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The New Yorker on Linus Torvalds (newyorker.com)

Linus Torvalds announced on Sunday that he was sorry for how he treated the community over the years. Torvalds, 48, said he planned to make some changes to how he conducted himself, and on that part, he said he would be taking some time off from Linux kernel development work. The New Yorker has published a story on Torvalds today in which it notes that it reached out to Torvalds days before he made the big announcement. From the story, which may be paywalled for some readers: Torvalds's decision to step aside came after The New Yorker asked him a series of questions about his conduct for a story on complaints about his abusive behavior discouraging women from working as Linux-kernel programmers. In a response to The New Yorker, Torvalds said, "I am very proud of the Linux code that I invented and the impact it has had on the world. I am not, however, always proud of my inability to communicate well with others -- this is a lifelong struggle for me. To anyone whose feelings I have hurt, I am deeply sorry."

Torvalds's response was conveyed by the Linux Foundation, which supports Linux and other open-source programming projects and paid Torvalds $1.6 million in annual compensation as of 2016. The foundation said that it supported his decision and has encouraged women to participate but that it has little control over how Torvalds runs the coding process. "We are able to have varying degrees of impact on these outcomes in newer projects," the statement said. "Older more established efforts like the Linux kernel are much more challenging to influence."

Linux's elite developers, who are overwhelmingly male, tend to share their leader's aggressive self-confidence. There are very few women among the most prolific contributors, though the foundation and researchers estimate that roughly ten per cent of all Linux coders are women. "Everyone in tech knows about it, but Linus gets a pass," Megan Squire, a computer-science professor at Elon University, told me, referring to Torvalds's abusive behavior. "He's built up this cult of personality, this cult of importance."

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  1. There are not many female engineers by gweihir · · Score: 5, Informative

    And by all available, reasonably hard facts, it is because women in general want to become engineers significantly less often than men. Stop complaining, let women decide what they want to do in life and accept that! And no, it is not discrimination, harassment or "the patriarchy". It is just that women are fully capable human beings that can make their own decisions on what they want to do in life.

    As a result, you will have significantly less female contributors in any larger tech project, whether in leadership position or more hands-on position. Again, stop complaining about this, it is by choice and it actually shows that women these days make their own decisions regarding what career they want. Implying that all these women that decide not to go into engineering are weak, oppressed little children that cannot make their own decisions or run away crying as soon as some hasher words are used (as is frequently done by "feminists") is one of the most misogynistic and repulsive things I know.

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    1. Re: There are not many female engineers by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am a developer and I lead a highly technical team of 7. My team is all male and it is mainly my fault as I brought 3 of those people on my team in myself. The other 4 were candidates brought forth by our Talent Development team, only one candidate ever in my 4 years here was female.

      That said, I do watch as females in the organization are pounded into verbal submission by male counterparts. We are a challenge-first culture and the females do generally back down. When asked for advice, I remind them they are brilliant and they have incredibly valid opinions and a wealth of knowledge to share and don't let others walk on them.

      It's very possible the reason females don't flock to this industry is a chicken or the egg problem. Maybe they don't like it or maybe the male dominance treats them so poorly or, at the very least, with such indifference, they aren't interested.

      I work hard to be gender agnostic and I know I still harbor unconscious gender bias but the dripping disdain across most of this thread is a bit brutal, TBH.

  2. Re:The moral of the story is by f00zbll · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yup, I'm happy to be an idiot that's spent tens of thousands of hours contributing to various open source projects. I'm glad there are thousands of other people that feel it's more important to contribute to society than acting like a greedy asshole. I will remind you that linus did work for free for many years before linux foundation was created to support linus. I don't agree with how linus treats people or his poor communication skills, but he earned his position. Very few programmers have made such a big contribution. Even though I hate GIT and curse it daily, the work he's done since the early 90's is why he deserves that salary. I remember using slackware and was lucky enough to see linux grow. Compare linus to say steve jobs, Jobs was a bigger asshole and couldn't code himself out of a paper bag!

  3. Re:Asshole by gweihir · · Score: 5, Informative

    As Linus gets pretty much called out every time he is an asshole by, ahem, some special interest parties, it seems he is actually very rarely an asshole.

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  4. Thanks to CoCs we have to by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can please some of the people, all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you simply cannot please all the people all the time. Wise people don't waste effort trying.

    That was before the age of Codes of Conduct. Now the squeaky wheel not only gets the grease, but gets the presumption of wrongdoing on your part because they were ever squeaking in the first place.

  5. Re:Asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This exactly. And those few asshole-moments, when read closely and carefully, seem to be very much targeting bad practices and never (that I have found so far) the person using them.