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Despite Outrage From Users, Microsoft Continues To Install Bloatware Applications Onto Every Windows 10 PC (windowscentral.com)

Before Windows 10, a clean install of Windows only included the bare essentials a user would need to get started using their PC. With Windows 10, a clean install stays that way for about two minutes, because the second you hit the desktop, the Microsoft Store immediately starts trying to download third-party apps and games. Users have long complained about it, but it turns out Microsoft never put paid to it. Windows Central writes: And these apps keep trying to install themselves even after you cancel the downloads. There are six such apps, which is six too many. These apps are often random, but right now they include things like Candy Crush, Spotify, and Disney Magic Kingdoms. You should not see any of these apps on a fresh install of Windows 10, yet they are there every single time. There are policies you can set that disable these apps from automatically installing, but that's not the point. On a fresh, untouched, clean install of Windows 10, these apps will download themselves onto your PC. Even if you cancel the installation of these apps before they manage to complete the download, they will retry at a later date, without you even noticing. The only way I've found that gets rid of them permanently is to let them install initially, without canceling the download, and then uninstall the apps from the Start menu. If you cancel the initial download of the bloatware apps before they complete their first install, the Microsoft Store will just attempt to redownload them later and will keep doing so until that initial install is complete. This is not a good user experience, Microsoft.

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  1. What outrage? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's no real outrage - people still keep buying the accursed thing in massive numbers. If anyone was really outraged, they would get something else.

    1. Re:What outrage? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If anyone was really outraged, they would get something else.

      Most are annoyed by Windows antics, not "outraged". Compatibility and familiarity trumps the alternatives so far.

      Macs are more expensive and don't run a lot of software titles, Google also pulls marketing shenanigans, Linux is unfamiliar and is hard to get help for unless you want to put up with impatient volunteers lacking people skills (I'm just the messenger).

      Until the alternatives improve, people will put up with a degree of MS spamware and forced upgrades. In the land of C-, you can stay D+ for a long time.

    2. Re:What outrage? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's pretty hard to buy a computer with it pre-installed and supported

      Define "Linux". The second most popular type of laptop computer right now are Chromebooks, which do everything most people need (and will cover a much greater percentage of those left's needs once Crostini is ready.) I've stopped recommending Windows machines to family members who have problems with computers. a Chromebook fits their requirements perfectly, with no risk of being bamboozed by calls from "Windows" about viruses on their computers.

      The scope of the environment Microsoft controls is reducing rapidly. Nerds can run Ubuntu (or I guess a Ubuntu fork, because Ubuntu isn't hipster compliant enough); people who need a computer to write emails, browse the web, and occasionally pay their taxes or write letters, are well served by Chromebooks. Macs have their creativity niche. Which leaves Windows as a gamers platform, for those gamers who want something a little more mod friendly than a console.

      Everyone has choices right now.

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  2. Well... by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They probably paid Microsoft more for access than you did for your operating system. Enjoy being captive to this new customer experience!

  3. Re:Malware installs bloatware... by sconeu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because some of our clients have specialized equipment with interface software that only runs on Windows?

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  4. Re:Malware installs bloatware... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't understand tech people that still uses crap like Windoze...

    I don't understand humans that still use air from the atmosphere to breathe.
    I don't understand rail commuters that still board trains.
    I don't understand grass seed companies that still use fescue seeds.

    Windows is the most common platform out there- of course a large number of tech workers are still going to be using it.

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  5. Re: Malware installs bloatware... by Sique · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It might be shitty bloatware, but there are no alternatives (other than those also running on Windows), and the complexity of the problem does not allow for an inhouse re-development, as there are not enough installs to rectify the cost.

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  6. Newflash.. by sqorbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft doesn't care what users think. Anyone who is surprised at this is just being silly. Microsoft has shown no desire to actually cater to users. Edge is quite possibly the most horrible web browser ever produced and they force it upon users. Windows 8 interface was a total failure, yet they still crammed it into the Windows 10 menu. These are only some examples. Microsoft has no motivation to actually make positive changes for end users.

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    1. Re:Newflash.. by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Microsoft doesn't care what users think. Anyone who is surprised at this is just being silly. Microsoft has shown no desire to actually cater to users.

      You are not the customer. You are the product. Your usage info and access to your computer (to force-install programs) is being sold to the actual customers - companies wanting marketing info and to sell you things.

      The difference is Facebook and Google have to give their product away for free to get people to agree to be the product. Microsoft somehow still manages to get people to pay for the "privilege" of becoming the product.

  7. Re:First sentence by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait, USB drivers were not bloatware. They just didn't work.

    There's a difference.

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  8. Even on Pro by Yggdrasil42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The even more ridiculous thing is that this happens even on the Pro version. The one that's supposed to be for doing work. And those "policies you can set that disable these apps from automatically installing"? Yeah, they don't work anymore. As a result every employee gets Candy Crush and the like installed on every machine. Absolutely insane.

  9. No alternatives by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If anyone was really outraged, they would get something else.

    That implies that there is something else for them to get. There really isn't. Microsoft was convicted in court of having a monopoly. Do you know what that word means? It means there aren't other options on the PC. The only other options are linux which perpetually lags Windows on the PC desktop in application options and the OS X which is both pricey and ties you to Apple. Both linux and OS X are fine options for some but as much as it irritates me to say it, Windows is the best offering available for a lot of people and companies. A lot of software people want is only available on Windows. If the people around you use Windows chances are high you will too. If you play games on your PC it's a virtual certainty are you are running Windows to do it.

  10. Internet overages by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Grooming" will not recover the $10 per GB that your satellite or fixed-wireless ISP bills you for having downloaded the apps in the first place.

  11. With Windows 10, you no longer own your computer by lophophore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once you install Windows 10, you no longer own your computer. Microsoft can install what ever they want on it, and reboot it when ever they want. That also gives them the ability to remove anything they want from your computer.

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  12. Re:solution? by swilver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, put Win10 behind a firewall + proxy. Then only give the applications that need internet access the address/pw of the proxy and donot set the proxy of Windows itself. For Chrome you'll need FoxyProxy to set one without using the system settings.

    You may also need software like Proxifier to have other application go through your proxy.

    Net effect: Nothing has internet unless you allow it, resulting in a much more relaxing experience (apps donot download updates, and generally just donot do stuff behind your back without your knowledge). Windows cannot updates its tiles, nor download software, nor update itself. It's quite peaceful.

  13. Except that you can not by Cyberax · · Score: 4, Informative

    The thing is, you simply can NOT buy Win 10 Enterprise unless you are a large company. They sell licenses starting with 50 users.