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Uber Will Turn Your Smartphone Into An Automatic Crash Detector (theverge.com)

Uber is introducing a new safety feature called "Ride Check" that will use GPS, accelerometer, gyroscope, and other sensors inside a smartphone to detect whether there has been a vehicle crash. The Verge reports: In the event of a crash, the Uber app will automatically send a notification to a rider's phone to answer a series of questions. If they verify that there has been an accident, the rider will be prompted to call 911. Uber's team of safety operators may also reach out to ensure the rider is safe when the feature is triggered. The feature doesn't require any new permissions because it is linked to the driver's smartphone, rather than the riders. Drivers have the Uber app on more frequently than riders, who typically keep the app on in the background during trips.

Ride Check isn't just for crashes, though. The feature is also triggered if the vehicle stops for a prolonged or unusual period of time. Riders will receive a notification asking them if everything is alright, and based on their response, the app will present a series of options, including a call to 911. The ride-hail company also released a number of other features, including voice commands and an insurance hub for Uber drivers, new ways to mask addresses and phone numbers between riders and drivers, and two-factor authentication to protect a rider's account from malicious hacking.

57 comments

  1. Trust Uber to run sensors in your pocket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the worst that could happen from this trustworthy vendor?

    1. Re:Trust Uber to run sensors in your pocket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If you think you might die, can you please make sure you have paid fir the ride. Thank you."

  2. "911, what's you're emergency?" by thegreatbob · · Score: 2

    "Um sorry guys, I had my phone on the dash, and it slid into the A pillar when I took a hard turn..."

    I wonder what regulatory skirting/ignoring lies in wait for this.

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    1. Re:"911, what's you're emergency?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's okay, we noticed you're still going 35 MPH so unless you are getting plowed by a train we think you're probably fine.

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    1. Re:Gonna post entirely in iPhone emojis by thegreatbob · · Score: 0

      I'm going to allow it. Mainly because I get to imagine a crazed iThing user running around screaming à Y ' © à Y à Y à à à Y ' f à Y O E à Y O E à Y O E

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    2. Re: Gonna post entirely in iPhone emojis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  4. No they won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This company isn't getting anywhere near my phone.

  5. What would really be handy: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A rape detector.

    1. Re:What would really be handy: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps they add the rape and robbery detection as premium service, which costs more.

  6. and thats why i dumped android/ios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get out of my phone!!

  7. So the drivers have to take there eyes off the roa by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    So the drivers have to take there eyes off the road to deal with the app now? Some may just run long reds and race trains to get out of it.

  8. Modern Annoyances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So when you're attempting to dial 911 in a dazed state, you'll be interrupted with an accept phone call prompt instead. An AI will ask you some questions, then you'll be put on hold, then someone else will ask you a bunch of questions, then you'll be told to dial 911 and they hang up. Confused since you thought you had dialed 911, you pass out and die before anyone notifies emergency services.

    Are people really that dumb that they need someone else to tell them to dial 911? Uber doesn't do it for you, they just tell you to do it. Nice way to skip out on some of the liability of making false emergency calls and a nice way to get sued for not recommending 911 when someone was injured.

    1. Re:Modern Annoyances by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

      Apps CAN'T call 911 by themselves - the OS does not allow that. Apps CAN open the phone app and insert the emergency number in there, so the user only has to tap the "call" button.

  9. This is uber's crash detection squad..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes... because stuff.. and things.. and nonsense.

    Seriously? They will ask for a set of answers? I'm sure the potentially unconscious rider will wake up in time to be grilled by the audit-bot AI assigned to that event/ number. "If they verify there has been an accident." Really? What brain-cell-strapped idiot came up with that mathematical equation?

    If accellerometer .and. gyroscope = $bad
    then
    ask for a response from the rider
    elif $noresponse
    ask for the response from the rider
    elif $noresponse
    ask for the response from the rider
    elif (you get the picture)
    fi

    From their definition:

    In the event of a crash, the Uber app will automatically send a notification to a rider's phone to answer a series of questions. If they verify that there has been an accident, the rider will be prompted to call 911. Uber's team of safety operators may also reach out to ensure the rider is safe when the feature is triggered.

    1. Re:This is uber's crash detection squad..... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      If this is really what it does, it's absolutely useless.

      "Hello, you seem to have been in a crash. Perhaps you should call 911?"

      "Yeah, thanks, Captain Obvious."

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    2. Re: This is uber's crash detection squad..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just more of the SJW takeover at Uber. They think everyone needs babying absolutely all the time, especially women and minorities because God forbid they actually want to think for themselves and don't need control freak authoritarians to watch over them and tell them what to do. Also, they have to look like we give a crap about you while not doing anything actually useful.

      Mental note to shake my phone randomly when riding in an Uber now.

    3. Re: This is uber's crash detection squad..... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I think you're right, but I have to ask, if they think women and minorities need extra babying because they're women and minorities, isn't that fundamentally sexist/racist?

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  10. *BEEP BOOP* Hello user, are you dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *BEEP BOOP* Hello user, are you dead?

    [no response]

    *BEEP BOOP* Your lack of response has been interpreted as "no". Have a nice day.

  11. Bad option by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    "If they verify that there has been an accident, the rider will be prompted to call 911"

    And if they're unconscious, they're fscked.

  12. swatting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure 911 will really enjoy getting all those automated robocalls for no reason.

    Bernie Sanders should add Uber to his corporate cash to play bill, for the cost of every 911 call

  13. No by raind · · Score: 1

    They wont.

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  14. wait what? by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That (using a smartphone for crash detection) has been around for years. I personally use "cradar", an app that texts my coordinates to my daughter's phone if I dump my bike. I have 30 seconds after it's gone off to prevent it from sending the text if the crash isn't bad or I've just dropped my phone.

    Why daughter's phone? Because she actually pays attention to her phone. If I sent it to my wife's phone, I could be leaking on the side of the road for hours before she notices.

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    1. Re: wait what? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Just curious, have you tested it? Not in a "Boy calls wolf" kind of way, but still.
      Would make her feel guilty for the rest of her life if it didn't work.
      A test will also make a do things more calm and that will safe time when you dropped your phone.

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    2. Re: wait what? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Pointless. Phones are not anywhere near reliable or accurate enough to be used as a real emergency responder like this without some backup methods. You want crash detection with signaling, you buy a fucking dedicated beacon with satellite comms. I dont go out biking without actually communicating to another human my ride path and i inform them they are now my "Alert" contact for the duration of my ride. Even that has failed occasionally. Alert status is a hell of a lot more work than simply installing an app on your phone, its a process with many steps.

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    3. Re: wait what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not pointless. There's a concept called "good enough". Just because something isn't 100% reliable doesn't mean it's not an improvement over not using it.

    4. Re: wait what? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      We ran a test while I was still deciding whether to use it, and so that she could see what the alert looked like, and it seemed to work as advertised.

      Side note, latitude and logitude coordinates mean nothing to her, but 911 services know how to use them. I discovered this when I hit a deer on a remote road. I had cell service but the truck's GPS didn't know where I was on a map -- it would only give me lat/long coordinates, which the 911 operator knew how to use.

      I realize this is using the phone's sensors in a way not intended by the manufacturer, but in absence of a purpose-built crash sensor (which would be an interesting selling point should such a feature be available and affordable) it's better than nothing.

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  15. Am I alright? by ckatko · · Score: 2

    "The feature is also triggered if the vehicle stops for a prolonged or unusual period of time. Riders will receive a notification asking them if everything is alright, and based on their response, the app will present a series of options, including a call to 911. "

    1) Congrats, you made a "detect hookers" app.

    2) If I can reach my phone and interact with it, I'm not having a !@#%'ing emergency. Hell, half the phones on the market have an emergency button combination you can turn on.

    3) Considering Uber is so evil Microsoft is playing catch up, I really doubt these features have anything to do with drivers. They'll straight up hire rapists. So the real question is, what actual benefit are they trying to get from this?

    1. Re:Am I alright? by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"Considering Uber is so evil Microsoft is playing catch up, So the real question is, what actual benefit are they trying to get from this?"

      Simple, perhaps it is active all the time- so now they can track you more, know what you are doing in your OWN vehicle, sell that info to insurance companies, have it waiting for subpoenas, and other great stuff.

    2. Re:Am I alright? by ToTheStars · · Score: 1

      They got in trouble for slurping up location data before, but this ostensible purpose gives them a veneer of legitimacy when they go for round 2.

    3. Re:Am I alright? by Moskit · · Score: 1

      Probably sell driving-related information to insurance companies.

    4. Re:Am I alright? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The feature is also triggered if the vehicle stops for a prolonged or unusual period of time. Riders will receive a notification asking them if everything is alright, and based on their response, the app will present a series of options, including a call to 911. "

      1) Congrats, you made a "detect hookers" app.

      I think it's more of a "detect the driver raping his fare" app...

  16. Vigorously shake before enjoying ? by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    Does this imply I can't vigorously shake my phone without getting an embarrassing response, or that I will just have to switch hands ?

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  17. But if nobody responds..... by kenwd0elq · · Score: 1

    If the crash detection pops up a prompt for the user to answer some questions, and nobody does, is it smart enough to call 911 anyway? Because somebody responding to on-screen questions means that SOMEBODY was at least conscious enough to respond.

  18. stoped by train =options, including a call to 911. by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Help 911 this slow train is pulling my star rating down.

  19. Because? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are too stupid to call 911 on their own if there has been an accident?

    Seriously, WTF? Answer a series of questions and then prompt the rider to call 911??

  20. Just when you thought it was safe to compute again by jabberw0k · · Score: 1

    Clippy's cousin rears his ugly head. Honestly, why would anyone with the vaguest understanding of technology want to be anywhere near one of those allegedly "smart" so-called "telephones" much less pay for the privilege of being constantly spied on?

  21. Latency by julian67 · · Score: 1

    I see dead people.

  22. But what about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a feature for when the Uber driver murders you? At least to let them know where your shallow grave has been dug?

  23. Big Brother (as in UBER) is watching you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no escape. You are part of the Borg.
    Enjoy life Citizen and use Uber every day or it is Room 101 for you.

  24. I know how that meeting went. by houghi · · Score: 1

    During the meeting: so what can we do to get even more data from the sheeple?

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  25. This is frightening... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    ...to test if your smartphone is properly configured as a crash detector, they will instruct one of their self-driving cars to smash into your car!

  26. [riders] typically keep app in the background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aha. Never used Uber (and hope I never have to!), but I'd just delete the app every time before boarding the car. And rinse the phone with bleach thereafter.

    And, oh, pay in cash.

    Predators.

  27. The reason behind it. by houghi · · Score: 1

    Everybody is saying that this is a bad idea and it is. While the people ate Uber are assholes, they are not idiots, so WHY did they do that?

    It will mean they get less customers, as they will cut of a percentage of them (no matter how small). That means less money.

    So why would they do that? They are not a company that does things to be nice just because they are nice people. So who are they sucking up to and why?

    The only reason I can think of is that they are sucking up to the drivers and the reason why is because they need more of them. I can imagine that thye are at a point where people who ran Uber start to realize that thye can not make a living of it, while maintaining the car. And having a few bad customers will be enough to tip over to driving less or not at all.

    The people who are willing to start driving have a way to find experience of other (ex-)drivers and are able to calculate how much they will make.

    So to get new drivers and keep old drivers, it is nice to say "You will only get the best customers. We ban the rest." This will stretch the time that people bare driving with that (lower than) minimal wage for a bit. At least till the next service.

    On the other hand I could be completely wrong and the Uber managers are complete bafoons that do "Management by 8-ball".

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  28. Re:Just when you thought it was safe to compute ag by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    Having the sum total of mankind's knowledge in your pocket is a heady drug.

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  29. Did you idiots actually read the article??? by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    This will be active on THE DRIVERS phone. Not the passengers. Geez people, go with the ScareCrow and ask for a brain.

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  30. Justification for continual 24/7 monitoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Justification for continual 24/7 monitoring

  31. Crash or lawsuit detection? by kimgkimg · · Score: 1

    Just sayin...

  32. Going to crash? There's an app for that by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    Are you going to crash? The app will sound a klaxon similar to Star Trek: TOS bridge klaxon; the app is called CRAPP for crash app.

    The next point release will have warnings e.g. Collision imminent -- first warning, followed by Collision imminent in 3 seconds, followed by
    Two...One

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  33. Re:Just when you thought it was safe to compute ag by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I immediately thought of Clippy also. Cheery and wanting to help, while being absolutely useless and annoying.

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  34. Re:Just when you thought it was safe to compute ag by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Having the sum total of mankind's knowledge in your pocket is a heady drug.

    True, although access is sometimes a problem, and sorting out all of mankind's knowledge from all of mankind's excrement can be quite a chore.

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  35. Cyberpunk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like someone bought platium medical insurance

  36. Guess the first question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My bet is "Are you still alive?"

  37. Uber crash detector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My sonâ(TM)s Uber driver caused this crash. He did not survive. No direct word from Uber yet. https://globalnews.ca/news/4422507/nicholas-cameron-toronto-uber-training/