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Survey Finds 85% of Underserved Students Have Access To Only One Digital Device (educationdive.com)
A new research [PDF] on students who took the ACT test, conducted by the ACT Center for Equity in Learning, found that 85% of underserved (meaning low income, minority, or first generation in college) students had access to only one device at home, most often a smartphone. From a blog post: American Indian/Alaskan, Hispanic/Latino, and African American students had the least access. White and Asian students had the most. Nearly a quarter of students who reported that family income was less that $36,000 a year had access to only a single device at home, a 19% gap compared to students whose family income was more than $100,000.
Sounds like first world problems, mate.
...they're not just trendy?
A lot of under-25 people I know only have a smartphone. No desktop, no laptop, not even a TV set.
Just a phone - with access to the entire Internet.
quick lets give ipads and iphones and everything else to thek at tax payer expense. It will certainly increase their intellectual capacity just by having it near them!!
when I was poor in 1997 I was stuck with a Pentium 75 and 32 MB of RAM while my rich friends had a P133 and 128MB ! of RAM.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Last years ipads are not up to snuff
Is the solution to give those people even more digital devices?
Or is the solution to figure out how to make that one device many of them do have, able to do everything important.
If you think about it, there's no reason you cannot learn anything you want with just a phone. Even programming I feel like could be learned on a phone to a high level.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
underserved (meaning low income, minority, or first generation in college)
So ... being a minority, by definition, means you are underserved? Being the first person in your family to go to college means you are being underserved?
This sort of "words no longer mean anything" crap has completely swamped the entire educational establishment.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Anyone on any form of public assistance, or with the gall to lie about it, qualifies for a free publuc cellphone w minimal data plan for free. You can get several different phones in the same day, iphone and android just by chatting up the scum at their tents outside of any public welfare office. Acting like poor people can't have whatever they want is a lie.
Growing up, the men who built the bomb had access to zero digital devices. They were SOOO disadvantaged! It is amazing they could even match their socks. As kids, they must have all thought, "I can't learn anything. I don't have the iPad XXX."
Introduce a system called "TrumpPhones", where people who earn less than a certain amount get access to free phones, txt messaging, and data.
And then offer them "TrumpPuters", which are basically $100 'puters that allow people to access the internet.
And after THAT, you could offer them "TrumpNet", which is like $5 a month for unlimited internet access at a constant 2 megabits per second transfer rate. 2,000,000 bits! 2 mILLLION Bits!
Or I suppose the poors and people of color could just get ObamaPhones. Millionaires and people aspiring to be millionaires go with Trump, and Trump sponsored products. Trump is also known to be one of the most powerful men in the USA. Obama can't say that anymore. Obama is a lame duck. Quack.
* Lump all black socio economic groups together as simply "African-American."
* Break whites down, somewhat, by socio-economic group.
That's how they skew the results and make it look like being a minority is intrinsically a doomed position. It is guaranteed to drown out the story of the black middle class.
When they steal these phones from their rightful owner, the owner will immediately deactivate the phone. After authorities are notified, the phone becomes "bricked" so to speak, and useless to the perp.
The solution is for phone owners to conceal carry and shoot the perp during the robbery. Simple. No more need for the perp to worry about possessing only one digital device. All the perp's worries are over.
If you read TFA, the percentage of "underserved" kids with access to only one device is 19% (compared to 6% for "served" kids). Nowhere near as alarming as 85%.
Of the students who have access to only one computing device, 85% are "underserved", 15% are not. That's where the 85% figure comes from. I'd cut and paste the relevant quotes, but the PDF has the stupid no-copy flag.
From what I can remember of my college years, I didn't have any digital devices, but I was overserved on many occasions.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Wasn't the whole education thing about knowledge, not digital devices?
Maybe stick to teaching instead of making college all about who's got the most computing gadgets with the latest features. In fact, the late E.W. Dijkstra taught an introductory semester programming in which the students weren't supposed to touch a computer at all before finishing the course, for a reason. The book can still be had from the online Dijkstra archives at UTexas.
How can those racists make a claim like this? "American Indian/Alaskan, Hispanic/Latino, and African American students had the least access. White and Asian students ..."
Gee. I wonder how many remote villages in Alaska have Internet let alone cell phone towers? This is not an issue of poor versus well off but reality. Indian reservations don't have cell phone cover over the thousands of miles. Nor, do they install internet in such lowly populated places such as Alaska, Montana, and reservations.
But with Indian reservations blame the problem on the funding as the tribal leaders want to build casinos instead of education.
As for blacks, they're just thrown in their for the usual racial hate mongers to reinforce the big lie.
I'd be interested to see how you solve the problems of 1. adapting an IDE to a 5 inch touch screen and 2. getting it approved by Apple
I don't see any issues at all with re-building something like Xcode to work on a very small screen. Much of what I do in Xcode is still typing code, and Swift Playgrounds on the iPad shows you can absolutely re-work the keyboard to make that very practical. Even using IB could almost just as well be done on a small screen as I zoom in and out of UI layout a lot anyway, and you could easily have some way to flip between UI layout and code related to elements you were focused on.
However why do you have to go that far? There are already many scripting language apps (like Python) for the iPhone. Or other ways to learn programming as well - why do you think Apple would have any issues? Hell if you rewrote Xcode for the iPhone Apple would probably buy you out (and not in the Simpsons sense).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It has to do with history. Low Income people, minorities, and people who are the first of their families in college have historically had a very hard time getting ahead in the US. It's a fact. Sorry that upsets you so much, snowflake.
I don't respond to AC's.
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And you can cut a lawn with a pair of scissors.
At this point programming on the IPhone is way more like using a push mover vs. a powered mower. Yeah it's not as easy, but again we are talking about learning to program here - not churn out code 24x7 for some corporate master. Honestly for years now many iOS developers have been chomping at the bit for Apple to bring Xcode to the iPad, I feel like it could be more interactive developing in that way. Swift helps by going from the worlds second most verbose language (Objective C) to the second most capably terse languages (Swift).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Are reducing their kids access to digital devices.
Imagine that, the horror, poor students!
NO. Guess what, they don't have because they don't need and don't want. Either a computer or protective gloves or a carpet with a unicorn. But not because you're so poor that you can't afford it, not in the USA. Having a place to stay, paying the bills, yea, that can be tricky. A computer you can get for free (sometimes directly from the trash) or for very, very cheap.
This might sound harsh, but the faster the entire world figures this out, the better. STOP BREEDING LIKE RABBITS! In the USA, the "welfare" system has created generation after generation of "welfare humans". People that have NEVER worked, NEVER been educated, continuing the cycle! They have "baby mama" baby daddy" children who have NO IDEA who their parent(s) are, grow up to imitative their parents so called lifestyle of drugs, crime, unwed mothers etc. Before the 64 signing of the welfare system, they WERE progressing into earning their way out of the stranglehold of the "jim crow" era, but then the government said, don't worry about it, we'll take care of you (they should have asked the Indians (native americans) what they thought. Plus, you had a lot of people in the democratic party, like LBJ, saying "we'll have those n****s voting democrat for 200 years". Some, are JUST NOW seeing the problem, and are now voting OUT their democratic slave masters, which is why you see the democrats pushing to make ILLEGAL aliens, voters. They need a NEW block of people, they can hoodwink!
Seriously, so what? I grew up without devices at all and then had a full career in IT. Having devices at home growing up or not is meaningless.
This jumps to conclude more than one is a benefit that somehow advances oneself out of poverty. I'm sorry- but I'm just not convinced. Computers can be academic advances, but the majority of devices kids have today are not academically useful or result in improved well being later in life. Having a computer could potentially be very useful in picking up skills like programming or in relation to business skills and other commercial activities. Learning about merchant accounts, credit card payment systems, regulations, and so on are all highly useful, but having more than one device that can do this not so much. A typical locked down smart phone though isn't going to be near as useful as an actual computer running free software.
Go to it.... You will find many computers at a public library. Welcome to 1998 son
Can't wait to hear from all the liberals about how multiple internet devices (and free access) are now a human right.... THE RICH MUST PAY THEIR SHARE...
Although there are some wonderful exceptions the price of the home determines the quality of the student. The kid from the 600K home is usually a better student than the kid from a 200K home. Economic freedom does not exist in the US and many innocents are deprived of what they need to turn into top scholars. In a way it is the same type of problem that we see in the courts. If you can afford large lawyer and trial expenses you will be found not guilty, get a short sentence or sent to a nice and easy prison.
I think the ideal of inexpensive devices are available but people everywhere see these more expensive devices they want not need and so the tech budget goes to one device. People should spend wiser and top falling for marketing which makes you think you have to spend a lot to do a lot.
To get the iOS dev kit
But that's my point, we are not talking about needing the whole iOS dev kit. We are talking about kids learning to code, they don't need the whole dev kit. They need some way to write and run programs, full stop. That need is taken care of by a number of apps that already exist.
That said I think eventually we will see the whole iOS dev kit on IOS. But even without it today, kids can absolutely learn to code on nothing but a smart phone.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
a device exactly?
...internet or digital devices, and he turned out OK.
That's what we're whining about in this article? They only have access to ONE device? Seriously? How many devices do they need?
Had paper and a pen.
A typewriter.
People had at walk to a library at set times. Find books and read from them in their own time. Take their own written notes.
People got accepted on the G.I. Bill and had to study within that system of support.
They studied a lot and where thankful just to be able to get an opportunity learn.
Todays generation have one device? A modern OS on a networked laptop.
That can format a document. Has spelling and full internet support. Can allow the student to work with others on a network.
Can get information from network any time of the day.
That one "computer" is looking like a powerful device able fully support most study.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I don't even think that it would be impractical to use without an external keyboard. Just look at screenshots from the iPhone version of Pythonista - that includes shots of editing code with the keyboard up, a UI editor, and showing graphical apps running. The fundamentals are all in place showing how you could use the same approach for any language, or system, and build working apps. Now the iPad simulator might be a might tiny on the iPhone but drawing apps have figured out lots of approaches to stuff like that.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Yay for useless studies.
It shocks me how many college graduates we hire are incapable of even the most basic research. If they can't type a simple phrase into Google and get back exactly what they need, they're stuck. Even the idea of trying synonyms or grouping words to coax Google into giving back what they need is foreign to them. One of the first things I have to show a lot of new developers is to limit your Google queries to one year because often times things from 2002 aren't relevant (not always the case but start focus and expand only if you need to).
Back in the day when I had to walk two miles in the snow up hill both ways just to get to card catalog you learned to organize your thoughts/ideas and that sometimes you had to dig a little to get what you actually needed. Now if it's not served up on a silver platter, the answer obviously doesn't exist. I think it also has a detrimental effect on evaluating information, they tend to take the first results they get back as the correct answer and never question it. You see this on stack overflow where often the simple but partially correct or even brain dead answer is voted up and the better one that has more detail, corner cases, etc. is buried below it.
And don't get me wrong, I think it's great we have this much information freely and quickly available... but we're giving kids the firehose without ever teaching them how to control it. That's not good for them in the long run and not good for us as a whole.
Now... get off my lawn... I need to yell at that cloud over there.
The majority of people have only one sexual partner. The majority of people have only one home. The majority of people have only one car.
None of these people are "underserved". If you have only one of something that often means that one item is a really GOOD item and fulfills all of that particular need.
The idea that 'one is not enough' is simply an artifact of the keeping up with the jones/greed.
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A factoid FWIW:
When the iPhone first rolled out, I was surprised that the first ones I saw in the wild -- in Manhattan, NYC -- were owned by, to put it diplomatically, the opposite of the cliche fantasy image of the typical Apple customer. While contrary to the press' cartoon image, it made perfect sense. Of course people with limited means would buy an iPhone -- because while expensive for a phone, it was cheap for what they really couldn't afford: a laptop. So the first iPhone covered them by doing laptop basics -- email, web access -- as well as what was also needed, a phone. (Also FWIW: My initially witticism about the phone was that it wasn't a phone but a wee computer with telephony.)
First, can they read?
Second, can they write?
Third, can they at least make change in Base10?
Computers are complete bullshit without the above
I use a cheap, secondhand smartphone for almost all of my daily web activity, and for personal enrichment. I've applied for jobs on it, tailored my resume on it, am learning a second language with it, and any technical manual I need is always available. A poor person using only a cheap, internet connected smartphone is a good choice in frugality, and still gives them infinite ways to enrich themselves.
One Device is plenty. Isn't this what the Rasberry PI was supposed to address ? A Rasberry PI computer is cheap enough to build.
Socialism sucks!
This will probably increase productivity. Not kidding.
You think there are geniuses out there who have been stunted by lack of digital devices?
They're mostly time sinks
When I was a young whippersnapper we had to walk to school uphill, both ways, AND we didn't have access to ANY digital devices.
"Nearly a quarter of students who reported that family income was less that $36,000 a year had access to only a single device at home, a 19% gap compared to students whose family income was more than $100,000"
And water is wet so what?
You can barely afford to live at 36k a Year so I'm actually surprised you'd bother with a cellphone.
But I know most of them got their cellphone from programs already.
Are you planning more free giveaways Comrade?
Let them work up the chain like the rest of us, you don't get a better life from whining and sitting on your ass.
Affluent households may have access to a plethora of devices:
- wall clock
- wrist watch
- alarm clock
- scale
- kitchen scale
- TV
- radio
- phonograph
- video recorder
- washing machine
- dish washer
- microwave oven
- refrigerator
- stove
- heating
- air conditioner
- fan
- vacuum cleaner
- iron for laundry
- lights
- lawn mower
- telephone
- thermometer
- cigarette lighter
- automobile
- picture frame
The list goes on and on.... (poorer families barely own 1 lightbulb) any number of the above could be digital in 2018, but what is the impact on your educational career?
HURZAAAH! 85% of underserved students have access to a digital device. Possibly more. The remaining 15% might have more than one device. What I'd be concerned with is the group that has access to ZERO devices. Because learning how to use computers is one of those basic life skills at this point, like diving a car and managing money.
This is actually a thing in some RPGs. The "driving" skill is for speeding around and dodging cops, but everyone knows how to drive. I was playing with kid who was literally getting their permit at the time and they quite understandably thought that they had to buy ranks in it. Like, HA, no kid, everyone is just expected to do this. And then there's the barbarian who can't dial a phone....
What a euphemism. Why not be sure that deserving students have what they need? Undeserving students will receive what they deserve. Sheesh. PC sometimes is utter nonsense.
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Every programming course I took, I completed using the lab computers. We were forced to pay for the lab access so I figured I might as well get my monies worth. For all of the general education courses I simply used the computers in the library. The library had just gotten the 1st generation iMacs and I was eager to see just how awful the puck mouse really was (it is to date the worst mouse I have ever used.)
-==- Buy a Mac and leave me alone!