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Nintendo President: Our Future Is As an 'Entertainment' Company (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Nintendo of America President and COO Reggie Fils-Aime appeared at Seattle's Geekwire Summit on Wednesday to speak broadly about the company's future, and, while the talk didn't include new product reveals, it proved illuminating about what to expect from the big N in the future. The short version: Nintendo would rather be defined as an "entertainment" company, not a gaming one. Fils-Aime says the company currently has three "pieces of business": a dedicated video game business ("the way most of our consumers interact with us"), a mobile gaming business, and "leveraging our intellectual property (IP) in a variety of ways." The latter includes previously announced plans for a Universal Studios attraction in Osaka, Japan (still slated to open ahead of Tokyo's next Olympics hosting run in 2020) and a Super Mario film produced by Illumination Entertainment (Minions, Despicable Me). When asked about Nintendo's future focus on a company-wide level, Fils-Aime said: "It's about Mario, Zelda, Pokemon -- all these wonderful intellectual properties. How we leverage these across a variety of entertainment platforms is how we're looking to grow the company."

He went on to say that he doesn't see Xbox and PlayStation as competitors. Ars reports: "He counted the exact number of minutes per day and said that outside of the time a consumer spends eating, sleeping, working, and going to school, 'all of the rest of that time is entertainment time. That's what I compete for, minute by minute. That time you spend surfing the Web, watching a movie, watching a telecast of a conference: that's all entertainment time we're competing for. My competitive set is much bigger than my direct competitors in Sony and Microsoft. I compete for time. When I do that, I have to be creative and innovative in order to win that battle.'"

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  1. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    When asked about Nintendo's future focus on a company-wide level, Fils-Aime said: "It's about Mario, Zelda, Pokemon -- all these wonderful intellectual properties. How we leverage these across a variety of entertainment platforms is how we're looking to grow the company."

    What about Metroid, you insensitive clod?

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    1. Re: Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a strong female lead game. Cant be promoting that.

    2. Re: Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I'd love to see that (NSFW).

    3. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least we're getting Prime 4. (Please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck...)

      Also, new F-Zero game fukken when, Nintendo?

    4. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Metroid has always been a red-headed step child as far as Nintendo's love has been concerned. I don't know if I fully fault them either as despite the Prime series being great, they weren't enough to justify the kind of investment that fans of the series want. Zelda and Mario games are close to an order of magnitude better in terms of sales. Pokemon put even those heavy hitters to shame and is pretty much a fucking printing press.

      I almost want to dig the Wii out of the closet so I can play the Prime trilogy again.

    5. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if Metroid was a girl?

    6. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What about some NEW characters? These guys were all invented in the 1980s..... the fucking 8-bit era. Surely they can invent some new heroes in the modern 64-bit era? Maybe? Possibly?

      Sadly no. It appears most innovation comes from third party companies.

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    7. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Metroid, you insensitive clod?

      I just want another Earthbound or F-Zero, myself. Everyone knows who these characters are, it's not like you would be unable to sell them.

    8. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      I have an Inkling they're still able to create new characters....

    9. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      I don't know if I fully fault them either.

      It is... Nintendo basically is an insular company, for instance starfox wouldn't have died as a property if they'd given it to Voltion (the people who made freespace 1 and 2) see below...

      Freespace 2 open (vid)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Starfox Zero WiiU review

      http://www.metacritic.com/game...

      Freespace 2 score metacritic

      https://www.metacritic.com/gam...

      Basically Team voltion/descent has been rotting for 20 years as Miyamoto and company have fucked the pooch on starfox franchise, even though that team is probably the best space combat making game on the planet. Nintendo not having a general understanding of what it means to be a gamer that games on all platforms has passed up opportunity after opportunity to get western devs to make good use of their IP's.

      Nintendo's japanese teams never made a good transition to the HD era, all of there games have suffered quality issues outside of maybe mario and kart and Smash brothers.

      Another big mistake was not getting Team Vigil (of darksiders 1 fame) to do a Zelda game. Even though darksiders 1 is better than all the zelda games Nintendo made outside of maybe latter half of windwaker.

    10. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't you rather play new games instead of warmed over retreads of crap you've already played hundreds of times? All of Nintendo's creativity died in the early 90s.

    11. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Djoulihen · · Score: 1

      I'd even say they welcome new characters with open Arms

    12. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You two dudes, I tip my Cap at thee.

      (Sure, he might be in the Mario universe, but he's still a new character!)

    13. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

      Haha funny. I should have said new "lead characters" that represent new franchises.

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    14. Re:Mario, Zelda, Pokemon? by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Inklings in Splatoon are new lead characters that represent new franchises.

  2. OK by bobstreo · · Score: 0

    I'm two generations behind on Nintendo consoles. I skipped the WIIU and the switch, because I wanted more than the latest Legends of Pokemon games.

    Nintendo should just give up on console hardware, and port to PS and Xbox, and make some nice controllers...

    1. Re:OK by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Indeed, the Sony and Microsoft controllers really suck.

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    2. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good news! There's a lot more games than Legends of Pokemon on the Switch!

    3. Re:OK by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      Not sure if troll or not? Nintendo has basically given up on the home console business. The Switch is a handheld (a market Nintendo has always thrived at) with a dock. They dont have a dedicated home console anymore, they don't need one, they games they want to make work on their handheld which is hugely successful.
      Why should they port games to their competitors? Because you dont like the majority of it's library? Many people disagree with you and are voting with their wallets. Welcome to capitalism!

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    4. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean their underpowered, PLASTIC screen portable that was obsolete before it was released? If consoles are going to survive, then they need to provide value, which means they need to be reasonably capable for a low price. Switch is just getting buried in a sea of superior, entrenched tablets and smartphones which have a much larger library of software and games available for them.

    5. Re: OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you play mario on them, no you cannot. Value != hardware.

    6. Re: OK by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      People have been predicting the death of consoles since the 90s, and the death of handhelds for at least 10 years. Yet the sales numbers and profitability continue to prove these people wrong every time. Look at the PS4. Handhelds is something that Nintendo always nails. Home consoles not so much, the Wii was lightning in a bottle, unless they know they have the next big successful gimmick like the Wii they should stick to handhelds. The Switch is the right strategy they need for now.

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    7. Re:OK by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      So #1, skipping out on the Wii U was a good idea. But it's a mistake to dismiss the Switch out of hand. Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey are both critically acclaimed, and Breath of the Wild in particular either totally re-imagined the series and/or returned it to its NES Legend of Zelda/Link to the Past roots. (As someone who was never to get into any of the earlier 3D Zelda games, including Ocarina of Time, i tend to view it as the later.) And most of the other franchise sequels have been pretty good too. It's also got a lot of other more unusual games (the Mario vs Rabbids tactical strategy game, the sports RPG Golf Story, the retro RPG Octopath Traveler, among others) and quite a number of high quality ports (most recently I'm quite excited about Valkyria Chonicles 4 and Valkyria Chronicles Remastered.)

      Now maybe none of those games appeal to you, but there are a lot of other people that they do appeal to.

      #2, the Switch is selling about as well as the PS4. Which also of course means that like the PS4 it's crushing the XBox.

      So they're managing to produce critically acclaimed sequels, start new potential franchises, attract third parties, and are effectively tied for first in the console race at the current rate of sales. Giving up on console hardware could have been conceivable in the middle of the Wii U doldrums, by why would Nintendo consider that _now_?

      All of this could change of course (sooner or later it always does in this industry, especially for Nintendo.) Maybe sales will slow down and not be revived by the releases of Smash and Pokemon. Maybe third parties will change their minds and stop making/porting games. But right now Nintendo is looking pretty rosy.

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    8. Re: OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure I can. Emulators for many systems, Nintendo's included, exist and run well on Android.

      But then, WHY would I want to play Mario? Mario is passe. I want to play new games that I haven't already seen and played a hundred times before.

    9. Re: OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People have been predicting the death of consoles since the 90s, and the death of handhelds for at least 10 years. Yet the sales numbers and profitability continue to prove these people wrong every time.

      Know why? Because they are reasonably capable for a low price, as stated in the very post you responded to. If you had read with an intent to understand instead of an intent to knee-jerk , you could have spared yourself from saying something so stupid.

      Handhelds is something that Nintendo always nails.

      Know who else has nailed handhelds? Samsung. Apple. Huawei. LG. Motorola. Xioami. The world isn't a static place where everything stands still in order that Nintendo remains king.

      the Wii was lightning in a bottle

      The Wii was a fad and a gimmicky pile of shit. That's why people bought them, played them briefly and then let them collect dust. It was the console equivalent of a fidget spinner.

      The Switch is the right strategy they need for now.

      Yeah, sure. Nintendo is already doing something that they never did before: making games for non-Nintendo systems with their games on Android. They are hedging their bet because they are uncertain of their own future.

      Nintendo would be best off if they went the way of the other obsolete, former console maker and only made games for third party platforms. They sure as shit don't have a clue when it comes to producing their own hardware.

    10. Re: OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *facepalm*

      Of course the hardware dictates value since the product (the console) IS hardware. Better specs at low cost (PlayStation 4) is a better value than poor specs at high cost (Switch).

    11. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you talking about the steaming mounds of shit running Android? Or proper phones and tablets running iOS and costing a lot more than any console?

      iOS may be able to compete in 1-2 areas, but the Android app ecosystem is not even on the radar in terms of quality or profit margin. It's doubtful it even registers in terms of revenue compared to established consoles.

    12. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You let me know when I can play Doom 3, Half-Life 2 or Portal on iOS. Oh, that's right, you can't because iOS devices are pieces of overpriced, obsolete shit. That's why nobody wants them or buys them.

  3. Bowsette Company by Cipheron · · Score: 1

    The internet doesn't want to hear this stuff, Nintendo, when you haven't even commented yet on the great job we did with Bowsette.

    1. Re:Bowsette Company by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      I think Nintendo was like, been there, done that :)

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  4. The beginning of the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Nintendo announcing their future plans to run the company into the ground.

    It's OK though. All good things come to an end, and you really can't keep running the company like it's still the 90s.

    1. Re:The beginning of the end by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      It's OK though. All good things come to an end, and you really can't keep running the company like it's still the 90s.

      The hell you can't.

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    2. Re:The beginning of the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this announcement any of that?

    3. Re:The beginning of the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This twit sounds like the twit that runs Hasbro. Look, Goldner, if you don't want to run a gaming company that makes games, step aside and let somebody who does run the show.

  5. If I were Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If I wanted to transition more to an entertainment company, one of the first things I'd do is start working with Netflix and Amazon to get their streaming apps on the Switch. It's basically a portable tablet that also doubles as a game console. Yes, phones/phablets/tablets, even plenty of TVs, can replicate these features, but none really have the gaming experience like on the Switch, and what does it really hurt Nintendo to have the apps available for the Switch? I might also approach the Kodi devs and work with them to get a port of Kodi to the Switch.

    I would also work with Netflix and Amazon to come up with a few cartoons based on properties like Mario and Zelda, similar to the Transformers and Ninja Turtles cartoons over the years, or Netflix's Stretch Armstrong series. I think there would be quite a lot of interest in a high quality Zelda cartoon. Maybe Metroid as well. They could even revive something like the old Captain N show where they could showcase different games in every episode. Netflix is apparently looking to get into "choose your own adventure" style shows, so you could even make brand new Zelda or Metroid games kind of like the Telltale games.

    Just a few of the things that I would do, if it were my decision.

  6. "intellectual properties". So stealing our money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or can I mirror your "business", and "pay" with my "financial property"?
    You know, just like you want money for giving me a *copy* of the information that resulted from your hard work,
    I want work for giving you a *copy* of the $100 bills that resulted from my hard work.
    No?
    But I worked hard for that money, you thieves!! You pirates!! You criminals!
    Because it's a worthless copy?
    Worthless?? It is financial property! I worked for it, you should be working for it! How dare you!
    You only need to pay 0.0005 cent's worth for for a copy of my $100 anyway! It's not like you have to work for a whole $100!
    But I have an infinite amount of copies, making them worthless, yet I demand 0.0005 cent's worth of work *every* time??
    But that's exactly what you do! So: Is it OK, or is it not OK?
    Because if it's not, then your "intellectual property" crime scheme is just as much not OK!
    And if it is, then here are 120,000 copies of my $100 bill in exchange for a copy of your $60 game data.
    Hint: It's not, and fuck you.

  7. Sony? by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    a Super Mario film produced by Illumination Entertainment (Minions, Despicable Me).

    Why not Sony? Ha!

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  8. time you spend surfing the Web, watching a movie by rjejr · · Score: 2

    Well if that's your concern, simple solution, put a web browser and Netflix and Youtube on Switch, problem solved. You stupid stupid overpaid mouthpiece of a man.

  9. Reggie Fills-Anus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a name like that you know he's going to fuck you!

  10. Nothing new here by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Japanese game companies are always trying to branch out into multi-media. They've always been a little worried folks will give up on games. And games don't have the same allure as working on movies or even TV.

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  11. I compete for time by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    I compete for time

    We all know time is money.

  12. Re:Slashdot's future: ADULT ENTERTAINMENT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's about Mario, Zelda, Pokemon -- all these wonderful intellectual properties. How we leverage these across a variety of entertainment platforms is how we're looking to grow the company.

    In other words:

    Our hardware is generations out of date, our continuously rehashed games are tired, we've run out of gimmicks and we still treat everyone, developers and users alike, like shit.

    "The people kicking our asses aren't our competitors! And I'm not just saying that because they are kicking our asses."

  13. By Neruos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is my,

    Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Castlevaina, Megaman, live action, really invested films?
    The NCU?

    1. Re:By Neruos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Castlevania is owned by Konami and Mega Man is owned by Capcom, so Nintendo would have very little say there.

    2. Re:By Neruos by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Where is my,

      Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Castlevaina, Megaman, live action, really invested films? The NCU?

      Funny you should ask.

    3. Re:By Neruos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mega Man, not Megaman.

  14. Welcome to the gutter Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather pay for gaming related servicesservices, not random business ventures.

  15. Re:"intellectual properties". So stealing our mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, teachers and information as a whole, is worthless

  16. Wii as a multimedia platform by buzz_mccool · · Score: 1

    I always thought Nintendo EOLed the Wii and the Wii network services way too quickly. What would it have cost to keep Wii News, Wii Weather, along with the multi-player gaming, web browsing, movies etc. going on all those platforms? They were in so many households. A backward compatible Wii+ with just an HDMI port and a speed bump would have sold better than the Wii U (and even have sold fine as a complementary product along side the Wii U).

    1. Re:Wii as a multimedia platform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Wii U is a backwards compatible Wii with a speed bump with a (not an) HDMI port.

    2. Re:Wii as a multimedia platform by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      What would it have cost to keep Wii News, Wii Weather, along with the multi-player gaming, web browsing, movies etc. going on all those platforms?

      Sales. It would have cost them sales of new consoles. If they don't bring out a new console, they can't sell it to you. Unlike the competition, Nintendo makes a profit on every new console sold. They need to sell you new consoles in order to make money. The competition doesn't, or at least not as soon, because they make their money on games licensing, because they have ever so much more volume than Nintendo. They can afford to wait until the sale of the games tapers off to release their new system.

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  17. /sarcasm How's the movies biz doing Nintendo? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > a Super Mario film produced by Illumination Entertainment

    /sarcasm Because the last Super Mario Bros movie was such a masterpiece. Oh wait, it was a piece of shit. But THIS new movie based on a game will be different, right? Hello Nintendo, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you ...

    Instead, how about you STOP with the fucking retarded copyright claims against "Let's Play" (YouTube) videos who are providing FREE ADVERTISING for your IP.

  18. Fun in playing by DrYak · · Score: 1

    You mean their underpowered, PLASTIC screen portable that was obsolete before it was released?

    You know most people play game for the fun those procure, not for number of MHz that a peculiar CPU in the device has.

    Since somewhere in the 90s when technical limitation stopped being to extreme for 2D and somewhere since the 00s when 3D quality was enough to not limit expression, the raw perf of hardware don't matter that much.

    What matter is the quality of the games.

    And Nintendo is a big enough brand to manage to attract a good number of developers. Thus ensuring to have a decent ecosystem of quality games that most people will want to play.

    No matter what the specs of the actual hardware are.

    There might be better tablet with more powerful hardware, but these might not have the games people want to play.

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    1. Re:Fun in playing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget your screen protector for that "quality" piece of Nintendo kit. You wouldn't want to get it scratched up just by placing it into the dock it was designed for.

      In addition, Nintendo games suck. Mario, Zelda and Metroid were cool in their times, but that was the 1980s. We've moved on.

    2. Re: Fun in playing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kill yourself troll

    3. Re: Fun in playing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kill yourself troll

      ^Typical Nintendo fanboi response.

  19. Gosh, So Deep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo is an "entertainment" company? That's certainly a radical departure for them, I'll bet their President gets an enormous bonus this year!

    Such vision. Much courage. Deep thinking!

    Must have taken multiple executive retreats to exclusive spa resorts to think that one up!

  20. Re:Slashdot's future: ADULT ENTERTAINMENT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The people kicking our asses

    Yet it's funny how Nintendo consistently outperform the people kicking their arses, almost like their arses aren't being kicked.

  21. Re:Slashdot's future: ADULT ENTERTAINMENT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do? When? I think you imagined this in a crack dream.