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Google Has Notified At Least Dozens of People Targeted by Secret FBI Investigation (vice.com)

At least dozens of people have received an email from Google informing them that the internet giant responded to a request from the FBI demanding the release of user data, news outlet Motherboard reported Tuesday, citing several people who claimed to have received the email. The email did not specify whether Google released the requested data to the FBI. From the report: The unusual notice appears to be related to the case of Colton Grubbs, one of the creators of LuminosityLink, a $40 remote access tool (or RAT), that was marketed to hack and control computers remotely. Grubs pleaded guilty last year to creating and distributing the hacking tool to hundreds of people. Several people on Reddit, Twitter, and on HackForums, a popular forum where criminals and cybersecurity enthusiast discuss and sometimes share hacking tools, reported receiving the email. [...] The email included a legal process number. When Motherboard searched for it within PACER, the US government's database for court cases documents, it showed that it was part of a case that's still under seal.

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  1. "Smart move?" by tsa · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Is this aing in avoiding arrest, or obstructing an investigation?

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    1. Re:"Smart move?" by Bobrick · · Score: 2

      If only there was an article that could answer that question, maybe accessible through an hyperlink of some sorts...

    2. Re:"Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I applaud Google for this.

      Subpoenas are supposed to be served. Getting around this by serving the holder rather than the owner is an abuse.

    3. Re:"Smart move?" by tsa · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm just keeping up the tradition here! :)

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    4. Re: "Smart move?" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Remember when Nixon spied on a campaign?

      Nixon didn't get busted for "spying on a campaign". He got busted for hiring a bunch of actual criminals to burglarize the DNC headquarters.

      Sound familiar? Stealing stuff from the DNC in order to help a Republican candidate?

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    5. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to the Dark Side be lured. Heart follow and Light feel, yes?

      And Leia soon forgotten!

    6. Re: "Smart move?" by guruevi · · Score: 2

      Remember when Obama did. Rules have changed since Nixon.

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    7. Re:"Smart move?" by Nutria · · Score: 1, Funny

      As if Vice would know the truth if it smacked the in the face with a tuna.

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    8. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just gave yourself away boris.

    9. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Obama!!1

    10. Re: "Smart move?" by whoever57 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I don't think Nixon was actually "busted". There was no impeachment, no criminal case.

      So arguing over what he was "busted for" would seem to be moot.

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    11. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Remember when Nixon spied on a campaign?

      Nixon didn't get busted for "spying on a campaign". He got busted for hiring a bunch of actual criminals to burglarize the DNC headquarters.

      Sound familiar? Stealing stuff from the DNC in order to help a Republican candidate?

      This is just flat wrong. He got in trouble for trying to cover it up after he had been made aware that it took place. You make it sound like he was in on it from the get go.

    12. Re: "Smart move?" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      This is just flat wrong. He got in trouble for trying to cover it up after he had been made aware that it took place.

      As with the infamous "Trump Tower Meeting", it's simply naive to believe the principle beneficiary, on whose behalf the entire enterprise was undertaken, was not "in on it". Especially with a famous micromanager like Nixon (or Trump).

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    13. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You make it sound like he was in on it from the get go."

      Of course he fucking was.

    14. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do understand that even if your dumb wishful thinking theories about what happened in that meeting are true, which they are not, it doesn't matter one bit, right? It is not illegal to pay for intelligence on your opponent. See: Hillary Clinton and the Christopher Steele fabrication which her campaign totally paid for. That was something that *actually* had an effect on the election and of course Trump's presidency btw, and while Hillary does not deserve jail time for it because what's not illegal for Trump is also not illegal for her, the people who knowingly relied on a fabrication to get a fraudulent FISA warrant do in fact deserve jail time in a very big way. Frankly using the investigative and spying apparatus of the federal government on anybody in a knowingly fraudulent manner ought to qualify as treason with all the requisite punishments for that--and yes, I mean execution after trial and conviction.

      Also, Trump was a private citizen at the time of this event and therefore nothing that happened there has anything to do with his time in office or the laws that apply to the conduct of an administration. It's all irrelevant bullshit just like the whole Stormy Daniels bought and paid for "news". Again, assume that's all true. Two consenting adults doing things is not illegal. A private citizen who holds no office getting a nondisclosure agreement from someone in exchange for money is, now get ready for this because I really want you to think hard here, NOT ILLEGAL. If the alleged affair happened while Trump was President that might be another matter, but I thought Bill Clinton should not have been impeached for a similar thing and apparently so did the voters because doing so cost the Republicans massively in the next election.

      Don't get me wrong--things that are not illegal may still be politically relevant. Voters may choose not to vote for Trump again on the basis of this stuff. That's not going to happen though. People who despise Trump will never be swayed by anything up to and including a (so far mythical) recording of everyone on Hillary's side admitting to everything I just said. Similarly, people who support Trump may have done so for a variety of reasons at election time but now they support him solidly as a gigantic FU to the opposition.

    15. Re: "Smart move?" by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Those "bunch of actual criminals" were actual CIA operatives. I thought all of them had moved on from the CIA at the time of the burglary, but Eugenio Martinez was still getting paid.

      James W. McCord Jr., GS-15 (top pay) in the CIA. Served 2 months in prison.[97]
      Virgilio Gonzalez, the locksmith that got them busted. Cuban-born activist. Original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[92][96] Served 13 months in prison.[97]
      Bernard Barker, undercover agent of the FBI and CIA. Original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[92][96] Served 18 months in prison.[99]
      Eugenio Martínez, a "paid asset" of the CIA at the time of the break in. Original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[92][96] Served 15 months in prison.[100]
      Frank Sturgis, A spy for the marines, Navy, and Army. Original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[92][96] Served 10 months in prison.[100]

      Their boss, E. Howard Hunt, was an officer in the CIA. Original sentence of up to 35 years in prison.[92][96] Served 33 months in prison.[98]
      He and G. Gordon Liddy, FBI agent, ran nixon's "plumbers" who fixed leaks in the party. Original sentence of up to 20 years in prison.[92][96] Served 4.5 years in federal prison.[97] I consider him the only one to have served any real time behind bars. He's still alive btw. Retired from the talk-show circuit in 2012.

      There were also 42 other government officials found guilty. Mostly for the coverup and lying to the investigation. Get your ass ready for another such draining of the swamp.

    16. Re: "Smart move?" by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Nixon was BUSTED as all bloody get-out. They had him dead to rights and were about to nail him as the blatent crook that he most certainly was. But he stepped down before it happened because he knew he was busted. If you ever even remotely THINK that "he wasn't technically busted" then you have absolutely ZERO sense for politics.

      So arguing over what he was "busted for" would seem to be moot.

      No, the details are actually quite pertinent as it comes to precedence for current affairs.

    17. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didnt say 'got busted for'..... nice try.

      So again.... remember when nixon spied on a campaign?

    18. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you anon

    19. Re: "Smart move?" by HeckRuler · · Score: 2

      You and everyone else need to read up on The White House Plumbers.

    20. Re: "Smart move?" by sphealey · · Score: 1

      "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

    21. Re: "Smart move?" by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Not technically true. Only if you are an applicant plowing through the Justice Department the hard way.

      The president is under no such constraint if he does not wish to be, nor can Congress add conditions to the exercise of a direct presidential power.

      Nixon (and draft dodgers under Carter) are such examples.

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    22. Re: "Smart move?" by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between covering up said crime under investigation, and some tangential crime, such as Clinton lying under oath about sex "with that woman".

      It was just as well he wasn't removed from office for such a thing, as opposed to the reason for the investigation, Whitewater.

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    23. Re: "Smart move?" by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      It may not be illegal, but happily taking Russian hacking intel is a horrid black eye for any politician, and deservedly so.

      Ironically, paying for it might indeed implicate him in the crime as hacking is illegal. Taking it free can arguably be freedom of speech, as per a journalist organization. But woe be to he who pays for the hacking...or the leak.

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    24. Re: "Smart move?" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Also, Trump was a private citizen at the time of this event and therefore nothing that happened there has anything to do with his time in office or the laws that apply to the conduct of an administration.

      No, it was plenty illegal.

      Federal law prohibits a foreign national from giving anything of value to a campaign engaged in a U.S. election. Further, it’s also a crime to solicit a foreign national to give anything of value to a campaign, or even to "knowingly provide substantial assistance" in receiving something of value. Third, lying about the whole thing to the FBI is also a felony. Fourth, if the "oppo research" was stolen property, that's also a possible felony. Finally, the meeting is evidence of an ongoing criminal conspiracy to defraud the US government and the American people.

      If Trump wasn't president, hie'd have already been indicted. So would Don Jr. So would the other people who were present at that meeting --- oh wait, they've already been indicted. And the convictions are mounting.

      People who buy the whole line, "I didn't do it, and anyway everyone else does it and even if I did do it, it's not illegal and even if it's illegal I'm the president," will wake up one day and be embarrassed that they tried to excuse away this degenerate president.

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    25. Re: "Smart move?" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      Those "bunch of actual criminals" were actual CIA operatives.

      Those things go together.

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    26. Re: "Smart move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump Jr. gets contacted by some lawyer (who turns out to be Russian)...
      Lawyer: "I has dirt Hillary, you vaunt meet up?"
      Trump Jr: "Uh, okay. Sure."
      Meet up happens. There is no dirt, meeting turns out to be a worthless waste of time...

      Meanwhile, Hillary pays British firm to generate dirt against Trump using questionable sources from Russia. Out comes the Steele Dossier! OMG, look! Trump likes getting peed on by Russian hookers!

      Good luck prosecuting Trump with this federal law of yours. If anyone is going down on that one, Hillary is in deeper trouble me thinks.

    27. Re: "Smart move?" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Trump Jr. gets contacted by some lawyer (who turns out to be Russian)...
      Lawyer: "I has dirt Hillary, you vaunt meet up?"
      Trump Jr: "Uh, okay. Sure."
      Meet up happens. There is no dirt, meeting turns out to be a worthless waste of time...

      Just a casual meetup that includes Trump's son, his son-in-law, and his campaign chairman (now in prison). And the president knows nothing about it. Sure, that's the ticket.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com...

      Meanwhile, Hillary pays British firm to generate dirt against Trump using questionable sources from Russia.

      First, it was the conservative Washington Free Beacon that got the ball rolling on the Trump dossier. Steele produced the dossier for Fusion GPS who was later hired by the Clinton campaign. They never had to deal with any Russians. It was all arms-length transactions, which makes all the difference in the world. Finally, everything in the Trump dossier has been verified except for the Russian hookers golden showers party, and given Trump's known degenerate behavior, is almost certainly true.

      If anyone is going down on that one, Hillary is in deeper trouble me thinks.

      I realize that's the Q fantasy. Every day that passes it gets farther out of your reach, and you have to work harder to maintain the fantasy.

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  2. Re:Deep State Warnings by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Woodward's bool: TRUE or FALSE?

  3. I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Hey, if they can't be bothered to have a FISA hearing in order to spy on a Presidential campaign, what chance do us peons have against them?

    Seriously - ask yourself that.

    If the FBI can spy on Trump's campaign without following the proper FISA procedures to spy on Carter Page, we are not a free people.

    When will you Trump haters realize that's a lot bigger than bringing Trump down?

    Maybe you'll hate the out-of-control secret police when they turn on you?

  4. At leasee dozens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't "at least" require a little more definition than that. How about "at lease a whole bunch"?

  5. Was the tool itself malicious? by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Or software that could technically be used for good / neutral purposes? There's plenty of "Remote Access Tool" products such as TeamViewer and GoToAssist; TV and others are occasionally used in security breaches and social-engineering scams by hackers. Don't see any managers of those companies going to jail for "distributing a remote access tool/tool that can be used for hacking"

    1. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by ramriot · · Score: 2

      And even if the tool is evil incarnate, that does not mean possession of it is a crime. Many security researches possess much worse items for the purpose of reverse engineering the hacks so that systems can be patched against the exploits contained. If the FBI perseus litigation against such people I can see no way it would not blow up in their face.

    2. Re: Was the tool itself malicious? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      In many cases these people plead guilty to gain immunity while avoiding a trial in exchange for cooperating with the feds. It's easier to get guilty verdicts on criminals if their cohorts (even if they did technically nothing wrong) pleaded guilty in exchange for immunity. This is exactly what happened in the Manafort case. Mueller got a bunch of people to plead guilty on technicalities in exchange for immunity and then a jury trial on unrelated issues is primed to vote guilty.

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    3. Re: Was the tool itself malicious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Not technicalities, FELONIES. Stop watching Faux News.

    4. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      I think that depending on how it was marketed, buying one can constitute probable cause.

    5. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by dissy · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or software that could technically be used for good / neutral purposes?

      That's what seems especially strange here.

      From the original case, the author was originally targeted for "producing hacking tools", but that later got dropped because he only advertised it to be used for lawful purposes on your own hardware.

      The FBI then came back showing he used it himself for unlawful purposes and with charges to match.

      At the time that seemed fair enough, but now going after other buyers and users of the tool, one has to wonder how trumped up that claim might have been...

    6. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably not. Reminds me of back orifice and netbus, great tools.

    7. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by Jahoda · · Score: 1

      Or software that could technically be used for good / neutral purposes? There's plenty of "Remote Access Tool" products such as TeamViewer and GoToAssist;

      JFC dude. It's right in the fricking summary.

      > The unusual notice appears to be related to the case of Colton Grubbs, one of the creators of LuminosityLink, a $40 remote access tool (or RAT), that was marketed to hack and control computers remotely. Grubs pleaded guilty last year to creating and distributing the hacking tool to hundreds of people.

    8. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by Jahoda · · Score: 2

      And even if the tool is evil incarnate, that does not mean possession of it is a crime.

      Tell you what. Carry around a set of lock picks with you and see what happens if you get noticed by the police. Be sure to have this quote printed out for them.

    9. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by ramriot · · Score: 1

      I do, never had a problem, but if there was a question I can show them my locksmith certification.

    10. Re:Was the tool itself malicious? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Tell you what. Carry around a set of lock picks with you and see what happens if you get noticed by the police.

      I think the police aren't going to care unless you engage in suspicious activity such as going to a neighborhood where they are on patrol, or where the police are called to report a suspicious person, and you are seen wandering around with apparently no obvious reason for being there.

      Even then you are likely to be free to go if you show ID and provide a remotely plausible reason for being there: they would be more concerned about drugs -- without probable cause to search, lockpicks or other things you might have on you are immaterial, unless you are seen physically holding tools.

      Furthermore, you can legally carry around lockpicks all day long if you want, unless you've already been convicted in the past --- general possession of lockpicks and even use of them (On your own locks or locks you have permission to open) is legal in most states.
      With exception of a few places; having them is only illegal if you possess lockpicks with an actual intent to commit a crime such as burglary.

  6. Probably part of the SCO-IBM case by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It will never end.

    1. Re:Probably part of the SCO-IBM case by hotelpraga · · Score: 1

      Wow.

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  7. Re:I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will you Trump haters realize that's a lot bigger than bringing Trump down?

    Maybe you'll hate the out-of-control secret police when they turn on you?

    We ARE the "secret police" (FBI, CIA, NSA) you stupid Nazi RWNJ Russian collusionist traitor, all you Rethuglican crapservatives, are going down, and you're going down HARD!! The new Democratic Socialist US won't tolerate your kind any more.

    What a lovely tone of tolerance. Glad your progressive agenda includes loving all backgrounds and opinions.

  8. I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, if the FBI wasn't researching users of hacking tools, then they'd be wasting your tax dollars, eh?

    I write crypto and have to email nsa.gov & BIS every time I update my tool. It's a violation of export regulations not to. That puts you on the radar... if you do this kind of thing, just know you're being surveiled. If you publish tools for hacking and they include capabilities not disclosed to the proper authorities, it deserves investigation. The goal is so that if the feds come across encrypted traffic or some exploit they have a library to compare against so they can begin cracking it -- perhaps even contact the authors of said software to enlist their help.

    Imagine if it had been some Nazi Cyber-Terrorist that hacked the US power grid instead of the more negotiable Chinese government? Imagine such a hack had used an unknown remote access toolkit, and that a subsequent great recession COULD have been prevented if the toolkit had been known about in advance. Would you rather NSA / FBI / etc. do their job? Or instead sit back with hands tied so you could blame them for "incompetence" after some great cyber-terror core infrastructure attack?

    To be perfectly clear, we live in a realm ruled by Hydraulic Despotism. This means cities and states are unsustainable without external power, food, etc. resource. Only ignorant plebs dispute the fact that this control of resource supply and artificial scarcity is why we don't live in barbarism and constant war. However this means the system we live in is incredibly vulnerable. A city can't rebel because you can cut off their fuel, power, food, etc. and they'll fall into zombie-apocalypse mode. However, this means that our system is fragile, and you folks don't know the Herculean efforts carried out in secret to ensure some home-grown lone-wolf rogue Nazi Cyber Terrorist doesn't destroy your world.

    TL;DR: The Eye of Sauron is upon you when you don a ring of power, even if it's just a clever way to get CPU ring zero...

    1. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Would you rather NSA / FBI / etc. do their job? Or instead sit back with hands tied so you could blame them for "incompetence"

      You already know the sad, sad answer to that question...

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    2. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      The Nazis were defeated in world war 2. The backwoods hicks you antifa folks call nazis aren't the threat. You are.

    3. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I write crypto and have to email nsa.gov & BIS every time I update my tool. It's a violation of export regulations not to.

      Which is why I 'import' all of my crypto apps (download from foreign servers). I was surprised to learn that there was still any viable crypto R&D going on in the USA.

    4. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by HeckRuler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's actually a well reasoned stance. Up to the 2nd to last paragraph. Then it veers off into pointless philosophy. Rebelling city-states? Really? Get off it dude. Anyway, yes, our society is fragile and the ease of wounding it is WAY easier than protecting it. Stick to that part and you're golden.

      But yes, I want the FBI to do their job. I really DO want them to catch the bad guys. All my bitching and moaning about warrantless wiretapping, mass surveillance, parallel construction, bullshit about "metadata", kangaroo FISA courts, and practically anything the CIA does is rooted in preserving the system of checks and balances that give us rights as citizens. If the cops go get a real warrant, I'm perfectly fine with them pulling out the stops and violating the fuck out of Capone's and Osama's privacy. The CIA shouldn't be operating within US borders and I'm not so sure anything they do within other nation's legal systems are all that "legal" and they've got a bad track-record of doing "good". So I'm up in the air on whether I want the CIA doing their job. It's fundamentally hard to know. And that all by itself is grounds to be skeptic.

      This story, if anything, is a sign that the system works. They had a gag on Google. Then it was removed. Then Google informed people. Because while the cops enjoy operating in secret while investigating people, there's a perfectly legit use-case for purchasing this stuff. Least we want any network engineering to be thought-crime. And so off came the gag. That probably cost Google some coin just getting the lawyers to walk through all that paperwork. Good on them. And good on the courts for actually letting the gag come off. And good on the FBI for (presumably) getting an warrant and gag in the first place as they ought to do. So while it might all sound scary... the system works. And we should celebrate that.

    5. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The backwoods hicks are still a problem. I have no problem if the US Gub'ment declares them to be enemies of the state and brings them up on war crimes. Or just kills them "in the field".

      Then they should do the same thing to Antifa, since they are clearly communists.

      We are Americans. We kill Nazis. We kill communists. Any questions?

    6. Re:I'll Play Devil's Court Appointed Attourney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You won't get an argument from me on that. Where is senator McCarthy when you need him?

  9. Re:I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ironically, it's the dems (not you boris) who are most likely to have russian collaborator traitors in their ranks. Or have you forgotten which head of state used to be a communist

  10. one sec... by MJhasHIV · · Score: 0

    ok whew.

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  12. Trump is a retard, in his own words : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/trump-woodward-phone-call/index.html

    I picked out the most fascinating parts of the call. They're below.

    1. "It's really too bad, because nobody told me about it, and I would've loved to have spoken to you. You know I'm very open to you. I think you've always been fair."

    Trump is right -- Woodward is fair -- but the President saying this on tape(!) makes what undoubtedly will be the White House's attempt to discredit Woodward that much tougher. Also, it becomes clear time and time again in this phone call that people -- including White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham -- did talk to Trump (or his scheduling team) about sitting down with Woodward, even if the President says he didn't know it.

    2. "Madeleine is the key. She's the secret. Because she's the person...."
    Trump is talking about Madeleine Westerhout, his personal assistant. And her being "the key" is no longer much of a secret.

    3. "Well, a lot of them are afraid to come and talk, or -- you know, they are busy. I'm busy. But I don't mind talking to you. I would've spoken to you."
    The President of the United States is acknowledging that many of his aides are afraid of him! That. Is. Nuts. Also, Trump reiterates here that he would have been more than happy to talk to Woodward.

    4. "And I certainly don't mind talking to you, and I wish I could've spoken to you. But nobody called my office. I mean, you went through, I guess, different people...."
    Put a pin in this. We'll come back to it.

    5. "Who were the senators? No, they never called me about it. ... Senator Graham actually mentioned it quickly in one meeting."
    In between Trump saying no senator mentioned it and him admitting Graham mentioned it comes this line from Woodward: "Senator Graham said he had talked to you about talking to me. Now, is that not true?" What happened is this: Trump made a sweeping statement. Woodward called him on it with a fact. Trump acknowledged his previous statement (seconds before) was inaccurate. Good times. (Also, see No. 4.)

    6. "So I have another bad book coming out. Big deal."
    This can be read either as false bravado (Trump is trying to convince Woodward that nothing can really hurt him with his supporters) or actual bravado (Trump is convinced that nothing can really hurt him with his supporters). I'm honestly not sure which it is.

    7. "I mean, you do know I'm doing a great job for the country. You do know that NATO now is going to pay billions and billions of dollars more, as an example, than anybody thought possible, that other presidents were unable to get more?"

    This line from Trump comes DIRECTLY after Woodward describes the way in which he used sources and described meeting in the White House. It's almost as if Trump turned on some sort of autopilot function. Because in the context of the conversation, the decision to tout your work on NATO makes a total of 0% sense.

    8. "Well, other than Lindsey [Graham], who did quickly mention it, nobody mentioned it."
    Um, no. Scroll down. (Also, see No. 4.)

    9. "Nobody told me about it. Well, let me ask her. Why don't you speak to Kellyanne. Ask her. She never told me about it."
    Trump hands the phone to Conway at this point. (I told you this was an amazing phone call!) Conway, with Trump listening, says this: "I put in the request. But you know, they -- it was rejected. I can only take it so far. I guess I can bring it right to the president next time." Then she adds: "I try to follow all the protocols, or else I'm accused of being somebody who doesn't follow protocol." Conway's shade here at the team who handles Trump interview requests is truly epic. Look, I asked. They said no. Talk to them.

    10. "If you would've called directly -- a lot of people are afraid ... Raj, I hardly have ... I don't speak to Raj."
    Raj Shah is the principal deputy communications director at the White House. He's running point for

    1. Re: Trump is a retard, in his own words : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The main point is that Trump's own staff did all they could to stop him speaking to Woodward.

      They're spending half their time shielding Trump from outsiders and the other half protecting the USA and the wider world from Trump.

  13. Re:I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When will you Trump haters realize that's a lot bigger than bringing Trump down?

    Maybe you'll hate the out-of-control secret police when they turn on you?

    First they came for the pussy grabbers and I did not speak out—

              Because I was not a misogynist.

    So you're not a Democrat Bill Clinton, Al Franken, Keith Ellison, or Harvey Weinstein?

  14. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Linux model = faster/more efficient

    APK

    P.S.=> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://www.google.comsearch?s...

  15. Remote Access Tool by PPH · · Score: 2

    For sale? How could this be a problem when this is actually built into Windows?*

    *As anyone who has ever received a bogus tech support call and then dutifully executed the commands dictated to them by 'Microsoft support'. And then had their system pwned.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  16. Shucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I didn't get a notice. What's a guy got to do to get targeted around here!?!

    1. Re:Shucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Defend trump on any point no matter how insignificant when he is correct and you will feel the flak. .

    2. Re:Shucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD UP!!!

    3. Re:Shucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's worse on Ars. They will shoot your dog, rape your wife, burn your house and kick you in the balls for good measure.

  17. Re:I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks anon.

    When Nunes asked the FISC for hearign transcripts, Collier responded as if there had been hearings. She's in on it too.

  18. Steele worked for Russian oligarchs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > It may not be illegal, but happily taking Russian hacking intel is a horrid black eye for any politician, and deservedly so.

    So happily taking the Steele dossier, written while he was working for Russian oligarch Oleg, is also a horrid black eye, right?

  19. Hyperbole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the article starts with a phrase as vague as

    At least dozens of people

    you know it's just bullshit hyperbole.

  20. Re:I bet the FBI skipped warrants in this case, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ironically, it's the dems (not you boris) who are most likely to have russian collaborator traitors in their ranks. Or have you forgotten which head of state used to be a communist

    Don't forget the Chinese! They've been *deep* into the Democratic Party for a long, long time! These days I'd say it's very likely more Democratic power-holders are in bed with the Chinese than the Russians.

    It's a very traitorous & dangerous game of betrayal they play, and we are the ones being played and placed in harm's way.

  21. APK notifies Joogle on their ads/tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: It's days are numbered vs. APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux/BSD h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less..

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Linux/BSD!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency/merge)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. script trackers/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware downloads/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk

  22. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Linux model = faster/more efficient

    APK

    P.S.=> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://www.google.comsearch?s...

  23. Antisemite APK notifies everyone about his lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Antisemite Alexander Peter Kowalskinotifies everyone about his lies.
    Like how he claims the Chinese copied him but can't produce any evidence.
    How about when he states that hosts does port filtering but again can't backup his statement which was shown to be false.
    There is also his list of "experts" who support him but it turns out they don't say what he is claiming.
    This also ignores his out of context quotes he uses to lie by omission.
    The problem with APK is that his entire reputation is built upon the lie he told years ago that hosts is an effective security solution. It has been exposed numerous times as being a lie and when exposed APK fails to argue logically and instead will try to deflect criticism, change the subject, move the goal posts, return to a previously disproven statement, demand you prove you did better than his file concatenator, or just call people names. Expect that he will used these tactics to try to deflect from these criticisms. He will continue to lie by stating that he won or "dusted" you while failing to refute anything you said, will never provide real evidence, and generally try to dodge the issue.

    Face it APK is one of the most detested individuals here for good reason. When ever his poor behavior, awful logic, over statements, and horrendous writing are called out he has a fit and has done so for years across the internet. He is a spammer, and is an abusive insecure little man who is washed up and never amounted to anything. Until he produces actual verifiable facts supporting his case nothing he says should be taken seriously.

  24. Just claim your work Alexander Peter Kowalski by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just claim your work Alexander Peter Kowalski. We get it APK you don't like the Jews and want everyone else to believe your un-medicated conspiracies.

  25. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #1/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & 2 questions you won't answer: 1.) Do hosts stop threats served by hostname (the way threats are done most) by blocking them? Yes. 2.) Do hosts speed you up 2 ways in adblocking (preventing more infection/tracking/slowdown) & via hardcoded favorite sites resolving faster + protecting vs. dns down or redirect poisoned? Yes.

    My hosts program's the only 1 that does the latter @ TOP of hosts cached in RAM (for best performance) & only 1 of its kind on Linux/BSD in easy to use flexible configuration GUI form.

    (I also did that latter part LONG before the Chinese & 1st http://theregister.co.uk/2017/... )

    APK

    P.S.-> Have you done work that's that effective doing more for less faster in kernelmode speed (cpu priority) w/ less complexity for exploit + excess overheads vs. solutions KNOWN to be security-issue riddled (like addons (souled-out to NOT work by default OR easily detected & blocked that are BYPASSABLE & EXPLOITABLE), DNS & Antivirus)? No... apk

  26. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #2/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "classic Windows hosts trick to block the Coinhive or Crypto-Loot domains" - https://www.bleepingcomputer.comnews/security/a-new-player-joins-coinhive-on-the-browser-cryptojacking-scene/ - BLEEPING COMPUTER

    SANS ("A related approach to the DNS issue is to create a hosts file on each system that sends requests for spyware to some place else. Both Ramu and an anonymous reader have suggested this" hosts by myself & RAMU right @ START of "malware explosion" mid 2005 on) https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di...

    Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/

    ZD NET http://www.zdnet.comarticle/how-to-use-a-hosts-file-to-improve-your-internet-experience/ "Hosts files really shine by letting you block ads, spyware sites, malware sites, & tracking sites"

    Steve Gibson on hosts https://www.grc.comsn/sn-045.htm/

    Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.comcolumnists/491/

    APK

  27. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #3/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's working: Neville... it's working!" See subject & results from THIS month alone https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... that's only recently while I've been on Linux (few months now only) & 100's of times vs. MANY other botnets/malwares etc. in the past circa 2006-early 2018 while I was on Windows: There's BULLSHIT & doing nothing pessimsm & then? There's CONCRETE VISIBLE UNDENIABLE REALITY (see those links as proof).

    P.S.=> 3 things show I do it right:

    1st = User praise my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    2nd "ATTACKS" I GET (from UNIDENTIFIABLE ac as Elon Musk got https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... )

    3rd BEING IMITATED = "Imitation = sincerest form of flattery" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... JUST LIKE CHINA DID ME TOO... apk

  28. As to YOUR lies? LOL: #4/4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).

    Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW)

    Thor SCHMUCK?

    Ask him WHY his false accusation of an old ware of mine was 1st taken down to NO threat & CA sold off the SHITTY antivir he sold (as a paid pawn of theirs) & they are GONE, done. dead... lol!

    Lookup "CA Accounting Scandal" on Google - scumbags & THEIR BIRDS OF A FEATHER just go down vs. me everytime!

    APK

    P.S.=> TONS of Security experts KNOW blacklists work (no questions asked) & 3 things show I do it right:

    1st = User praise my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (so much for ME being "detested" but I'm not here to win a popularity contest - just here to WIN so everyone does).

    2nd "ATTACKS" I GET (from UNIDENTIFIABLE ac as Elon Musk got https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... )

    3rd BEING IMITATED = "Imitation = sincerest form of flattery" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... JUST LIKE CHINA DID ME TOO... apk

  29. Get all your lies out there APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mentally defective Alexander Peter Kowalski wants to make sure everyone can see all of his lies. Notice that the retard APK fails to refute anything that is said about him or his work. However he keeps posting the exact same claims that have been shown to be lies many times over. Unless it wants to highlight evidence of its lies and disability this is not how to actually win but instead how one shows they lost because they have nothing. Additionally the defective one continues to attempt to deflect away from his unending failure as it demands others answer strawman questions or prove that they can code better than his slow bloated file concatenator. Finally notice that APK is now posting new threads to discussions that are 2 days old because he is attempting to hide so his lies aren't pointed out and so that he has a lower chance of being down modded. At this point retarded APK will typically switch to name calling or making threats of violence because he understands that he lost but is unwilling to admit it to himself. These are all clear signs that it lacks proper mental development and is suffering from several severe mental illnesses. Mentally defective APK knows he lost and lost badly which is why it has decided to spam it's gibberish across Slashdot in places where it doesn't belong while showing his true colors as the antisemitic racist he actually is.

    1. Re:Get all your lies out there APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every lie you told apk simply put up verifiable evidence to the contrary showing you are a liar that is psychotically jealous of him.

  30. Some entity needs to keep an eye... by martinfb · · Score: 1

    Some entity needs to keep an eye on the corrupt, oligarchic government.
    And also, at the same time, on the idiots that put them in office!

    --


    Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
  31. APK is to afraid to defend himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently mentally defective Alexander Peter Kowalski is now too afraid to defend himself and is posting unsigned support. He provided no verifiable evidence to support anything he said previously but instead kept on repeating his previously debunked statements. No new evidence was provided yet he continues to repeat his tired old lies hoping that the rules of the universe have changed. Now he posts unsigned making more wild claims that he can't backup claiming that people are jealous of his debilitating mental disorders. What we can learn from this is that APK is a loser who now has to pretend that people support him. Maybe in true loser fashion he can point out some of his great accomplishments like having a dumb idea of his rejected by some other project, or instead post one of his antisemitic screeds.

    Folks this what happens when mental illness goes untreated for extended periods of time. Here was have an individual who is so detached from reality suffering from several mental disorders who remains untreated. As such he has become one of the most despised people on Slashdot yet is allowed to make a fool of themselves and lose any dignity they had.

    1. Re:APK is to afraid to defend himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apk shut you up beneath each of his posts. It's you that hides behind unidentifiable anonymous posts projecting you are retarded.

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