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Vice President Mike Pence Says Google Should Halt Dragonfly App Development (reuters.com)
On Thursday, the U.S. Vice President Mike Pence weighed in on Dragonfly, a project run by Google to build a censored search engine app for China. He said Dragonfly app would make it easier to track someone's internet searches. From a report: Pence said in a speech that business leaders are now thinking twice before entering the Chinese market "if it means turning over their intellectual property or abetting Beijing's oppression." He added, "More must follow suit. For example, Google should immediately end development of the 'Dragonfly' app that will strengthen Communist Party censorship and compromise the privacy of Chinese customers."
As long as that involves a direct order banning illegal bulk collection of data and weakening of any encryption.
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Uh huh, sure ... all while being required to help with US domestic spying.
This isn't a stand of principle, this is saying it's OK to be evil for us, but not for someone else.
Come on, let's get serious.
The USA has some problems, sure, as do every country. But China is its own level of insane. Censoring half the Web, locking away anyone who believe anything beside communist propaganda, no access to foreign media, blocking vpn websites, torturing falun gong and other religious group, it's absolute bullshit. Also messing with the stability of the region with the south China Sea claims and fucking up Hong Kong and Taiwan to try and turn them into commie States. And that's not even Co sideline the trade war and the new Chinese spy chips discovered in foreign servers.
Fuck China. I love Chinese culture but there is no culture left in China, now only brainwashing and lies.
Seriously, they just don't.
They'll happily fork all their email over to Google, let Facebook mine the everloving shit out of their lives, run everybody's tracking scripts all around the web, put an Amazon Alexa in their bedroom, and install spyware on their phones in exchange for a $0.50 discount on coffee.
Snowden came along and showed them how much was being collected of their communications, but what did they do? They went right along supporting the companies cooperating with the NSA. They went right along putting Facebook on their phones. They went right along sending unencrypted email.
And you expect them to care about Google collecting personal data about people in China's searches? They don't even care about Google strip-mining THEIR OWN searches.
Look I hate it but this horse left the barn a long time ago. People don't give a shit about privacy. Not theirs, and not some poor guy's in China.
Ignoring the politics, do you approve of google working on dragonfly?
Saudi Arabia scores considerably lower when it comes to freedom than China (by aggregate score):
https://freedomhouse.org/repor...
I mean, women were just allowed to drive in 2018:
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/24...
But they are a favored trade partner focusing on two way oil for weapons deals.
So we arm nations that oppress their citizens more than China. In 2017, Trump signed a $110 billion military sale agreement with Saudi Arabia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
What's this about internet censorship? Oh, Saudi Arabia used Secure Computing, a US corporation, to manage country wide internet monitoring and filtering, not just search.
But oil (and our incessant fear of Iran)...
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... and compromise the privacy of Chinese customers."
WHAT ABOUT AMERICA FIRST?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
they still have Most Favored Nation Status from the US...
I don't think it's that the US is any better than China, it's just that we're wealthier and so our ruling class doesn't have to bother with that sort of thing to keep the working class in line. Go back 50 years and read up on what we did to Unions though. It's the same stuff China's doing. We didn't stop doing that stuff because we became better people, we shipped the factories where that stuff happens overseas.... That didn't really solve the problem of oppression, it just moved it out of sight, out of mind.
At the end of the day we're all just people, and we're all a week's worth of food away from savagery. The best solution is always to make it so that nobody's getting to that point.
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You're going to a lot of effort to avoid admitting pence did a good thing.
It's okay. You can say it.
The world won't end.
You forgot Tibet, and the ongoing destruction of Tibetan Buddhism.
Fuck China. I love Chinese culture but there is no culture left in China, now only brainwashing and lies.
That was Mao's direct intention: destroy all traditional Chinese culture, along with the traditions. Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. He created China's "Lost Generation", by encouraging students to kill all their teachers, then shipping all the educated youth off to farms, breaking all methods by which culture is transmitted across civilizations.
Turns out "no culture" is a bad thing, as anything beyond sociopathy must be learned, and China got a generation of short-sighted greed, pettiness, and poor impulse control (the Baby Boomers have nothing on those guys). Pretty much the opposite of how communes are supposed to work, ironically enough.
Meanwhile, all over the Chinese countryside you'll find crumbling buildings that were once wonderful temples and the like, but no one cares to maintain since Mao (or at least no one with the resources).
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.