see is that schools are still teaching calculators when really smart phones can do everything and more, especially with apps like Wolfram Alpha. Unless you are a legacy HP user, asking kids to buy a calculator just to boosts TI profits seems very wasteful to me. This is going to change as more tests move to online format, and online resources such as Desmos take over the physical clacultor, but in the meantime the taxpayer is on the hook for millions of dollars a year per large school district just for legacy technology.

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    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  24. RPN 4 LIFE!!! by BLToday · · Score: 1

    It’s a shame that kids today don’t learn about RPN.

    1. Re:RPN 4 LIFE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can still learn Forth.

    2. Re:RPN 4 LIFE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It’s a shame that kids today don’t learn about RPN.

      RPN makes parenthesis in algebraic expressions useless. You therefore save memory space. This was a good engineering solution for those early calculators that had very very very limited memory. The HP11C if I'm not mistaken had around 300 bytes of memory for programming (and it came out in the very early 80s, so those calculators of the 1970s were even more limited). Think about that. 3-0-0 meager bytes. No wonder RPN was essential. Of course then tradition took over and RPN became a symbol of HP calculators even in a time when these pocket computers weren't limited anymore by the amount of memory.

    3. Re:RPN 4 LIFE!!! by billybob2001 · · Score: 1

      Think about that. 3-0-0 meager bytes.

      That's like 3-0-7-2-0-0 kielur bytes!

    4. Re:RPN 4 LIFE!!! by BLToday · · Score: 1

      I find myself committing much less error in RPN mode. Especially for long list of numbers with the same operand. Plus it’s faster once you’ve enter in the numbers and basically hold down the same operand until everything is done.

  25. Sharp PC ("Pocket Computer") 1402 was my ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... first computer. Protable and programmable was more important to me than gaming.
    You could say I've been doing mobile development since 1986. :-)
    It still uses its third set of batteries.

    Hows that for battery time, hmmm?

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  26. TI not 1975... at least 1972 (SR-10)... by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    Story's a bit off...
    I bought a TI SR-50 freshman year in college, 1974. I think they were introduced in 1973. Before that, the TI SR-10... 1972.

  27. Modern version: for calculator, read "phone" by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    And the history of the mobile phone will read similarly when the kids being born today reach graduation age.

    Although what they will be "reading" that history on, is anybody's guess.

    --
    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    1. Re:Modern version: for calculator, read "phone" by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many kids today actually write programs for their phone?

    2. Re:Modern version: for calculator, read "phone" by kc7cfk · · Score: 1

      You can! There are several HP (as well as other makes) emulators available in the Google app store. The HP25 app I use looks and behaves *exactly* like its physical counterpart, including programmability.

    3. Re:Modern version: for calculator, read "phone" by bigpat · · Score: 1

      How many kids today actually write programs for their phone?

      Probably more kids than ever wrote programs for their calculators.

    4. Re:Modern version: for calculator, read "phone" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it. I have programmed numerous computers and other devices, but I wouldn't know how to program my tightly locked-down cell phone. Especially to get it to run a program without putting it into some special developer mode. Programming a graphing calculator is easy, and is often even a class assignment.

  28. No Corvus 500? by Slashbob67 · · Score: 1

    I remember my Dad driving two hours to a specialty shop to buy his Corvus 500 (HP-45 competitor) in 1975. One of the few non-HP models to use RPN. Wasn't cheap - about $330 in today's dollars - but it really sped up the engineering work he took home. My brother and I killed several 9V batteries watching the LEDs flash as it made calculations :)

    1. Re:No Corvus 500? by Slashbob67 · · Score: 1

      So I looked it up and the website says the 500 used AA batteries. Coulda sworn it was 9V because I know we killed several of those on one of Dad's calculators. Have to ask him, I guess.

  29. Some things never change ... by bhaktha · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the trip down the memory lane. Here is my story-line. I did my under-grad in engineering in Bangalore, in the late 80s. Casio fx-100 was the workhorse then, solar powered calculator were just becoming popular. After that I did my MS at Arizona State, bought a fx-82g (think I bought it from Target in Mesa), graphics calculator, I still have it, not in working condition though. After spending a few years in US, moved back to my hometown, my kids who are in high school now bought a casio calculator last year ! That was a kick-ass moment for me, seeing the cycle repeat. Not sure how long my kids are going to use the calculator, they have the big smartphones, some of the examinations, including the SAT allows calculators, not smartphones.

  30. Japan and Calculators by Dhericean · · Score: 2

    An interesting NHK World documentary about Japanese calculator culture and the history of calculators in Japan. I generally watch these at speed = 1.5.

    Begin Japanology (13 June 2013) - Calculators

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    Gamma Testing - Where testing is extended to the full user community (AKA Shipping the Program)
  31. Every Link is to Twitter by nukenerd · · Score: 1

    At least the few I tried in TFA. This is a techies forum FFS. I block Facebook and Twitter.

  32. No TI-89 Fans Yet? by weilawei · · Score: 1

    I love my TI-89. I still use it daily. There's a lot to be said for multiple decades of practice on a calculator. Even the emulator of it on my phone, for when I don't have it handy, isn't the same.

    It doesn't need to be particularly fast or do huge calculations--that's what programming something else is for. But nothing beats a good calculator for immediate results.

    1. Re:No TI-89 Fans Yet? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      When I was going to college, I used mine all the time. I haven't really used it since, however.

      Fricken awesome calculator though.... I had a variant firmware on mine that made it easy to write your own programs and build them with tigcc.

    2. Re:No TI-89 Fans Yet? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      I have an 89 that saved my ass in college. Unfortunately it was a victim of an errant attempt at a firmware upgrade that went awry. Pretty sure I have an 83 that met the same fate. I never was able to resuscitate them.

      But with a couple kids approaching college age, it may be worthwhile to dust them off again to see if they can be resurrected.

  33. Stll have my first calculator. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still own my first calculator, a Hanimex 830M. It runs on a single AA battery and uses aVF display, not LEDs. The display is basically a special vacuum tube, you can see the cathodes glow a very dark red when you use it in the dark.

    The controller is a TMS1045 from TI.

    Besides some yellowing of the case, it has held up perfectly and works like new. Only downside is the power consumption, it needs about 100mA, most of it likely going to the voltage converter circuit for the VFD. So an AA doesn't last very long. The knew this when they made it, so a barrel connector for an external power supply is included. Only problem is to find one that provides 1.5V.

  34. Stopwatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The HP-45 has an undocumented stopwatch feature: press RCL then simultaneously press ENTER-[MINUS]-7

  35. On calculator races by hackertourist · · Score: 1

    In high school, we used to run calculator races (usually timing how long it took to calculate 99!). Some cheaper calculators would buzz audibly under load, or take noticeably longer when the device was cold.
    Later in college I got an HP 42 which was so much faster than everything else I got banned from competition.

  36. re:schools requiring calculators by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Agreed! We have 2 kids in high school who both need TI 83 or 84 series calculators for class, and it's kind of ridiculous how much money those things fetch, even on the used market, JUST because so many school districts have standardized on them.

    At our oldest kid's high school, they supposedly provide loaners for the kids who don't have or can't afford their own, but it's become HIGHLY discouraged because so many kids were stealing the loaners and reselling them. (Even on Amazon, when you look at reviews of used ones sold by individuals on there, you often see complaints that one arrived with a "Property of XXX School District" decal stuck to the bottom of it.")

    It's far cheaper to buy a TI 83 or 84 simulator app for a smartphone, or heck -- to even buy a cheap Android phone AND the app!

  37. Don't forget Clive Sinclair by wiretrip · · Score: 2

    Who brought out his range in 1972.

  38. EBay is a good source for slide rules. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got both of my kids (Engineering and CS Grads) slide rules for graduation presents.

  39. Epic Fail MSMASH by kenh · · Score: 1

    MSMASH, you fail to grasp the concept of "summary" - four substantial paragraphs? To meet the demands of faithful Slashdot readers, your summary needs it's own summary.

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    Ken
  40. Correction to TI timings. by drstevep · · Score: 3, Informative

    TI introduced their SR-10 calculator in 1972, not 1975. I bought one in 1973. It could do SQUARE and SQUARE ROOT in addition to the four basic functions, for around $100. A marvel!

    They released the SR-50 calculator, full trig-log capable, in 1974. I replaced my SR-10 with one of these before going off to college.

  41. Compucorp by dltaylor · · Score: 1

    In the early '70s, there was a company out in Santa Monica, called Compucorp (also an OEM for Monroe). They had a line of programmable (basically macro recording) calculators before either HP or TI, IIRC. There were a few models: scientific, bond trader, and surveyor, each with key functions appropriate for the trade. Big devices, as they used a 1/2" vacuum fluorescent display, and needed 4 "D"-size NiCads for portable power. Desktop versions had a mag card writer/reader to store the programs.

    Although the scientific was later outclassed by the TIs and HPs (something weird closed the company in the mid-70s), there was a bit of a business converting them to surveyor and bond trader models; the latter very functional and cost-effective for that business.

  42. TI calculator keys by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    Several folks have mentioned the poor response of TI calculator keys. Many years ago I had some kind of TI scientific calculator with keys that began to poop out. When I wrote TI about it, they said to send back the calculator (which was *far* past the warranty period). They replaced it with a new TI-35 Plus which I still use. Kudos to TI for excellent customer support.

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    Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
  43. TI started in 1972 not 1975 by mknewman · · Score: 1

    I had a Datamath in 1973, and a SR-57 programmable (100 steps, 10 memories) in 1975. Those were the days.

  44. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0

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  45. TI Programmer by Ken+Hall · · Score: 1

    First calculator that did octal and hex math (also binary). Got one when they came out, cost $50 in 1977. Still have it, still works, although the nicad battery died long ago. In a remarkable show of foresight, TI made the battery pack with a standard 9V battery connector, and provided a special battery door that let you replace the rechargeable battery with a normal 9V. I replaced it with a solar powered Casio that did a bunch more stuff, but the TI still works.

  46. You forgot the Bowmar Brain by branchingfactor · · Score: 1

    The Bowmar Brain (1971) was the first electronic calculator made in the USA and it was also the first inexpensive calculator sold in the USA. As a result, it was also the first widely used calculator in the USA. http://www.vintagecalculators....

    1. Re:You forgot the Bowmar Brain by CWCheese · · Score: 1
      For the little dummy in all of us

      Do you remember this marketing ditty which was the television ad for Bomar Brain? I still think of this whenever reading about history of electronic calculators.

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      Have a Day!
  47. Slide Rule side benefit by Gim+Tom · · Score: 2

    I graduated with a BS in engineering in late 1970 and entered the Air Force in 1971. In mid 1973, I took a graduate course in E.E. at a university in Ohio near where I was stationed at that time. I was very surprised, when at the first session of the class, there were only two people in the course that HAD Slide Rules. Me, with my trusty K&E log log duplex decitrig, and the professor teaching the course! Every one else taking the course had a scientific calculator.

    I think the professor noticed and may have cut me a little slack! However, after that course was over, when the TI-35's broke through the $$100 level at the BX on base I was first in line for one.

  48. Renew of calculators by lolop · · Score: 1

    People at numworks tries to renew calculators market, using OSS and open hardware. It contains an upgradable firmware with different computing softwares (on a small color LCD matrix display).

    For french market, it has an "exam" mode to be authorized (where phones will be prohibited).

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    -- Laurent Pointal
  49. Intersting times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I was working at a research facility making integrated circuits (for specific industrial and defense purposes). I remember when they first 4 function calculators started appearing in offices & they had to be locked up because they sold for ~$US100. By Christmas that year they were on shelves for $25 and had added function keys for square & square root.

    I bought my FiL one for $10 as a Christmas gift and he thought it was the greatest thing he had ever seen. He ran around the house all day looking for things to calculate. He calculated his natural gas bill & found out they had over charged him nearly a nickle in Nov. He pulled out his records (he was a paper hoarder) and found they had over charged him a few cents every month for as long as he had bills for. He called the gas company up a few days later & they simply asked how much he thought they owed him. He gave them a number & they credited his bill no questions asked.

  50. Technology moves on by sjbe · · Score: 1

    It is almost impossible to find new slide rules now

    It's almost impossible to find new buggy whips now too. Life and technology moves on.

    I still have one, which I keep as an heirloom.

    I inherited my grandfather's slide rule which is a pretty awesome one. Even has a leather holster. I have no practical use for it but it's still really cool (to me) anyway.

    1. Re:Technology moves on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's almost impossible to find new buggy whips now too. Life and technology moves on.

      Not really. You can find them easily in shops that also sell handcuffs, gags, etc :-)

    2. Re:Technology moves on by swillden · · Score: 1

      It is almost impossible to find new slide rules now

      It's almost impossible to find new buggy whips now too.

      https://www.drivingessentials....

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  51. Re:schools requiring calculators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One reason I am glad I actually held on to mine from school. I still have an 83+ and a 89 in working order that my kids will be using in a few years. I am sure the 89 will be late HS or college though.

  52. Haven't had much use for one lately by sjbe · · Score: 2

    The scientific calculator with its multi-line LCD screen will be around for a long time yet.

    I'm sure it will but frankly they ceased being of much utility to me the moment I graduated from college despite working as an engineer for the last 20+ years. Any calculations I need to do are almost always easier and faster to do with the vastly more powerful PC sitting on my desk. I still have several old TI and HP calculators but I'm sure the batteries in them died years ago and I honestly cannot remember the last time I pulled one out to use. I have an old slide rule too that doesn't get any love either. I'm well aware there are field service jobs where they are quite useful but if you have a PC in front of you they really don't save me any time except in rare corner cases. I can (and do) replicate the functionality with an app on my PC or smartphone should the need ever arise.

    I'm both an engineer and an accountant and do some of both in my day job. You would be astonished how many accountants still rely on paper tape calculators even when they have a perfectly functional and far more useful spreadsheet sitting right in front of them. First thing I did at my current job was to throw all the paper tape calculators the company had in the dumpster because those things are a terrible idea that people only use because they don't know any better.

  53. Not only compact ones by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    When I began on my job in 1973, I had a mechanical calculator that needed over 20 seconds to calculate 22.000.000.000/7.

    We had a maintenance contract for it, because it needed service at least once a year.
    That contract was more expensive than buying a dozen new electronic ones for everybody in the room but we had to wait 5 years until finally somebody in management grew some brains.

    We bought our own long before that.

    1. Re:Not only compact ones by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      20 seconds is pretty good to calculate a number with infinite decimal places.

    2. Re:Not only compact ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surveying class in JC. Had Monroe mechanical calcs - hand cranked. Set up first number. Crank once. Set up second number. Crank again. Crank clockwise to add, counter clockwise to subtract. Multiplication was simply cranking multiple times. Division was multiple subtraction. Square root was a log table, or slide rule for quick and dirty (dirty literally; used mainly for gross adjustments in field exercises). Somehow, we still got things figured out.

      Square root on a button was the top reason why people spent almost $500 for a HP35. Trig functions were the next.

  54. They cost near nothing to make by sjbe · · Score: 1

    They replaced it with a new TI-35 Plus which I still use. Kudos to TI for excellent customer support.

    You do know that they can do this because they cost TI virtually nothing to make. A few dollars at most. The profit margin on these things has to be enormous because all the tooling was fully depreciated years ago and it's not like they are dropping a lot of money on new designs. I'll agree it's good customer service but it wasn't like they really incurred a big expense in the process. I'm just astonished you actually bothered to contact them instead of just buying a new one.

    1. Re:They cost near nothing to make by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      bothered to contact them

      I really liked the old calculator. The newer one is even better. Contacting them was time well spent.

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  55. Thread is missing one important thing: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The identity of the hero who was the first to spell "BOOBS" on a calculator.

  56. HP41CX circa 1987 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my HP41CX still rules my day life

  57. I missed out by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    On the early, early calculator craze, but I started repairing these in 76.

    I was repairing Sharp calculators, desktop and handheld, back then, mostly the business machines, but I inherited the work on CS-10s and similar. These went into some engineering departments, replacing Monroematics and Divisumma 24s, which were being repaired a bench away from me still.

    When the CS-10s replaced the Monroematics, engineers went from setting up a calculation, execute, and go off for coffee and a cigarette, or two. Then of course note the results, repeat, and potentially do this for two days. Elapsed work time, 16 hours. Actual work time, 12 minutes.

    My predecessor congratulated me on missing out on that introduction. For the first few months those CS-10s suffered a lot of failures - keys, displays, and massive logic failures, caused by physical damage and liquid spills. The engineers were in full revolt. That ended when management explained that the New York office had made the transition successfully, and would not see layoffs for for a year. And yes, the office I serviced didn't see layoffs either until the backlog of work was finished, and 'automation' took early victims. My predecessor and I were so unwelcome at that office we started getting machines delivered to us, rather than travelling to do key and cord fixes. That was really never worth it, but my shop supervisor was a typewriter guy and believed in desktop service...

    I repaired QT-8 (magnificent machine), EL-8 (ditto), EL-811, even bought an EL-814 cause I loved the look... And then leapt to the desktop business printing calculators for a while, when they were worth fixing.Some old drum printers were fun to fix, but eventually they got so simple and the disc printers were just annoying. Then the prices collapsed, and they were no longer worth fixing.

    It was a fun job, I was servicing Sony dictating machines, and the BM-10 was an awful machine. That or the BM-11 mechanism flew on Apollo I think, they had the counter-revolving flywheels to solve motion problems. Then the was the same chassis as the first Walkman, TPS-L2, good thing I fixed them. Those literally fell apart when used hard. Moving through micro cassettes to the inevitable digital recorders was interesting, but the dictation business failed when PCs and word processing made it tolerable for professionals (attorneys mostly) to draft their documents themselves and send them on to secretaries to be proofed and finished.

    By then, I had migrated to Selectrics, DisplayWriters, OS/6, and electronic typewriters, and of course those gave way to word processors and then PCs so fast they piled up in closets. But those old calculators were fabulous, more reliable than should have been expected. Some weird Japanese design going on back then too, stuff that today would be lovely underneath a steampunk skin.

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  58. I got my first job to get one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I so badly wanted a 4-function calculator that I got my first job ever just to raise $149.50 to buy an Commodore US*4 calculator from Edmund Scientific. The cheapest other ones I could find were over $200 back then (1972 - I was a junior in high school), and it would take much longer at $1.20/hour to get there.

    My employer, a pharmacist, had one of those insanely expensive 4-function business-class desk calculators with 12 Nixie tube digits. It could not chain calculations involving multiplication or division, and the decimal point was a manually-operated plastic slider!

  59. Re:schools requiring calculators by BLToday · · Score: 1

    A lot of high school forbid the anything above the TI-85. I’ve seen some school limit it to TI-83 Plus or lower.

  60. Commodore calcs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way before the VIC-20...I had (still have, though it doesn't work) a Commodore PR-100 "Made in England" calculator. $75 mailorder in 1975. 45 buttons with shifted functions for most of them. 72 key presses of programming but no way to save the program so you had to enter it each time (think IMSAI with no tape reader, just front panel switches - the only program flow functions were GOTO and SKIP). The programming was mainly intended as a way to string functions together; I used it, but rarely. LED display of 12 digits carrying 14 internally - for some accounting classes I had to use the INT and FRAC keys to display the full precision. 2-3 hours of battery life. Brown, yellow, and ivory color scheme. It would probably work again if I cleaned up the battery mess inside (olde NiCds), replaced any capacitors, and put in a new NiCd (3 AA cell pack; used to be available in all Radio Shack stores because phones used them). Also need to find a 6V wall wart with a 1/8" phone plug to charge it.

    One place I worked simply gave everybody a HP-12C. I hardly used most of the functions, but before Windows and a calc on the screen (or on a phone) it was small, light, and handy. Still have it, too, someplace.

    I don't actually collect this stuff; it's just too much trouble to find a recycling place that will take it so it stays in a corner or a box someplace.

  61. Calculators lololol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha alzhy papy lolol calculators lolol

  62. Bowmar Brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember this company? I worked for them briefly in the late 80’s long after the Bowmar business was gone, but prior to another management change and name change. Until 1990, they were known as Bowmar/ALI. Still had some old ads for the Brain on the plant walls back then.

    http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/bowmar.html

  63. The Future In the Palm of My Hand? Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need to put some tape over the camera on the laptop.

  64. WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That Sinclair had an LED display. What was revolutionary was the fact it was pulsed fast enough to fool the eye/brain into seeing a fixed image, saving a huge amount of energy. The display did appear to shimmer a little bit.

  65. See-thru calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone remember the see-thru calculators teachers used on overhead projectors? I grew up in the late 80's/early 90's before all this Smart Board stuff and my teachers had a clear calculator they could use on the overhead.

    My grandpa was a scientist back in the 60's and has a ton of old analog and digital calculators. My favorite is an old HP about the size of a VHS tape.

  66. RPN Calculator by Mister+Null · · Score: 1

    Still, have and use my HP Scientific RPN Calculator. Had it since the 70's and have yet to replace the batteries.

  67. Customer service by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Contacting them was time well spent.

    Glad to hear it. Nice to see some companies actually taking a little time to care. I would have just binned the thing and bought a new one because customer service at most companies these days is so bad as to not be worth the time and aggravation. That would have been a bad assumption by me in this case.