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MIT Develops New Type of Battery That Gobbles Up Carbon Dioxide (scitechdaily.com)

MIT has developed a new type of battery that could be made partly from carbon dioxide captured from power plants. "Rather than attempting to convert carbon dioxide to specialized chemicals using metal catalysts, which is currently highly challenging, this battery could continuously convert carbon dioxide into a solid mineral carbonate as it discharges," reports SciTechDaily. From the report: While still based on early-stage research and far from commercial deployment, the new battery formulation could open up new avenues for tailoring electrochemical carbon dioxide conversion reactions, which may ultimately help reduce the emission of the greenhouse gas to the atmosphere. The battery is made from lithium metal, carbon, and an electrolyte that the researchers designed. The findings are described today in the journal Joule, in a paper by assistant professor of mechanical engineering Betar Gallant, doctoral student Aliza Khurram, and postdoc Mingfu He. [...] Gallant and her co-workers, whose expertise has to do with nonaqueous (not water-based) electrochemical reactions such as those that underlie lithium-based batteries, looked into whether carbon-dioxide-capture chemistry could be put to use to make carbon-dioxide-loaded electrolytes -- one of the three essential parts of a battery -- where the captured gas could then be used during the discharge of the battery to provide a power output.

This approach is different from releasing the carbon dioxide back to the gas phase for long-term storage, as is now used in carbon capture and sequestration, or CCS. That field generally looks at ways of capturing carbon dioxide from a power plant through a chemical absorption process and then either storing it in underground formations or chemically altering it into a fuel or a chemical feedstock. Instead, this team developed a new approach that could potentially be used right in the power plant waste stream to make material for one of the main components of a battery. While interest has grown recently in the development of lithium-carbon-dioxide batteries, which use the gas as a reactant during discharge, the low reactivity of carbon dioxide has typically required the use of metal catalysts. Not only are these expensive, but their function remains poorly understood, and reactions are difficult to control. By incorporating the gas in a liquid state, however, Gallant and her co-workers found a way to achieve electrochemical carbon dioxide conversion using only a carbon electrode. The key is to preactivate the carbon dioxide by incorporating it into an amine solution.
"What we've shown for the first time is that this technique activates the carbon dioxide for more facile electrochemistry," Gallant says. "These two chemistries -- aqueous amines and nonaqueous battery electrolytes -- are not normally used together, but we found that their combination imparts new and interesting behaviors that can increase the discharge voltage and allow for sustained conversion of carbon dioxide."

The approach reportedly works, producing a lithium-carbon dioxide battery with voltage and capacity that are competitive with that of state-of-the-art lithium-gas batteries," reports SciTechDaily. "Moreover, the amine acts as a molecular promoter that is not consumed in the reaction."

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  1. Could be used in sealed suits? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    It would be really interesting to see if this kind of battery tech could be used in sealed suits (like space suits, or diving rebreather units) to generate some small amount of power just from captured CO2 in exhalation.

    I'm guessing the amount would be so low it's probably not worthwhile...

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    1. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Yes it can definitely be used in your Mars spacesuit to power your Apple Watch while you drive around in your Tesla in the Hyperloop. Why not just say what you are thinking?

    2. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      But do you think it would be able to power the Bitcoin mining rig I'm thinking of building?

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    3. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      From what i understand it is optimized for Blockchain and Deep learning Neural Net AI applications. So it works will for Bitcoin. Especially on Mars.

    4. Re: Could be used in sealed suits? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but it can power a whole Beowulf cluster.

    5. Re: Could be used in sealed suits? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Not only that, but it can power a whole Beowulf cluster.

      A Beowulf cluster of Bitcoin mining rigs, optimized for streaming AI and Deep Learning in the cloud. That sounds like a totally new paradigm.

      I'm in for two.

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    6. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      while you drive around in your Tesla in the Hyperloop.

      My Boring Company Flamethrower produces plenty of CO2, which I will use to power the battery, and the electricity will split water to make more hydrogen fuel for the flamethrower, which closes the perpetual energy Hyperloop, and all the world's energy problems and Global Warming are thus solved.

      . . . and an additional Tesla option will burn the hydrogen with oxygen to produce fresh, desalinated water, so you can water your lawn while chasing the kids off it with your flamethrower.

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    7. Re: Could be used in sealed suits? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      A Beowulf cluster of Bitcoin mining rigs, optimized for streaming AI and Deep Learning in the cloud. That sounds like a totally new paradigm.

      New? Hardly. I don't hear anything about serverless architectures or NodeJS. Sounds legacy to me.

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    8. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You get CO2 in compressed gas bottles ... if that helps.

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    9. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Umm... no, it doesn't help at all, not one little bit, I believe? :(

      "By incorporating the gas in a liquid state, however, Gallant and her co-workers found a way to achieve electrochemical carbon dioxide conversion using only a carbon electrode."

      Liquid CO2, not dry ice, not gaseous. Liquid.

      Compressed gas bottles are... I think... compressed gas CO2, not liquid CO2?

      If I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected, with citations, thanks :)

    10. Re:Could be used in sealed suits? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You are technically not wrong, but to get liquid CO2 you need high pressure.
      As CO2 has under standard pressure no liquid phase, it goes from gas to ice and vice versa, without being liquid.

      However, I have to admit, that the fact that liquid CO2 is used, escaped me :D

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  2. what it really does by religionofpeas · · Score: 5, Funny

    It not only sucks up CO2, it convert it to hype and fully charged buzzwords. And don't forget that multiple cells can be linked in a self-driving IoT blockchain.

  3. trump will buy it by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

    any questions ?

  4. Cute idea! by DogDude · · Score: 2

    That's a cute idea, if it makes batteries less expensive or more efficient. It won't, though, make even a tiny dent in the massive amounts of CO2 that humans are pushing into the atmosphere. Each passenger car puts out an average of 9,737.44 lb/year (https://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPDF.cgi/P100EVXP.PDF?Dockey=P100EVXP.PDF).

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    1. Re:Cute idea! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      That's a cute idea, if it makes batteries less expensive or more efficient. It won't, though, make even a tiny dent in the massive amounts of CO2 that humans are pushing into the atmosphere. Each passenger car puts out an average of 9,737.44 lb/year

      The main reason it won't make a dent is that lithium metal has to be manufactured somehow.

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  5. Re:Great by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    How many battery inventions have been mentioned, that's never been commercially available?

    I give up. How many?

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  6. End Results Needed = by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    Capacity, Cost & Safety. If the reasearchers can prove superior results on these points it is a go!

  7. NO, NO, NO! by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    How the hell are you going to convince joe-six-pack to give up their hydrocarbons if you do this?! #sarcasm

  8. designed electrolytes? by AngelFrog · · Score: 1

    Do it's made of lithium metal, carbon and an electrolyte the researchers designed. Ok i understand lithium metal and carbon but... what are electrolytes?

    1. Re:designed electrolytes? by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      An electrolyte is a substance that conducts electricity when dissolved in water. Lead batteries use sulfuric acid dissolved in (distilled) water for this. Your body needs several electrolytes for its internal functions.

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    2. Re: designed electrolytes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Electrolytes are what plants crave. Duh.
      #Brawndo

  9. Interesting... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they'll capture enough to make a significant weight difference, and come marked with the exact weight of the battery, so you can throw it on a scale and check its remaining capacity that way. (Assuming also that increase in weight corresponds to diminished electrical voltage or ability to supply current at or near the rated voltage, of course.) It would be kinda neat. This would give rise to a new iteration of an old saying:

    There's lies, damned lies, and battery CO2-capture-capacity-remaining specifications.

    Hehehe....

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    1. Re:Interesting... by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Given that they're being said to have specs like Li-gas batteries--which is probably what I'm getting seen called Li-air elsewhere--your scale's going to have to be huge. Li-air batteries are being looked at for EVs...and given that the cathode here is looks to be carbon dioxide, it's probably going to be probably a very safe pick. ('Safe' as in 'you do not really need gloves to handle a leaking one' which...you should with most lithium batteries on the market.)

      Also, most electrochemical reactions can be relatively easily run 'backwards,' recharging the battery. The actual sticking point is how safely you can pull this off--non-rechargable ones are the ones where the risk of explosions and/or fires are significantly higher than success. (Well, okay, you can also take it apart, recycle everything, and remake it with relatively little loss of the reactants--that will depend primarily on your yields which depends on the RNG and your chemistry skills--but that's not what you probably think of as 'recharging.')

  10. Fossil fuel industry research by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    It sounds like the fossil fuel industry is putting out $millions in research grants to anyone who can produce headline-grabbing technologies that make fossil fuels sound less bad. And I guess universities are stepping up to cash in on these research grants. Who knows, maybe something good will come out of this through serendipity? Perhaps some useful scientific discovery?

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  11. Re:So what you're saying is.. by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 2

    We gotta pollute the world with co2 before we can use said co2 to power our vehicles

    so the atmosphere is just a transport channel now?

    'Now'? It has been a transport channel for a lot of things, including carbon dioxide, for an absurdly long time. You can even, on occasion, see water vapor being transported in the atmosphere without any special equipment.

  12. Re: All Our Problems Are Solved! by tigersha · · Score: 1

    If you think Europe is SocJus city think again

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  13. Re:silver bullets... by PetiePooo · · Score: 1

    We could use a lot of silver bullets to cut the population in half. Then a whole lot of problems go away.

    Go home, Thanos. You're drunk.