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Salmon Farmers Are Scanning Fish Faces To Fight Killer Lice (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: Millions of Atlantic salmon could have their faces stored in digital databases to track their health and single out those posing threats to their marine surroundings. And before you ask if fish have faces, they do: A company in Norway has developed a 3D scanner that can tell salmon apart based on the distinct pattern of spots around their eyes, mouth and gills. Fish-farming giant Cermaq Group AS wants to roll out the technology at salmon pens along Norway's fjord-etched coastline, betting it can prevent the spread of epidemics like sea lice that infect hundreds of millions of farmed fish and cost the global industry upwards of $1 billion each year.

Cargill wants to apply facial recognition to aqua farms, and Cermaq, operator of over 200 salmon and trout farms in Norway, Canada and Chile, is already doing tests on the iFarm design with its Norwegian technology partner BioSort AS. It'll look a lot like existing fish farms, with networks of 160-meter (525-foot) circular nets that are typically 35 meters deep and home to up to 200,000 salmon. The difference is that iFarms would be equipped with camera scanners at the water surface. On any given day, about 40,000 salmon in each pen will rise to above water for a gulp of air, something their bladders need to regulate buoyancy. Each time a salmon does this, typically every four days, it would go through a funnel fitted with sensors that would screen its face and body so records can be kept on each fish. If the machines pick up on abnormalities like lice or skin ulcers, the infected fish can be quarantined for medical treatment.

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  1. item to add by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    Ah, an item to add to the list of things that I'd just as soon not know existed ... "sea lice". (shudder)

    1. Re:item to add by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      We have them around here. Really they are just jellyfish larvae.

    2. Re:item to add by forkfail · · Score: 1

      So, I supposes you probably don't want to know about Tidal Ticks, Blue Water Bed Bugs, or Saltwater Roaches?

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    3. Re:item to add by pjt33 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The salmon louse is a crustacean, a member of the phylum Arthropoda. Jellyfish are members of the phylum Cnidaria.

    4. Re:item to add by gnick · · Score: 2

      You took him to school. No, that's a terrible pun, I cod do better. Gimme a minute to mullet over.

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    5. Re:item to add by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      How about the human eyelash louse? Around 30% of the people you know are infested. So are around 30% of the people you don't know.

      I don't know if they're contagious. I guess they are, to an extent.

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    6. Re: item to add by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      You're right ; sorry. The rest of my point stands though.

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  2. Yeah right by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Troll

    Millions of Atlantic salmon could have their faces stored in digital databases to track their health and single out those posing threats to their marine surroundings.

    That's what they say but this is obviously an anti-muslim fish ban. Or even worse some kind of fish-racism to keep the fish-line "pure". Where have I heard that before... snort.

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    1. Re:Yeah right by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      Be careful or the fish-supremacists will be out in force spamming the comments here.

    2. Re:Yeah right by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Get your jellied kidney and pork bellies out of my fish farm, you're worse than sea lice!

  3. here fishy fishy fishy by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish.

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    1. Re:here fishy fishy fishy by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It would seem to be true with all those salmon in the way, but if you don't catch anything, aren't you still fishing?

  4. A win for sustainability by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    Fish farming is not only more sustainable than hunting at sea, but in the long run tech like this makes farmed fish safer fish.

    1. Re:A win for sustainability by PPH · · Score: 2

      When these 'farms' accidentally release stock into the surrounding waters, it's a catastrophe for the native ecosystem

      We'll see. This very thing happened recently in the Puget Sound.

      Some claim that the non-native Atlantic salmon will just die off, as they have no home spawning ground to return to. On the other hand, they might just return to any old convenient river to spawn, competing with the native species and also laying waste to environmentalists claims that all salmon habitat is precious and must be protected. The experiment is underway and time will tell.

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    2. Re:A win for sustainability by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      The farmed Atlantic salmon are selectively bred to grow fast. They do this by focusing on eating, and ignoring predators, which are absent in their pens.

      There have been many accidental releases of farmed Atlantic salmon in the Pacific Ocean, and there is no evidence that any of them survived for long.

      Atlantic and Pacific salmon do not interbreed. They are more distantly related than their phenotype suggests. They don't even have the same number of chromosomes.

    3. Re:A win for sustainability by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Happened many times by now. No worries, they'll die out.

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    4. Re:A win for sustainability by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      There are basically 3 wild atlantic salmon left.

      It's not that bad, but it's pretty much gone.

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    5. Re:A win for sustainability by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Shhh, don't tell Scotland.

      Here is a page with a map of current distribution of wild Atlantic Salmon.

      https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov...

      In the US they've been reduced to eight rivers in Maine, but the situation is different in many places.

    6. Re:A win for sustainability by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      When these 'farms' accidentally release stock into the surrounding waters, it's a catastrophe for the native ecosystem. We should only allow fish farming inland in manmade water bodies.

      So says the alarmism lobby, in their standard response to any sort of engineering solution to an environmental problem. We're getting tired of this crap, and it's time to just ignore them so we can go on with life.

      Sainted ultra-green countries like Norway and New Zealand are now in fish farming in a major way. They don't appear to share your panic.

    7. Re:A win for sustainability by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      How much does wild atlantic salmon cost? They're effectively gone.

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    8. Re:A win for sustainability by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You still seem to think that food comes from the store.

      You also seem to think that fish exist only to feed you.

      Don't stop eating earthworms, or they'll all "effectively" be gone.

      What would happen if people stopped eating "short pig?" Would the species be "effectively gone?"

      Your understanding of zoology seems to be limited to, "I can haz cheeseburger?"

    9. Re:A win for sustainability by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I mean "long pig," but I guess it still works with what I wrote.

  5. I don't see it by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Face recognition?

    They check for lice and if yes, they retrieve the fish.

    But knowing it was Fishy McFishface27623 who had lice isn't useful as far as I can see from the article.

    1. Re:I don't see it by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      My guess is then they can tell later on if Fishy McFishface27623 was able to be cured of the lice after treatment. Or maybe they use it for identity theft and open up credit cards.

  6. "Quarantined for medical treatement" by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Sounds so nice and friendly and helpful! What utter liar wrote this? Of course, a salmon will just be killed if sick and disposed off.

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    1. Re:"Quarantined for medical treatement" by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      That isn't true. Half of salmon farms have this infestation. They aren't going to throw away their stock. That would be financial disaster. They use chemicals to treat the salmon and sequester them.

    2. Re:"Quarantined for medical treatement" by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      That is very debatable. Not the infestation rates - that's about right. But the use of chemicals to treat the infected fish.

      The problem is that the tanks are open to seawater. They kind-of have to be - to make use of the oxygenation and waste consumption services of large areas of ocean surface and seabed without paying for those services. That's the entire economic basis of fish farming, after all. So, if they treat the fish in the main tank (see footnote), then inevitably some of the treating chemical will escape the tank and go into the wider environment. At a less-than optimal concentration for treatment. When the lice came, as likely as not from that very same environment.

      That sounds to me like a recipe for breeding a resistant strain of sea louse. It also sounds like that to farmers in the same area who use different strains of salmon, or who try to farm different species and who are concerned that a resistant strain could infect their breeding stocks and destroy their businesses. Whoops, time to call in the landsharks! And they're in the game already!

      So, to date the SOP for dealing with an infected fish is to kill it, and then throw it in the "biohazard" waste bin and pay for it's disposal at landfill or incineration. (footnote) Multiple handling of the fish ("sequestering") involves too many man-hours, again destroying the economic basis of the business. Remember - the whole point of this business is to produce greater tonnages of fish more cheaply than finding it on the open sea. So they've got to keep costs down. (Which is also part of the reason for the fear of a more-resistant sea-louse strain.)

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  7. Sigh, Americans.... by magarity · · Score: 1

    And before you ask if fish have faces, they do:

    If you've ever been to an authentic Chinese restaurant you'd already know this. Of course, most Americans think fish are only fillets or breaded sticks.

    1. Re:Sigh, Americans.... by locopuyo · · Score: 1

      I know because I've seen Finding Nemo.

  8. Re:Actually, it's even worse: by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    hah, modded troll when serious scientists believe it. truth hurts

  9. Re:Actually, it's even worse: by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    looks like you don't understand the minimum level of prions required for infection

  10. Have you been watching the price of salmon? by Solandri · · Score: 2

    A few years ago, farmed salmon was about $5/lb, while wild-caught salmon was around $10/lb. Last year, the price of farmed salmon started rising precipitously. By the end of the year it was all the way up to $9/lb. I did a little research into why, and it's because of disease and parasite problems they're having in salmon farms killing off a lot of their fish.

    The difference is a catfish or trout farm is entirely landlocked. They dig a bunch of trenches on land, fill them with water, and raise the fish in there. The waste products and any disease or parasitical infections are contained within the singular trench.

    Salmon farms OTOH are mostly just nets in open water, typically at the mouths of fjords and rivers. The waste products (which include antibiotics) and any disease or parasitical infections are free to spread into the water and to other fish, including wild salmon going down the river to reach the ocean. Basically, salmon farms have externalized some of the clean-up costs associated with landlocked fish farming, by having their farms open to the water to wash the waste products out to sea. To the detriment of wild fish which happen to pass nearby.

    Salmon is a fish I definitely recommend you buy wild-caught (preferably hook-and-line) rather than farmed. Especially now that the price of wild-caught is just a little bit more than farmed. Most wild salmon come from Alaska or the Pacific Northwest, which are both extremely well regulated. Or buy farmed rainbow trout/steelhead instead. It's the same thing. Rainbow trout were originally classified as trout based on geography. But in the 1980s DNA tests showed they were more closely related to the Pacific salmons. They were subsequently moved from the genus Salmo (which includes trout and Atlantic Salmon) to Oncorhynchus (the Pacific Salmons). So for North Americans, rainbow trout (a steelhead is an ocean-going rainbow trout) is more of a salmon than farmed Atlantic salmon, they just retain the trout name for historical reasons. And the orange/pink color of farmed salmon is artificial anyway. Wild salmon get the orange/pink color from the shrimp they eat, same as flamingos. Farmed salmon have the chemical added to their feed. It doesn't affect the flavor, so grey farmed trout is the same thing.

    1. Re:Have you been watching the price of salmon? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Wild-caught trout in cold mountain rivers often have pink flesh though. It seems to be the natural color of the meat when the fish get a high quality varied diet, and the grey color is only from commercially farmed fish. "For whatever reason."

  11. Re:The Elephant in the Room by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Global warming is just a red herring ...

    I see what you did there.

    Just make fewer babies.

    Meh. I'd rather eat tofu.

  12. hmmm, is ths fish face healthy or not? by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1
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  13. Re:Actually, it's even worse: by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    and quoting "indian experts", you're really funny. the land of the diploma mill produces white paper spewing ignoramuses

  14. Re:Fish Finder by slacktide · · Score: 1

    FYI, having caught many hundreds of salmon... They are butthole lice, not face lice.

  15. Lice laser death ray. by godel_56 · · Score: 1

    Never mind scanning the fishes' faces, just burn the parasites off with a laser, as shown below.

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/licehunting-underwater-drone-protects-salmon-with-lasers

  16. Density by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    A cylinder with a diameter of 160m and 35m depth for 200k salmon? If I could correctly, that leaves 80 liters of water per fish, and those are big fishes. It sounds insane.

  17. No privacy for the fishes too! by antdude · · Score: 1

    Poor fishes. :(

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