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Someone With an iMac, iPhone, and iPad Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters (9to5mac.com)
According to reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's next iPad Pro will be switching from the Lightning Port to USB-C for the first time. It will also ship with a new 18W USB-C charger. 9to5Mac reports: While Kuo's memo mentions both the new iPad Pro with USB-C (wow) and MacBook with Touch ID, it's still unclear at this point if we'll see the iPad and Mac on stage at Wednesday's event, or if the September 12 date will be dedicated to iPhone and Apple Watch. That would be a massive change for an iOS device but one that could improve the iPad accessory ecosystem -- and be a boon for productivity. Kuo's memo does not suggest that this is simply a change from USB-A Lightning to USB-C Lightning but instead an actual port change on the iPad itself. Daring Fireball's John Gruber notes that if Kuo is correct, "someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters." That takes courage, Apple...
...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
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Macbooks still have headphone ports, don't need three adapters. Someone can't count.
If only there were a standard headphone connector that worked everywhere. Some standard that had already been used and refined over time. Something simple. Something that was robust. Something that already had wide spread adoption.
...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
Yep, everyone's brain needs more radio transmissions going through it. The closer the better.
Am I the only one that thinks, "Someone with an iMac, iPhone, and iPad..." sounds like the beginning of a bartender joke?
You are welcome on my lawn.
What Macbook requires a headphone adapter?
It's non ionizing radiation and its down in mW. It's less dangerous to you than simply going outside and basking in the 93M mile glow of the largest fusion reactor in our solar system.
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Well, look on the bright side - we can have the courage to deal with worse audio quality and increased latency for worse audio/video syncing...
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Just to justify more expensive crap that is not needed?? WTF? Direct connections have worked for over 80 years, now some tech companies insist we all are 'bettered' with expensive must have peripherals that are inferior, more costly, and last about 6 hours while depleting the sources battery too? Bluetooth has always been a downgrade in listening quality, and also a vector attack. Who wants this, except for 3 letter agencies to gain access to our devices and ignorant young fools who do not realize the implications? Tech was supposed to make our lives better. Instead it's used to invade our privacy. My lifes warranty is about up anyway, I do weep for the future generations. They have no idea what they're giving up in exchange for the 'cool factor'.
The reference to iMac it dishonest in my opinion: it is much more power hungry, and you do not support it with a handled device's power supply.
One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
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NO, the problems(s) are NOT SOLVED.
Bluetooth headphones mean one more set of batteries to keep track of, and latency issues, and poor audio quality. These are real issues and they are deal-breakers for many of us.
Just because you choose to ignore problems doesn't mean the problems don't exist, nor does it mean the problems don't matter to others.
You should try having some empathy for other humans, instead of being so self-absorbed.
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Yeah, because if there is anything that "just works" it's Bluetooth.
Corrected headline should read:
"Someone With an iMac, iPhone, iPad AND WIRED HEADPHONES Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters"
How many people is that anymore?
I have had headphone adaptors since the iPhone 7 that I have only used once, and that was shortly after I got the first phone that dropped the jack - since that time I have not used them at all. I moved on to Bluetooth headphones.
But all of this assumes that the new iPad will use USB-C. I'm mixed on that, on the one hand I would rather like everything to go to one connector, and USB-C seems like a good candidate - I like that it can be plugged in either way, and the connector is pretty small.
On the other hand I still like the lightning connector better. It seems way less flimsy and more solid. I like that I can see the pins to clean.
So who knows which way Apple will go? But either way most modern headphone users will not be impacted.
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Exactly. All three devices are perfectly compatible with Bluetooth headphones. No adapters required.
But if one insists on using wired headphones, one can simply either not update some of their stuff, or they can update all of their stuff.
As long as Apple's stock price continues to rise, they could market shit sandwiches as far as I am concerned.
Eat up!!
TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
Anyone who thinks this is as good idea doesn't have kids who regularly lose, break, and launder small items.
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another set of batteries to deal with
I agree with almost everything you say, but the chance that these electro-tchotchkes have batteries that a user can replace is almost, but not quite, zero.
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Kinda. Good noise-cancelling headphones (mine are B&O, have also used Bose and it's a similar story) come with Bluetooth, 3.5mm, USB (for both audio and charging), and airplane adapters.
Mind you, never use them while commuting. On public transport, good ol' $10 earbuds are far superior.
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You want to have to keep another set of batteries charged just to use headphones??
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I think he means the fact that it becomes another thing to charge. Phones, and because they need to be made thin thin, a few battery packs we need to charge almost every night. Just got a new game console and to my dismay, now even game controllers charge via USB. I need a freaking 20 port USB hub as it is. Seeing as my corded headphones work just fine I don't need that extra thing to charge. Not to mention, all these things now all have finite lifetimes limited to the number of times you can charge the battery.
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Maybe some people don't want to spend 80+$ on headphones that cost 20$ for wired version.
Audiophiles.
Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?
Many people. Your headphones will long outlast your gadgets and superior audio quality doesn't come cheap. BTW, it's way easier to tell the difference between great and crap audio with headphones than it is with speakers. Partly because room acoustics don't come into it.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
If they change the "lightning" port, how do you don't need an adapter - iow, how do you charge with bluetooth?
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How do you charge with BT?
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and don't need to be separately powered
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
BT: sound quality, one more thing to charge ....
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Samsung phones are even IP68 which better than IP67 which means the water resistance should be better.
One Android phone with headphone jack, there, problem solved.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
But they make the coolest adapters!
You should try a 21st century bluetooth headset one day. Luddite.
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You should try having all your little typing fingers smashed with a 3 pound steel hammer.
Insulting people you don't know could win you that prize.
In those cases the water/dust resistance is only when those ports aren't in use.
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I am a licensed amateur radio operator -- extra class. Radiation doesn't have to be ionizing (as in gamma rays and X-rays) to be harmful. Run-of-the-mill EMR (electromagnetic radiation) can cause all kinds of problems.
If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?
Having a small, low-power EMR transmitter continually broadcasting from the same spot on your head is not too smart, as well.
Folks, never trust Apple fan boys when they try to argue technical matters, especially if such matters involve health consequences.
"someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters."
That is incorrect. They would need a set of headphones with a normal 3.5 jack (Mac), and two adapters (iPhone, iPad).
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Yeah, because Samsung hasn't changed the charging plug at all over the last fifteen years that they use with their phones. And Apple wasn't the first to drop the 3.5 jack, nor were they the last.
Oh wait, it doesn't.
It is amazing how Apple is squandering their design lead that Jobs left them.
Perhaps it is just my opinion, but I think that this obsession with adapters is going to be the end of them.
I don't know how you admit that "courage" was wrong and add the 3.5 mm jack back in, but they need to find a way. Maybe "courage" will work for that design reversion too.
The main problem with Bluetooth is latency. If you're watching a TV show or something, the latency with some Bluetooth hardware is enough to be vomit-inducing, because the audio lags so far behind the video. Until Apple figures out how to get their Bluetooth stack to accurately report latency all the way up the stack to apps, Bluetooth will continue to suck.
Compounding this is the fact that Bluetooth isn't one standard, but rather a pile of competing standards. Android devices typically support aptX from Qualcomm, but Apple doesn't want to pay to license that, so they use their own, incompatible low-latency standard based on AAC (which they were already licensing for iTunes audio playback, and thus probably doesn't cost them anything). Although it is possible for Bluetooth devices to support both formats, there is a licensing cost incurred when you do so, and as a result, a decent percentage of devices support only one format or the other.
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We’ll know tomorrow for sure, but it could be that the ipad port stays in lightning form and that the charger has a USBC connector. Wouldn’t seem unreasonable to me.
...and no one thought to point out that iPads have headphone jacks, making all of this moot? That quote about needing three adapters was based on what would happen if Apple were to remove the headphone jack from the iPad, but that’s not how things are now. But hey, you won’t get an outcry from that, let’s omit the preceding line from the quote so that we can take it out of context and stir up a tempest in a teacup.
What was actually said was:
But if the rumors are true that this year’s iPad Pros don’t have headphone jacks, this doesn’t make much sense at all. This would mean someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters.
...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
Bluetooth, while getting better, isn't as good as wired when it comes to sound quality. Plus there is the cost.
I keep asking whether Bluetooth will ever be able to achieve CD audio quality? I keep coming up with "No" as the answer due to the technology limitations. I would love to be able to just set my phone in the car, automatically connect wireless, and get the same quality that I get with a direct connection. But it sounds worse than satellite radio...
So, yeah, multiple wired adapters for different devices....
My car has no Bluetooth, so that's a non-starter.
I really love needing to charge several extra things, like headphones. I also need to charge the phone sooner, because it uses extra power and that is great as well. /sarcasm.
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To be fair, these are Apple users. They don't want to spend $20 for something that if they can spend the extra $60 on something cooler.
On top of worse battery life.
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What is this 2004? You can always count on slashdot for shitty boomer opinions.
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Man, you seem super tough and manly.
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Not really no. but medium tier attempt at bait.
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Your headphones won't outlast your gadgets if they come with proprietary audio codecs and connectors. That's probably the idea - deprecate "old" tech to make people upgrade to get the latest Bluetooth codec.
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Bluetooth audio is shit unless you have at least AptX and ideally AptX HD. So there are levels of compatibility.
Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.
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One has to know a thing or two about radiation to get an extra class license.
> If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?
You must have missed the other part of the post you're responding to:
>> It's non ionizing radiation and its down in mW. (emphasis mine)
It won't cause damage by ionisation, and it won't cause damage by excessive heating. The only way a bluetooth radio will cause you any harm is when pointed at you and accelerated to sufficient velocity. Oh, don't get me wrong, I find Apple's decision to remove a time-tested and universal connector utterly fucking idiotic and I'd never use any of their stuff, but you're barking up the wrong tree here.
Bluetooth audio is shit unless you have at least AptX and ideally AptX HD. So there are levels of compatibility.
Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.
The Bluetooth unit in my iPhone can handle being connected to two devices at once. I usually just leave my bluetooth earbuds connected when I get into my car, the car's bluetooth unit connects just fine and the phone switches to the new output automatically. The only caveat here is getting earbuds with at least 8 hour battery life. As for audio quality I always get a chuckle out of people that complain about Bluetooth audio quality being shit, then pull out a set of $10 chorded earbuds and go about their business while enjoying the near live concert quality audio you get from a pair of cheap ass Sony earbuds. To get any kind of worthwhile audio experience you need to be wearing either quite high end earbuds or ear enclosing headphones that are designed to exclude external sound interference and cost very significantly more than $10.
...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
It is, but go ahead and pay more for an inferior product. That's what apple really wants.
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
Yeah, plugging in a pair of Bluetooth headphones at the end of the day ... what an unbearable burden.
Yes. Designated listening position(s)*, dampening materials on the correct locations to create a close to perfect acoustic room. The door naturally have to be closed, moving around verboten as would be moving, talking or burping. Combine with very expensive speakers expertly directed to the listening position and preferably a dedicated concrete room for the sub-woofer one can get good results. And don't forget the cables! Of course real golden ears use only virgin silver, ultra-pure and cryotreated with extra effort spent to find the optimal direction of the cable (metals are directional as all _real_ audiophiles know).
Or one could get a pair of good headphones that remove the complications of positioning, dampening, movement or even how to place cables. Heck one can even afford to spend some extra money on silver cables or magical stickers if one is so inclined.
(* multiple positions would make it obviously sub-optimal but a few so called "audiophiles" would allow such things)
So new Bluetoothâ(TM) headsets are magical? That's not my experience, they are still generally crap for general purpose audio. They work to some degree* sucking battery power and increasing latency to provide sub-optimal audio quality.
(* still not well. High-end Bluetooth headphone couldn't connect to multiple devices each supporting required or better specifications (audio codecs that were of course proprietary, base Bluetooth version, OS supporting Bluetooth and Bluetooth audio as verified with mono headset). It worked for the owner on the owners own device so that's good I guess)
Audiophiles.
Yeah but they aren't buying bluetooth.
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Who comes up with this stuff? Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?
Since when is a headphone anything other than a special purpose gadget? Also with phones topping the $1000 mark you can pretty much buy the second from the top model of headphones from any manufacturer now without incurring the wrath of your arbitrary anger.
I don't care about audio quality that much when listening on my phone because I listen as I'm walking down the street, with cars, people making noise etc.
Noise cancelling. Closed ear systems. Sound blocking plugs with drivers built-in.
There are many solutions to your problem often even with expensive headphones.
Mind you, never use them while commuting. On public transport, good ol' $10 earbuds are far superior.
Yeah because when in an environment with noise a far better solution is to blast your ears to hell trying to drown out the background with nasty garbage and leave your good sounding noise cancelling headphones at home.
Man I normally say this in jest, but in this case you literally are doing it wrong.
Do yourself a favour, get some nice sounding headphones, keep the B&Os for commutes, and throw the $10 earbuds in the bin and then set the bin on fire for good measure.
Here you go:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15475713?dopt=Abstract&holding=npg
This is just one study (there have been more both before and after this one). By the way, cell wavelength and bluetooth wavelengths are similar.
Pretty sure it came from Van Gogh University.
...and your phone, and your phone's backup battery charger, and your console controllers, and your laptop. ... And now your headphones.
Folks, never trust Apple fan boys when they try to argue technical matters, especially if such matters involve health consequences.
You were doing great, right up until here. Why the typical "Apple fan boy" bash? It adds absolutely nothing to your point, furthermore, it's not even clear if the OP even is an Apple fan boy.
To your point about microwaves; I'd expect a 1,200W bluetooth headset to cause all sorts of damage, ionizing or not.
Price, audio quality*, latency**, battery life, battery efficiency compared to wired headphones, selection of headphones etc. Lot to detest for the wise, but wires can be a PITA sometimes I admit.
(* playing music on many software/hardware combinations: lossy compressed audio -> decompression -> PCM audio -> lossy compression -> wireless transfer -> decompression -> PCM audio -> DAC/amplifier -> physical transducers. Observe that the two types of compression used are often using different algorithms+parameters shaving some quality out of the audio)
(** look at the above path and realize both decompression and compression adds latency with the wireless link adding some extra)
Apple wants you to ditch either headphones or iphones.
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Why not include lightning and USB-c on this device and only include a USB-c charger?
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Daring Fireball's John Gruber notes that if Kuo is correct, "someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters." That takes courage, Apple...
No. Just someone who buys a NEW Mac, iPhone AND iPad. I have all three of those, and I have ONE kind of headphone that I use with each, without an adapter, and that's a 1/8" 3 or 4-conductor minijack plug. My Mac has one, my iPad has one, and my iPhone, goshdarnit, has one. How'd I manage that? Simple. I categorically REFUSE to buy a phone without a headphone jack. I will go back and use a goddamned DUMB phone before I pay Apple for a defective-by-design piece of SHIT like the iPhone 7 or beyond, or whichever bullshit iPhones are missing their headphone jacks. I actually still have my old MP3 player, and I may just pull that out and dust it off, and use THAT... if I have to.
If Apple ever DOES produce a car, I wonder if they'll pull the same shit. You know, sell a car that interoperates with the iPhone, and is really cool but underpowered and overpriced and get a bunch of people to buy them, then "update" the thing with a new version that doesn't come with a fucking steering wheel, because they just bought a company that makes Bluetooth steering wheels, and they want to force you to pay extra just to get the same level of functionality you already had before, and offer you an "adapter" that would have to sit in your lap allowing you to use a wired steering wheel...
It's the kind of shit they'd do, honestly.
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Good! It's what all non apple fanbois have been saying for ever! Apple is finally embracing standardisation and this is all you have to say about it?? No one gives a fuck about having them having new dongles, especially the apple people as their shiny new POS will undoubtedly get upgraded before long for some reason or another and have the new "standard" connector anyway! This is apple finally moving in the right direction and the article just bitches about "Oh no! More dongles" - Don't like it? Don't buy Apple! FYI I hate all things apple bit this is a good move on their part. Finally! Still bring back the headphone jack though!
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I gotta tell ya, someone hacking into my Bluetooth connection is about as worrisome to me me as catching my dick in Christy Brinkley's pants zipper.
Bluetooth audio is shit .......
if I am so much of an audiophile that I can pretend that the sound quality difference between Bluetooth and a wired connection is going to significantly affect my listening enjoyment, then SURELY I'm spending a metric shitload on a good headset. If I've got THAT kind of cash, I can easily upgrade all my other hardware to ensure they all have the same connection, buy a shitload of dongles so that I don't have to give a fuck about dongles, or simply NOT upgrade my other hardware to the extent that I have a bunch of different kinds of connections. Besides...if I'm that much of an audio nerd, I'll be listening to some vacuum tube based record player from the 60s anyway.
Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.
That's certainly not true. On a daily basis, I use my phone to connect to my Schuberth motorcycle helmet headset, a pair of Sennheiser headphones at my desk, and a UE Megaboom. The devices were all paired a long time ago. I can switch between these connections on my phone, at will, with no issues.
That's certainly not true. On a daily basis, I use my phone to connect to my Schuberth motorcycle helmet headset, a pair of Sennheiser headphones at my desk, and a UE Megaboom. The devices were all paired a long time ago. I can switch between these connections on my phone, at will, with no issues.
Oh yeah - and also throw into that mix the cheap-ass Bluetooth receiver that plugs into the aux port in my Jeep. The phone connects to that without re-pairing just fine too.
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
Yeah, plugging in a pair of Bluetooth headphones at the end of the day ... what an unbearable burden.
What about when they die mid trip? Or you want to watch a video and the audio is out of sync because your headphones have a bunch of signal processing to do?
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You should try having some empathy for other humans, instead of being so self-absorbed.
Empathy for the suffering they entail charging their much more convenient headphones?
You spelled less wrong.
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This has been Apple's goal from the very start:
What is the problem? We would like to sell more and expensive audio accessories to people, even though they actually do not need this. Also we would like to do this as exclusively as possible, without bothersome competition What is the cause? People already own a lot of existing audio hardware that works just fine. And there is a lot of competition with a low barrier to entry. What is the solution? Remove the option to use the 3.5mm jack (and justify by blaming physical size) and thus force people to just discard all their existing, fully functional audio hardware and buy new (from us).When you are sure of something, you probably are wrong (search for "Unskilled and Unaware of It").
Basic Bluetooth audio is bad even for non audiophiles. You really need AptX or you will notice.
About pairing, I meant pairing the device to multiple phones/tablets/computers. Instead of just switching the cable over you have to muck about with Bluetooth pairing.
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What if you want to pair your headphones to your phone, tablet, laptop and work PC? How are you going to switch which one they are paired to?
Keep in mind that if you switch off Bluetooth then your keyboard and mouse stop working too. Your phone won't pair to your car automatically any more and you will forget to switch back on when you get in.
You will have to unpair and repair every time. Some devices have NFC to make it less painful, but not Apple ones.
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and stupid re-charge garbage every few hours, switched Sailfish OS and not looking back at corporate greed, fuck you apple!
Then stop buying headphones that aren't made properly.
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The answer is not apple, it's so simple everyone who isn't an idiot can see it.
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Don't forget the glued in battery. LiPo gets about 500 cycles, so 1.5 years of daily use.
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There isn't a need to unpair just to switch sources for a Bluetooth speaker. **If you have a speaker connected to a dozen different sources then it becomes a real pain. I don't have any good solution for you in that case.**
First disconnect from whichever source device is currently connected to it.
on iPhone/iPad: Settings...Bluetooth... click the "i"... Disconnect.
on OSX: Click Bluetooth icon, click connected device... Disconnect.
Then connect whichever source you want to connect to the speaker.
Yes it's mildly inconvenient but not overwhelmingly so.
headphone jack type headphones can also be shit if you buy the dollar store ones. Its all about buying a quality device.
Basic Bluetooth audio is bad even for non audiophiles. You really need AptX or you will notice.
So get AptX. What's the problem?
About pairing, I meant pairing the device to multiple phones/tablets/computers. Instead of just switching the cable over you have to muck about with Bluetooth pairing.
I see. Well, depends on the device I guess. Some of the devices I have easily pair with at least two devices. But even so....then use a dongle. I just don't see what the big deal about it is. Then again, I don't remember the last time I used wired headphones either.
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No loss on the ignorant.
... or when they keep cutting out because you’re in an area where that happens all the bloody time for any number of reasons?
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You don't need kids to ruin small items. I'm a big boy and can ruin my own items myself, thank you very much.
Please cite credible research that Bluetooth causes tumors.
God forbid someone within 10 feet of me finds out I listed to Lady Gaga on the train.
I dunno. When I facetime with people wearing my bluetooth headphones, the audio is synced just fine on both ends.
I'm not sure many people are on the train doing multi-track mastering on their iPhones...
Although the Macbook Pro has 4x thunderbolt3 (USB-C) ports and a 35mm headphone port, its USB-C ports are fully capable of sound/video too.
So when the iPad Pro comes with a USB-C headphone, that headphone will work with the macbook pro. Leaving only the iPhone incompatible. I sent a msg to Mr. Cook to address my growing worries about the headphone incompatibilities but he never replied.
Regardless, this doesn't affect me. I use a Bose QC35 which works flawlessly with macbookpro, ipad, iphone. The only minor problem with this headphone is that although it can pair more than 2 devices, it only tries to connect to the last 2 connected device upon power up. In order to connect to other paired devices, you'd have to keep one of the latest 2 out of range, powered down, or out of communication in some way.
It doesn't go through your head. The wireless transceiver is on the side which communicates with other devices outwards. Internally it wires received sound to both speakers without actually sending any wireless signals "through" your head.
I consider myself an apple fan boy... but I must say you're way off from describing us. You accuse us of falsehoods and ignorance against human health. What the phuck does that even mean? We make technical arguments because we know what we're talking about. That doesn't make us disrespectful or ignorant to anyone else. You on the other hand, go and accuse strangers of shit that don't even make sense. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Me too. Microwave ovens work by vibrating water molecules (or even better the bonds in oil and fat) ... so while they’ll cook you, they won’t give you cancer. But you need to be a bit farther away, like 20 feet from a 1500 watt microwave (1000 Watts radiated) to drop below the FCC danger recommendations with lots of assumptions made for beam width etc. for a 30 minute exposure. Around 220 MHz the human body is resonant and a great antenna. So more efficient absorption than microwaves. But we are talking 1000 Watts for a microwave experiment, and it harms by heating you/cooking you. Cell phones output .6 Watts (though up to 3 for older ones was possible) typical in a city might be 100 milliwatts. Bluetooth varies between 1 milliwatt and 100 milliwatts. Headphones fall toward the lower power side as they need small batteries to last longer... So it wouldn’t damage you much using a cellphone or Bluetooth near your head. Just warm you up minuscule fractions of a degree.
... Bluetooth all the way. No financial stake but Earstudio and others like it can relocate the RF people object to.
And I avoid both issues (dongles, and power at the head) by using a headphone Bluetooth adapter. Mine provides both an unbalanced 3.5 mm Jack and a 2.5 mm balanced jack for higher fidelity. It clips to a sleeve or button front, or jeans pocket. So
- Tjp
I am in wallow with my inner money grubbing capitalistic pig. ... Oink!
Better corded headphones realize this and the cords are replaceable.
- Tjp
I am in wallow with my inner money grubbing capitalistic pig. ... Oink!
Who comes up with this stuff? Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?
Someone who realizes that headphones, if treated well, will last forever, whereas the "gadgets" the headphones get their signal from will be somewhere between obsolete and non-functional within three years of purchase.
I’ll stick to my etymotics and Earstudio thanks. Wireless high fidelity. And it works on iPhone, iPad, Amazon Fire Phone (great hardware they abandoned after a year, but awesome at the time for Android contracts) Fire Tablet, Motorola Droid, Mac Desktop, and Mac desktop, and a large number of mixed vintage machines through a KVM with Bluetooth transmitter adapter. No misc. cords or dongles to get lost, save the one for the KVM and the Earstudio with my headphones. Headset jack? We don’t need no stink’n headset jack...
- Tjp
I am in wallow with my inner money grubbing capitalistic pig. ... Oink!
Apple can use USB-C on the iPad without switching the connector. Just means a different cable would come it. 100% backwards compatible but can charge much faster on USB-C.
no,wrong. to what to you attribute "more pollution" when the wired have less toxic components and lifetime of decades?
The wire coating itself is plastic and there is quite a lot of it over the length of the wire - look how small Bluetooth headsets are, that is how much electronics are in ANY bluetooth headset, a minuscule amount of material. The plug casing and soldier on connections are also worse than wireless headsets.
Also of course, the wires in the landfill could strangle birds, just as soda can holders can.
wireless headphones have low fidelity too
Not anymore, if you care about fidelity you can get bluetooth headsets that support greater audio fidelity, with the added bonus that the transport is all digital until it gets sent to speakers - unlike low-wi wired headsets where you get whatever gets sent over the relatively cheap analog converter in your device. With bluetooth headsets you can choose to pay more for a better DAC. Quality is actually what led me to switch to wireless from wired headsets. If you care at all about quality these days you would go wireless.
so, pollution, battery life and low fidelity sound are what wireless represent.
All of those are worse for wired headsets, with of course the addition that they strangle birds.
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one set of bluetooth headphones you use for every device..what's wrong with that? doh.
nothing to see here - move along
Fellow HAM here (General license). As we both know, radio burn is a potential hazard with any frequency. We also both know that some frequencies (such as VHF frequencies) are more hazardous than others. So, the question isn't whether radio burn with Bluetooth (2.45 GHz) is a possibility - of course it is - but what exposure levels are safe. There's been precious little research on this topic, but the prevailing consensus seems to be that using a Bluetooth headset presents less of a cancer hazard than holding a cell phone against one's head. (See for example the American Cancer Society's guidance on cell phones). 73.
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I'd agree with you if the bluetooth radio on Iphone worked consistently well. A close friends Iphone x often doesn't connect to bluetooth devices. Even her IWatch doesn't connect frequently. I've had similar issues with my own Iphone 6s.
Not mentioning other issues (one more item to charge, quality etc...).
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Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Anything but live music is a compromise.......and even THAT is a compromise on a number of issues (such as having to listen to an audience along with the music).
I am actually actually a licensed RF broadcaster, WQUB386. The fact that you think a Bluetooth transmitter is in the same class with a microwave shows how little you know about RF. Go put a tinfoil hat on you troll.
only method is Bluetooth, all right, let's buy 4th headphone - airpods