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'Eve Online' Studio Acquired By Korean MMO Maker (engadget.com)

MAXOMENOS writes: EVE Online developer CCP Games has been acquired by Pearl Abyss, the South Korean studio behind the action-oriented MMORPG Black Desert Online. According to VentureBeat, the deal was worth $425 million and will close in early October. It's a surprise announcement for CCP, which has long operated as an independent developer. Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market, but it has maintained a steady and loyal userbase through continuous updates and a well-timed switch to a hybrid premium and free-to-play model. The 15-year-old game is unique, too, with its large-scale battles and notoriously complex economic and political systems.

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  1. RIP Eve by spiritplumber · · Score: 2

    Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.

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    1. Re:RIP Eve by sinij · · Score: 2

      If someone could make EVE more grindy, it would be a Korean MMO maker. I don't see them misunderstanding that aspect, as they invented Korean Grinder.

    2. Re:RIP Eve by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now watch the new owners completely misunderstand the userbase's culture and wreck a good thing.

      CCP already did that years ago.

    3. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Of course they will, trying to attract female players and making it so that characters walk in stations, abomination. I like my MMOs to be like my porn, trapped in 1990s genre conventions. We had riots in Eve to stop the abomination of having characters interact face to face, (actually, it was because of overpriced microtransactions but that's what conservative players bring up every time someone wants to cut themselves out of their pod to stretch their legs) go back to No Man's Sky, you traitors.

    4. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as they invented Korean Grinder

      Is that some kind of sandwich?

    5. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien women and bikini-space-armor into it.
      East Asia never suffered the retardation of puritanism, which is unique to the Western world owing to Abrahamic doctrine, to develop Gymnophobia and Genophobia, so they don't care about the Church-Feminist anti-sexualization offense alliance. The only exception are the "Communist" governments there.

    6. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, what you say about sexy alien women is mostly true. But why is Korean's sexy is so heavily tilted to pedo?

    7. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno. I can only theorize that East Asians age worse than other races so they put appreciation on their younger ages more than the rest of the world does.

    8. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, similar to the Cambodian Grinder

    9. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Son, if Koreans will do anything it's inject sexy alien women and bikini-space-armor into it.

      [sarcasm]I didn't know that Blizzard is a Korean company[/sarcasm] (Hint. Starcraft. Warcraft.)

        Korea has been and is still suffering so much from puritanism because of aggressiveness of those fundamental christians. Even tho afaik christian population is about a fourth they act like if they are major. And of course from very huge influence from confucianism. There is so much conflict with those christians and traditional people. You don't have any clue, kid. Don't generalise all east asian countries as if they are all same.

    10. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      f**king racist's theory? who cares your theory?

    11. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eve has been dead since it went pay-to-win selling to the Koreans the kings of that realm is just the logical course to take.

    12. Re: RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      christianity is the most popular religion in the ROK. they even have their own crazy joseph smith analogue, sun myung moon, who founded his own church that's sorta part scientology and part latter day saints in style and cultiness. oh yeah, they also own the washington times.

    13. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not Puritan? The Japanese don't even have genitals. I've seen many documentaries showing that.

    14. Re:RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goodbye Eve. Glad I played before it all went to the dogs. Oh well.

    15. Re:RIP Eve by St.Creed · · Score: 2

      It was bad in the beta and never actually recovered from some pretty bad development choices. Have they discovered parallel processing yet? And version management? Okay, I guess the last one was a bit mean. They must have discovered Git by now.

      But seriously, the game is an unstructured mess. Played it for a while, flew a Machariel and did incursions, level 4 missions etc. but after a while it got boring. May pick it up again though.

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    16. Re: RIP Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to be confusing Koreans with the Japanese. And I hardly think that an accurate depiction of the physical characteristics of an Adult Asian woman count as "pedophilia."
      Besides, based on numbers, your penchant for oversized asses and impossibly large silicon stuffed breasts makes you the abnormal one.

  2. Eve! by MJhasHIV · · Score: 0

    Does that mean it costs extra now to play it in the USA? ;]

  3. Not Good News by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Shamus Young has a series on Black Desert, explaining how shockingly aggressive, expensive and game-ruining he found the microtransactions system to be, even if you're familiar with the worst of the American systems. There's manadatory PvP and deliberately cramped inventory space but the "cash shop" can always make things better (i.e. playable).

    I'd be worried if I were an EVE Online fan.

    https://www.shamusyoung.com/tw...

    I see all the default clothes are bland and I need to pay real money for a cool outfit. Aesthetics are important to me. (Which is why I spend so much time on sculpting my character.) So I really don’t want to spend the rest of my time looking at these blando outfits. Sigh. Fine. What’s a pretend suit of armor cost these days? Three bucks? Five bucks?

    FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?

    The cheap outfits can be had for $22. They also offer ladies underwear sets for just $7, if you want to run around in your underpants. (I don’t, thanks.)

    (They also offer similar options for male characters. I was tempted to get the outfit that would let my kung-fu guy go shirtless, because he’s a kung-fu dude. But all of the choices looked like modern-day boxers. You can’t just wear baggy pants with no shirt.)

    Would you like to dye that super-expensive outfit you just bought? Or any other outfit? That will set you back another $10. And that’s somehow a rental. Your ten bucks gets you a month of being allowed to have dyed clothes. After the month is up, your clothes revert to their original colors and you gotta fork over another $10.

    Do you enjoy wheeling and dealing at the auction house in other games, but the egregious 35% tax on all your sales is making it impossible for you to have fun or turn a profit? Pay fifteen real-world dollars and the tax will go down to the normal 5%. (For one month.)

    Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the seller to ask this much[2] for what should be trivial virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum for five bucks.

    1. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Everything is exorbitantly priced like this. It’s so outrageously expensive that I get immediately pissed off. It’s not even about the money, it’s about the sheer audacity of the seller to ask this much for what should be trivial virtual goods. Even if you’re a millionaire, you’re still likely to get offended if someone tries to sell you a stick of ordinary gum for five bucks.

      Sometimes, I thought Stallman was being a pendant for gripes about terminology like "intellectual property".

      Now I realize he was exactly right.

      This guy uses the words "virtual goods", like it's something he'll actually own. Dollars to donuts, the EULA and TOS says these 'virtual goods' are nothing more than bits on their server, you don't own a single bit of it, and they do whatever they like, and fuck you we're keeping your money if you don't like it.

      Seriously, this should be a legal term. If your company sells "virtual goods", you should be obligated from the time of sale until the time of the consumer's death, to keep that virtual good accessible to the customer (and the customer's friends) or refund EVERY SINGLE PENNY of the transaction, including fees. Don't like it? Then stop selling GOODS, and call by what it is: temporary limited service perks

    2. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My stash of pizza, mountain dew, poop socks, and my three cats (down from 4, I forgot to feed them while raiding and they ate one) are not virtual. My level 247 Necromancer is also very valuable, he has full epic gear and has all rare titles unlocked.

      Raid times are 6pm to 6am Monday to Friday and 2pm to 10am Saturday and Sunday. Come play World of Catass with us!

    3. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FORTY SIX AMERICAN DOLLARS? ARE YOU TRYING TO START A FIGHT?

      And this is why I refuse to play online games, or any form of game where cash-money is used to advance your progress.

      No thanks, I'll stick with Skyrim on my XBox 360 and ignore all of this shit.

      That's some hardcore price gouging, are people stupid enough to spend that kind of money on in-game purchases?

      Bloody hell.

    4. Re:Not Good News by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for Skyrim?

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    5. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when they wanted to make players PAY for mods for Skyrim?

      Personally, no ... because like all things gaming I came to it much later when it had been around a while and had to be told about it.

      But it's been my go-to game since, because I can play it forever and never actually advance the plot if I don't want to.

      For me, it's just an open roamer I can wander around kill the odd troll or bear, and gold-farm to kill an hour or two at a time. Odd, I know, but that is what I enjoy most about it.

    6. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shamus Young needs to write better. I keep trying to quickly read his article, but the thing is so casually written the point gets lost over all caps, italics and image breaks in the text. The link colour is too distracting. Trying to pick the key points out is not working with the blurry structure.

    7. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you heard of Bethesda's creation club? Paid mods have been live for a while.

      The exploitation of players is really turning me off from gaming.

    8. Re:Not Good News by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      $46 for a suit of armor?

      If I ever had any interest in playing Eve*, this pricing would instantly cure me of that notion.

      *Which I don't, but still...

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    9. Re:Not Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you don't need any of that stuff in the game to enjoy it. I'm not sure why people get pissed off when they are offered things and can't afford them.

      I can't afford them for sure. I have plenty of fun in the game without buying any of that stuff. And the 'forced pvp' comment is just wrong, pvp in the game is completely optional (you can get griefed. You lose nothing. The griefer has a chance their items can be destroyed. You can switch to 30 other servers and play in the same area there if someone's bothering you. If you want to 'karma-bomb' your griefer, force them to kill you a few more times to destroy their equipment and make them run for the hills).

  4. Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    If that isn't a match made in hell I don't know what is.

    1. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, it's Star Citizen's time to shine!

    2. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did anyone tell CCP games about it?

    3. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

      ....if they can only get out of beta......

    4. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, I can just pay like 50$ and boost my ship in order to destroy the plebs.

    5. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by blackomegax · · Score: 1

      The current beta is 3 moons, 2 stations, and a shitty framework of a "game" that runs at 10fps on a GTX1060 at low settings and looks 5x worse than games like doom or E:D.

    6. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....if they can only get out of beta......

      If only Star Citizen could get into Beta, they are currently in Alpha 3.2!

    7. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      They're not even in Alpha. They call it that, but what it actually is, is "perpetual development hell". It doesn't have a version number but if it had, it would be 666.

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    8. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GP here: right, I agree, that is why I mentioned 3.2 with an exclamation mark.

      Normally, Alpha's have version numbers like 0.3 and not something over 3.

    9. Re:Eve + Korean MMO + Pay To Win by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      Hmm yeah good point :) I guess I was a bit tired when I replied.

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  5. What userbase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a good thing. Once Koreans and Chinese understand the gist of EVE, all the munchkins spending thousands on PLEX are going to be bawling to Mommy that they get podded the millisecond they leave highsec space by corps who know what they are doing. Better insure that Titan.

    1. Re:What userbase? by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      It's almost like you don't know there's already Korean and Chinese alliances in Eve.......and they're not doing all that well. I'm sure FRT will stop feeding Keepstars soon.

  6. Why didn't microsoft acquire it? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    Since its unofficial tagline is, ya know, "spreadsheet online"

    1. Re:Why didn't microsoft acquire it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eve is Spreadsheets in space.

      Spreadsheets online is just google docs or office 365.

      A minor point, but slashdot is so very tiring because false information is more likely to get mod points than truth.

    2. Re:Why didn't microsoft acquire it? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      It's also known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".

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    3. Re:Why didn't microsoft acquire it? by meglon · · Score: 1

      But...it's a really pretty spreadsheet.

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    4. Re:Why didn't microsoft acquire it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Becasue Microsoft's spreadsheet already had a flight simulator.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYb5GUs0dM

  7. I wonder what will happen to White Wolf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CCP bought the rights to White Wolf, the studio that created the old World of Darkness tabletop games. By all accounts they've been botching it up with weird political editorial meddling, and pissing off their writers. I wonder if this will bring positive change, or just kill the line off altogether?

    1. Re:I wonder what will happen to White Wolf by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP completely shelved, never to see the light of day again, similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.

    2. Re:I wonder what will happen to White Wolf by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      CCP was making a World of Darkness MMO, but canceled the project a few years ago. I think they sold the IP.

    3. Re:I wonder what will happen to White Wolf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes me wonder too. I wonder if White Wolf would be sold off (likely) or spun off (unlikely, but would be nicer). My fear is that it gets tossed to some big company, and the IP completely shelved, never to see the light of day again, similar to how EA has done with a lot of Origin IP.

      Paradox have WW now, they bought it back in 2015

  8. Only half a billion? by beheaderaswp · · Score: 1

    My god... that number is kinda high...

    That aside... this new owner will just accentuate the problem areas of Eve that kept it from truly meeting it's potential.

    As it is, it's already a griefing sandbox with little wiggle room for anything except PVP and/or massive corporate/alliance industry or fleet ops. When it could be far more balanced and appeal to a larger player base.

    Pushing it further into "gang warfare" style griefing will eventually make the player base smaller.

    I stopped playing in 2016. So I played for 12 years. In the old days you could strike out into deep space and have an adventure. These days you can't do that without a full armada or a covert ops frigate. Forget being an industrialist or a trader. Without military backing you can do nothing.

    Eve online almost achieved greatness. The hope always was that they would expand space so it was really big... so you could get lost in it.

    That's not going to happen now :(

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    1. Re: Only half a billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eve is great BECAUSE it doesn't have mass market appeal.

      Eve is great because the vast majority of the game is player driven.

      You're an idiot

    2. Re:Only half a billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing the devs seem to accept is fully-insured battleship fights slugging it out at long range. Any ship or tactic that is good at anything else gets nerfed.

      I have "quit" three times since eve started twice for the same reason: I spend months, and in one case two years, working towards a goal only for it to be taken away from me. The other is all the damned market bots. I love playing a virtual no-holds-barred market against people, but when so many break the ToS and use bots, humans cant compete. If you join the bot party you risk losing your account. The botters dont care, they are gold farmers and do this for a living. They expect to create hundreds of new accounts a day.

      Fuck them all.

    3. Re:Only half a billion? by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      Your description of events is the exact opposite of your conclusion. It sounds like EVE has in fact achieved greatness, because the process you describe functions exactly like real world functions on macro level.

      The fact that they apparently managed to recreated the world on macro level in a game through long standing player interactions in less than two decades is mind blowingly amazing.

    4. Re:Only half a billion? by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      And indeed, a subject of economic studies. Pretty brilliant work in that respect. Whether it's successful as an enjoyable game is something else entirely.

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    5. Re:Only half a billion? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Not economic. Political. This is literally the core tenets of concept of sovereignty. Economy is just a part of the picture here.

  9. It's nice to be a nudist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck clothes! Real or virtual!

    Oh, and if I wanna fap in public, and you see / stare at, I will sue YOU for (sexual) harassment! Leave me alone, unless you're hot to me AND I have left my girlfriend! Cause I ain't thinking about you, saggy-tits unshaved radfem hippie, when I fap. Nobody does!

  10. Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes by Cito · · Score: 1

    No more expansion packs but eve online will offer season passes at 4 different tier prices; standard, deluxe edition, legacy and ultimate edition.

    1. Re:Eve Online New addon will contain loot boxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, now monthly lootboxes with new ship plans, but so much useless stuff you have to buy between 10-50 to get them, they'll add an energy system and everything but pvp will require energy, which you will earn slowly while online as a free player, but as a premium player you'll earn it twice as fast (and earn it offline) and be able to store 3 times as much, and ships will naturally decay over time requiring additional maintenance, and upgrading your ship will now have a randomized chance to give you your upgrade or fail and destroy your ship entirely. Oh and in pvp, you can drop your entire inventory as loot.

  11. Also known as by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "Eve Online", also affectionately known as "Spreadsheet Simulator".

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  12. made me laugh by meglon · · Score: 1

    Eve Online isn't the biggest MMORPG on the market

    In other news: water is wet, and the sky is blue.

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