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Four-Day Working Week For All is a Realistic Goal This Century, UK Trade Unions Say (theguardian.com)

Advances in technology mean that a four-day week working week is a realistic goal for most people by the end of this century, the leader of the UK's trade union movement has said. From a report: Frances O'Grady, the general secretary of the Trades Union Congress (TUC), used her speech to the organisation's 150th annual gathering to insist that evolving technology and communications should cut the number hours spent at work. Speaking in Manchester on Monday, O'Grady said: "In the 19th century, unions campaigned for an eight-hour day. In the 20th century, we won the right to a two-day weekend and paid holidays. So, for the 21st century, let's lift our ambition again. I believe that in this century we can win a four-day working week, with decent pay for everyone. It's time to share the wealth from new technology, not allow those at the top to grab it for themselves."

A report by the organisation says postwar economists promised employees would be working a 15-hour week by now and that polls showed a four-day week would be most people's preference. "Instead, new technology is threatening to intensify working lives. For some, the on-demand economy has meant packaging work into ever-smaller pieces of time," the report reads. "This is a return to the days of piece-work, creating a culture where workers are required to be constantly available to work." More than 1.4 million people work seven days a week, with 3.3 million working more than 45 hours a week, according to the report.

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  1. Wasn't this in the Jetsons? by quietwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    George: "These one hour work days are killing me! Thank goodness it's only twice a week!"

    1. Re:Wasn't this in the Jetsons? by youngone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should have another look at the summary. The piece is from the TUC, a UK union group.
      Workers in the UK have proper healthcare regardless of how many hours they work, or who they work for, they don't have to go cap in hand to their overlords hoping to avoid bankruptcy if they or their children get sick.
      It's what civilised countries do.

    2. Re:Wasn't this in the Jetsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      >> It's what civilised countries do.

      It pisses me off when people say this. I mean, you're right, but it still pisses me off.

  2. One less day is only a few minutes less work by Lucas123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late. I use the side door - that way Lumbergh can't see me. After that I just sorta space out for about an hour. Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

    1. Re:One less day is only a few minutes less work by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What I ended up doing was buying some books and training myself to be qualified for a better job. And then I took the first offer that came along. Reading programming textbooks counted for appearing busy. Good thing for them they didn't let me become important to the company, or they may have missed me when I left.

  3. 4 Days? How About Zero Days? by rally2xs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    End of century ought to see so much robotization that we will live like the ancient Romans, with slaves to do all the real work, and for us those slaves will be robots. We program them to to do what they're told, they mine the minerals and build the machines to give us clean energy, transport us wherever we want to go, build gadgets to keep us from having to weed the garden in case we want to do it ourselves rather than letting personal robots grow food, etc. Nobody has to pay a robot because it too is served by other robots that supply its needs, and so forth. There will be no reason to study anything because the robots will be conducting the science and exploration, all we have to do is whatever we find pleasurable.

    We should last about as long as the Krell that way.

  4. Less destructive? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Studies have shown that people are more productive the less time they spend in an office

    I've encountered several who were more productive when they didn't come in at all.

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  5. Working one's options by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Years go I had a job where we could work longer hours for fewer days: 3 very long days a week (not popular), 4 long days a week (not popular either), 9 slightly long days every two weeks (very popular), or 5 regular days each week. Almost everybody (including me) worked a nine day fortnight. I liked it, a reasonable balance between long days and time off. Management hated it, and were trying to eliminate it. By now (nearly 30 years later) they have probably done so.

    I'd love to work less, have more time for myself. I've felt my employers out on such things, and their answer amounts to "You kidding? LOL".

    ...laura

  6. Re:4 Days? How About Zero Days? by Wycliffe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We're already somewhat there. You can live quite comfortable at 30k/year. You can raise a family relatively comfortably on 50k/year. If you are making 100k/year there are plenty of places even in the USA that you can live like a king with a large yard, housekeeper, large house, multiple vacations a year. If you are one of those people at 100k/year and struggling then find a freind or neighbor who makes 30k/year and let them show you their budget. I guarantee that you are upscaling a ton of stuff that you don't need whether it is an expensive car, an expensive neighborhood, or some habit that is consuming all your "excess" money. Most peoples expenses naturally grow to use up whatever money is available whether it is with a larger house, a nicer car, or a more upscale neighborhood.

  7. The Krell's problem wasn't that they got lazy by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or suffered from Ennui. Their problem was they lost control of their machines and were killed by them. So long as we don't hook out machines up to our brains while we sleep I think we'll just do fine.

    Also, you're entire post is predicated on the idea that if people aren't working to survive they don't know what to do with themselves. That couldn't be further away from the truth if it tried. People can and will keep themselves busy with hobbies, family life, researching their own interests, etc. The only reason why we have this notion that if you don't work you're life is worthless is that it was instilled in us by our ruling class. Given enough education and critical thinking we can get over it when the time comes.

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  8. Decent pay by manu0601 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Four-days week is desirable, but we should focus on decent pay first, because this is what is under attack now.

    A four-days week job is meritless if you need to have two of them to get decent income.