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Elon Musk Takes a Fatalistic View Toward AI (youtube.com)

Elon Musk sat down with California comedian Joe Rogan on Thursday evening for a 2 1/2-hour podcast [YouTube video] that touched upon everything from flamethrowers and artificial intelligence to the end of the universe. Talking about AI, a subject Musk has long been very vocal about, he said artificial intelligence could turn out to be terrible or it could end up being great, but one thing that is certain is that it will be beyond human's control. From a report: "You kind of have to be optimistic about the future. There's no point in being pessimistic," said the head of Tesla and SpaceX. "I rather be optimistic and wrong, than pessimistic and right. [...] It's not necessarily bad, but it's going to be outside of human control. It's going to be very tempting to use AI as a weapon, said Musk. "It will be used as a weapon. The on ramp to serious AI will be more humans using it against eachother. That will be the danger."

Musk says he has tried to convince people to slow down where AI is concerned and regulate it, but nobody listened. "The way that regulation works is slow. Usually there will be some new technology that will cause damage or death, there will be an outcry, there will be an investigation," said the Tesla CEO. "Years will pass, there will be some insight committee, then rule making and oversight and eventually regulations. This all takes many years. This is the normal course of things." Musk used the example that it took ten years for seatbelts to become required, even though the number of deaths were obvious. He says this time frame doesn't work for AI. "We can't wait ten years to the point where something is dangerous to do something about AI. It will be too late," said Musk.

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  1. Elon Musk is a nutjob by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Informative

    But he's a billionaire so it's called "eccentric". Sort of like Elizabeth Holmes and her fraud.

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  2. Re:And smoked pot by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, smoking weed in California is not legal; the State has an official policy of not enforcing Federal pot laws, so you won't get the local or State police to stop you, but it is still a Federally banned act and thus still illegal.

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  3. Re:Musk is just high... by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the record:

      * The whole sequence started out with Musk asking, "Is that a joint?" Just like your average hardcore pothead who doesn't know what a joint looks like, right?

      * After a reminder that it's legal in California, Musk hesitantly takes it, examines it, then takes a tiny puff, then shakes his head no.

      * Comments start filling up the Youtube thread from actual pot smokers complaining:
    OZGUN ST-PIERRE: Dudeeee wtf he didn’t inhale
    tg300050 he didnt inhale
    Samuel Gobrecht +OZGUN ST-PIERRE some people just dont like how it makes them feel
        Obviously he doesn't know how to smoke
    NO T H O T S NOOOO ****ING WAY
    Geo Hurtado Inhale!!!!

      * Topic changes back to cars.

      * Later, topic changes back to pot. The conversation is, to quote:

    Joe: Is that bad for you? It's legal. It's government approved.
    Musk: I'm not a regular smoker of weed.
    Joe: How often do you smoke it?
    Musk: Almost never.
    Joe: Mm.
    Musk: I mean, I don't actually notice any effect.
    (topic detours to Buddhist monks taking acid, before getting back on the topic of weed)
    Musk: You know... I know a lot of people like weed... and that's fine. But I don't find that it's very good for productivity.
    Joe: For you.
    Musk: Not for me.
    Joe: Yeah, I would imagine that for someone like you it's not. For someone like you, it'd be more like a cup of coffee.
    Musk: Actually it's more like the opposite of a cup of coffee. Like a cup of coffee in reverse.
    Joe: Weed is?
    Musk: Yeah.
    Joe: No, I was saying you would like more, more what would be beneficial to you would be like coffee.
    Musk: I like to get things done, I like to be useful. That's one of the hardest things to do.

    OMG, pillory him!

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  4. Re:Sure, I'll defend the guy too..... by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Um no, he first called him a pedophile, THEN he waited a week, then apologized, then last week he suddenly started calling him a "child rapist". That isn't normal. It wasn't a one time thing. You fanboys are like Trump apologists. Completely nuts. You have any excuse for bad behavior. You are right about one thing: he has no knowledge of engineering or anything.