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Creator of TempleOS, Terry Davis, Has Passed Away (osnews.com)
OSNews reports:
Terrence Andrew Davis, sole creator and developer of TempleOS (née LoseThos), has passed away at age 48. Davis suffered from mental illness -- schizophrenia -- which had a severe impact on his life. He claimed he created his operating system after having spoken with and receiving instructions from god, and he was a controversial figure, also here on OSNews, for his incomprehensible rants and abrasive style towards OSNews readers and staff. We eventually had to ban him, but our then-editor Kroc Kamen worked with him in 2010 to publish an article about his operating system despite his ban.... I hope he found peace -- wherever he may be.
Davis spent 10 years building "an operating system to talk to God," according to a 2014 profile in Motherboard, which described its welcome screen as "a riot of 16-color, scrolling, blinking text" resembling early DOS-based GUIs. (Wikipedia describes its interface as "a mixture of DOS and Turbo C.") To build his operating system, Terry wrote 121,176 lines of code.
An anonymous reader writes: Davis learned assembly language on a Commodore 64 before he'd graduated from high school. He eventually got a master's degree in electrical engineering from Arizona State University, and as an undergrad he worked briefly at Ticketmaster, programming operating systems. His later life included time in mental hospitals and some homelessness, as well as living at home with his parents after his schizophrenia was diagnosed and treated.
In 2014 Motherboard pieced together his lifestyle from emailed updates Terry sent from his Ubuntu desktop. They concluded he was living on disability, and spent most of his time coding, surfing the web, "or using the output from the National Institute of Standards and Technology randomness beacon to talk to God -- he posts the results on his webpage as 'Terry Davis' Rants.'" Their article describes him as "God's lonely programmer," saying Davis "offered the world a temple to a God who speaks only to him, and is still waiting for everyone else to listen."
Terry's death was confirmed by a local Oregon newspaper, and the official web site for TempleOS now also includes this death notice:
In the wake of Terry A. Davis' passing his family has requested supporters of his donate to "organizations working to ease the pain and suffering caused by mental illness" such as
Davis spent 10 years building "an operating system to talk to God," according to a 2014 profile in Motherboard, which described its welcome screen as "a riot of 16-color, scrolling, blinking text" resembling early DOS-based GUIs. (Wikipedia describes its interface as "a mixture of DOS and Turbo C.") To build his operating system, Terry wrote 121,176 lines of code.
An anonymous reader writes: Davis learned assembly language on a Commodore 64 before he'd graduated from high school. He eventually got a master's degree in electrical engineering from Arizona State University, and as an undergrad he worked briefly at Ticketmaster, programming operating systems. His later life included time in mental hospitals and some homelessness, as well as living at home with his parents after his schizophrenia was diagnosed and treated.
In 2014 Motherboard pieced together his lifestyle from emailed updates Terry sent from his Ubuntu desktop. They concluded he was living on disability, and spent most of his time coding, surfing the web, "or using the output from the National Institute of Standards and Technology randomness beacon to talk to God -- he posts the results on his webpage as 'Terry Davis' Rants.'" Their article describes him as "God's lonely programmer," saying Davis "offered the world a temple to a God who speaks only to him, and is still waiting for everyone else to listen."
Terry's death was confirmed by a local Oregon newspaper, and the official web site for TempleOS now also includes this death notice:
In the wake of Terry A. Davis' passing his family has requested supporters of his donate to "organizations working to ease the pain and suffering caused by mental illness" such as
That's French for "born", and specifically the female form. Why would you write that? That's to indicate the maiden name of a person, or more rarely when a pseudonym is used.... I don't think a OS is birthed.
Don't anthropomorphize computers, they hate it when you do that.
Inheritance is the sincerest form of nepotism.
Because people stop treating ill people like ill people, as soon as that illness contains some not nice behavior. Even if it clearly is caused by the illness.
And so they ice him out and stop giving him the help he needs, until he dies.
Even though that dynamic is understandable, in my book, it is denial of assistance. A crime nearly as great as doing the killing oneself.
Religious people, from suicide bombers in the middle east to child rapists in the Vatican to the average superstitious schizophrenic like this guy, need treatment! Not even more hate. Hate is what caused their illness to begin with.
But hey... we're the kind of people who murder murderers, and then act surprised if other people learn form us, that murder is all-right, if you got an excuse the public thinks is valid. Ditto for hate, torture, etc.
We're still in the deepest depths of the dark ages. At least, until the ravaging religious epidemics are cured (without hurting even a single person), and we can cure and re-integrate even mass-murdering child rapists. Or even ... *gasp* ... prevent them from becoming that way.
I mean the idea of acting that way, is the fundament of pretty much every religion I know of. For a reason.
Iâ(TM)m not anywhere near my laptop so I canâ(TM)t load it into a VM, so for now I just want to ask if any of you have tried loading it up and what your experience was? I see itâ(TM)s only 16MB, so Iâ(TM)m guessing it wasnâ(TM)t all that far along or perhaps talking to god can be done efficiently. Anybody?
Paul Lenhart writes words!
The thing is, ordinary people are just as crazy. There's just more of them.
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It's also English for "originally called". Since the rest of the text is in English, I'll assume the author chose to use the English definition for the word.
I am aware English "stole" the word from French. French stole many words from Latin and corrupted their meanings, too.
If I remember correctly, his OS was written completely from scratch and had a few interesting ideas:
1) All code is compiled JIT, this means that C looks just like a scripting language and you can always break into a debugger.
2) He made his own dialect of C called HolyC, which was a version of C with small fixes to make it more low-level and accurate.
3) If I remember correctly symbol tables were global, so that processes could access each other's variables by names, thus allowing libraries to simply work by changing global variables.
I am sure that somewhere, in his code, there's something to learn from.
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
I have an uncle (by marriage) that is clinically schizophrenic. He's similar in his rantings, thinks the government is controlling him, voices talking to him and telling him to what do, etc.
The thing is, he knows he's nuts, and he makes fun of himself for it. It's pretty amusing to be around him when he starts going on about aliens and government mind control, while also creepy as he talks about the voices controlling him, and then laughs his ass off when he realizes how nuts he sounds.
He doesn't take medication, but he smokes plenty of pot, and seems to have his condition more-or-less under control.
While there are many problems with religion, I wonder if modern secularism really offers anything better. Sure, these idiots believe in god, but we believe in 60 genders and in infinite growth. They burn innocent women and rape children, but we cause global warming that will kill much more people in the end, not to mention all the shit we enabled in africa and china just to get cheaper products. They repsect community and friendships, while we... sit alone behind our screen, drenching ourselves in consumerism and pills, trying to forget.
Are you sure that the secular west managed to do something better? Hell, even Newton and Einstein were partially religious, and not rabid hateful atheists.
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
According to wikipedia:
On the evening of 11th of August 2018, Terry was walking alongside some railroad tracks in the city of The Dalles, when he was accidentally struck by a Union Pacific train coming from behind.
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
Never Hurd of this operating system, but it could open Windows to the mind of this individual who has made himself like the Unix of yore working practically NonStop on this GEM.
Alas, his operating system wasn't anyone's Pick.
I liked the idea of having a system compiler fast enough to serve as a JIT-scripting engine.
Then you most certainly like Oberon.
Ezekiel 23:20
We used to prank call Terry Davis sometimes, he used to have some good insights and he could carry on a conversation for a while until he would suddenly "switch gears" and hang up the phone. One time, we even had him and Richard Stallman speak to eachother for a moment.
And he thought Linus Torvalds was a noob because he never wrote his own compiler.
Do you know the cause of death because I'm not seeing it. For all we know, he died of a heart attack
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
I followed him from time to time. Some of his rants during his schizophrenic periods were weird, to say the least. Then again, not many people develop a programming language on their own and then use it to program a complete graphical operating system that runs on bare metal with it. It's sad that his schizophrenia wasn't treated earlier and more effectively.
They glow in the Dark
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He was a simple man.
At the time terry was wondering around in 'murica, 'murica didn't have time to take care of Terries, they focused on dreamers, blacks, feminists, gays and hilary.
A guy has thousands of people documenting his condition, reporting in where he is(which he did also by himself), and so on... yet the public services never gave a shit.
when did 'murica stopped caring about Americans?
It may be because I'm not a native English speaker, but in all my years reading and speaking English with friends all over the planet I have never seen the word 'née' used before.
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It may be because I'm not a native English speaker, but in all my years reading and speaking English with friends all over the planet I have never seen the word 'née' used before.
I'm a native English speaker and I've seen it used plenty of times.
I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
It's a bit old-fashioned but still in use.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
He didn't "pass away". He *died* due to negligence
How do you know what he died of?
According to Wikipedia, he hit by a train in an accident.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
TempleOS is a fascinating project. It is completely different from everything we currently have, and in some interesting ways.
Notably, the UI, shell, document format, organization structure, and IDE are all one and the same. Your shell is a text editor where you can embed drawings and link them to other documents, and your documents can be compiled and run with a built-in JIT compiler that also provides its own debug environment.
It's the opposite paradigm to the Unix "everything is a string" philosophy, and also antithetical to Windows' notion of "everything is a GUI". It's more "everything is connected".
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
omfg no. It means exactly what it means in French. And there are two words, née and né, just like there are two words fiancé and fiancée depending on whether the person is a man or a woman. when you misuse words you just look stupid.
iirc, mental health centers were cut back significantly under Reagan and no one's bothered to do much about it since then. that's one possible answer, though i'd say that a more accurate answer would be that we never really did.
"They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
to elaborate slightly, i don't know how great those mental health centers were on average even when they did exist. there have certainly been horror stories; i just don't know whether they are representative. it's quite possible that they were just places to send humans to rot like garbage out of sight, and we decided not to waste the money on that since they could rot on the street just as well. i don't know.
"They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
Religion is not the root of all evil
Sure it is. Before religion, was there even a concept of 'evil'? I bet you that religion was what invented the concept of evil when creation myths were being concocted ten thousand years ago.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Strangely, English got the female "naive" but not the male "naif." That also makes people look stupid when you know French.
Notably, the UI, shell, document format, organization structure, and IDE are all one and the same. Your shell is a text editor where you can embed drawings and link them to other documents, and your documents can be compiled and run with a built-in JIT compiler that also provides its own debug environment.
This, not surprisingly, sounds Commodore 64-ish. For the younger folks, if you turn on a Commodore 64, within 3 seconds you have an OS prompt. From that prompt, you can interact with the OS via commands, including directly viewing/editing contents of registers and memory. You can interact with disk drives, or any other hardware connected to the machine, for that matter. And you can load and execute (and even edit certain) applications. Or, you can just start typing/adding BASIC language lines to the built-in BASIC interpreter. It's not a bad paradigm to mimic, really.
He's running over glow in the darks forever now. He hit them with his car, they hit him with a train.
Schizophrenia is unlikely to be even one disease, and may be a set of common or overlapping symptoms for something like seven separate illnesses. Debate and research continues.
Well many people already pointed their favourite OS in response to your post but the idea of having the OS and the IDE in the same project is literally one of the catchphrase of Pharo, itself inspired from Smalltalk... From there it links to Xerox and other great ideas.
Technically French is Latin, or rather a descendant language of the Vulgar Latin spoken on Rome's Gaulish provinces. It adopted some words of Celtic and Germanic origin, but is a Romance language like Spanish, Italian, Romanian, Gallacian and Portuguese. It didn't borrow Latin words, it was Latin, with about 1500 years of linguistic evolution.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
This reminds me of a comment I made a long time ago here.. My tongue was firmly in my cheek of course; but there's also a "funny because it's true" angle. It really is fascinating. A man with a pathological mind taking something to its pathological conclusion?
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
He isn’t; you are just entirely clueless. Trains are sneaky. https://www.popularmechanics.c...
Notably, the UI, shell, document format, organization structure, and IDE are all one and the same. Your shell is a text editor where you can embed drawings and link them to other documents, and your documents can be compiled and run with a built-in JIT compiler that also provides its own debug environment.
So nothing new then?
Ezekiel 23:20
How did this bigoted shit get marked as insightful?
Mental health services were cut back in the 80s and everyone suffered. Minorities with mental health issues got screwed just as much as white people with mental health issues.
Technically French is Latin, or rather a descendant language of the Vulgar Latin spoken on Rome's Gaulish provinces. It adopted some words of Celtic and Germanic origin, but is a Romance language like Spanish, Italian, Romanian, Gallacian and Portuguese. It didn't borrow Latin words, it was Latin, with about 1500 years of linguistic evolution.
If French is Latin because parts of it were ONCE Latin, then it, (and all other Romance languages, Germanic languages, indeed, most languages spoken in Europe and Asia today,) are Proto-Indo-European, the ancestor language of them all, except perhaps languages of the Natives of Turtle Island, (aka North America) and other extreme isolates.
Not to get all argumentative, but the idea that a language is identical with, and indistinguishable from its parent language(s) and could, or worse, SHOULD (or even more absurdly, MUST) be called by the same name as its ancestor because it incorporates elements thereof, is specious and makes discussions of etymology impossible, because SOMEONE keeps insisting that all languages are the same, which is silliness. Also, there's more to a language than just vocabulary; construction, syntax, rules, etc., all play a part, and anyone who has ever studied more than one language, especially when the languages aren't extremely closely related, knows that there's a LOT more to learning a different language than learning the vocabulary. How words are assembled to express ideas varries considerably from one language to another. (This is why a verbatim translation is usually linguistically wrong, unless a sentence or fragment is extremely short and simple.)
Moreover, since languages change over time, a language can be said to descend from any of the earlier versions of the same language even if there has been no major change to the language resulting from influx or infusions due to the people speaking one language being conquered by those who speak another, (which is how all the Arabic that ends up being in modern Spanish got there, resulting in somewhere around 7% of Spanish being Arabic in origin,) due to internal changes over time in usage, vowel or consonant drift, changes in meaning, diversion, conversion, etc., etc., etc., you can't even really call a language the same thing as even a relatively recent version of itself, without anything being added from without. Modern Vernacular English of today has changed enough in even the last couple of centuries that it has at least become a different dialect, and if you compare Modern English, (even proper, rather than vernacular,) with Middle English or Old English, you'll find them completely different languages, even though all have the word "English" in the name. Yes, there's OFTEN commonality, though sometimes that's coincidental due to similar origins of words. For example, the word for mother, mom, or mama has an "m" sound somewhere in it, usually at/near the beginning in very nearly every human language. Hmm... I wonder why?
I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't know French, or Latin, let alone both, especially if you think they're the same language.
To linguists, the most basic measure of whether any two people are speaking the same language is whether they are mutually intelligible. Although you might be able to get by speaking one language amidst a group of people who speak only the other, able to communicate basic ideas and requests, such as, "I'm unwell, I need a doctor," or "where is the bathroom?" or "this is delicious, thanks!" when you start getting deep into a conversation and need to use advanced concepts for which simple words fall short, you will likely find the languages have diverged sufficiently for them to be mutually UNINTELLIGIBLE. I'll give you an example. Understanding that machine translation is less reliable the more esoteric, complicated, or sophisticated the ideas you try to encapsulate with words are, I'm going to use Google Translate here, and save you all the trouble.
The following paragrap
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
It's the kind of thing you see in an encyclopedia.
e.g. from Encyclopedia Britannica
> Hillary Clinton, in full Hillary Rodham Clinton, née Hillary Diane Rodham, (born October 26, 1947, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.)
This lets you know what she was originally named.
I ran a copy up in a virtual machine and it worked without an issue. I went through some of the programs and tried to get used to the cli it uses IIRC. One of my colleagues gave it a go as well a few weeks ago.
I might go back and look at it again, you never know what jewels lie in there from such dedicated creation.
R.I.P Terry, thank you for something interesting.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
You might get a kick out of this lecture by Bret Victor titled The Future of Programming where he looks back at a lot of early ideas in computing.
Negative. The ACLU sued to have the asylums shut down on the basis that incarcerating people who committed no crime was immoral. They won. Reagan closed the doors on the now-empty facilities. And somehow got the blame for setting people free who were innocent. As long as they could lift spoon to mouth to feed themselves, they were good to go according to the ACLU.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
One guy carries generations of taxes on his back, can't have even the basic health care for his condition and is treated like a criminal,
vs some random person jumping from country to country and ending up in the one that offers him the best conditions.
Terry didn't do country-shopping. He stayed home, yet he lived like an exiled.
If you want to call it bigotry, call it that way, if you want to call me racist, please do... I am. /g/ and /pol/.
This doesn't negate the fact that nobody fucking cared about terry, because terry didn't align with the mentality the media and the leftists try to create. That's why he was living in a van and later on in the streets, he had his benefits denied and lived off of donations mainly from people who visited reddit and
Your fellow citizen dies like a dog in the streets and your are taking care of leeches.
Reagan closed them instead of reforming them because the goal was to abandon the insane for monetary reasons, and certainly not for the purpose of helping anyone but the wealthy.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
yet the public services never gave a shit.
The summary stated that he was living on disability, which I'm assuming is funded from Social Security.
If you post as Anonymous Coward, don't expect a reply.
That's what I think, too. All people are crazy in some way, just more or less crazy. OTOH, what is normal? How does one define what's normal? Normal was different 10000 years ago, 2000 years ago, 100 years ago, or 20 years ago. I said 20 years ago on purpose, because at the time having a mobile phone wasn't regarded as not normal. I don't use a mobile phone, so I'm regarded as being not normal these days. I'm not claiming I am normal, though. :)
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
It's like you read the first sentence of my post, but not the rest.
The point was that unlike, say, English, which did absorb quite a bit of Latin vocabulary via Norman French, French didn't "absorb" Latin syntax and vocabulary, it is a descendant of Latin. It is what Latin came to be in the former Gaulish provinces after about six or seven hundred years of linguistic evolution. That isn't the same as the propensity of Germanic languages to hoover up words.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
It's like you read the first sentence of my post, but not the rest.
It's like you read the first sentence of my post, but not the rest. Don't worry about it though.
We'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
If I could vote, I'd say we should strip off the eighth bit on all char data posted to the site.\
interesting. since this is a political topic, i'll have to ask for references.
"They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
Your mom's potting shed has to be kinda cramped, you punk.
Thanks for this, it's a very interesting lecture. The future is in the past !