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SpaceX Says It Signed First Private Passenger To the Moon (nbcnewyork.com)
SpaceX announced Thursday that it's booked the world's first private passenger to the moon. The private aerospace company said on Twitter the unnamed traveler would board its Big Falcon Rocket (BFR) to the moon, where only 24 people have ever traveled. Only 12 of those people actually walked on the moon. NBC New York reports: SpaceX didn't reveal any details about the potentially historic voyage but said it plans to reveal the traveler's identity and more on Monday, Sept. 17. The company called the plan "an important step toward enabling access for everyday people who dream of traveling to space." Musk shared the announcement on his personal page but remained tight-lipped as well. However, when asked if the passenger was him, Musk responded with an emoji of the Japanese flag.
Alice!
what I want to know is:
How much does it cost?
A Japanese man was the first commercial space passenger back in the day, working for a Japanese TV company. Maybe it's the same deal, TV company is paying for one of its staff to go. Essentially funded by advertising.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Wonder if it was Satoshi. If he's really Japanese.
Wasn't the first private passenger to the moon supposed to be on a SLS mission?
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
So amazing. This must mean they are weeks away from heading there. I'm so excited for them!
Do we still take what Musk says seriously? I mean, how many times has he said something will happen at some time, and how many times has he actually followed on? For example, just last month he said he said he's taking Tesla private. Or the manned space flight, he has been saying "in two years" for past ten years. Or the Falcon Heavy test flight slipping multiple times, or the other flights of FH that were supposed to happen this year.
Don't get me wrong, he is doing amazing stuff, and I understand there are objective reasons for the deadline slips, and I am a big fan and wish him success. But it has come to the point where I will wait until he actually delivers something before getting excited. And I will definitely get excited when the Moon flight happens.
(How are we on criticizing Musk here? Am I good? Am I going to get crucified? Stay tuned to find out.)
.. they found someone with a lot of money who wants to die.
Musks cars aren't that bad.
In fact, they're kinda too good.
The business of making them doesn't seem to be good.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
it's booked the world's first private passenger to the moon.
BAH -- you can charge peanuts for that. The real charges appear when you want to return to Earth.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
The business of making them doesn't seem to be good.
To whom? Musk has built the most desirable automobile brand in just a few years, and is pulling in approximately $10,000 per Model 3 at the moment. In theory, he's going to still make thousands in profit selling the lower-end Model 3s. GM is losing money on every EV they sell and Nissan is only maybe around the break-even point. Tell us again how the business of making Teslas is bad.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I thought most people knew not to buy and install V1.0 of anything. Apparently not people able to afford a moon trip.
Because he has to sell a 70k Tesla to make 10k, assuming that 10k is even true. Neither of us really knows.
That's the estimate produced by Munro and Associates, the leaders in the vehicle cost analysis business. It's a reasonable assumption.
What is the price of the GM and Nissan you fail to mention? Can Tesla break even at the same price?
No, because they are producing a superior automobile. However, Munro estimates that they will still make several thousand in profit selling the lower-spec model. It has less expensive content, so it costs a lot less to produce. There's still more profit in the higher-content model, which is why Tesla is focusing on filling those orders first. Musk would have to be a massive moron to not do that.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
He bought an extremely ugly painting for way too much a few years back. This trip would totally be his style.
As far as a third party parting out the cost. They have no idea either.
Munro and Associates has been doing cost analysis for decades, and they've been getting feedback from automakers and suppliers on their analyses all along. Their experience with both suppliers and automakers and doing teardowns has let them get a very good picture of what it costs to build auto parts based on examinations of same.
So you compare against two cheaper cars and when called out on it you reel it back in and entirely fail to stand by your own point.
I stand by my point, you're moving the goalposts.
If Nissan or GM sold a car with $25k parts (according to you and your sketchy unreliable sources) for $70k I suspect (you note I state this as opinion not as fact like you do) that their profit margin would vastly exceed Tesla at the same price point.
If white were black you could get run over at the next zebra crossing. However, Tesla has lower overhead than those big automakers because they have less employees and facilities.
Here is what we know as fact: Tesla loses money every quarter. They are losing money right now. They do not have the size, run way, and cash on hand that GM and Nissan have, nor access to capital markets like GM and Nissan do.
Yet they seem to have no trouble finding enough investors to keep going.
Comparing a tiny shitbox company run by a mad man to two real companies run by professionals is simply ridiculous.
Comparing a small, successful company which is selling more cars than it can produce to massive dinosaurs of corporations which wouldn't exist without bailouts is beyond ridiculous.
You are simply a fanboi and have zero facts to stand on.
You are a coward, and you may run along now.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Of course they have more employees and facilities. They produce and sell orders of magnitude more cars!!!
And yet they would still have gone out of business without bailouts. The simple fact is that it doesn't matter how many cars they have sold, they are failures, just like you are at debate.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Alice!
As Smokie sang... or maybe the audience sang it... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw08Py5nz1w) "Who the fuck is Alice?"
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
the mysterious passenger is Tomodachi. ;-)
I believe the summary's "only 24 people have ever traveled" is short by 3, given the 9 missions that flew to the moon with 3 astronauts each (Apollo 8 and Apollo 11 through 17). Perhaps they didn't consider Apollo 13, which flew to the moon even though the landing was aborted?
I am not a number - I am a free man!
Turns out it's some billionaire. https://science.slashdot.org/s...
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