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Someone With an iMac, iPhone, and iPad Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters (9to5mac.com)

According to reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's next iPad Pro will be switching from the Lightning Port to USB-C for the first time. It will also ship with a new 18W USB-C charger. 9to5Mac reports: While Kuo's memo mentions both the new iPad Pro with USB-C (wow) and MacBook with Touch ID, it's still unclear at this point if we'll see the iPad and Mac on stage at Wednesday's event, or if the September 12 date will be dedicated to iPhone and Apple Watch. That would be a massive change for an iOS device but one that could improve the iPad accessory ecosystem -- and be a boon for productivity. Kuo's memo does not suggest that this is simply a change from USB-A Lightning to USB-C Lightning but instead an actual port change on the iPad itself. Daring Fireball's John Gruber notes that if Kuo is correct, "someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters." That takes courage, Apple...

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  1. It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters... by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.

  2. Two adapters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Macbooks still have headphone ports, don't need three adapters. Someone can't count.

    1. Re:Two adapters? by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      They mean Macs would have a headphone port, iPhones would need a lightning adaptor and iPads would need a USB-C adaptor. Of course, since all Macbooks also come with USB-C you're still down to two pairs of headphones. But Apple Haters gotta hate.

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  3. If only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If only there were a standard headphone connector that worked everywhere. Some standard that had already been used and refined over time. Something simple. Something that was robust. Something that already had wide spread adoption.

    1. Re:If only by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Informative

      3.5mm jacks can be made waterproof, just seal around the pins and leave the "hole" itself exposed to water.

    2. Re:If only by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2
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    3. Re:If only by stooo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      iPhone isn't a standard though - they aren't supported by 3.5mm jacks.

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  4. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They want your phones to only play approved content *(for their copyright monopoly side business) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

  5. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, look on the bright side - we can have the courage to deal with worse audio quality and increased latency for worse audio/video syncing...

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  6. What's the point? by Iwastheone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just to justify more expensive crap that is not needed?? WTF? Direct connections have worked for over 80 years, now some tech companies insist we all are 'bettered' with expensive must have peripherals that are inferior, more costly, and last about 6 hours while depleting the sources battery too? Bluetooth has always been a downgrade in listening quality, and also a vector attack. Who wants this, except for 3 letter agencies to gain access to our devices and ignorant young fools who do not realize the implications? Tech was supposed to make our lives better. Instead it's used to invade our privacy. My lifes warranty is about up anyway, I do weep for the future generations. They have no idea what they're giving up in exchange for the 'cool factor'.

    1. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Android owners voted Google's Pixel off the island mainly because of the price but also partly because of the lack of headphone jack. Samsung was smart enough to notice the blowback and include it for S9. Apple relies on mind control instead, which is apparently not too hard for the kind of fan they attract, so a bunch of them will gloss over that deficiency and put a pair of overpriced Beats phones on their credit card, most probably near its melting point. Life with Apple. Life with a pocketful of dongles.

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  7. Re:Or by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.

    and different problems introduced.

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  8. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, because if there is anything that "just works" it's Bluetooth.

  9. Re:Terrible Title... by registrations_suck · · Score: 2

    As long as Apple's stock price continues to rise, they could market shit sandwiches as far as I am concerned.

    Eat up!!

  10. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by Pseudonym · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.

    Anyone who thinks this is as good idea doesn't have kids who regularly lose, break, and launder small items.

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  11. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    I think he means the fact that it becomes another thing to charge. Phones, and because they need to be made thin thin, a few battery packs we need to charge almost every night. Just got a new game console and to my dismay, now even game controllers charge via USB. I need a freaking 20 port USB hub as it is. Seeing as my corded headphones work just fine I don't need that extra thing to charge. Not to mention, all these things now all have finite lifetimes limited to the number of times you can charge the battery.

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  12. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?

    Many people. Your headphones will long outlast your gadgets and superior audio quality doesn't come cheap. BTW, it's way easier to tell the difference between great and crap audio with headphones than it is with speakers. Partly because room acoustics don't come into it.

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  13. Re:Ever heard of bluetooth you fucking chuds? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    and don't need to be separately powered

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  14. Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You should try a 21st century bluetooth headset one day. Luddite.

    .

    You should try having all your little typing fingers smashed with a 3 pound steel hammer.

    Insulting people you don't know could win you that prize.

  15. Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am a licensed amateur radio operator -- extra class. Radiation doesn't have to be ionizing (as in gamma rays and X-rays) to be harmful. Run-of-the-mill EMR (electromagnetic radiation) can cause all kinds of problems.

    If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?

    Having a small, low-power EMR transmitter continually broadcasting from the same spot on your head is not too smart, as well.

    Folks, never trust Apple fan boys when they try to argue technical matters, especially if such matters involve health consequences.

  16. It just works. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 2

    Oh wait, it doesn't.

    It is amazing how Apple is squandering their design lead that Jobs left them.

    Perhaps it is just my opinion, but I think that this obsession with adapters is going to be the end of them.

    I don't know how you admit that "courage" was wrong and add the 3.5 mm jack back in, but they need to find a way. Maybe "courage" will work for that design reversion too.

  17. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by David_Hart · · Score: 2

    ...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.

    Bluetooth, while getting better, isn't as good as wired when it comes to sound quality. Plus there is the cost.

    I keep asking whether Bluetooth will ever be able to achieve CD audio quality? I keep coming up with "No" as the answer due to the technology limitations. I would love to be able to just set my phone in the car, automatically connect wireless, and get the same quality that I get with a direct connection. But it sounds worse than satellite radio...

    So, yeah, multiple wired adapters for different devices....

  18. Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters by houghi · · Score: 2

    On top of worse battery life.

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  19. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Your headphones won't outlast your gadgets if they come with proprietary audio codecs and connectors. That's probably the idea - deprecate "old" tech to make people upgrade to get the latest Bluetooth codec.

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  20. Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Bluetooth audio is shit unless you have at least AptX and ideally AptX HD. So there are levels of compatibility.

    Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.

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  21. Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?

    You must have missed the other part of the post you're responding to:

    >> It's non ionizing radiation and its down in mW. (emphasis mine)

    It won't cause damage by ionisation, and it won't cause damage by excessive heating. The only way a bluetooth radio will cause you any harm is when pointed at you and accelerated to sufficient velocity. Oh, don't get me wrong, I find Apple's decision to remove a time-tested and universal connector utterly fucking idiotic and I'd never use any of their stuff, but you're barking up the wrong tree here.

  22. Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters by registrations_suck · · Score: 2

    I gotta tell ya, someone hacking into my Bluetooth connection is about as worrisome to me me as catching my dick in Christy Brinkley's pants zipper.