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Microsoft Launches Office 2019 For Windows and Mac (theverge.com)
Microsoft is releasing Office 2019 for Windows and Mac today. The update is designed for businesses and consumers that haven't opted into Microsoft's Office 365 service with monthly feature updates. The Verge: Office 2019 is essentially a subset of features that have been added to Office 365 over the past three years, and it includes updates to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Project, Visio, Access, and Publisher. Office 2019 will include a roaming pencil case and ribbon customizations across all Office apps. Microsoft is also bringing focus mode to Word, alongside a new translator, and accessibility improvements. Morph transitions, SVG and 3D model support, play in-click sequence, and 4k video export are all coming to PowerPoint. According to VentureBeat, which cites a Microsoft executive, the new versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook won't receive future updates.
But what kind of retarded sadist would open themselves up to Microsoft's chicanery on a Mac? I want names of these stupid people so I can fleece them also.
Microsoft launches yet another all-grey cannot-discern-anything UI abomination.
FTFY.
Compare Office 2019 to the last sane version of ribbonized Office, which was 2010.
The features I have been waiting for: roaming pencil case and play in-click sequence. Whatever they are charging, it isn't enough.
It's not like the last >20-30 years brought any meaningful changes, let alone changes that anyone actually uses.
It's gonna be a UI design change (for the worse), to trick you into feeling like something changed, a few trinkets here and there, and of course the hefty load of "cloud AI $buzzword digital assistant $buzzword" spyware that is "all the rage" among true psychopaths nowadays.
Sure, Take Two uses that shit because of being already infected by the outlook malware
I'm still on Office 2010. I don't understand the point of these "upgrades" (Google just did the same thing to gmail). Basically all they do is make me re-learn an interface I'm already comfortable and in return they introduce zero useful functionality.
I guess a few years ago it was a big innovation to use all caps in the menu headings?
Don't you know? "Depression gray" is currently the most popular color. Look around you... It's everywhere. People literally paint their walls in it, *and like it*!
You know, that "color" that they used in the past, to show the most depressing dystopic city office drone scenarios in, as a contrast to what people liked.
Now the post-hipster world, where everyone is an unstable pussy and boringness is somehow attractive, this is what I see people gravitate towards.
I wonder if the generation after it will rebel again, or become even worse ...
The new features are so revolutionary compared to Office 2016 that the version number 2017 wouldn't do it justice. Neither the version number 2018. We think it deserves a jump ahead by 3 versions. Welcome to Office 2019!
Old version still works. Why do i need the new buggy version?
I'd pay good money for the next version of Office if they'd let the user ditch the ribbon for the classic menu drop-downs.
Every story is fucking Microsoft bullshit today. Pleb computing is not news for nerds.
Stop speading that meme! It is the only reason anyone thinks that in the first place!
Go actually ask the average person out there. Of course they care! Even more than we do, nowadays! It has become mainstream. At least here in the EU.
It's just that with them struggling like motherfuckers to even live a decent life, there are so many things way higher on the list than this.
See it like prostitution. Nobody likes being fucked in the anus raw by a fat 60-year-old sack, but how many days are you gonna keep suffering from starvation, homelessness in the winter and being harassed by citizens for not being a slave whore, err I mean not having a job, err I mean being a "moocher", until the former becomes the less painful option.
Sure, this is a hyperbole, and it is not that bad yet. But it is analogous, and illustrates the point well.
So when MS announced the extended support dates for 2019, they cut 3 years off of it and this version goes completely EOL the same day as 2016 on-prem does. In addition they will begin to restrict cloud services (like 365 hosted exchange) access to 365 versions soon.
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Well, for years office for Mac was developed by an independent team and was widely considered to be a better product than office for pc. But donâ(TM)t let that get in the way of having a rant!
Whilst much of what Microsoft does may not be to everyoneâ(TM)s taste, itâ(TM)s a multi faceted company and to generalise would be wrong. Back when windows 95 was a piece of shit and I was starting to run Linux, I still used a Microsoft natural keyboard and intellimouse because they were great.
Since Office 97?
Seriously?
Corporatism != Free Market
Seems I have the capacity to hate them both.
Meh! M-E-H, Meh.
Microsoft have had 27 years to get office in a state where it does exactly what the end-user wants it do to...
Unfortunately they have failed miserably and the entire suite is still a shiny polished turd of limited functionality.
It would seem from my opinion they have never actually had the will power or skill to fix Office or they have never ever spoken to one of the many frustrated end-users.
oh well never mind, all hail the coming of Office 2020!
To stupid to actually use unix/linux is why
Over the years, but unless you're a power user, especially in Excel there's no reason to go past 03-07.
There's quite a few things I can do to manipulate data in 2016 that would be much harder or impossible in older versions.
I just wish Libre was on par with those features because I would prefer using that.
No, you can use Outlook 2019 to access O365, it's only Office 2016 that will be unable to connect after 10/13/2020 (end of mainstream support for 2016). Outlook 2019 will work until Q4 2024.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
Thanks for answering my question, what kind of moron would subject themselves to M$ bullshit and vulnerabilities on a Mac. I guess you're one of them. Oh, yeah it's not only bloatware, it's a vuln suite. Given the alternatives you're a fool.
I actually use this a lot. Is pretty helpful for me.
Sad that it is being removed and there really isn't a replacement.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
That's the new Miscreant-o-sodomite business model: Make everyone pay for everything, forever.
Fuck this whole 'software-as-a-service' bullshit, fuck it sideways with a rusty chainsaw, I say.
Office 2019 will include a roaming pencil case and ribbon customizations across all Office apps. Microsoft is also bringing focus mode to Word, alongside a new translator, and accessibility improvements. Morph transitions, SVG and 3D model support, play in-click sequence, and 4k video export are all coming to PowerPoint.
And ... what is the advantage of all that over LibreOffice again? For 99.9999% of people?
Yes, the network effect, everyone else uses it ... surely they can't coast on that forever?
...if there weren't so many problems with using it in a "modern" environment.
Its properties editor and class system with inheritance are my favorite to this day. And LibreOffice just got sone layouting functionality, that it had, 20 years ago.
I stopped using such systems altogether though, since I learned HTML/CSS, TeX and DTP software, and got into proper scripting.
No, you can use Outlook 2019 to access O365, it's only Office 2016 that will be unable to connect after 10/13/2020 (end of mainstream support for 2016). Outlook 2019 will work until Q4 2024.
The February announcement wasn't really clear on that, I'll admit. They made it sound like all perpetual license versions would be barred. Either way, it looks like they backed down on that on September 1, moving the date for 2016 to October 2023.
However they have not walked back the ESED date for 2019. It's still the same date (10/14/2025).
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Well, for years office for Mac was developed by an independent team and was considered by MacToddlers to be a better product than office for pc.
FTFY.
I'm sure everyone can argue the merits of the new Office, hell LibreOffice does everything I need it to, so that's what I use. But the features aside, let's take a moment to remember that no one knew for sure up to a point if Office 2019 was actually going to be a thing or not. Microsoft had indicated that 365 was the future, and if I was a betting person, this 2019 may be the last "retail" version we see. That isn't to say there will never be an offline version, but I feel that the days where Microsoft sells Office to John and Jane Doe are starting to sunset.
That said, I figure I'd point out a few new things for this release. That's not to say any or all of these things justify the price or that this is everything, it's just a list of features I found interesting.
Word 2019
Add the ability to use LaTeX notation to do mathematical equations. Ability to understand SVG with filters, better SVG rendering. Better 4K support. Several accessibility fixes and new features such as configurable audio cues for features and UI theme for hard of seeing.
Excel 2019
New visualizations. Publish to a Power BI server from Excel. Embedded Power Query and Power Pivot into the main product. Namespaces for Excel functions. Some Excel functions can be remoted using a style similar to JS promises. Custom functions for use in Excel can now be written in JavaScript. Excel now offers connectors for Flow. New Insight functionality. Multiple users can edit a workbook if stored on a SharePoint server or in OneDrive.
PowerPoint 2019
New animations, transitions, and so on. (Think copy of all the on-line guys like Perzi and what not). Hardware pens that are used in Windows 10 can now be used to present. Tighter integration between Excel and PowerPoint to allow the same visualizations there to be used in PowerPoint.
That's the big three there and those are just the new features I found to be interesting. There's more. Oh also, the chart engine for MS Access has been completely redone and there's a few new data types added to Access. However all these features said, there are some features in 2019 that won't be there that will only be in 365. An example is the ability to @ anyone anywhere in the big three of Office and it show up in their Outlook.
just seems like an pointless arsehole move.
Libre Office
Jesus wept.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I wish Excel included more advanced analysis and charting features like those found in some of the statistical software packages. Beyond Pivot Tables, I haven't really seen a feature added that is actually useful in daily use in the past few releases. I trade a lot of the fluff to be able to do some better charting and forecasting without having to whip out SPSS or Minitab.
Unfortunately they have failed miserably and the entire suite is still a shiny polished turd of limited functionality
An yet it is the most widely used office software that ever has been. Probably makes more money for Microsoft what all their other products combined. If you call this a shiny polished turd of limited functionality, I wonder what your ideal of premium software is.
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What planet do you live on that Office for hte Mac was "widely considered to be a better product" clearly not someone who has had to support Office for the Mac professionally on 100s of Macs. This statement made me audibly guffaw and laugh
What planet do you live on that Office for hte Mac was "widely considered to be a better product" clearly not someone who has had to support Office for the Mac professionally on 100s of Macs. This statement made me audibly guffaw and laugh
Probably depends on how far back you've been doing that. Compared to the horror that was Word 6, Office 98 for Mac was freaking amazeballs and many contemporaneous reviews pointed out that it had more core features than Office 97 (except for some Windows-specific OLE stuff and PC-only apps) and supported various Mac technologies on a first-class basis rather than through slow emulation layers.
On top of that, in a time when Installers (especially Windows-port Installers) were ungodly wizard affairs, a true self-contained folder-drag install process was a God-send... so much so that its simplicity helped push the benefits of what Mac users now refer to as bundles. This wasn't common on the Mac at the time if your application wasn't already a single-file, so for a "suite" package it was pretty remarkable.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
It's the last version with only a little bit of annoying "hey, ever considered going online!" "hey, hey you! listen, how's about that subscription"
"hey, we can offer *THIS* feature too, just SIGN IN HERE,...!"
and so on and so forth.
2013 is a pretty competent office suite.
I strongly suspect, very strongly suspect that Office 2019 is /probably/ more like "Office 365, offline demo edition, with splash screen reminders, endlessly"
Hey fuck face, "too".
Image backup is more important than the primary task of the user? Fuck off.
Any large company is going to have a backup solution already. A windows shop would likely have a server that does it automatically for the user, like Essentials if they are small enough, instead of brain dead Mac user trying to use Windows app on their own.
Charging for each character typed?
all useful features a extra subscription.
Entirely cloud based.
takes a week to load on a 1gig connection.
Popup adverts as part of core program.
They can keep their shit to themselves.
What does it mean launching it today? It is not available for me in msdn downloads. Looking for mac version.
Office Professional Plus 2019 will be released with Click-to-Run installation technology only. We are not providing MSI as a deployment methodology for Office Professional Plus 2019.
Meh, O365 all the way here. Forced to for security updates & support compliance, otherwise past history would suggest we'd be thinking about moving to v2019 about 2025...
If Windows 7 was their last decent operating system, what was Microsoft's last decent office suite?
2016 needed you to identify yourself so you could use a word processor. Now 2019 improves this experiences by requiring your SSN!
Microsoft is so trustworthy.. NOT.