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One Year After the Massive Equifax Data Breach, Pretty Much Nothing Has Changed (axios.com)

The Equifax data breach was supposed to change everything about cybersecurity regulation on Capitol Hill. A year ago, Equifax announced that 145.5 million U.S. adults had their social security numbers stolen in an easily preventable breach. If any data breach was going to be able to shock Washington into enacting sweeping privacy reforms, this should have been it. Axios: But that didn't happen: "The initial interest that was implied by congressional actions didn't pan out," said Michelle Richardson, director of the Privacy and Data Project at the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT). What was supposed to happen: After the first of several hearings involving Equifax, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), chair of the Judiciary Committee, said it was "long past time" for federal standards for how companies like Equifax secure data.

Data security wasn't the only anticipated reform. Congress appeared poised to create a national breach notification law governing how and how quickly companies must notify anybody whose personal information is stolen in a breach. Currently, to the chagrin of national retailers, those laws vary state to state. Several investigations were supposed to penalize the credit bureau for lax cybersecurity, including failing to patch the vulnerability hackers exploited despite government warnings. What actually happened: The bills petered out. Mick Mulvaney took over the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in November and halted the bureau's investigation.

120 comments

  1. Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'd say we should appeal to Donald Trump to change this, but he kind of has his hands full.

    1. Re: Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's got big hands, though. Really big, the biggest. Very nice, very big hands. So he'll fix the cyber problem. It really won't be that hard. We've got some great people working on that. Really great, the best.

    2. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty pissed off that Meuller is investigating Trump and not Equifax.

      But my opinion doesn't matter according to the treasonous #resistance

    3. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He has more than what is in his small hands to worry about.

    4. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're hilarious. Yes, the man who appointed the man who halted the investigation is certainly motivated to do something about it...

    5. Re:Change it! by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      I realize that this is just a troll attempt, but even if we had a president that everyone could agree was competent, trustworthy, etc. the U.S. was founded to get away from exactly this kind of autocracy where one person has the power and authority to change something like this. People always think of all the good that might be done with such power, but rarely consider how much evil can be wrought with that authority just as easily.

    6. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has his hands full of being a moron. You think he gives a shit about your personal data? You are a peasant to him.

    7. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      pretty sure this is not the FBIs job, probably the SEC, and FTC

    8. Re:Change it! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm pretty pissed off that Meuller is investigating Trump and not Equifax.

      In no way whatsoever are these alternative actions. Mueller would not be the right person to investigate Equifax anyway, since he doesn't grok technology.

      The Equifax fiasco is not hard to understand. Unqualified people were placed in positions of authority, they made stupid decisions, and there were no mechanisms for underlings with better understanding to raise alarms.

      But there are deeper systemic problems. Only in America do we rely on critical information being both secret and widely known. Mere knowledge of someone's SSN, DOB, and address should not be enough to clean out their bank account nor establish credit in their name. No other country has this problem. Until we fix our financial system, data breaches and identity theft will continue to be major problems.

    9. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck you, cum-lapping, pussy-hat wearing, libtard.

    10. Re:Change it! by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > In no way whatsoever are these alternative actions. ...
        > Unqualified people were placed in positions of authority, they made stupid decisions, and there were no mechanisms for underlings with better understanding to raise alarms.

      And the other situation is Equifax.

    11. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know that there's a shitload of investigators in the Department of Justice that could investigate the Equifax breach, right?

      It's not the job of the Special Prosecutor to do regular DoJ investigations. However, it could be the job of the Special Prosecutor to investigate WHY the DoJ IS NOT investigating...

    12. Re: Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "You know we're thinking of a seventh branch of the military. The "Credit Force". Because, you know, credit is a really big place, and really important.

    13. Re: Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "You know we're thinking of a seventh branch of the military. The "Credit Force". Because, you know, credit is a really big place, and really important.

      Fuck. How am I supposed to tell if this is really Donald or a Stable State traitor trying to disrupt his agenda? I know - it's clear nobody but the bestest could come up with the name "Credit Force". It takes a GENIUS level intelligence to think of that. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. MANGA

    14. Re: Change it! by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Manga? Waifu!

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    15. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure thing! How much money you've got and would you like more?

      Captcha: bastard

    16. Re:Change it! by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      No, your other situation is the entire system called credit ratings. Equifax is just a part of the stupid.

      Credit rating in a nutshell:

      Person 1: Sir you have huge debt that means you must be good for it, here's a credit card with an even huger limit.
      Person 2: Sir you're homeless, your credit rating sucks. Have a smaller credit card we know you won't pay off.
      Person 3: Sir you're an engineer earning six figures who just moved into the country? We can give you a credit card with a $200 limit, but because you don't have a credit rating you'll have to pay us $200 for that card. You earn a lot and are intelligent, we can't use that as a basis for a credit system.

    17. Re:Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The president is supposed to be capable of thinking about the people he represents. Trump clearly isn't. What has he done? Don't say the economy is hot, because that started back in 2012 if you look at the charts.

    18. Re: Change it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, Boris, you really told him!

  2. Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, did anyone expect anything to change?

    1. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One thing that's become crystal clear is that both parties are 100% owned by big-money corporations. Which is crazy, because candidates are elected by common folk but they say whatever they need to say to get into office and then do what the corporations tell them to do. I'm not sure what to do about it other than just always, always vote against the incumbent.

    2. Re: Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude, whatever you're on is really affecting you. Maybe call one of those rehab places.

    3. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 5, Funny

      I see a lot of these comments, and when I read them I hear a Russian accent.

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    4. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      I see a lot of these comments, and when I read them I hear a Russian accent.

      I hear them in a fake Russian accent, posted by a mere troll.

    5. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rich, as a collective, make all the important decisions. One's level of wealth *is* one's level of influence over governance. The world has always worked this way, and always will.

      The idea that voting takes power away from the rich and more evenly balances it among the poor is completely wrong-headed. The overwhelming majority of voters are clueless to the point of incompetence. If they actually had any real power, they would drive the country into oblivion in under a week. Voting allows poor people to decide which rich person will make the important decisions, and that's it.

      So, always voting against the incumbent doesn't do any good. The guy you are voting for is just as disloyal to you as the guy you are voting against. In fact, if you want any real power, there is one and only one thing you can do:

      become rich.

       

    6. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      I see a lot of these comments, and when I read them I hear a Russian accent.

      So you're admitting that you're Russian? My God, you're famous -- you're the Russian troll everyone's talking about!

      Inquiring minds want to know!

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    7. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't hear them because of your mom's noises.

    8. Re: Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the odd language structure I'd say they were not native English speakers.
      Perhaps Russian i?

    9. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by jbengt · · Score: 4, Funny

      One thing that's become crystal clear is that both parties are 100% owned by big-money corporations.

      That's not true.
      The Republicans are 25% owned by the anti-science religious nuts and the Democrats are 25% owned by the bleeding heart liberals, so they're at most 75% owned by big money corporations.

    10. Re: Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be Vodka induced brain damage.

    11. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are the categories mutually exclusive?

    12. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      I see a lot of these comments, and when I read them I hear a Russian accent.

      So you're admitting that you're Russian? My God, you're famous -- you're the Russian troll everyone's talking about! Inquiring minds want to know!

      You got me!

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    13. Re: Was there an expectation otherwise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found libtard SJW.

    14. Re:Was there an expectation otherwise? by q_e_t · · Score: 2

      That is a very cynical view, and I don't believe it is true.

      People don't always engage with politics, and this is partly because they don't feel that they have any real influence, and if that is what it feels like, then being informed isn't a high priority. To give him his due, Trump at the very least has made people believe that they can have an influence on the politics that affect their lives, and that it is worth engaging.

      If you look at the sweep of American (and Western) history over the last 100 years, politics has effected great changes, and that has come about through a combination of direct political action and awareness raising that has widened the right and ability to vote, and the influence ordinary people have, and it has been a very positive development.

  3. Republican House Republican Senate Republican Pres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    = nothing gets done

    Did you really think they were going to crack down on corporations? Impose regulations and fines? Hahaha, my sweet summer child.

  4. Are computers a good or an evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of us on Slashdot make a living from computers, so this is likely a bad forum for this question. However, does any good from computers trump distracted driving, identity theft, facebook/twitter addiction, school plagiarism, financial fraud, the end of privacy, etc.? You might have a few more items to add to this list.

    1. Re:Are computers a good or an evil? by fish_in_the_c · · Score: 1

      well, there is increased efficiency, fewer dangerous jobs, Increased food production and more effective distribution of food and resources, better medicine, and the ability to advance human technology and science at an unheard of pace because we can now co-orlate and model systems on a level unparalleled in human history.

      Don't forget, computers don't just mean, the box on the desk, there are a multitude of computers in every vehicle made since the 80's , they are part of CAT scans, MIR, and ultrasound machines. They are used to regulate the electric grid , and disseminate information that otherwise it would take months for an interested person to search and understand.

      I'd say computer are a tool, the purpose of a tool is to amplify the effects of human actions. The actions of the humans are either or good or bad, the tool still amplifies them.

      Use a hammer to build a house, use a hammer to kill your neighbor over beer, either way , the good or the evil does not exist within the hammer.

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    2. Re: Are computers a good or an evil? by houghi · · Score: 1

      The hammer is an inate object, just like an atom bomb. It has no concience, so blaming anything on it to s irrelevant.

      The bkaming is more a lingiustic issue. We 'blame' tsunamis for the death of people,

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  5. Big surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anything change without strict federal guidelines and without any real consequences for board members and investors.

    1. businesses should be unregulated and allowed to compete in a free market (laissez-faire), except:
    2. if the entire industry demonstrates they can't handle it themselves.(regulatory capitalism)

    Whatever we have today, it's neither the moderate capitalism of the Anglo-Saxon model nor the more socialized Rhine capitalism (social market economy). What we run today is really a crony capitalism model, unfortunately there is a lot of data on how this ultimately collapses and no examples of where it is successful.

  6. Dems wouldn't do anything either, so there's that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What was your point again?

  7. Re:Dems wouldn't do anything either, so there's th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're both the same! Obama! Buttery males!

  8. Who wins... by AVryhof · · Score: 2

    It's the same winner, every time. Money.

    1. Re:Who wins... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      to the chagrin of national retailers, those laws vary state to state.

      This time it apparently isn't.

  9. Nope by AlanBDee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Politically, nothing happened. But a lot of people locked their credit score. I'm sure credit card companies are now asking for more information to prove your identity to open a new card. People's ssn, date of birth, and drivers license can no longer be trusted as a form of identification for anything. I also had so many friends and family ask what they should do, which opened the door for me to introduce them to things like LastPass, Yubikey, and other security.

    And when the whole debate about voting machines came up, one word shut most people up: Equifax.

    1. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well at least if you're "sure" they are, I guess we're safe.

      And what is this new information you're "sure" they are asking for? Are you telling me they ask for info that's not in my Equifax file? What info is that, and where did they get it from to cross-verify? Because everything in your Equifax file has been compromised. Asking for 5 pieces of compromised data instead of 3 doesn't make a bit of a difference.

    2. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LastPass is a bad idea. Would I give someone I never met all my personal info, passwords, even 2FA tokens, because they promise to keep it secure? Think about that for a moment, and let it sit in...

    3. Re:Nope by chispito · · Score: 1

      And when the whole debate about voting machines came up, one word shut most people up: Equifax.

      I'm confused, how are voting machines related to the Equifax breach? Do they run Struts? It can't be relate to identity theft, because it's still people that verify your identity (or don't) before you vote, not the mchine.

      Electronic voting machines are a bad idea, but I don't see how waving your hands and mentioning a data breach in an unrelated industry supports the case. Isn't the technology probably more like a kiosk or industrial control equipment?

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    4. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't use a remote password locker, use one that's on your own fucking machine. -_- Geez.

  10. because this is an industry issue. by nimbius · · Score: 2

    This industry, the idea that credit is something that can be measured and a value of trust and worthiness ascribed to certain goods and services, is fragile.

    Equifax is running out of keys and they just dont seem to care. They are running out of the very currency that funds their business model. If you can no longer trust SSN's because every hacker on the planet has them, and you can no longer trust personal information because its been stolen as well, then the value assigned to the majority of your assets (people) is effectively worthless.

    and if all you can report in 20 years is the fact that everyone in your database is categorized as credit-unworthy, then you become worthless as a saleable service to your real customers: banks.

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    1. Re:because this is an industry issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to be a spoilsport, but that industry is still booming. Places like Equifax are still trusted. Equifax is doing their job right... they provide a score. Does it matter if they get hacked? Nope. They still provide it.

      Also, don't forget that security breaches are a gold mine for C-levels. Find out, short your stock, announce the hack, profit!

      There has never been a company shut down due to a security breach. Let that sink in. Security has no ROI, and a lock only generates profit for the lock maker.

    2. Re:because this is an industry issue. by Xarius · · Score: 1

      I dunno

      In the UK I think they use their own keys. You have to provide your name, some other misc. items like phone number, date of birth and your postal address history. They use a combination of a lot of data items to point to "you".

      This has some problems, but seems to work well enough. I also dislike them intensely and don't trust them at all, just FYI.

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  11. Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you look damage done to the company as a result, it really makes no sense to pretend to threaten anyone with costly fines or regulatory oversight. Value indicated by market cap is almost recovered. Their cost for the offered monitoring is marginal, and any other damages related to the incident never exceeded what they were prepared to write off as the cost of doing business. Did they ever even file a claim against their cybersecurity insurance (or rider to umbrella liability)? The red hot iron of outrage was too far from an election cycle to matter. The regulatory climate in DC is ice cold, too. Any cost of compliance or fines for noncompliance would just be passed on to the comsumers. Even if Equifax's structure and business model made it exceptionally insulated from negative impacts of consumer outrage directly, the message from Equifax and our representives in DC in the wake of the incident is clear: it pays to be careless with people's data, and there's little the consumer can do about it.

  12. Bernie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bernie Sanders would have changed this by now.

  13. No surprise by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Politically, nothing happened.

    To the surprise of absolutely no one given the current state of affairs in Washington.

    But a lot of people locked their credit score.

    So what? That's about the least interesting bit of data Equifax has about you and it does nothing to prevent mass data breaches.

    I'm sure credit card companies are now asking for more information to prove your identity to open a new card.

    Citation needed.

    also had so many friends and family ask what they should do, which opened the door for me to introduce them to things like LastPass, Yubikey, and other security.

    So you told them to use an unregulated and unaudited third party single point of failure? Great plan... You do realize that those things would do nothing to prevent a breach at Equifax right?

    1. Re:No surprise by AlanBDee · · Score: 1

      I'm sure credit card companies are now asking for more information to prove your identity to open a new card.

      Citation needed.

      I don't have a citation, it's just as assumption which is why I said, "I'm sure credit card companies..." instead of "Credit card companies are now..." The difference is a little too subtle, I probably should have put, "I assume credit card companies..." instead since it is just a guess.

      also had so many friends and family ask what they should do, which opened the door for me to introduce them to things like LastPass, Yubikey, and other security

      So you told them to use an unregulated and unaudited third party single point of failure? Great plan... You do realize that those things would do nothing to prevent a breach at Equifax right?

      Yep. If Equifax provided an authentication service would you trust it? How about Google, Apple or Microsoft? The fact is that when users try to remember their passwords they end up using the same passwords across multiple sites and/or easy-to-guess passwords. (I assume I don't need to cite this?)

      Using a keystore like LastPass or KeePass make it much easier to manage complex usernames and passwords is in my opinion the best path. Yes, it's a single point of failure but I have three yubikeys; all three of which will grant access to my LastPass account. I exported and printed my LastPass usernames and passwords where a copy is in my safe and another with a family member; both along with other "things you need if I die" papers. If you have a better process I'm happy to hear it?

      Yes I am aware that none of this would prevent a equifax breach but it does make other breaches less damaging. If a site got hacked and you got my password of: "Esg1Hn09NBfq24SYfaCg3Ef91Vy3jB" that won't help you get into any other sites I'm associated with.

    2. Re:No surprise by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      Locking a credit score doesn't prevent a breach but it does limit the useful things that can be done with the data.

    3. Re:No surprise by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      The premise of this story is nonsense.

      1. And as opposed to "nothing", the current Congress did pass and Trump did sign a bill which takes effect in 15 days which according to the FTC includes:

      Free credit freezes
              What is it? A credit freeze restricts access to your credit file, making it harder for identity thieves to open new accounts in your name. Usually you get a PIN to use each time you want to freeze and unfreeze your account to apply for new credit.
              What’s new? Currently, credit freezes may involve fees, based on state law. Starting this fall, it will be free to freeze and unfreeze your credit file throughout the country.

      Free child credit freezes
              What is it? A child credit freeze allows you to freeze a child’s credit file until the child is old enough to use credit.
              What’s new? Currently, some state laws allow you to freeze a child’s credit file. Starting September 21st, no matter where you live, you’ll be able to get a free credit freeze for children under age 16.

      Year-long fraud alerts
              What is it? A fraud alert will tell any business that runs your credit that they should check with you before opening a new account.
              What’s new? Currently, fraud alerts last 90 days. Starting this fall, an initial fraud alert will last for one year. It will still be free and identity theft victims can still get an extended fraud alert for seven years.

      2. Equifax is still in court with the Feds, but they already "entered into a consent order with eight states that requires it to improve its data-protection practices in the wake of the huge data breach last year at the national credit-reporting agency."

      “The conditions Equifax agreed to in the consent order require the company’s board to remediate the deficiencies and unsafe practices that contributed to the breach,” the Texas Department of Banking said in a statement.

      The order covers everything from risk assessments and improved oversight of information security and technology by Equifax’s board of directors and its audit committee to vendor management and the patching of software systems. Equifax is required to submit to the states by July 31 a list of all remediation projects it has begun or planned since the breach, and to submit progress reports going forward. The states will conduct on-site reviews to assess compliance.

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    4. Re:No surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The number one cause of data breaches for your average joes are reusing the same username and password on multiple sites.

      So Joe uses his P@s$wor()!! password, it's a decent enough password, but he uses it on his email, twitter, facebook, a Ford Mustang forum, and his bank account and iCloud.

      His Ford Mustang forum gets hacked because it was run by an amateur. Someone buys the credentials, and they now have access to his icloud(the number one cause of the celebrity iCloud 'hacks'), bank account, and email(the master key to everything else).

      A tool like last pass allows you to set a different password for every site. The data is encrypted, and it is decrypted locally with a key that never leaves your computer.

      A very sound solution to anyone who knows how these things work.

  14. headline by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    The headline can be taken two ways ... the identity theft Armageddon didn't happen either. Did it?

    The interesting question would be why ... I know I put a fraud alert on my credit bureau accounts (and have kept renewing it), but did most people really do that?

    1. Re:headline by wwphx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been mulling over the lack of an armageddon since the breech happened. I'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy, but my personal conclusion is that it was done by a state actor, and that actor was China. My suspicion is they hoovered Equifax because the exploit made them vulnerable and in doing so it gave China access to a treasure trove of information not just on pretty much every American, but a specific subset: every American working for the U.S. government. Every CIA agent, every NSA agent, in addition to every head of industry, every computer chip researcher. Anyone who might be of interest. At first I thought it might have been theft for stealing medical insurance coverage, but not only did that not happen, but nothing happened. It was such a huge haul of information that no criminal org capable of stealing that amount of info is going to sit on it - they need/want to monetize it for their efforts, but a government who wanted it for different purposes could.

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    2. Re:headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      The headline can be taken two ways ... the identity theft Armageddon didn't happen either. Did it?

      Maybe it's just waiting for the right time? How available is the breech data? I haven't heard that there was a massive release of it. I'd suspect the thieves are slowly selling it off rather than mass releasing the thing.

      If eventually this data becomes widely available on any old bittorent site, prepare for a much larger problem.

    3. Re:headline by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      I've had my credit frozen since way before the Equifax breach. Somehow (I've never found out how and likely never will), someone got my name, SSN, DOB, and address. They used this to open a credit card in my name. (RED FLAG #1: They got Mother's Maiden Name wrong. So much for security with that.) They then immediately changed the address to an address in another state (RED FLAG #2) but not before paying for rush delivery of the card. Thanks to the latter, the card was rushed out before the address change went through and it came to me instead of to them. Had this not happened, I would have known about it when the collection agency was busting down my doors to collect debt that "I" ran up. While the card was on its way, a woman representing "me" called asking for a $5,000 cash advance before the card was activated (RED FLAG #3). This was thankfully denied. Still, none of these red flags caused the credit card company (Capital One) to rethink whether this was fraud.

      When I called Capital One to ask about this card, they first insisted that I had opened it. Then, they claimed that my wife opened it without my knowledge. (She was standing right there terrified about what this meant.) Finally, they admitted it was probably fraud, but refused to give me more information. As they put it "if we give you their address and you go and shoot them, we're liable." Yes, that's a direct quote. They were concerned I might perpetrate violence on the people who opened a credit card in my name and they'd be legally liable. They weren't concerned about legal liability for opening a line of credit in my name, though. No issue there for them to worry about.

      The police looked into it but a) didn't know how to track where IP addresses came from much less track people across the Internet and b) weren't interested in pursuing a case that they would need to hand off to another department for the arrest. That and Capital One giving the police the runaround (told them to call a line that went to perpetually unanswered voice mail) meant that the people responsible for this were never arrested.

      The most I was able to do was freeze my (and my wife's) credit file. This prevents this from happening in the future since my information is obviously "out there." However, it becomes a pain whenever I need a loan or anything else that needs my credit file thawed.

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    4. Re: headline by schklerg · · Score: 2

      The problem with that reasoning is Equifax's security was so demonstrably poor that it could have been China or your 8 year old cousin. They should have been sued, fined, and regulated into oblivion.

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    5. Re:headline by ftobin · · Score: 1

      Did you have security freezes with all three major agencies? I'm surprised that an organization would give you credit without being able to verify your worthiness, unless there's a "back door" that we're not aware of. I've had to do freeze lifts for even things like opening a bank or brokerage account, but I don't mind, since that happens maybe once every few years.

      Transunion has the least painful process by far, since you actually have an account with them so you don't have to re-enter a bunch of personal data each time, and the lift control is much better. For example, you can have a temporary lift, and then cancel it (I just did it a couple of days ago).

    6. Re:headline by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy

      But when I am, dammit if I don't go all out.

    7. Re:headline by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Yes. My credit with all three agencies is frozen (as is my wife's). The fraudulent card was issued before I had the freeze on. That happened back in my blissfully ignorant days when I thought my information was secure because I was careful about it. Now I know that your information is only as secure as the least secure company holding your data. And with breaches happening so often, it's best to just assume your data is out there and act accordingly.

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  15. Three monkeys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Equifax and their counterparts are doing the government's dirty work tracking everyone and then selling the data. What would the reaction be if the US government or states did this kind of thing? Nothing is going to change until this "Big Data" is regulated. Nothing will be regulated until something extremely bad happens to them personally or large corporation is toppled because of a breach.

    Congress critters see no evil, say no evil, hear no evil until it affects their pocketbook...

  16. Why should it change? by houghi · · Score: 1

    Not talking about what or why you WANT it to change. Why SHOULD they change. No accountabiliy, no reason.

    If I would steal cookies as a kid and all my mom would do was moan about ot, I would eat them all and demand more.
    A light punishment after the first cookie was enough.

    Accountability: it somehow matters.

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    1. Re:Why should it change? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      One of the big problems is that big agencies like Equifax contribute to politicians and hire lobbyists.

      Imagine your example, but when you steal 10 cookies, you give your mother a cookie. In exchange, she wags her finger at you for stealing cookies but nothing else. Meanwhile, your younger brother has no such arrangement and gets grounded for a week for eating a cookie crumb that wasn't his. After the most recent Cookie Stealing Incident, your mother moans about how horrible it is that people steal cookies and pledges to get to the bottom of it, but then ups the punishment on your younger brother while munching on a cookie you gave her.

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  17. Ah, democracy by alternative_right · · Score: 1

    You're free.

    You're equal.

    You are tolerated.

    Maybe these are not the right things to be hoping for; perhaps we need reality, sanity, and the ability to address glaringly obvious problems instead.

  18. Republicans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    is the short answer. Can't let anything inconvenience the corporations, after all.

  19. Something important has changed by bagofbeans · · Score: 1

    Free credit freezes are due this month thanks to Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2155/text?format=txt/

    TITLE III--PROTECTIONS FOR VETERANS, CONSUMERS, AND HOMEOWNERS

    SEC. 301. PROTECTING CONSUMERS' CREDIT.
    (a) In General.--Section 605A of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15
    U.S.C. 1681c-1) is amended--
    (1) in subsection (a)(1)(A), by striking ``90 days'' and
    inserting ``1 year''; and
    (2) by adding at the end the following:
    ``(i) National Security Freeze.--
    ``(1) Definitions.--For purposes of this subsection:
    ``(A) The term `consumer reporting agency' means a consumer
    reporting agency described in section 603(p).
    ``(B) The term `proper identification' has the meaning of
    such term as used under section 610.
    ``(C) The term `security freeze' means a restriction that
    prohibits a consumer reporting agency from disclosing the
    contents of a consumer report that is subject to such security
    freeze to any person requesting the consumer report.
    ``(2) Placement of security freeze.--
    ``(A) In general.--Upon receiving a direct request from a
    consumer that a consumer reporting agency place a security
    freeze, and upon receiving proper identification from the
    consumer, the consumer reporting agency shall, free of charge,
    place the security freeze not later than--
    ``(i) in the case of a request that is by toll-free
    telephone or secure electronic means, 1 business day after
    receiving the request directly from the consumer; or
    ``(ii) in the case of a request that is by mail, 3
    business days after receiving the request directly from the
    consumer.
    ``(B) Confirmation and additional information.--Not later
    than 5 business days after placing a security freeze under
    subparagraph (A), a consumer reporting agency shall--

    1. Re:Something important has changed by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Too bad neither of my state senators voted for it but then one really can't expect much out of Amy Klobuchar. At least my Representative in the House voted for it.

      Looks like I may have some things to get setup in a couple of weeks when things go into effect on Sept 21.

      --
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    2. Re:Something important has changed by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Too bad neither of my state senators voted for it but then one really can't expect much out of Amy Klobuchar. At least my Representative in the House voted for it.

      I admit that I haven't read much of the bill, and so this may be unfair stereotyping, but when there's a bill that regulates large companies and only one Republican between both the House and Senate votes against it, I get suspicious of what the bill will really do.

    3. Re:Something important has changed by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      From what I read of it, it is fairly long, it seems like it is pretty good. Then again there are a number of change these words to these other words in existing law which is usually where things go sideways. In the senate it looks like 16 democrats and 1 independent also voted for it. In the house it looks like 33 democrats voted for it too. So while not a strongly bipartisian bill it seems like there is support from both sides and from what little reporting on I have seen seems to indicate that it did roll back some of the Dodd-Frank regulations so that may be why there wasn't as strong of democrat support. Then again I don't really know if those roll backs were good or bad as I just don't have enough knowledge in that area.

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    4. Re:Something important has changed by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      ...from what little reporting on I have seen seems to indicate that it did roll back some of the Dodd-Frank regulations...

      Thanks, that's the answer I was looking for.

  20. I'm a Equifax customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a customer of Equifax, and have been for almost 20 years.

    I have used their services to alert me regarding accounts, my credit history, etc; When I found out what had happened I was deeply disappointed, but I didn't cancel my account, and I still use their services. No, I am not an apologist for Equifax, and think heads should have rolled over their breach... I thought about cancelling, but in the long run, what good would it have done to either myself or to trying to make things change(which they didn't)

    I did do a hard credit freeze on all of the credit bureaus however.

  21. Why should anything change? by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's no incentive, no motive.

    Customers are helpless to do anything about it so they just shrug and move on.

    Their shit is out there anyway, what with all the other goddam break-ins.

    In the spirit of, "too big to fail," Equifax is too big for their breaches.

    All your base are belong to us.

    --
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    1. Re:Why should anything change? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

      In the spirit of, "too big to fail," Equifax is too big for their breaches.

      I see what you did there.

    2. Re:Why should anything change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I froze my credit... but only for Equifax. I figure if a lender asks about my frozen credit I will tell them to use a provider that actually cares a teeny little bit about security. Maybe then they might switch and Equifax might actually lose a few $ since it is the lenders that actually pay them.

    3. Re:Why should anything change? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I froze on all three majors.

      Hopefully inquiring minds have to go through me first.

      --
      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  22. What I'm interested in seeing by wwphx · · Score: 1

    is if Equifax gets hacked yet again, because there's a fresh new Struts weakness that was announced within the last week that was every bit as bad that lead to this breech. I would fine it hilarious if they're getting cleaned out once again even as we post.

    --
    When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
    1. Re:What I'm interested in seeing by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      This is how you know Slashdot ain't really news for nerds anymore. Here are teh types of article that would be linked into TFsummary if it was:

      https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/thoughts-on-the-latest-apache-struts-vulnerability-/a/d-id/1332716

      http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-11776

    2. Re:What I'm interested in seeing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a network that big, you don't think they're still inside?

  23. If anyone wants this to change by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    We need to elect politicians who support regulation as a solution. You can't rely on market forces since you're not able to "shop around" for a credit agency. They're assigned to you.

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    1. Re:If anyone wants this to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. Current politicians are loathe to regulate. Can you hear me rolling my eyes.

      So if I understand you, your solution is to regulate such that the government is in control of your data. As such, you still have no solution since you are now relying on an institution that by itself cannot protect its own data (too many hacks to list here).

      You are far better relying on the free market. Equifax may very well go under. Others who protect your data may not. But the government is eternal, and they do not have to give a shit beyond the press release and next election. And you people keep reelecting your representatives and senators, so I am guessing few people really give a shit either.

      Just go freeze your damn credit bureau reports. Like locking doors on airliners, that is the simplest and so far most effective solution.

    2. Re:If anyone wants this to change by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Weird. Other countries don't have this problem.

  24. APK is mad his partents regret not aborting him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alexander Peter Kowalski is just mad that his parents still regret not aborting him so he keeps posting that garbage. He is also upset that he keeps getting stomped down when ever he posts his hosts file garbage like the retarded loser he is.

    1. Re:APK is mad his partents regret not aborting him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see apk signing that. Your paranoia is incredible jew. I can't blame you though. Truth and fact about you makes you fear the oven and zyklon B (the treatment that works to get rid of jewfestation).

    2. Re:APK is mad his partents regret not aborting him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROTFLMAO! "jewfestation". Hahahaha!

    3. Re:APK is mad his partents regret not aborting him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right AlecStaar from ArsTechnica. It was you, not APK, who keeps writing that garbage. By comparison you make APK look only mildly retarded instead of totally retarded. I hear your mother moved back to Poland to live out her dream of having an ocean between her and her retarded man child of a son. She wanted out so badly that she left you the duplex that you and her inhabited so now you can live upstairs instead of being resigned to the lower level with your roommate at age 54. By the way did you ever fix that problem where your program barks?

    4. Re:APK is mad his partents regret not aborting him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jew why it is those of your faith are always kicked out of countries? Why do you say you are superior yet cut off your noses in rhinoplasty trying to look like us goyim?

  25. and this is the scary part: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm sure credit card companies are now asking for more information to prove your identity to open a new card."

    Which means there will be more information leaked in the next breach, which also means that more information will be no longer trusted as valid forms of identification. In the end this is how trust dies and we are seeing it on a daily basis.

    Welcome to the post truth era, chaos to ensue momentarily.

  26. 50 Years After Nixon, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty much nothing has changed. I mean, really, what did you expect?

  27. Our government is broken and corrupt by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Of course nothing changed; the politicians, The Rich, they're all already 'protected', they were never in any danger from this, only The Poor, and middle-class working people stood to lose anything -- and our own alleged 'representatives' in our government don't really give a rat's ass about any of us filthy plebians. Politicians are too busy trying to hold on to their power and position, a large part of which is serving corporate interests (whose money got them elected in the first place; thanks so much Citizens United), the rest of which is kowtowing to (you guessed it) The Rich, who likewise funded their campaigns. Meanwhile the rest of us cross our fingers and hope we don't get our bank accounts drained, credit cards maxed out, and identity stolen and ruined forever; I, for one, don't even bother worrying, I have nothing to take, my identity is basically worthless, and there's not a gods-be-damned thing I can do about it all anyway, it's out of my hands, so why make myself sick with worry? I'll be there when Monsieur Guillotine is brought out again, and the people who have shit on us are dealt with, but until then what can we do but try to survive? Also meanwhile, we have to vote for Democrats whether we like it or not, because it's mainly the Republicans who currently hold a majority who are ignoring this shit, and throwing things farther and farther out of balance every month, so regardless of Democrats being just as corrupt, we have to pit them against each other and hope something actually gets done. The alternative is anarchy and chaos, which would complete the descent of the United States from a top-tier first-world country down into a third-world lawless shithole like Libya or Syria or Somalia.

    Enjoy your Thursday, everyone!

    1. Re:Our government is broken and corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually,
      We need to balance the Democrats and Republicans specifically so that NOTHING can get done. Letting one party have power tends to tip the scales just enough they can move quickly to bring about changes that does nothing but continue to pull money from the poor to feed to the rich. And that's regardless of which party is in power. If they are relatively balanced, there's at least lip-service to not serving the same masters, and they'll try to block each other at every turn, preventing the steady decline from progressing at an ever increasing rate.

  28. Regulating and suing the wrong company by FeelGood314 · · Score: 1

    You are not Equifax's customer, you are their product. (Just like you are facebook and google's product). You are however your credit card companies customer. If there was pressure put on the credit companies not to share information with an insecure entity like Equifax then Equifax would either put some effort into security or go bankrupt. Equifax has to have a near complete picture of everyone's credit score to remain in business. If even a few creditors stopped sharing information with them they would be in big trouble.

  29. We need a fire-wall by Pascoea · · Score: 1

    Just tell Donald that it's a wall, he'll start pushing for funding.

  30. But things HAVE changed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They repealed net neutrality.

  31. One thing sure as sh!t changed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I froze my credit with all three companies and won't use it again anytime in the foreseeable future.

    Granted, I'm lucky I'm in a position that allows me to do that, but still... if anyone has the audacity to act like a credit score matters I'll just laugh them out of the room.

    1. Re:One thing sure as sh!t changed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does luck have to do with living within your means?

  32. No interest in consumer protection. by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The last line of the summary says it all: "Mick Mulvaney took over the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in November and halted the bureau's investigation."

    The current administration is not interested in consumer protection.

    They are on the side of business, not consumers.

    1. Re: No interest in consumer protection. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The current administration? More like all of the administrations!

  33. DEEP SWAMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    here you can see its action: https://www.real.video/5831345857001

  34. Correct - are there any identity thefts? by ripvlan · · Score: 1

    My credit is fine. Have there been reports of massive fraud that can be traced back to this? What are they doing with it?

    I predicted that this won't be a consumer problem. The credit system now has an issue - all of their previously "Secret" data is floating around. As a consumer I don't know what to do or what is happening out there. But if a rash of fraudulent loans start appearing then the credit market will really have a problem.

    Just like I have to press "block caller" due to the high level of scam phone calls --- the credit market may need to start doing the same. Then we all have a problem.

  35. Act in haste... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course Congress should have rushed out some knee-jerk legislation about something that is complex and which they don't understand, as it would have made things much better. In fact why don't they call the bill INHASTE - INvest in HArdended Services, Thanks Equifax

  36. There Has Been Change! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There has been change. The consumer's wariness and resistance has been further eroded. Where as last year, people and Mainstream media wrung their hands and waved their online virtual pitchforks for a few days. Then they came to realize that they weren't making a difference and that nothing too terribly bad happened to the majority. So... Fuck it!

    If the same breach occurred today, even fewer people would express and concern or anger. So, what changed? People got more comfortable with their information being amassed by shadowy corporations and more accepting of the fact(FACT) that their data will again be leaked and that there is fuck all that they can do about it.

    What a wonderful day!

  37. Remember the russian trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fucking love you guys, many laughs comrade!!

    I want you to take a look at what happened at equifax and sony and think about how long it will be before the private records of IRA and other troll farms are made public.
    One day you will be hunted and dox'd relentlessly and you'll probably get searched on every international flight for the rest of your life... if anyone ever gives you a visa again that is.

    You guys generated a lot of data and I don't know how long you, personally have been at it but you guys were a lot sloppier back in 2015. Real names in dns records :( Cribs and logs in public s3 buckets and pastebin tsk tsk tsk.

    I saw this shit back then and didn't know what to make of it and I doubt I'm the only one. American intelligence and law enforcement will compile a list of as many of you as possible and then figure out which of you are the most remorseful and of those who has the most valuable information. They'll be placed on payroll and your name and associated information will be shared with all the other 5 eyes nation and leaked to the hacker community after it's stale.

    I hope you're well compensated because once you're all dox'd you'll never know when someone will decide to have fun at your expense for the rest of your life. I know guys in the hacker community that are still swatting people over shit that happened decades ago when they were kids.
    As we say in USA "food for thot comrade!"

  38. Re:The root of all problems = Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Either the best troll post, or most long winded pointless Jew rant I've ever. Make a point, maybe two or three, a dissertation on slashdot is just moronic. Jews fucked your wife and killed your dog, we get it. I think maybe you're the Jew, only one of them would know that many Jew words. MOD THIS GUY UP, he's special ed.

    doesnothingwell - funny it says I'm signed in.

  39. Enforce Laws, then see change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People need to see PRISON time before change happens. All large corp execs have immunity from prison, so we will see more crap like this with no changes. More breaches, more excuses, more illegal actions, more fraud, money laundering, etc. Put one in prison, and I guarantee we will see "sweeping reforms". LOL

    1. Re: Enforce Laws, then see change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Imagine robbing a bank.. you take in, say, $1M. Say you get caught and your punishment is a BIG fine of, say, $200k. You net 800K from the deal, and another bit at the apple in a few years. THAT is how US government deals with corp crime. An insult to people's intilligence.

  40. Re:The root of all problems = Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to know why jews cut their hook noses off to look like us "inferior goyim" who they say we are that are inferior stupid cattle to rob and rape.

  41. The root of all problems = Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fake news is from FAKE JEWS (fakebook/jewgle)

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Mark Zuckerberg stole the Winklevoss twins' code for Fakebook (figures as he is a thieving low jew too).

    Maria Abramovic satanist spirit cooker pal of Hillary Clinton the Voodoo queen is a jew https://www.google.com/search?...

    Like Hillary Clinton's mentor Saul Alinsky author of rules for radicals book dedicated to Lucifer

    "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer Â- so I wasnÂ't lying Â- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much aliveÂ" Harold Rosenthal http://www.thetruthseeker.co.u...

    Jewish rabbi openly admits to satan worship use white children's blood they kill for passover bread, infiltrating and subverting the catholic church, creating the Jesuit order https://www.youtube.com/watch?... and https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Barbara Spectre, a jew, tells everyone it's jews orchestrating the muslim migrant problem in Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ/ . No migrant raping of women in Poland. Tons in Sweden. Do the math. Use common-sense. This is to get muslims and other goyim/gentiles to wipe one another out as incompatible cultures that will clash and always have.

    Rabbi A. Finkelstein ADMITS their greatest enemies are ARABS and WHITES (blacks too) whom they wish to kill one another in a 'theater of war' which they find AMUSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS DID 9/11 (perpetrated by the Mossad & Bebe Netanyahu of ISRAEL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... profiting by it (and that 3,000 jews employed there did not show up for work that day knowing about it beforehand).

    Finkelstein also admits JEWS are going to destroy the U.S. Dollar and dumping it for other world currencies and gold to destroy the United States.

    George Soros who funds groups to create division in the USA?? A jew. One who sold his own jew people into death for the nazis.

    Zucker now FIRED @ CNN is another frying publicly for lying about "russians" and John Bonifield a producer @ CNN said it is bs. Van Jones did also.

    Bernie Madoff (who made off with everyone's money, especially construction union pensions) shows the thieving nature of the JUDEN!

    Eric Schmidt had to step dow

  42. That's showing him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's showing him comrade!

    I'm sure leader Putin will thank you personally and reward you greatly for your support.

  43. not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every year, Microsoft does code and security reviews for my state's department of state. Every year, they point out the same security holes. Every year, they're blown off because the H1Bs don't want to plug the holes. And the executives are too stupid, corrupt, or dickless to push back.