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It Only Took 37 Seconds For Two Bitcoin 'Celebs' To Start Fighting on a Cruise Ship (mashable.com)

Posted by msmash on from the not-the-onion dept.

An anonymous reader shares a report: The cruise ship wasn't big enough for the both of them. On September 10, somewhere in the Mediterranean, two well-known rivals -- Jimmy Song, a venture partner at Blockchain Capital LLC and Roger Keith Ver, an early investor in bitcoin-related startups and Bitcoin Cash evangelist -- in the cryptocurrency space stood awkwardly poolside. A crowd, sporting a mix of cryptocurrency-themed t-shirts and bikinis, lounged nearby on the ship's upper deck. One man, sweatpants sloshing in the water, steadied a tripod. The Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash debate was about to begin. It only took 37 seconds to spiral out of control.

It was perhaps to be expected that the debate wouldn't go smoothly, but just how quickly it went off the rails surprised even those in attendance. Song, cowboy hat atop his head and microphone in hand, attempted to introduce the format of the event -- a "Lincoln-Douglas style debate" -- but was soon interrupted by Ver. Shouts of "no Roger" emanated from the crowd, as Ver told the audience to "calm down." It quickly spun out from there, with Song repeatedly telling Ver to "sit down" as Ver angled for the microphone. "Do you want to debate me or not," Song demanded. "OK then sit down," he repeated as he stood behind the podium. Bickering over whether or not Ver would get a one-minute introduction before the official start of the debate continued on, with Song addressing the crowd and Ver shouting at the top of his lungs. They heatedly yelled over each other as the crowd jeered. Three minutes had passed, and things were not going well. And then someone handed Ver a mic. You better believe Song wasn't having that, and so he stormed offstage saying he was "refusing to do the debate." Finally with the stage all to himself, Ver attempted to speak but was immediately shouted down by an angry, shirtless man yelling from the pool. And that's all just the first five minutes. The video is over 40 minutes long.

106 comments

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  3. Who are we to judge? by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    If Jimmy Song and Roger Keith Ver want to wear cryptocurrency themed bikinis, who are we to judge them?

    1. Re:Who are we to judge? by supremebob · · Score: 0

      According to Contributor's Covenant, we're not allowed to anymore anyway. Isn't that how Linus Torvalds got in trouble?

    2. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      According to Contributor's Covenant, we're not allowed to anymore anyway. Isn't that how Linus Torvalds got in trouble?

      Linus was blackmailed. It'll come out soon enough.

    3. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be current, we shouldn't judge them for wearing Pai and California themed evening dresses either.

    4. Re: Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

    5. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In my judgement, Bitcoin Cash BCH is still the better coin to date and suitable for continuing commercial use over near term 1-3 year future... low fees, fast, decentralized... that's a good set.
      BCH is closest to the original whitepaper, AND since all coins naturally evolve after their first release, BCH is properly exploring and taking a less complex, simple and natural path to scalability.

      Whereas Bitcoin Core BTC is developing all sorts of crazy new protocols to try to scale.
      Crazy new protocols and sidecoins are in fact fine, but ONLY if other simpler means have been exhausted first. That hasn't happened yet.

      The simple fact is that the formerly anarchic voluntary libertarian BTC of old has sold themselves out to centralized sidecoin forces for profit and control. That's what lightning is. And that's what humans do when they are unable to hold themselves to higher philosophies of non control. That's bad and BTC will thus die a slow death as people migrate to more free choices.

      BCH did the simplest first and obvious evolution of raising the blocksize, duhr.
      And I'm looking forward to what other distributed decentralized scaling mechanisms they come up with.

      However long term, 5+ years out... for ANY coin to succeed, it will need to not only be fully decentralized and free from control, fast to within a few minutes or less, with fees at or below credit card levels.... but ALSO fully cryptographically encrypted and privacy coins using the likes of Zero Knowledge Proofs. Because right now nearly ALL coins are completely non-financially private and open to all controls and dataminers... that's a terrible loss from even fiat cash.

      ZKP strong cryptographically private coins like Zcash ZEC, Zencash ZEN, Bitcoin Private BTCP, etc are the ONLY option for the coming cryptocurrency clash with fiat. If you don't have the choice to keep your transactions private, you're going to be monitored, reported, taxed and blocked off the net straight back to fiat stone age.

      ps: Monero XMR is not a cryptographically strong privacy coin, it just got shilled into the darkweb market scene by Anti Forces and was thus *believed* to be private and non analyzable by the drug addled retards therein. Monero is nowhere near as strongly private as ZKP is, for example ZEC. Monero also cannot scale due to requiring tons of space just to perform its false privacy claims.

    6. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for posting this. I think you're right about the coming clash, and I want cryptocurrency to survive it, so I'll look into privacy coins next, I heard about them before. I already knew from youtube about how lightning was really not decentralized P2P because it's hubs can and likely will end up acting as control checkpoints over all of us. I don't like that possibility at all.

    7. Re:Who are we to judge? by TheSimkin · · Score: 1

      How much did you get paid to publish this garbage? You realize this diatribe only works on the uneducated right? With the slashdot crowd you are wasting your time.

    8. Re:Who are we to judge? by xQx · · Score: 1

      Except that Litecoin does everything BCash does, did it before BCash forked for profit, does it without trying to appropriate the "Bitcoin" name, and can survive without trying to trick people into buying it when they actually want Bitcoin.

      And Zcash is all well and good, but privacy is OPTIONAL; and while it may or may not be cryptographically superior to XMR, the fact that private transactions stand out on the blockchain like dogs balls make them far easier to trace on ingress and egress.

    9. Re: Who are we to judge? by jd · · Score: 2

      The covenant only says you have to judge code by the code and not by the contributor.

      Not sure why anyone has a problem with that, beyond people seemingly wanting to have problems and not RTFMing.

      Same goes for the "debate" described. Attitudes that focus on having problems with others.

      This four digit UID has used Linux since 0.1 and 386BSD before that. I do not recall any antagonism towards a meritocracy in the USENET days. Maybe I'm too old for this. In my day, it was all about the code and the belief in the freedom of sharing. The covenant simply enforces what we, the free/libre/open source contributors hold to be true. It's no more onorous than the GPL.

      But too many today think they know better. Maybe they do. They can prove it by founding their own communities. Parasites prove nothing.

      --
      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    10. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Slashdot is a mix of technologically smart, and tech ignorant, a LOT of the latter, and trolls.
      Slashdot is not philosophically intelligent, as someone here said, they simply don't focus their studies on that.
      You're not likely a libertarian cypherpunk.
      Look to them if you want to know what cryptocurrency is really all about.

    11. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTC actually forked extensive new complex features away from it's own former BTC blockchain, requiring major thought and examination by would be participants before even considering adopting use of them.

      BTC is also owned by corporate interests now, in the secret 0wn3d backroom sense of that word.

      Any shift of cryptocurrencies away from that back to decentralized personal P2P ways is a good one.

      BCH group literally just kept the former BTC blockchain going, changed the blocksize, and that's it. That's why, on an overall changeset and other levels, they should use the "Bitcoin" name... BCH is closest to what was behind the original "Bitcoin". At least when limiting comparison to only between BCH and BTC. Yes, other coins may still be closer but have negligible market adoption or prospects of same.

      Furthermore, the cypherpunks and voluntaryist anarchism roots of cryptocurrencies dictate that copyright and trademark are moot due to lack of State Enforcers, therefore they have every right to call themselves whatever they want, and leave it up to the market to decide.

      Yes, XMR is not as private as ZKP based privacy coins, XMR gets analyzed roughly once a year by some academic group... statistically strong is not cryptographically strong, there's a difference.

      Yes, it is likely that that is also NO coin today that is resistant to the coming quantum cryptography attacks, that's bad, but easily remedied.

      Optional privacy is a good thing. That way you can set your default privacy mode for all your transactions to private or nonprivate, and then choose to expose or confidential whichever transactions you like as needed. For example paying tax on your wages, but keeping all your side gigs and new things private. It's also easier for optional coins to reach regulatory adoption that way, in fact ZCash has made specific inroads there because of their selective privacy feature.

      Ingress and egress are handled by cryptographically secure anonymous overlay networks as needed, or by the coin itself if it provides such end to end transport mechanisms.
      Did you know that only the ZenCash family of cryptocurrencies provide any TLS over the wire?
      And that there are Onion and I2P cryptocurrencies?

      Nope.

      So stop proving stupid and enhance your thinking before going around blathering "optional" and "bcash" like all the other retards, shills, and Anti's here.

    12. Re:Who are we to judge? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      "Use your student loan money to buy MY favored 'coin' not those other ones!"

    13. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Literally a troll

    14. Re: Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have forgotten the Usenet days, senile senior citizen. Go yell at your cloud somewhere else.

    15. Re:Who are we to judge? by xQx · · Score: 1

      So stop proving stupid and enhance your thinking before going around blathering "optional" and "bcash" like all the other retards, shills, and Anti's here.

      Okay, if you read the reports on the "insecurities" surrounding XMR, you'll find they all refer to the early days of the coin when it had a much smaller transaction pool to draw from, and in fact had optional privacy. Obviously I disagree with you, so I must be a shill.

      Do me a favor, get whatever you can and throw it into Bcash and Bitcoin Private ... both are on SALE now. Though, if you're worried about who's controlling Bitcoin Core, you might want to do some cursory research into the relationship between Bcash and Bitman.

      The market will sort you out eventually.

    16. Re: Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there _were_ the dahmum wars. They were the sort of ridiculousness one would expect to find arising these days, albeit with more technically informed (though equally wrong) content.

    17. Re:Who are we to judge? by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Wasn't this ESR's bizaro paranoid claim that eeeeeebil SJWs would form some sort of weird left wing conspiracy to blackmail Linus Torvalds for, uh no reason.

      --
      Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
    18. Re: Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love everyone that helped keep the price of BCH up while I sold what I had. Thank you!

      On that note it's going to be fun to see what Bitmain does with their 1mill BCH. It's hard to see what options they have now.

    19. Re:Who are we to judge? by slashways · · Score: 1

      BCASH is just useless; It was just hard forked to get something still compatible with the ASICBoost trick used by BITMAIN; We know now that BITMAIN own 10000000 BCASH, this coin will just crash if BITMAIN is out of money. BITCOIN (BTC) is the store of value, ZEC is not, it was just released for the people controlling the code to get a 20% tax on the mining operation. I don't understand why Jimmy Song waste his time debating with Roger Ver. All theses 'alts' are just scams for most of them or useless for the fair ones. The book 'The Bitcoin Standard' is the good one to get a good economic perspective. BCASH holders definitively miss something, and at 6.8% of the BTC value, this coin look more and more as a Titanic.

    20. Re:Who are we to judge? by sleepghost · · Score: 1

      Indeed BCASH is just worthless; Bad development choices e.g. non secure 0-confirmation and so on... Empty big blocks...

  4. this BULLSHIT will NOT STAND! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
    enough with the obfuscations and infantile dick-measuring, there are important matters to be addressed here!
    And I quote:

    "cryptocurrency-themed ... bikinis"

    Please. Explain yourself. You sound like you might be mentally deranged.

  5. No Thanks, I have a life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I need that 40 minutes for more important things.... like facebook

    1. Re:No Thanks, I have a life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "No Thanks, I have a life..." - I beg to differ.

    2. Re:No Thanks, I have a life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Yeah... that's why yo're on slashdot commenting an article about two douchebags fighting.

  6. What a tool by Doc+Right · · Score: 0

    Apparently Ver's an even bigger tool in person than he is on Twitter.

  7. c6gunner hiding behind anonymous coward... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: Your MASSIVE FAIL in this life is you're nothing more than a chattering little do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" online & you know it...

    We all know it's you c6gunner hiding behind anonymous coward you FAKENAME of a fake life fuck. IMPERSONATING me for days and posting LIES like hosts don't protect against Spectre & Meltdown (they do), no MacOS version of my hosts file engine (there is one) & changing /. user's words about my work. You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    * Is that the best your "phantasyland FAKE NAME" (for your fake lie of a so-called 'life') can manage?

    When a FAKE NAME do nothing fuck like YOU does better than I have? Then talk (you're all talk & no action)...

    You can't help you're an immature little BUTTHURT no-mind, lol! I blew you away in TONS OF PLACES and easily dust your no-mind bullshit blatherings.

    APK

    P.S.=> The TRUE PRICE of your UNIDENTIFIABLE FAKE NAME do-nothing selves like you that I can ALWAYS CASH IN ON (lol) is that I can use FACT/TRUTH on them to SHATTER their all TOO fragile delusional egos that they actually know A DAMN THING in computing, lol... apk

  8. pathetic by mr_resident · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, hand your money over to guys like that. Excellent financial planning.

    1. Re:pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a retard.
      Real cryptocurrencies are not under control of any Government, Corporation, Persons, or Person.

      Also, Jimmy Song is a Journo and a Fake with no real Stake.
      And Samson Mow is a fucking Agent.
      Bitcoin Core BTC lost all its true anarchists years ago.
      Segwit, Sidechains, Lightning... all unnecessary scams, enablers of sold out control.

  9. apGAY in the house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol

    1. Re: apGAY in the house by c6gunner · · Score: 0

      He's lost whatever little mind he had left ...

    2. Re: apGAY in the house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you narrating your own stolen valor faggot traitor's life now?

  10. Quickest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The quick to debate generally just want you to hear their view and are unwilling to listen to any other

  11. Ah, the lovers of the Dunning-Krugerrands... by cunina · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their antics never fail to entertain.

    1. Re:Ah, the lovers of the Dunning-Krugerrands... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      I haven't watched the video, but the summary reads like a Jerry Springer episode.

      --
      -=This sig has nothing to do with my comment. Move along now=-
    2. Re:Ah, the lovers of the Dunning-Krugerrands... by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      "Dunning-Krugerrands"

      Hmm...I have an idea for a new cypto.

      --
      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  12. Just in time! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    If you look at the realtime prices, you'll see that that both bitcoin and bitcoin cash are crashing again. Cryptocurrency has been on a downward trend since it peaked last December. Buying any of it is just throwing money away.

    --
    Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    1. Re:Just in time! by TheSimkin · · Score: 1

      Bitcoin has been holding it's price for months, not crashing. 6k or more since October 2017. Bcash is dropping very fast though.

    2. Re:Just in time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's volatile not crashing. If it was crashing all the time it would be worth pennies again.

    3. Re:Just in time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To the normal market a 50% decrease in less than a year is definitely considered a crash, but of course the crypto market is "special".

  13. Spoiled brat by leroybrown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.

    --
    Founder, Americans Allied Against Alliteration
    1. Re:Spoiled brat by Carewolf · · Score: 0

      I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.

      Of course they are all of the Trump school of economics.. Yell the loudest, pretend to be the biggest and never back down, or back anything up!

    2. Re:Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Libertarians, Voluntaryists, Anarchists, Cypherpunks... they're able to drop economics, philosophies, political systems, and emotions because they HAVE in fact STUDIED them to know that what they speak IS the better way. The rest of world just hasn't educated themselves on those topics yet, it takes a few years. Your chance to Red Pill and Exit the Matrix will come soon enough. Start web searching those terms in your free time.

      Whereas coders and journos have their heads buried in their own specialties, they're not in a position to know the things above.

      I accept the VALC's as the thought leaders, from which cryptocurrency principles should flow. The coders as the ones who should implement those principles. And the journos as the ones who should announce and promote them.

      ps: "Jimmy Song" is a stage name, and he's a fake player, a journo and an Anti Agent, with no real stake in the game. And Samson Mow is a disgusting weasel whose lies are on his face just like George Bush.

      And though Roger is not always the best of many presenters, he does not hide his name, his actions, or his beliefs. I give him huge props for that.

    3. Re:Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. When choosing cryptocurrencies for the long term, it's critically important to ignore ALL the marketing. You really must look at...

      1) Is it fully decentralized, can it be sued, shutdown, stopped, blocked, censored either entirely, regionally, or even just your own holdings and transactability
      2) Is it fully private and encrypted, can it be observed and datamined by anyone against you and your interests
      3) Does it scale to the expected usage levels of those who would like to use it

      If those three things are not true, it's worthless long term and not worth your time.

      And 1 through 3 are only on the currency level, the minimum necessary to safely exist, store and transact, up against odds and attackers.
      Number 4 is does it do what you want or need on a feature level beyond that.

      Do not fall into the "governance" trap... as it is Government that cryptocurrency is meant to combat and avoid. Otherwise just use fiat, banks, and other nonfreedom things.

    4. Re: Spoiled brat by jd · · Score: 2

      Trust me, none of those you've listenable studied worth a damn and theirs is not the better way. They boast, brag and then rob you blind. If you genuinely want a better way, ignore those offering it. Look for the quiet ones who get the job done. If you need to advertise, you have failed.

      Linux was spread by word of mouth, because it worked. That is how you know it was a good solution.

      --
      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    5. Re: Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      It's cryptocurrency, no one can rob you provided your setup is secure. YOU and YOU ALONE choose the price you get in and out at, You evaluate the Bitconnect scams, You choose what exchanges, markets, vendors and people to transact with.

      You're a Statist, you love sucking your mommy's teat instead of standing on your own. That's not a bad thing, so long as you admit it. Hell, the Libertarians will totally support defend and let you do that, freely forever, provided you in turn DO NOT FORCE them to do whatever you want, such as STEALING from them or MURDERING in their name. That's a pretty awesome and fair deal.

      BTW: OpenBSD and FreeBSD are still here and popular because they just work, without all the fanboyism of Linux. And growing faster and efficiently now that the decade long licensing war delay is over. They don't advertise like Linux, and get the job done.

    6. Re: Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, this was awesome, and truth, made my day, thanks :)

    7. Re: Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, sure, I'll trust anyone who says, "Trust me," because that's how I know they're trustworthy!

    8. Re:Spoiled brat by quantaman · · Score: 2

      I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.

      I've been skeptical of the long term viability for a while but this debate really sealed the deal for me.

      One of the people arguing for Bitcoin was again one of the big names in the community, and he was generally nutty and incoherent. I don't know if he was always that unhinged or if he'd been living inside the bubble for too long, but it was clear that at the highest levels the Bitcoin community isn't able to filter the crazy out. And when a community can't get the crazy out at the top level then the foundations are probably not that stable either.

      --
      I stole this Sig
    9. Re:Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.

      You've heard the expression that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing? That's these guys personified. The governments of this world would do well to make it abundantly clear that in no way shape or form will any individual or institution who buys this crap be bailed out, ever. In fact it should be like banks and drug money. No respectable banker anywhere should want to touch this stuff with a 100 foot pole. It's that bad. Dealing in cryptocurrency should result in loss of bank charter, plain and simple.

    10. Re:Spoiled brat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are more educated then ever, but blinded to wisdom by their own intelligence.

    11. Re:Spoiled brat by leroybrown · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's just a lot of hand-waving and "we must fight the global elites!" Ugh, no thanks. The pro side seems to be just salesmen.

      --
      Founder, Americans Allied Against Alliteration
    12. Re:Spoiled brat by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about bitcoin, or the White House?

  14. Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It is amazing that people can get so passionate about imaginary currency. Imagine if we had debates about imaginary property (or what some call intellectual property) go that way. I guess the doofus crypto-kids should stick to writing software until they learn to act like adults.

    1. Re: Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The dollar and euro are just as imaginative as the crypto currencies. There is nothing backing their value other then then a very basic system of trust, which works fine until you need a wheel barrow to buy a bread.

    2. Re: Wow, amazing by DRJlaw · · Score: 2

      There is nothing backing their value other then then a very basic system of trust...

      where, backed by police forces, their collective units of government require that 25-50% of the value of their GDP be transferred to them in that currency.

      Yes, my friend, 25-50% of the entire productive capacity of hundreds of millions of people is something.

      which works fine until you need a wheel barrow to buy a bread.

      Any system can be screwed up, but only the government can take your wheel barrow. And that is the fundamental difference between a government-backed currency and cryptocurrency.

    3. Re: Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The dollar and euro are just as imaginative as the crypto currencies. There is nothing backing their value other then then a very basic system of trust, which works fine until you need a wheel barrow to buy a bread.

      And keep in mind that a gold brick is equally useless. Diamonds are losing considerable value as this generation doesn't care for them at all, even for engagement rings. Anyone who hoped they could resell their diamonds are taking a wash because no one under thirty will ever buy them. "Want to buy these diamonds?" sounds like "Want to buy this cat poop?" to kids these days.
      Don't keep your money in just gold, or just dollars, or just cryptos, just the bank, or even just cattle. Diversify between hard and liquid assets, but make sure the assets have long term use.

    4. Re: Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy knows Libertarian.
      Thanks!

    5. Re: Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one under thirty can afford to buy diamonds. Or any other 'real' jewelry for that matter. I'm almost 40 and couldn't possibly consider it, I have maybe $2000 slack in a given year, and that doesn't go far when unexpected expenses pop up.

    6. Re: Wow, amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any system can be screwed up, but only the government can take your wheel barrow. And that is the fundamental difference between a government-backed currency and cryptocurrency.

      Unless you keep your wheel barrow on Paypal, that is!

  15. It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bitcoin Cash actually is better than Bitcoin. When the network gets all clogged up Bitcoin Cash performs a LOT better. Like no comparison. But there are a LOT of coins better than Bitcoin in this respect anyway.

    The thing is, most of the value/money in the system of cryptocurrencies is tied up in regular old Bitcoin and these people don't want to see that go away and I doubt it ever will. It also seems the group controlling the Bitcoin protocol don't want to see it change. They LIKE when the network gets all clogged up because fees skyrocket and they make money. Seems like a bit of a conflict of interest there.

    1. Re:It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Bitcoin Cash actually is better than Bitcoin.

      Kind of like how Anthrax is better than Ebola.

    2. Re:It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Bitcoin actually is better than Bitcoin Cash. When the network gets all clogged up Bitcoin performs a LOT better. Like no comparison. But there are a LOT of coins better than Bitcoin Cash in this respect anyway.

      The thing is, most of the value/money in the system of cryptocurrencies is tied up in regular old Bitcoin Cash and these people don't want to see that go away and I doubt it ever will. It also seems the group controlling the Bitcoin Cash protocol don't want to see it change. They LIKE when the network gets all clogged up because fees skyrocket and they make money. Seems like a bit of a conflict of interest there.

    3. Re: It's simple by jd · · Score: 1

      At least Anthrax produces music.

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      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    4. Re:It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't matter.

      Neither BTC or BCH have developed the multilayered decentralized backend UTXO pruning models needed to kill off the storage requirements, nor the TLS overlay encrypted comms and ZKP transaction models needed to survive major analysis and censorship attacks by govenment and corporations.

      BTC and BCH are really behind the curve and wallowing in legacy thinking in those regards. That's a shame.

      Eventually the cryptocurrency world will wake up and refocus for a while on implementing those fundamentals required for any cryptocurrency to succeed.

      Then they will be free again to pursue ICO, joint ownership, supply chains, P2P exchanges, etc.

  16. Well done to all involved by DrXym · · Score: 1

    Your heroes are jackasses and you only had to pay a small fortune to be on some shitty cruise in their presence to find out for yourself.

    1. Re:Well done to all involved by martinX · · Score: 1

      Did they get you to trade
      Your heroes for ghosts?
      Hot ashes for trees?
      Hot air for a cool breeze?
      Cold comfort for change?
      Did you exchange
      A walk on part in the war
      For a lead role in a cage?

      --
      When they came for the communists, I said "He's next door. Take him away. Goddam commies."
  17. News for nerds, stuff that matters. FUCK YOU. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Seriously, whoever posts that shit: I hope you never go outside. Because every single person here would punch your stupid face for being such a fucking cancer of humanity!

    1. Re:News for nerds, stuff that matters. FUCK YOU. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But we all feel the same way about you.

  18. Man overboard by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

    Is it just me, or does a cryptocurrency-themed cruise sound like a living hell, or what?

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
    1. Re:Man overboard by lactose99 · · Score: 0

      About as fun as that RHONY cruise where everyone got dysentery.

      --
      Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
    2. Re: Man overboard by jd · · Score: 2

      I dunno, maybe the ship changes size if you solve a complex maths problem.

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      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    3. Re: Man overboard by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I dunno, maybe the ship changes size if you solve a complex maths problem.

      That's a possibility. But I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that some poor tech-bro is going to use one of his two vacation weeks a year to go on a cruise, where he's going to attend lectures on crypto-currency instead of drinking and relaxing in the sun and having unprotected sex with desperate divorcees.

      What's happened to the world?

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    4. Re: Man overboard by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Or maybe, "Boss, I found a great blockchain conference. We have any travel budget left this year?"

  19. Wrong order by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    You should never go on a cruise to get financial planning advice: you go on the cruise after the financial planning advice you got from somewhere reputable pays off.

    1. Re:Wrong order by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Bzzt. Incorrect. You go on cruise ships to kill a wealthy patron and steal his or her identity.

      --
      Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
  20. c6gunner IMPERSONATING me again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    c6gunner your FAKEname's on a post impersonating me & worse is you altering /. user's words https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as I challenged you to show you do better work and you can't after you tried to mock me you hypocrite LYING loser https://linux.slashdot.org/com... .

    * You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH TOO saying what I don't on spectre/meltdown https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & I haven't had a MacOS X version recompiled for me yet (I don't own a Mac but I have a friend who does & can code (to a good extent, good enough to load FreePascal 3.0.4 + patches & Lazarus 1.8.2 IDE for it in 64-bit to do so but he is a BUSY guy, just waiting on him for it to do this as a FAVOR to me...))

    APK

    P.S.=> Impossible to deny FACT of your FAKEname (for your FAKE wasted lie of a so-called life) on that 1st post link above you unbelievable loser... apk

  21. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    lol cointards gonna cointard

  22. The name of the ship... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Please tell me....

    The Cruise ship is named Titanic !

    passphrase = ' expert '

  23. Hurray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So thankful cryptocurrency has entered into existence and helped to enrich these people who were clearly previously undervalued. I hope high frequency trading firms also have cruises.

    1. Re:Hurray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just throw the high frequency traders on the same cruise as the bitcoiners and watch the bitcoins meltdown because it can't handle the trading volume.

  24. c6gunner IMPERSONATING me again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c6gunner your FAKEname's on a post impersonating me & worse is you altering /. user's words https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as I challenged you to show you do better work and you can't after you tried to mock me you hypocrite LYING loser https://linux.slashdot.org/com... .

    * You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH TOO saying what I don't on spectre/meltdown https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & I haven't had a MacOS X version recompiled for me yet (I don't own a Mac but I have a friend who does & can code (to a good extent, good enough to load FreePascal 3.0.4 + patches & Lazarus 1.8.2 IDE for it in 64-bit to do so but he is a BUSY guy, just waiting on him for it to do this as a FAVOR to me...))

    APK

    P.S.=> Impossible to deny FACT of your FAKEname (for your FAKE wasted lie of a so-called life) on that 1st post link above you unbelievable loser... apk

  25. Parent = c6gunner, LIAR & IMPERSONATOR... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You don't practice what you preach in using your registered 'luser' account as you STALK & IMPERSONATE me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous, lol - hypocrite...

    I know it's you posting this c6gunner you filthy JEW FAKENAME fuck impersonating me for days. Then you copy & paste snippets of my old posts like just now to LIE & IMPERSONATE me as an ANONYMOUS FAKENAME FUCK.

    * You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH TOO saying hosts don't protect against spectre/meltdown (they do) & a MacOS version isn't available (it is). c6gunner your FAKEname's on a post impersonating me & worse is you altering /. user's words as I challenged you to show you do better work and you can't after you tried to mock me you hypocrite LYING loser.

    APK

    P.S.=> That's probably the RESULT of being raised as a "soyboy" weasel for the whimp trying to make me look "bad" impersonating me - RoTfLmAo... apk

  26. Privacy Coins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol at all the non private coins out there.
    Only privacy coins will succeed.
    All others will be tracked and stamped out by Governments.

    Develop and adopt strong financial privacy tech today.

  27. Ah, the graduate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, the graduate from THE UNIVERSITY OF DUMB in you again per as I made that abundantly clear about you https://apple.slashdot.org/com... when I point out how STUPID you are hypocrite!

    * Yes - thanks for showing your face (as usual HIDING behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous on your part weezil) so I can point that one out to everyone so they can laugh @ you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Unbelievable - your IQ must be 10 below plantlife level... apk

  28. Tulip farmers in fisticuffs, film at 11 by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    See, this is why they are normally kept in steerage, especially during South Seas voyages.

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    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  29. Well then! by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

    It seems that they're both about as stable as their favorite cryptocurrency. Kind of poetic, really...

    =Smidge=

  30. Not really by jd · · Score: 1

    I've seen tempers flare at Doctor Who conventions. If you like, imaginary currencies of imaginary races on imaginary worlds.

    Humans have not evolved that much from their common ancestor with chimps, although we're capable of doing so if we like.

    --
    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
  31. Classy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is so classy, I wish to begin Following these BitDudes immediately! Oh wait, no I don't.

    Also, the contrast with the people and behaviours associated with the national currencies couldn't be stronger. Do these BitCelebs have any clue how immature, stupid and unreliable they come off here??

  32. And .... the AC's have it ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It took only 37 seconds to degrade into Anonymous Coward flamewars ...

  33. Great for cryptocurrency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With guys like these representing cryptocurrency to the rest of the world, I'm sure it'll gain mainstream adoption.

  34. Little-known fact: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Lincoln-Douglas Debates were in fact exactly like that. The reporting record was cleaned up somewhat after the event, to make both parties look better.

  35. Staged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hands up, anyone else thought this was staged to get more publicity for Bitcoin?

    Either the event organizer knowingly put two people like fire and tinder together, or the two spontaneously decide to brawl publicly, which just happened to make headlines with "Bitcoin" in it.

    If you believed that was not staged, I have a nice bridge for sale.

  36. Re:And .... the AC's have it ! by supremebob · · Score: 1

    So, wait... the fat guy in the swim trunks is Anonymous Coward? I don't think that we've ever had a sighting of him in person before :)

  37. Needs a David Attenborough narration by Cito · · Score: 1, Funny

    "here we see liberals in the wild as the omega fight over who will be the next beta..."

  38. PR coup by Tom · · Score: 1

    I watched 2 minutes of that and it seems very clear to me that it's a staged act. And look, it worked, it got those two clowns free publicity!

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    Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
  39. Bitcoin Fight by JameyForester · · Score: 1

    Haha! These guys just fought because they argued of Bitcoin future prices : D Besides, I wonder do such guys use special wallets for bitcoin https://bitcoinbestbuy.com/wal..., or they save their btc in other way?

  40. shocked! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am shocked, shocked that the bigwigs of fake pyramid scheme "currency" would be anything but sober, respectable fellows.

  41. Microcosim by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    This kind of thing is representative of what has happened to cryptocurrency since the banking hedonists have gotten into it.
    Besides cowboy hats really piss people off.
    (Though Cowboy Neil makes people happy).

  42. c6gunner IMPERSONATING me again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c6gunner your FAKEname's on a post impersonating me & worse is you altering /. user's words https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as I challenged you to show you do better work and you can't after you tried to mock me you hypocrite LYING loser https://linux.slashdot.org/com... .

    * You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH TOO saying what I don't on spectre/meltdown https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & I haven't had a MacOS X version recompiled for me yet (I don't own a Mac but I have a friend who does & can code (to a good extent, good enough to load FreePascal 3.0.4 + patches & Lazarus 1.8.2 IDE for it in 64-bit to do so but he is a BUSY guy, just waiting on him for it to do this as a FAVOR to me...))

    APK

    P.S.=> Impossible to deny FACT of your FAKEname (for your FAKE wasted lie of a so-called life) on that 1st post link above you unbelievable loser... apk

  43. Ah, the graduate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, the graduate from THE UNIVERSITY OF DUMB in you again as I made that abundantly clear about you per https://apple.slashdot.org/com... where I point out how STUPID you are hypocrite!

    * Yes - thanks for showing your face (as usual HIDING behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous on your part weezil) so I can point that one out to everyone so they can laugh @ you too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Unbelievable - your IQ must be 10 below plantlife level... apk

  44. Re:And .... the AC's have it ! by leonardluen · · Score: 1

    Are we sure it was the real AC? A fat guy in speedos just seem to be more AC's style.

  45. c6gunner SHOOTS HIMSELF down, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You lost any crediblity you had as your FAKEname's on a post impersonating me https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & worse is you altering /. user's words there.

    All because I challenged you to show you do better work and you can't TALKER after you tried to mock me https://linux.slashdot.org/com... .

    So SEEING AS YOU DEMAND PROOF OF OTHERS "I've yet to see you provide any evidence of that." by c6gunner on Monday March 15, 2010 @10:02PM (#31490942) I DEMANDED IT OF YOU & YOU FAILED BIGMOUTH, lol!

    * You're online FAKENAME trash c6gunner & a childish dishonest punk.

    APK

    P.S.=> Impossible to deny FACT of your FAKEname (for your FAKE wasted lie of a so-called life) on that 1st post link above WHERE YOU IMPERSONATED ME like a PETULANT CHILD, you unbelievable loser... apk

  46. How is any of this related to Bitcoin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Come on Slashdot, fix your shit already. This is getting embarassing.