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Vigilante Engineer Stops Waymo From Patenting Key Lidar Technology (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: A lone engineer has succeeded in doing what Uber's top lawyers and expert witnesses could not -- overturning most of a foundational patent covering arch-rival Waymo's lidar laser ranging devices. Following a surprise left-field complaint by Eric Swildens, the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has rejected all but three of 56 claims in Waymo's 936 patent, named for the last three digits of its serial number. The USPTO found that some claims replicated technology described in an earlier patent from lidar vendor Velodyne, while another claim was simply "impossible" and "magic." The 936 patent played a key role in last year's epic intellectual property lawsuit with Uber. In December 2016, a Waymo engineer was inadvertently copied on an email from one of its suppliers to Uber, showing a lidar circuit design that looked almost identical to one shown in the 936 patent.

The patent describes how a laser diode can be configured to emit pulses of laser light using a circuit that includes an inductor and a gallium nitride transistor. That chance discovery helped spark a lawsuit in which Waymo accused Uber of patent infringement and of using lidar secrets supposedly stolen by engineer Anthony Levandowski. In August 2017, Uber agreed to redesign its Fuji lidar not to infringe the 936 patent. Then, in February 2018, Waymo settled the remaining trade secret theft allegations in exchange for Uber equity worth around $245 million and a commitment from Uber not to copy its technology. "This includes an agreement to ensure that any Waymo confidential information is not being incorporated in Uber hardware and software," said a Waymo spokesperson at the time. That redesign now seems to have been unnecessary, says Swildens, the engineer who asked the USPTO to take a closer look at 936. "Waymo's claim that Uber infringed the 936 patent was spurious, as all the claims in the patent that existed at the time of the lawsuit have been found to be invalid," he said. Uber told Ars that despite the ruling, it would not be redesigning its lidars yet again.
Swildensj, an employee at a small cloud computing startup, reportedly "spent $6,000 of his own money to launch a formal challenge to 936," reports Ars. "In March, an examiner noted that a re-drawn diagram of Waymo's lidar firing circuit showed current passing along a wire between the circuit and the ground in two directions -- something generally deemed impossible. 'Patent owner's expert testimony is not convincing to show that the path even goes to ground in view of the magic ground wire, which shows current moving in two directions along a single wire,' noted the examiners dryly."

"As I investigated the 936 patent, it became clear it was invalid due to prior art for multiple reasons," Swildens told Ars. "I only filed the reexamination because I was absolutely sure the patent was invalid."

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  1. Vigilante? by siriuskase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this the correct word for this?

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    1. Re:Vigilante? by siriuskase · · Score: 1, Insightful

      sheesh, i remember when first post was something you had to strive for. Now, it just kinda happens. Maybe I just read the article faster than the next guy.

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    2. Re:Vigilante? by Sique · · Score: 1

      If the subject was about a "vigilant engineer", then it would have been correct, as "vigilant" means "awake, watchful, alert, wary".

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    3. Re: Vigilante? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Sounds like something from CantUbery Tales.

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  2. This is the real innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    > current passing along a wire between the circuit and the ground in two directions
    Now we can finally get rid of all those nasty high voltage wires and use only ground to transmit power everywhere.

  3. How many years will patents delay self-driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How many years will patents delay self-driving cars? 5? 10? 30? How many preventable road deaths will happen in the intervening period?

    I am not a health and safety fanatic, but there comes a time when you have to question whether the USPTO should wield as much power as it evidently does.

    And yes, I am aware that the USPTO, on this one occasion, did reject a large number of spurious patents.

    1. Re:How many years will patents delay self-driving by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      Or is it a question that without patents at all would companies have invested so heavily in new technology to the extent that we can even imagine self driving vehicles today.

    2. Re:How many years will patents delay self-driving by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1, Redundant

      One could ask how many years will corporate trade secrets and obfuscation delay pie-in-the-sky-hypetech?

      Or something of that nature. Patents only last for a limited time, and then become a gift to humanity.

      I know it isn't popular to acknowledge that here, and my exposition of this reality will be hammered to pieces by the 'wits' who hang out in these discussions....

  4. Sometimes current flows both ways by Lije+Baley · · Score: 2

    Like if the circuit oscillates. I didn't see it but they did mention an inductor and "pulses"...

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    1. Re: Sometimes current flows both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You missed the diode

    2. Re: Sometimes current flows both ways by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Diodes are also always capacitors.

    3. Re: Sometimes current flows both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All components are always all passives. In most applications the effect is insignificant and can be ignored.
      Sometimes you have to take into consideration that resistors are inductors and capacitors, most times you don't.
      Sometimes it really matters that PCB-traces are all three.

    4. Re:Sometimes current flows both ways by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

      Yeah but it still happens in only one direction at a time.

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    5. Re:Sometimes current flows both ways by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Page 15 of this document: https://www.documentcloud.org/...

      The examiner is right, it's nonsense. They are trying to build some kind of charge pump buy turning a FET on and off, but their "replenishment current" is coming from ground. Ground is shown both sinking and sourcing current.

      Maybe they build some clever supply system that they are referring to as ground here, but in that case it's rather odd that they used the standard symbol for ground and not something else. In either case it's a glaring mistake.

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    6. Re: Sometimes current flows both ways by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Diodes are always capacitors in a significant way. It isn't a little parasitic amount.

  5. Re:JEWgle being JEWS is why (thieves) by murdocj · · Score: 1

    Adolph, is that you?

  6. This is fixable by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

    Patent owner's expert testimony is not convincing to show that the path even goes to ground in view of the magic ground wire, which shows current moving in two directions along a single wire,' noted the examiners dryly.

    "We'd like to submit an amendment: ... moving in two directions along a single wire over the Internet."
    "Oh, that makes much more sense now. Patent upheld. Sorry if we sounded dry about it earlier."

  7. Hero! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    Maybe the other self driving car companies should write him a cheque - he saved them millions.

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    1. Re:Hero! by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2

      In an ideal world ... maybe. In our world: "what would the shareholders think of us paying someone who did us some good for free ?"

  8. Patent bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Build a working prototype or GTFO.

    Congress: Make it so.

    1. Re:Patent bullshit by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      A working prototype should be essential to get a patent. Allowing people to get a patent on "Ideas" stifles progress. And the patent application should require sufficient information to allow you to build it or no patent. The entire point of patents is to spread knowledge of new technology. For software that should include source code. And software should only be covered by patent, not copyright. If Microsoft wants legal protection they should have to file the source code for Windows and Office.

  9. Kind of makes you wonder by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 2

    How many patents are out there that are also bullshit magic that didn't get noticed ?

  10. USPTO asleep on the job by lordlod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not news I know, but there was someone who's job it was to investigate these patents, to understand them and look for prior art.

    The fact that a third party had to commit $6000 and a huge amount of personal time comes down to the fact that the patent examiner clearly didn't do their job.

    While the work of Swildens should be celebrated, we shouldn't lose sight of the failings of the USPTO which required it.

    1. Re: USPTO asleep on the job by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      No one wants to give the patent office enough money to do the job well.

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    2. Re:USPTO asleep on the job by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      The job of the USPTO is to make money on patent applications, and to enrich American companies by giving them something worth money. Actually examining patent applications for meeting patent law or not having prior art doesn't appear to be in their job description.

    3. Re: USPTO asleep on the job by orangepeel · · Score: 2

      Are you trying to make a sick joke?

      Thousands of employees who review patents for the federal government cheated taxpayers out of at least $18.3 million as they billed the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for almost 300,000 hours they never worked, according to a new investigation by the agency’s watchdog.

      The report released Wednesday determined that the full scale of fraud is probably double those numbers. Investigators said they interpreted the data they gathered conservatively, often giving employees the benefit of the doubt for the time they reportedly worked.


      ...

      Patent office workers bilked the government of millions by playing hooky, watchdog finds

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    4. Re: USPTO asleep on the job by houghi · · Score: 1

      The USPTO got the money for the patents, so it worked as designed.what should happen if prior art is detectedd, bothe the company and the patent office need to pay a fine.

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    5. Re: USPTO asleep on the job by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      Thousands of employees who review patents for the federal government cheated taxpayers out of at least $18.3 million as they billed the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for almost 300,000 hours they never worked, according to a new investigation by the agency's watchdog.

      Out of an annual budget of ~$3.6 billion, that means about 0.05% if I counted decimal places correctly. I dare you to name an industry where you think there's less than a tenth of a percent of overbilling of work hours.

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  11. Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    "The patent describes how a laser diode can be configured to emit pulses of laser light using a circuit that includes an inductor and a gallium nitride transistor."

    Every time I read stuff like this, I can only think I spent my life doing it wrong. I should of been figuring out how to get patents on stuff everybody knew about and was using anyway. Wow when a laser diode goes forward biased it will drain the stored energy from an inductor SMH.

    1. Re: Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by houghi · · Score: 1

      Not to late to change carree. Just replace "on the internet" with "on a self driving car" on the last patent-trolling-wave we had. Boom, money.

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    2. Re:Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      You actually should have been learning the difference between "have" and "of".

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    3. Re:Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      You actually should have been learning the difference between "have" and "of".

      Shame you are almost correct, a little more thought an you wouldn't be wrong. That would be should've vs should have.

    4. Re:Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      There is no meaningful difference between these. The one is just a contraction of the other.

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    5. Re:Sounds like a relaxation oscillator by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      There is no meaningful difference between these. The one is just a contraction of the other.

      Once again almost correct but that is still wrong. Tell me did you have rough potty training ? You seem rather anal.

  12. Really - soem sort of reverse recovery circuit? by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

    It looks like they are using the reverse recover charge in the diode. as an undergrad I though I discovered the effect in 1983, but soon learned that it was well known. (used it to trigger a krytron for a pockels cell driver). (one small diode and inductor to make a KV pulse).

    People who do pulse power systems know about a wide variety of tricks.

    If they are looking for a fast (ns), high current (~100A, 100V), switches, there are much better tricks these days. We just dusted off an old 1KV, 20A, 100ps rise / fall, 2ns wide pulser we built about 10 years ago (tiny circuit) along with it big brother - 6KV, 120A, 200ps pulser.

  13. New review system by aberglas · · Score: 1

    I think that the ability to file a request to have a patent reviewed is very new. And good. There are still restrictions, I think there is a short time limit for such reviews.

    Previously, I think the only way to have a patent reviewed was to have the owner sue you, and you lose everything if the jury in E. Texas rules against you.

  14. checking when challenged not when applied? by AlwinBarni · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    Swildensj, an employee at a small cloud computing startup, reportedly "spent $6,000 of his own money to launch a formal challenge to 936,"

    The USPTO found that some claims replicated technology described in an earlier patent from lidar vendor Velodyne, ...

    Shouldn't it be the job of the patent office to check new patent applications against existing patents or publications, like ... when applied and not when challenged?