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Australia Set To 'Eliminate' Cervical Cancer By 2028 (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: Australia is set to be the first country to eliminate cervical cancer, aided by its national vaccination and screening programs, says a new study. The country is on track to meet the threshold of four or less new cases per 100,000 women each year, effectively eliminating the cancer by 2028, finds the new study published Wednesday. The cancer could be classified as "rare" as early as 2022, meeting a threshold of six new cases per 100,000 and deaths due to the diseases are expected to decline to one new case per 100,000 women by 2034. But this is all contingent on Australia's high vaccination coverage and screening being maintained, write the study authors.

An estimated 99.7% of cervical cancer cases are caused by infection with Human Papillomavirus (HPV), a group of viruses that spread though sexual intercourse and skin-to-skin contact around the genitals. In their new study, the researchers at Cancer Council NSW modeled data on HPV vaccination, natural history of the disease, and cervical screening to estimate the age-incidence of cervical cancer in Australia from 2015 to 2100. Currently, Australia reports seven cases of cervical cancer per 100,000 women, according to the study. As well as eliminating the disease within 20 years, the data showed that the annual incidence of cervical cancer will decrease and remain at fewer than one case per 100,000 women if screening for HPV every five years continues and as long as people have been offered the vaccine.

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  1. There's not a lot of those by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    but there are a ton of folks who can't afford the vaccine. We don't have single payer so we've got millions without healthcare. The numbers are higher than that stats since we define healthcare access as "having insurance" but lots can't afford to use the insurance they have.

    But, hey, who's gonna pay for it, amiright?

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    1. Re:There's not a lot of those by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

      australia has an system that covers all.

    2. Re:There's not a lot of those by Lothsahn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As an evangelical God worshipper, I fully support the HPV vaccine (and my children have been vaccinated for HPV and all other diseases as per the recommended schedule) and I don't support a lot of what Trump has done, nor did I vote for him.

      I know, sample size of one and all, but we're not all anti-science.

      You are also welcome on my lawn. Sorry some of my fellow Christians have behaved so poorly.

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    3. Re:There's not a lot of those by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You are also welcome on my lawn. Sorry some of my fellow Christians have behaved so poorly.

      Brother, you come to my house any time. I can't imagine what it's like to be a devout believe in a faith that is being so badly misused by horrible people.

      Here is a famous photo of Donald Trump being "anointed" by a group of evangelical "leaders". There's a similar photo, taken right after inauguration, with Trump attorney Michael Cohen standing behind him. Cohen is the one who Trump had pay off the porn star and the playboy model.

      https://goo.gl/images/ux8VE9

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    4. Re:There's not a lot of those by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The vaccine costs perhaps 5 cents ...
      It is your fucked up country that prevents people from getting healthcare.

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    5. Re:There's not a lot of those by xpiotr · · Score: 2

      Trump attorney Michael Cohen standing behind him. Cohen is the one who Trump had pay off the porn star and the playboy model.

      Is your problem with her profession, or the fact that he paid her off?
      I for one, as a christian, have no problem with her profession(s).

    6. Re:There's not a lot of those by mhotchin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think the parent was trying to say anything about the profession - it's the *evangelicals* who have the problem, but gave 45 a pass. I believe he is commenting on the hypocrisy.

    7. Re:There's not a lot of those by martinX · · Score: 2

      $130 per dose in the US (in 2013) according to Wikipedia.

      The article further states, "In the United States, the cost per quality-adjusted life year is greater than US$100,000 for vaccinating the male population, compared to the less than US$50,000 for vaccinating the female population. This assumes a 75% vaccination rate."

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    8. Re:There's not a lot of those by dfghjk · · Score: 2

      Also, the fact that not all Christians are a problem does not mean that Christians aren't a problem. There are good and bad people, the religious are no different but they use special entitlement to impose their awfulness on others. That entitlement needs to go.

      It's also not just Christians either, it's all religion. The failure of US politics is not recognizing that freedom of religion also requires freedom from religion. Separation of church and state must go both ways, religion must not grant immunity from compliance with rules that benefit society. Any reasoning that starts with "my faith" must be rejected with prejudice.

    9. Re:There's not a lot of those by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      That is not the cost, that is the price you pay.

      Again: production cost of such a shot is most certainly a very low cent amount.

      It is completely ridiculous that you allow a company to charge so much for a vaccine!

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    10. Re:There's not a lot of those by Lothsahn · · Score: 2

      Brother, you come to my house any time. I can't imagine what it's like to be a devout believe in a faith that is being so badly misused by horrible people.

      It's not easy, but I've got it easy compared to some of my liberal Muslim co-workers.

      The reality is that it's hard to balance loving others, but reject behavior. Yeshua (Jesus) showed us how to do this in John 8:1-11, but it's not natural. Humans are fundamentally tribal in nature (the recent political situation in the US exemplifies this perfectly). Humans want to categorize people into Good & Evil, Friend and Foe. But then God comes along and says: I want you to behave in this different way. I want you to simultaneously say "I don't condemn you" AND "change your ways--go and sin no more." So it's hard to simultaneously love and accept someone while rejecting their actions--because they're both Friend and Foe simultaneously. I think this is where people so often fail because it's a VERY difficult balance to maintain. Some give up and classify everyone as Friend (Unitarian Universalists). Others go the other way and classify everyone as Foe (Westboro Baptists).

      A good example to Friend/Foe is what you linked above. If I were an evangelical leader, I would absolutely pray for and with Donald Trump during his inauguration. But I would do exactly the same for Obama or Clinton as well. One would argue that I should be MORE willing to pray over and with my foes, because they need the most help (Matthew 5:43-47).

      But the real key to Christianity is judgement is reserved for the Lord. I'm not allowed to judge others, I'm only allowed to witness and tell the truth as I see it. If I find myself judging others, I'm doing it wrong (Matthew 7:1-5).

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  2. Re:It's not hard by ChromeAeonuim · · Score: 4, Informative

    You've got to be one stone cold prick to think that cancer is an appropriate punishment for having pre-marital sex. How can you be such a horrible person as to say 'Well honey, you made Jesus sad, so now you have to die miserably.' They're literally using disease as a cudgel to help enforce their views on sexuality. Congratulations, you've literally partnered with cancer, way to demonstrate your moral superiority.

    Of all the evidence that the religious right is full of shit, this sure is some of it.

  3. Does PENIS CANCER get your attention? by surfcow · · Score: 2

    HPV is a virus - that causes cancer.
    A cancer virus.

    Yes, HPV causes cancer of the cervix, vulva, and vagina.
    But also cancers of the penis, throat, mouth, anus, prostate.
    Men get HPV cancers too.
    Penetrative sex is not required.

    So HPV is a virus - that causes cancer - of the sex organs.

    I wish they called it "Sex organ cancer virus."

    Unlike ALL the other cancers, these cancers can be prevented with a single vaccine.

    A cancer vaccine.

    We are sexually active, and we both received the Gardasil-9 series.
    Our insurance (KP) would NOT cover it. Said we were too old.
    We went to Costco and paid out of pocket
    3 shots in the series, about $220 each.

    I hear cancer is expensive too.

    1. Re:Does PENIS CANCER get your attention? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Agreed, you would be silly.

      Australia vaccinates boys and girls:
      The vaccine is provided free of charge for: 12- and 13-year-old males and females through schools on an ongoing basis
      [http://www.hpvregister.org.au/health-professionals]

    2. Re:Does PENIS CANCER get your attention? by martinX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Initially it was given to only girls for free because of a bit of cost/benefit analysis. Following exposure, HPV causes cervical cancer at a higher rate than it causes penile cancer. Other cancers caused by HPV are even lower down on the list. The assumption was if you can knock it out in females then that will have a largely dampening effect on the already very small numbers of male cancers. The ideal was always known to be vaccinating boys, but someone has to pay for this.

      Anyway, the argument is now moot here, since - as others have pointed out - it is freely available to boys now, too.

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  4. Re:Vaccine for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It cost me $300. Why should I pay that, when the vaccine is of zero benefit to him because he has no cervix? I paid for it, because I can afford it, and it is the right thing to do, but many people can not afford it.

    Since it is not to his personal benefit, but for the benefit of society at large perhaps it should be publicly funded? You know ... the way it is in Australia? Or would that be socialism?

  5. Re:It's not hard by labnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I belong to a Christian community and am from Australia where the vaccine was invented and there is ZERO objection to it here.
    The real problem is your screwed up healthcare system that throws poor people on the scrapheap of humanity.
    Our vaccination rates are high, simply because it is given free of charge to all school girls during school hours. No need to drag your bigotry into the discussion.

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  6. Re:Vaccine for everyone by suutar · · Score: 2

    not quite zero. Males can have issues caused by HPV as well.

  7. Re:It's not hard by Lothsahn · · Score: 2

    As a Christian, I'd love to dispute your argument, but honestly, I agree with it. I think a lot of people have acted that way, consciously or otherwise. A lot of people have definitely gotten off the track and aren't reflecting Jesus at all. John 13:35, Matthew 7:1, etc.

    Sorry for the pain they've caused you and others. The only thing I can say is the Jesus I know doesn't act like that, and there are many good Christians who actually reflect love, tolerance, and kindness--not judgement.

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  8. Re:It's not hard by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I belong to a Christian community and am from Australia where the vaccine was invented and there is ZERO objection to it here.

    The kind of evangelicalism I'm talking about is unique to the United States.

    Our vaccination rates are high, simply because it is given free of charge to all school girls during school hours. No need to drag your bigotry into the discussion.

    We've tried to have the HPV given to school children, but the evangelicals have blocked every single effort. We even had such a program going in Texas, if you can believe it, but the governor and lieutenant governor, one of whom used to be a radio host on an evangelical-owned network, made it their personal mission to stop the program.

    Christians are fine people. But American evangelicals have nothing to do with christianity, I'm afraid.

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  9. Re:It's not hard by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thats the thing though. These people are all about punishing women.

    Think about all the arguments used for abortion. If someones not prepared to send a woman to death row for an abortion, one must conclude they don't *really* think its murder. And its not about health. And since the same people that want to ban abortion start hollering about communism when its suggested they might pay a little bit more tax to ensure a single mother has food to feed her child, its pretty clear they don't give a fuck about what to do with the child they forced on the woman.

    Which really only leaves punishment. Banning abortion is to punish women for sex.

    And so is opposing the HPV vaccine. And in this case, the stakes are even higher. Have sex, get cancer, that'll learn you for disobeying sky jesus.

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  10. Re:Vaccine for everyone by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    Because you prevent him infecting his next GF or wife.

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  11. Re:It's not hard by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These people are all about punishing women. Think about all the arguments used for abortion.

    People who want fathers (or even alleged fathers) to pay child support for children they didn't ask for, for 225+ months, use the exact same arguments and reasoning as those who want to force women to carry parental responsibilities they didn't want for 9 months.

  12. Re:Vaccine for everyone by Capsaicin · · Score: 3, Informative

    [T]he vaccine is of zero benefit to him because he has no cervix

    Well ... perhaps not zero benefit. He does have a throat I take it.

    Which is in no way to disagree with your actual point, that this, and imo many other vaccines, ought to be freely available, where your argument should be irresistible.

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  13. Re: It's not hard by jd · · Score: 3

    We might disagree on theology, but I respect your philosophy and your right to believe. I wish more were as tolerant as you.

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  14. Re: So is this the current scientific stance on HP by jd · · Score: 2

    There's no evidence of dire side effects from vaccines, hyperactive immune systems can cause problems

    HPV does cause cancer, that's the latest from science.

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  15. Anti-socialist troll by DrYak · · Score: 2

    But, hey, who's gonna pay for it, amiright?

    Indeed, you're right this mentality is problematic.
    Cue in tons of citations from Margarett Tatcher about "running out of somebody's else monney".
    Despite the fact that :
      - there are several European countries here around which managed to have successful public healthcare, without being an enconomic shit-hole.
      - the health domain is typically the situation where it will end up costing tons of money to these "somebody else"s in the long term if you don't spend a bit now in advance. (usually, prevention costs a lot less to the society than the actual handling of a disease. And that's at the society level. At the personal level it's even worse).

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  16. Re:Vaccine for everyone by dfghjk · · Score: 2

    HPV also causes cancers in men including, potentially, your son. One can argue that vaccinating boys is even more important than girls since a penis plays a greater role in the spread of HPV than a cervix/vagina. Men absolutely benefit from the vaccine so you can take comfort in knowing that you only did what's really important---serve your own interests.

    Perhaps you should not only pay for your son's but for those who "can not" afford it as well. You are not only ignorant but selfish as well.

  17. Re:Vaccine for everyone by dfghjk · · Score: 2

    "not quite"? Men get cancers from HPV as well. Men also suffer when family members get cancer. The OP is a fool.

  18. Re:Vaccine for everyone by dfghjk · · Score: 2

    ...or BF or husband. Or preventing him from getting cancer from HPV given to him from his GF or wife...or BF or husband.

    It should be obvious by now that this whole topic is rooted in sexism. The arguments for vaccinating boys are at least as strong as for girls.

  19. HPV is not the only cause of cervical cancer by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Literally, topic. You cannot eliminate certain type of cancer by eliminating one of the risk factors. The claim is patently absurd.

    1. Re:HPV is not the only cause of cervical cancer by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to Wikipeida around 85% of cervical cancer has this cause. Of course that's globally, in Australia it will be different due to different lifestyles. Other risk factors include smoking and multiple pregnancies, both declining in Aus. So their claim that at some point cervical cancer will be effectively eliminated (instances below some very low threshold) is credible.

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    2. Re:HPV is not the only cause of cervical cancer by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      Many viruses break the cell's replication controls so they can produce more virus. This turns the cells into "almost cancer". Then you're a hop skip and a jump from real cancer, should any of the remaining mechanisms break in the cell. Of course, any tissue can become cancerous via random mutation, but the viruses definitely get the ball rolling when they smash the regulatory pathways. Different viruses mutate at different rates, and different families are built very differently. Go look up the size difference between smallpox and flu (physical and genome) and see if you can figure out why vaccinating against the former is easier.

  20. Rationality about science by sjbe · · Score: 2

    As an evangelical God worshipper, I fully support the HPV vaccine (and my children have been vaccinated for HPV and all other diseases as per the recommended schedule) and I don't support a lot of what Trump has done, nor did I vote for him.

    As an atheist it's nice to see a religious person being rational about science.

    I know, sample size of one and all, but we're not all anti-science.

    We know that. It frustrates and confuses me why folks like yourself aren't as a group shouting down the crazy ones among you because I know you aren't alone. I genuinely don't care if an adult wants to worship privately and I'm fine with people having views that differ from my own. But when they start pretending that their fictional holy book should supersede empirical evidence or that their mythology has a place in the science classroom or in public health policy then we have a fight. I don't care what the bible says - it's not a basis for any rational discussion much less public policy about science.

    You are also welcome on my lawn. Sorry some of my fellow Christians have behaved so poorly.

    Likewise. What I'm puzzled by is how many self proclaimed "values voters" among the religious right shamelessly dumped any pretense at morality by voting for Trump. Trump is a guy who is a near embodiment of many of the sorts of values they claim to hate (lying, philandering, etc) and yet a shocking number of them are among his most enthusiastic supporters. I get that they didn't like Clinton but how Trump ever won the republican party nomination with the support of so many of these hypocrites will probably forever elude me.

  21. Adoption by sjbe · · Score: 2

    And there are a multitude of folks who would want to adopt those "unwanted children". So abortion also affects a people.

    Several problems with that argument.
    1) The people who allegedly might adopt those children don't have to endure the pregnancy and risks that come with it
    2) Very few people who are supposedly against abortion are actually willing to adopt a child to save it from an abortion
    3) There are already no lack of children in need of adoption so it's hard to argue we should be making more children
    4) A woman should have the right to control her reproductive systems just like any other part of her body at all times. Another person's desire to raise a child should not change that fact.

  22. Re:It's not hard by careysub · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thats the thing though. These people are all about punishing women.

    Think about all the arguments used for abortion.

    You left out the most telling point. The people who are wish to ban abortion in all cases, are also overwhelmingly opposed to the availability of other forms of birth control, which if used - shall we say "religiously"? - would prevent said abortions from even being an issue. They are even opposed to accurate education about sex.

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