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Wikimedia Warns EU Copyright Reform Threatens the 'Vibrant Free Web' (techcrunch.com)

The Wikimedia Foundation has sounded a stark warning against a copyright reform proposal in Europe that's due to be voted on by the European Parliament next week. From a report: In the post, also emailed to TechCrunch, Maria Sefidari Huici, chair of the Wikimedia Foundation, writes: "Next week, the European Parliament will decide how information online is shared in a vote that will significantly affect how we interact in our increasingly connected, digital world. We are in the last few moments of what could be our last opportunity to define what the Internet looks like in the future. The next wave of proposed rules under consideration by the European Parliament will either permit more innovation and growth, or stifle the vibrant free web that has allowed creativity, innovation, and collaboration to thrive. This is significant because copyright does not only affect books and music, it profoundly shapes how people communicate and create on the internet for years to come."

Backers of the reform proposals argue they will help European creatives be fairly recompensed for their work. But critics argue the proposals are not balanced and will chill the creative freedoms of web users to share and comment on content online.

62 comments

  1. AC Warns EU Brexit Threatens Pooftahs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Frosty my ladies

  2. This is not a confirmation except of GOP lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kavanaugh is a punk ass, but Raj Shah is a straight up lying faggot. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-fred-guttenberg-parkland-snub_us_5b8ecc9ee4b0162f4727a279

  3. FEAR: TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...

    Cliff's Notes, Playboy style. Easy to read for a web page.

  4. Bad stuff by lepetit · · Score: 1

    this is bad..

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    1. Re:Bad stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      this is bad..

      No - neighborhoods go bad when they contain more than 5% níggers. FACT! EVERY TIME! Even in places that never had slavery or Jim Crow.

    2. Re:Bad stuff by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      Right ... and given that the White House is now inundated with n1ggers like Trump, Sanders, and their ilk the neighborhood is a shithole.

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    3. Re:Bad stuff by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The creative internet well see EU censorship then create routes around EU gov controls.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    4. Re:Bad stuff by BlueStrat · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The creative internet well see EU censorship then create routes around EU gov controls.

      The "creative internet" is not hardware and networks, it's the people building and using those resources. The "creative internet" can be prosecuted, imprisoned, or simply taken out back and shot in the head by TPTB. When the government is more powerful than those it governs and has no fear of them, bad things always happen eventually.

      "Left" and "Right" is not what we should be talking about, but "Up" and "Down", where "Up" is more authoritarian, bigger government, and "Down" is smaller, less intrusive and micro-managing government.

      With a smaller, less powerful government, "Left" and "Right" do not matter as much to the population and does not impact their liberty nearly as dramatically. It also means political Parties have far less power and there would be far less government corruption, as why pay someone who doesn't have the power to help you or harm you?

      Get Down and get free!

      Strat

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    5. Re:Bad stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #GetDownGetFree

      I like it!

  5. That's a doozy by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks like the law requires every blog owner to implement an omniscient version of Youtube's much hated ContentID system to insure that nothing uploaded bears any similarity to any past work. It would basically be impossible to run a site like Slashdot under that requirement. The false positive rate would undoubtedly be incredible. Big media cartels were tired of having to do their job and want everybody else to do it for them.

    If this goes through about the only solution for every comment section will be to just geoblock the EU until some gigantic content clearinghouse is created. Even then such a service would be too expensive for most message boards so only players like Facebook and Google will be able to run blogs.

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    I read the internet for the articles.
    1. Re:That's a doozy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't have problem with it. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. have not made the world a better place. They want to profit from the content uploaded to their platform but don't want to take responsibility for it.

      Bullshit.

      Fuck 'em all. If its on your servers, you're responsible.

    2. Re:That's a doozy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IP Owners don't like the phrase "vibrant free web." They hate it. They want precisely the opposite, as they believe this is how they will maximize their profits.

    3. Re:That's a doozy by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, current proposed IP laws in a range of countries favour large, dominant corporations at the expense of newcomers and hobbyists. The corporations will be fine without these laws but we'll all be much worse off with them. This is all the work of the UN's WIPO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., which has been steadily encroaching on public domain and fair-use works since the 1970s. They want corporations to own everything that's ours, i.e. our culture and knowledge, and get rich from renting it all back to us.

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    4. Re:That's a doozy by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 2

      I don't have problem with it. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. have not made the world a better place. They want to profit from the content uploaded to their platform but don't want to take responsibility for it.

      Bullshit.

      Fuck 'em all. If its on your servers, you're responsible.

      On this point, I agree. Facebook et al. are making money out of copyright infringement and should pay the copyright holders. However, what the proposed laws would do to you and me and startups and hobbyists would be suffocating. That is, if you enjoy engaging in and sharing derivative ideas and works under fair use and like that there are public domain works that everyone can use however they like.

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    5. Re:That's a doozy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IP Owners don't like the phrase "vibrant free web." They hate it.

      Parent AC makes an important point: media cartels do not WANT a free web. They want "television 2.0". The whole thing was an oversight that happened because the internet started in the military, and then academia, and stayed there for decades before it became a public phenomena. By that point the genie had partially left the bottle.

      They want nothing more than to put that genie back IN the bottle. And the clueless public can be led by the nose to go right along, since they don't think about their choices very much. Make it shiny, and they'll beg for it, no matter what it is.

      Unfortunately, due to other verbose AC spam in this topic, your point may languish down at score=0, so I hope someone punts you up to at least 2.

    6. Re:That's a doozy by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Dont have a site in the EU. Dont invest in the EU. Let people enjoy really great internet content "outside" the EU.

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    7. Re:That's a doozy by PPH · · Score: 1

      It would basically be impossible to run a site like Slashdot under that requirement.

      I was thinking more along the lines of Stackoverflow. There goes our software industry.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    8. Re:That's a doozy by zabbey · · Score: 2

      So I break the law by uploading infringing content and facebook has to pay? Why don't they just target the copyright infringers? Oh, it's because they don't have any money. The point of these types of laws isn't to enforce or punish lawbreakers, it's to extort money. If I stab someone at starbucks, should the manager go to jail? I am, after all, committing a crime on their property.

    9. Re:That's a doozy by jandrese · · Score: 1

      It would apply to any site that allows users to post content. Most of the web at this point. Only the likes of Facebook or Google could hope to survive with user content. Otherwise allowing user content is suicide.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
  6. and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe. But they may need to go USA only and block EU

    1. Re:and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe. But they may need to go USA only and block EU

      He just fucking said that. What's your native language, Chinese?

    2. Re:and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The first amendment does not allow you to infringe copy rights ...

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    3. Re:and the 1st amendment will make usa sites safe by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA which enable what he was talking about, mostly.

      OTOH, the First Amendment is the likely inspiration of "fair use" (which is enshrined in the Copyright Act itself, so I don't think we can be sure).

  7. 113f here 4th coast nny new tropics tourist trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    copy that.. cease fire stand down.. truth+mercy=justice..

  8. and fox can just copy an old video and then ban it by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2
  9. License for use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wikimedia needs to state it's position on fair use, particularly as it applies to reference material. And then state that use of Wikipedia constitutes agreement with said principles. Or suffer stiff penalties.

  10. This stops what REALLY threatens us... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Linux/BSD!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency/merge)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. script trackers/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware downloads/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk

  11. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Linux model = faster/more efficient

    APK

    P.S.=> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://www.google.comsearch?s...

  12. may end game reviews and Let's play's other then by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    may end game reviews and Let's play's other then ones picked by the game dev's.

    Just think I have this POS game that was rushed out and now I can use the law to take down the bad reviews.

  13. This stops what REALLY threatens us... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux/BSD h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less.

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Linux/BSD!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency/merge)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. script trackers/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware downloads/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk

  14. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Linux model = faster/more efficient

    APK

    P.S.=> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://www.google.comsearch?s...

  15. The real threat is inside proven by history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Mark Zuckerberg stole the Winklevoss twins' code for Fakebook (figures as he is a thieving low jew too).

    Maria Abramovic satanist spirit cooker pal of Hillary Clinton the Voodoo queen is a jew https://www.google.com/search?...

    Like Hillary Clinton's mentor Saul Alinsky author of rules for radicals book dedicated to Lucifer

    "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer Â- so I wasnÂ't lying Â- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much aliveÂ" Harold Rosenthal http://www.thetruthseeker.co.u...

    Jewish rabbi openly admits to satan worship use white children's blood they kill for passover bread, infiltrating and subverting the catholic church, creating the Jesuit order https://www.youtube.com/watch?... and https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Barbara Spectre, a jew, tells everyone it's jews orchestrating the muslim migrant problem in Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ/ . No migrant raping of women in Poland. Tons in Sweden. Do the math. Use common-sense. This is to get muslims and other goyim/gentiles to wipe one another out as incompatible cultures that will clash and always have.

    Rabbi A. Finkelstein ADMITS their greatest enemies are ARABS and WHITES (blacks too) whom they wish to kill one another in a 'theater of war' which they find AMUSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS DID 9/11 (perpetrated by the Mossad & Bebe Netanyahu of ISRAEL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... profiting by it (and that 3,000 jews employed there did not show up for work that day knowing about it beforehand).

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS are going to destroy the U.S. Dollar and dumping it for other world currencies and gold to destroy the United States.

    George Soros who funds groups to create division in the USA?? A jew. One who sold his own jew people into death for the nazis.

    Zucker now FIRED @ CNN is another frying publicly for lying about "russians" and John Bonifield a producer @ CNN said it is bs. Van Jones did also.

    Bernie Madoff (who made off with everyone's money, especially construction union pensions) shows the thieving nature of the JUDEN!

    Eric Schmidt had to step down @ JEWgle (a jew).

    Adam Schiff (gosh s

  16. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The internet is not all that useful in our decreasingly connected lives.
    Also, it's run mostly by the gays.

  17. Fear the INFILTRATING JUDEN!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Mark Zuckerberg stole the Winklevoss twins' code for Fakebook (figures as he is a thieving low jew too).

    Maria Abramovic satanist spirit cooker pal of Hillary Clinton the Voodoo queen is a jew https://www.google.com/search?...

    Like Hillary Clinton's mentor Saul Alinsky author of rules for radicals book dedicated to Lucifer

    "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer Â- so I wasnÂ't lying Â- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much aliveÂ" Harold Rosenthal http://www.thetruthseeker.co.u...

    Jewish rabbi openly admits to satan worship use white children's blood they kill for passover bread, infiltrating and subverting the catholic church, creating the Jesuit order https://www.youtube.com/watch?... and https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Barbara Spectre, a jew, tells everyone it's jews orchestrating the muslim migrant problem in Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ/ . No migrant raping of women in Poland. Tons in Sweden. Do the math. Use common-sense. This is to get muslims and other goyim/gentiles to wipe one another out as incompatible cultures that will clash and always have.

    Rabbi A. Finkelstein ADMITS their greatest enemies are ARABS and WHITES (blacks too) whom they wish to kill one another in a 'theater of war' which they find AMUSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS DID 9/11 (perpetrated by the Mossad & Bebe Netanyahu of ISRAEL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... profiting by it (and that 3,000 jews employed there did not show up for work that day knowing about it beforehand).

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS are going to destroy the U.S. Dollar and dumping it for other world currencies and gold to destroy the United States.

    George Soros who funds groups to create division in the USA?? A jew. One who sold his own jew people into death for the nazis.

    Zucker now FIRED @ CNN is another frying publicly for lying about "russians" and John Bonifield a producer @ CNN said it is bs. Van Jones did also.

    Bernie Madoff (who made off with everyone's money, especially construction union pensions) shows the thieving nature of the JUDEN!

    Eric Schmidt had to step down @ JEWgle (a jew).

    Adam Schiff (gosh s

  18. Import problem, provide the solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Bring in an Islamic underclass, deal with the side effects of this is, terrorism and a right wing backlash with an internet crackdown and surveillance state.

  19. Fear the INFILTRATING JUDEN!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Mark Zuckerberg stole the Winklevoss twins' code for Fakebook (figures as he is a thieving low jew too).

    Maria Abramovic satanist spirit cooker pal of Hillary Clinton the Voodoo queen is a jew https://www.google.com/search?...

    Like Hillary Clinton's mentor Saul Alinsky author of rules for radicals book dedicated to Lucifer

    "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer Â- so I wasnÂ't lying Â- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much aliveÂ" Harold Rosenthal http://www.thetruthseeker.co.u...

    Jewish rabbi openly admits to satan worship use white children's blood they kill for passover bread, infiltrating and subverting the catholic church, creating the Jesuit order https://www.youtube.com/watch?... and https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Barbara Spectre, a jew, tells everyone it's jews orchestrating the muslim migrant problem in Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ/ . No migrant raping of women in Poland. Tons in Sweden. Do the math. Use common-sense. This is to get muslims and other goyim/gentiles to wipe one another out as incompatible cultures that will clash and always have.

    Rabbi A. Finkelstein ADMITS their greatest enemies are ARABS and WHITES (blacks too) whom they wish to kill one another in a 'theater of war' which they find AMUSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS DID 9/11 (perpetrated by the Mossad & Bebe Netanyahu of ISRAEL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... profiting by it (and that 3,000 jews employed there did not show up for work that day knowing about it beforehand).

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS are going to destroy the U.S. Dollar and dumping it for other world currencies and gold to destroy the United States.

    George Soros who funds groups to create division in the USA?? A jew. One who sold his own jew people into death for the nazis.

    Zucker now FIRED @ CNN is another frying publicly for lying about "russians" and John Bonifield a producer @ CNN said it is bs. Van Jones did also.

    Bernie Madoff (who made off with everyone's money, especially construction union pensions) shows the thieving nature of the JUDEN!

    Eric Schmidt had to step down @ JEWgle (a jew).

    Adam Schiff (gosh s

  20. So, effectively EU-exit by DCFusor · · Score: 2

    From normal commerce. We'll see how that plays out. Sure, demanding more money always results in more money, no one ever turns away and finds another fungible source for the same stuff, right? - unless you're exceptional and unique. Don't they lambaste Americans who think that kinda stuff?
    Maybe the Brits are leaving a sinking ship just in time...

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    Why guess when you can know? Measure!
    1. Re:So, effectively EU-exit by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      No nation on Earth can afford to ignore a federation of 500 million wealthy consumers. You want to do business in the EU, you play by the EU's rules.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    2. Re:So, effectively EU-exit by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      From normal commerce.

      Hardly. The EU market is large enough that people will bend over backwards to accommodate even stupid decisions. But just like all the stupid laws passed in America people will of course complain about it as they rightfully should.

      Don't they lambaste Americans who think that kinda stuff?

      America doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity. In fact one would say Americans are part of this big ball we call the world. Europe and others call out America for their stupid decision all the time, and I would argue that I fully expect reply in kind. Lambaste away, the Europeans not only deserve it but actually need to hear it too.

      Maybe the Brits are leaving a sinking ship just in time...

      That kind of short sighted thinking got them into their current position. Which could be more accurately described as a British ship rapidly taking on water while part of the EU flotilla after aiming their canons carefully down into their own hull and pulling the string.

      As it stands the UK has already suffered worse economic loss compared to the rest of the EU than even the worst case predictions for actually leaving as modeled by both sides prior to the referendum. And they haven't even left yet.

    3. Re:So, effectively EU-exit by DCFusor · · Score: 1
      Um. Greece, Italy, Spain....wealthy? The people who owe them money that will never be paid back but pretend otherwise? The failed socialist societies now having to re-figure since their wealth was based on resources that are dropping in price or running out? Ummm...Ok, let's watch and see what actually happens. The whole developed world is a debt bomb, and how that gets resolved when the world decides to address that - separately or together - will matter more I think. I see homeless, migrants who won't assimilate, wealthy MIC, high Gini coefficients wherever I look, and a tendency to turn inward as though it was all the fault of "those other guys" - and have heard lots of noise about the EU being quite the failed experiment. The exit meme isn't just about the UK.

      The obvious reason for that is the decoupling between the money sources and sinks, the running of big deficits is not enforced. So those who think they are wealthy now have a day of reckoning coming where they find out their wealth is a bad loan -aaaannnnd it's gone. Sound familiar?
      If the EU wasn't free-riding on the UK why are they acting so petty about them leaving?
      When you got money, you got lots of friends..when things get tough you find out who the real ones are. Maybe it's hard to see in a mirror.
      I'm not calling anyone or entity blameless in this.
      Just look how this scheme has worked out for the **IAA, or for the guys who wanted google to pay for linking their stuff and sending them customers, and so on. This scheme won't fly, just like they didn't, and for the same reason.

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      Why guess when you can know? Measure!
  21. Really? Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would basically be impossible to run a site like Slashdot under that requirement.

    Besides lame opinions in the form of text, what potentially infringing content does Slashdot host?

  22. Tabled is different in US/UK/EU speak by gavron · · Score: 1

    She says the proposal is to be tabled.
    US Speak - to table something is to take it off the table and not discuss it until later.
    UK Speak - to table something is to put it on the table to discuss it now (yes, 180 opposite of US).
    EU Speak - nobody knows

    The US, for now, still has 47 U.S.C. 230, even as FOSTA/SESTA/Republicans gut it daily. Perhaps The EU will reconsider joining free discourse.

    E

  23. Vibrant free web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since I got an adblocker, my web is much more free of all the vibrant. And I likes it that way.

  24. europe by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

    Tech companies should just block europe and let them have their own little walled version of the Internet. Who wants to deal with all this stuff they keep coming up with?

  25. Wikimedia doesn't care about a vibrant free web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They want a censored, walled-off web.

    They just want to be the censors.

  26. Spammer Alexander Peter Kowlies lies some more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spamming asshole Alexander Peter Kowalski spams and lies some more.
    Like how he claims the Chinese copied him but can't produce any evidence.
    How about when he states that hosts does port filtering but again can't backup his statement which was shown to be false.
    There is also his list of "experts" who support him but it turns out they don't say what he is claiming.
    This also ignores his out of context quotes he uses to lie by omission.
    The problem with APK is that his entire reputation is built upon the lie he told years ago that hosts is an effective security solution. It has been exposed numerous times as being a lie and when exposed APK fails to argue logically and instead will try to deflect criticism, change the subject, move the goal posts, return to a previously disproven statement, demand you prove you did better than his file concatenator, or just call people names. Expect that he will used these tactics to try to deflect from these criticisms. He will continue to lie by stating that he won or "dusted" you while failing to refute anything you said, will never provide real evidence, and generally try to dodge the issue.

    Face it APK is one of the most detested individuals here for good reason. When ever his poor behavior, awful logic, over statements, and horrendous writing are called out he has a fit and has done so for years across the internet. He is a spammer, and is an abusive insecure little man who is washed up and never amounted to anything. Until he produces actual verifiable facts supporting his case nothing he says should be taken seriously.

  27. The basic issue not spoken ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... is that publicly-consumed IP has lost its value.

    An essential component of demand is the friction encountered when making an acquisition.

    In the days of radio, TV, theaters, albums, and live tours, the consumers were far removed from the content.

    Nowadays, the Internet provides a well-lubricated "all you can eat," instant buffet of gratification.

    --

    I'm 72 years old.

    I remember Coke being a special, occasional treat.

    The go-to beverages for parents were cheaper drinks like tea and Kool Aid.

    Same with candy.

    Halloween was a bonanza because that was the one time of year when it was available by the gobs.

    Nowadays, ice boxes are chock full of Cokes and every house has candy galore.

    --

    IP has, with few exceptions, become valueless to the consumer and that's the side of the equation that drives the revenue structure.

    When IP is digitized, it enters the Public Domain by default. ~ CaptainDork

    --
    It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    1. Re:The basic issue not spoken ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get my family freindly Goat C shirt! ~ CaptainStork

    2. Re:The basic issue not spoken ... by cre1mer · · Score: -1

      I was wondering where the creimertards were picking up "72 year old" — and they call me ederly! Sad. Fucking sad.

    3. Re:The basic issue not spoken ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I think it's disingenuous for us to have two logins, so quit it.

      No, you quit it.

      No, you.

      I'm telling Momma.

      --
      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    4. Re:The basic issue not spoken ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the contrary, I plan to be able to retired in 2020. I told you creimertards how to do it but no, you were to smart to listen!

      I find AmazonTM the gretest thing since sliced bread and helps taking care of my health at retirement with the Amazon long tail revenue streams!

      All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. You can even make video of yourself going to pick up AmazonTM parcel at the convenience store and post it on your youtube channel for more redundant revenue streams.

      They also have a wide supply, the best of latte and clif/power bars at the best cost, espicially if you make a friend buy them for you with your own affiliate link!

      Also, I still use my iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete and I use it to make my videos on youtube. As a Sprint very special customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always give me a new iPhone for free if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.

      I use PhotoShop daily!

      I have a hearing loss in one ear, so my audio will always be suspect. I use a Zoom H2 audio recorder with a pop filter 12" away from my mouth, Audacity to clean up and normalize the audio, and sync the audio to the video and apply a "voice enhancement" eq to the audio in the video editor.

      My PC has an eight-core processor and a Nvidia 1050 Ti 4GB video card. A minute of 1080p video renedered on the processor takes a minute. A minute of 1080p video rendered on the Nvidia card takes 10 seconds. I don't think an iPad has the same performance of my PC for rendering videos longer than a short clip.

      I can't imagine using Photoshop without a keyboard and mouse, or not being able to access my files from my file server. Video rendering on the iPad will probably suck donkey balls.

      Blackmagic also charges high prices for their gear as Apple does. Need an HDMI to USB3 capture device? Blackmagic is $300. Any generic company is $50.

      I take public transit. A local bus take me down the street to pick up the express bus, the express bus drops me off in Palo Alto, and a local bus take me down the street to my job. An hour each way. Driving through Palo Alto during rush hour is insane. Since I work in government I.T., I start work at 7:00AM.

      Bonus: get some silver coins, view recommendations on my special Youtube channel dedicated to the topic! They constitute a fail-safe insurance strategy for your retirement!
      --
      Demogorgon (Stranger Things) Live Unveil Panel Montage - ToyXpo 2018

    5. Re:The basic issue not spoken ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      ... you were to smart ...

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  28. This stops what REALLY threatens us... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux/BSD h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less...

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Linux/BSD!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency/merge)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. script trackers/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware downloads/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk

  29. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Linux model = faster/more efficient

    APK

    P.S.=> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://www.google.comsearch?s...

  30. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #1/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & 2 questions you won't answer: 1.) Do hosts stop threats served by hostname (the way threats are done most) by blocking them? Yes. 2.) Do hosts speed you up 2 ways in adblocking (preventing more infection/tracking/slowdown) & via hardcoded favorite sites resolving faster + protecting vs. dns down or redirect poisoned? Yes.

    My hosts program's the only 1 that does the latter @ TOP of hosts cached in RAM (for best performance) & only 1 of its kind on Linux/BSD in easy to use flexible configuration GUI form.

    (I also did that latter part LONG before the Chinese & 1st http://theregister.co.uk/2017/... )

    APK

    P.S.-> Have you done work that's that effective doing more for less faster in kernelmode speed (cpu priority) w/ less complexity for exploit + excess overheads vs. solutions KNOWN to be security-issue riddled (like addons (souled-out to NOT work by default OR easily detected & blocked that are BYPASSABLE & EXPLOITABLE), DNS & Antivirus)? No... apk

  31. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #2/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "classic Windows hosts trick to block the Coinhive or Crypto-Loot domains" - https://www.bleepingcomputer.comnews/security/a-new-player-joins-coinhive-on-the-browser-cryptojacking-scene/ - BLEEPING COMPUTER

    SANS ("A related approach to the DNS issue is to create a hosts file on each system that sends requests for spyware to some place else. Both Ramu and an anonymous reader have suggested this" hosts by myself & RAMU right @ START of "malware explosion" mid 2005 on) https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di...

    Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/

    ZD NET http://www.zdnet.comarticle/how-to-use-a-hosts-file-to-improve-your-internet-experience/ "Hosts files really shine by letting you block ads, spyware sites, malware sites, & tracking sites"

    Steve Gibson on hosts https://www.grc.comsn/sn-045.htm/

    Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.comcolumnists/491/

    APK

  32. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #3/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's working: Neville... it's working!" See subject & results from THIS month alone https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... that's only recently while I've been on Linux (few months now only) & 100's of times vs. MANY other botnets/malwares etc. in the past circa 2006-early 2018 while I was on Windows: There's BULLSHIT & doing nothing pessimsm & then? There's CONCRETE VISIBLE UNDENIABLE REALITY (see those links as proof).

    P.S.=> 3 things show I do it right:

    1st = User praise my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    2nd "ATTACKS" I GET (from UNIDENTIFIABLE ac as Elon Musk got https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... )

    3rd BEING IMITATED = "Imitation = sincerest form of flattery" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... JUST LIKE CHINA DID ME TOO... apk

  33. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #4/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).

    Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW)

    Thor SCHMUCK?

    Ask him WHY his false accusation of an old ware of mine was 1st taken down to NO threat & CA sold off the SHITTY antivir he sold (as a paid pawn of theirs) & they are GONE, done. dead... lol!

    Lookup "CA Accounting Scandal" on Google - scumbags & THEIR BIRDS OF A FEATHER just go down vs. me everytime!

    APK

    P.S.=> TONS of Security experts KNOW blacklists work (no questions asked) & 3 things show I do it right:

    1st = User praise my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (so much for ME being "detested" but I'm not here to win a popularity contest - just here to WIN so everyone does).

    2nd "ATTACKS" I GET (from UNIDENTIFIABLE ac as Elon Musk got https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... )

    3rd BEING IMITATED = "Imitation = sincerest form of flattery" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... JUST LIKE CHINA DID ME TOO... apk

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  35. Retard APK sure says a lot of nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Retarded Alexander Peter Kowalski sure says a lot of nothing and repeats himself a lot in doing so. As we can see the defective known as APK is unable to refute anything that was stated about him or his work. Instead it repeats things that have been shown to be false hoping that it might not be false this time. Unfortunately its false statements have been proven to be false and thus will always remain so. Moving on it attempts to deflect by changing the subject and demanding that others prove they can write better code than a slow bloated file aggregrator of others people's work. Additionally the defective decides to also repeat some more disproved statements it made. Mentally defective APK knows he lost and lost badly which is why it has decided to spam it's gibberish across Slashdot in places where it doesn't belong while showing his true colors as the antisemitic racist he actually is. This will likely continue for several days likely descending into threats of violence.

  36. Says JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie", lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Says JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous worm HIDING from me as he STALKS me - your JEALOUS is showing, "Lil' Jowie", lol!

    * :)

    (What's it LIKE being a SKULKING cowardly little WORM like you?)

    APK

    P.S.=> Seriously - it has to totally SUCK to be a "not man" like you... apk

  37. Re:Really? Slashdot? by jandrese · · Score: 1

    Look at the provision. Slashdot would be liable for everything its users post. Someone puts up a link to a mp3 file they would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of euros in damages. Someone posts lyrics to a modern song and Slashdot will be party to the lawsuit. They have to become content police and personally examine every post before letting it be shown on the site. That's several full time jobs worth of effort.

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    I read the internet for the articles.