Apple Releases iOS 12.0.1 With Fixes For Wi-Fi 2.4GHz Bug, Lightning Charging Issue (macrumors.com)

Apple has released iOS 12.0.1, the first official update to the iOS 12 OS that brings a number of fixes, including a fix to the charging issue that was affecting some iPhone XS owners. Mac Rumors reports: Today's update fixes several high profile bugs that have been plaguing iOS 12 users. It resolves an issue that could cause some iPhone XS devices not to charge when connected to a Lightning cable, an issue that was discovered shortly after iOS 12 was released. Reports suggested multiple iOS 12 devices were affected rather than just the iPhone XS, and it's likely that if other devices are impacted, the new update solves the problem.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/08/apple-releases-ios-12-0-1-update/ iOS 12.0.1 also fixes a major Wi-Fi bug that could cause some iPhone XS devices to prefer to join a 2.4GHz Wi-Fi network rather than a 5GHz Wi-Fi network, resulting in perceived slower Wi-Fi connection speeds. After this update, many users who were stuck with their phones connecting to a 2.4GHz network should see much faster Wi-Fi connection speeds as the devices once again prefer a 5GHz network. Other bug fixes in this update include a reorientation of the "123" number key on the iPad, which was moved in the iOS 12 update and swapped with the emoji/language key, a fix for a problem that could cause subtitles not to appear in some video apps, and an issue where Bluetooth could become unavailable.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I fart lightning. And not from my cable.

At last

[hcs_$reboot]

Now it's time to upgrade from 11 to 12

Re:At last

[jittles]

Now it's time to upgrade from 11 to 12

I might hold off on that if I were you. I am having serious radio issues with iOS 12 and I don't know that they are fixed in 12.0.1. I have a 7 and the radios will not let me do anything unless I have at least 3 bars. Also sometimes they just stop working until I restart the device. WiFi has been flaky as well. I was in the mountains this weekend and I basically had to restart my phone every time I wanted to use it. It seems the current radio firmware does not like when you have low reception.

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

I would say that's just the first cycle of the public beta. Let the public test it more.

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

Better than what happened to my device, updated to 12.0, battery drained to zero, and it won't charge from anything. Apple says it's dead.

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

A shortage of cell towers in the mountains? Imagine that.

Re:At last

[wwphx]

I wish I hadn't. 12 also breaks progress syncing in iBooks with previous iOS versions, it took me a lot of digging to find that KyBook and PocketBook are the only reliable epub readers that work with older versions of iOS. Not to mention the new UI is pretty pathetic.

Re:At last

[jittles]

A shortage of cell towers in the mountains? Imagine that.

The issue is not the shortage of cell towers. It’s the fact that I had to restart the device every time I wanted to use it and had signal because the model would be in a bad state from the last time it lost signal and would not do anything whatsoever without a restart. That is not normal behavior. It should gracefully handle the loss and return of service without a restart.

Re:At last

[TheFakeTimCook]

Now it's time to upgrade from 11 to 12

I might hold off on that if I were you. I am having serious radio issues with iOS 12 and I don't know that they are fixed in 12.0.1. I have a 7 and the radios will not let me do anything unless I have at least 3 bars. Also sometimes they just stop working until I restart the device. WiFi has been flaky as well. I was in the mountains this weekend and I basically had to restart my phone every time I wanted to use it. It seems the current radio firmware does not like when you have low reception.

So, you are recommending NOT upgrading to an OS version that announces fixes for some radio issues?

Talk about useless advice!

Re:At last

[TheFakeTimCook]

Better than what happened to my device, updated to 12.0, battery drained to zero, and it won't charge from anything. Apple says it's dead.

Liar.

Re:At last

[TheFakeTimCook]

A shortage of cell towers in the mountains? Imagine that.

The issue is not the shortage of cell towers. It’s the fact that I had to restart the device every time I wanted to use it and had signal because the model would be in a bad state from the last time it lost signal and would not do anything whatsoever without a restart. That is not normal behavior. It should gracefully handle the loss and return of service without a restart.

Perhaps you should try a clean install.

https://wccftech.com/clean-ins...

Oh, and just in case they still haven't address the issue of "missing PDFs", I would suggest you save-off any PDFs you have stored in iBooks separately from your iTunes backup. Justin Case.

Re:At last

[TheFakeTimCook]

I wish I hadn't. 12 also breaks progress syncing in iBooks with previous iOS versions, it took me a lot of digging to find that KyBook and PocketBook are the only reliable epub readers that work with older versions of iOS. Not to mention the new UI is pretty pathetic.

I actually like the new UI a bit better.

I am dissapointed in the sync not being backwards-compatible; but they have obviously changed their Library structure, and it would be inviting disaster to keep shuttling data-formats back and forth between "iBooks" and "Books" formats.

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

You seem to have overlooked that they said to hold off on upgrading from 11 to 12, and stated that their radio issues began when they upgraded to 12.
So, they're not saying to avoid updating to 12.0.1 if you're on 12. They're saying if you haven't installed the update that caused the radio issues, you would wait for them to be completely resolved.

  I'm sorry I had to parse that for you. Please continue to enjoy criticizing posts you didn't bother to read properly! :)

Re: At last

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, Apple is full of lairs. There were always, first and foremost, a marketing company.

Re:At last

[jittles]

Now it's time to upgrade from 11 to 12

I might hold off on that if I were you. I am having serious radio issues with iOS 12 and I don't know that they are fixed in 12.0.1. I have a 7 and the radios will not let me do anything unless I have at least 3 bars. Also sometimes they just stop working until I restart the device. WiFi has been flaky as well. I was in the mountains this weekend and I basically had to restart my phone every time I wanted to use it. It seems the current radio firmware does not like when you have low reception.

Please read the release notes. The patch notes only mention fixes for radio issues on iPhone Xs and not any other platform. It may not fix radio issues on other models. Also, please read what the AC also wrote - if you’re not having issues on iOS11 why update to 12.0.1 if there may still be radio issues?

So, you are recommending NOT upgrading to an OS version that announces fixes for some radio issues?

Talk about useless advice!

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

Now it's time to upgrade from 11 to 12

/s

You're a bit late to the party, given over half of iOS devices seem to already be upgraded:

* https://www.computerworld.com/article/3234507/mobile-wireless/ios-12-surpasses-ios-11-in-just-18-days.html

Whatever else you say about Apple, they make going to the newest OS generally quite easy and painless. Android phone makers should take note.

Re:At last

[Anonymous Coward]

Please read the release notes. The patch notes only mention fixes for radio issues on iPhone Xs and not any other platform. It may not fix radio issues on other models.

One thing about Apple updates is that their release notes are usually minimalistic to the point of uselessness. It's happened many times before that fixes for issues were included in the updates that were NOT mentioned (perhaps because by doing so they'd have to acknowledge the issue exists). That's why a lot of iPhone users update "just in case" it fixes a problem they've been facing.

Why say it affects iPhone XS and then retract?

[Anonymous Coward]

It resolves an issue that could cause some iPhone XS devices not to charge when connected to a Lightning cable (...) Reports suggested multiple iOS 12 devices were affected rather than just the iPhone XS

Why phrase this in such a way? Can't you make a sentence that makes it clear from the beginning that it affects a number of iPhones and that's it?

Re:Why say it affects iPhone XS and then retract?

[Anonymous Coward]

apple double talk?

Re: Why say it affects iPhone XS and then retract?

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple's officially change notes only mention XS. But for some reason, despite no one having any video showing any other phone don't it - people are convinced it happened on other phones.

Re:Why say it affects iPhone XS and then retract?

[TheFakeTimCook]

It resolves an issue that could cause some iPhone XS devices not to charge when connected to a Lightning cable (...) Reports suggested multiple iOS 12 devices were affected rather than just the iPhone XS

Why phrase this in such a way? Can't you make a sentence that makes it clear from the beginning that it affects a number of iPhones and that's it?

Um, because there are iOS Devices other than iPhones...

Apple peak bugs

[ReneR]

Brave new world^W Apple – A recollection of https://twitter.com/search?q=p...

More just working

[stealth_finger]

More just working, the extra care and attention apple put in really is worth the premium, right, right....right?

Re:More just working

[AmiMoJo]

Aren't they supposed to have an advantage because they have only a few models to support and tightly controlled hardware?

Re:More just working

[Anonymous Coward]

Which is partly why they take most of the profits in the mobile business. That and expensive high margin hardware.

Cheap ass android hardware nobody cares about except wireless carriers. Doesn't work, throw it out and get another one.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

More just working, the extra care and attention apple put in really is worth the premium, right, right....right?

Sure!

Wake me when Android has zero bugs...

Idiot Haters.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

Aren't they supposed to have an advantage because they have only a few models to support and tightly controlled hardware?

Considering they are currently supporting something like EIGHT generations of iPhones (from the 5s to the Xs), 4 or 5 generations of iPads (iPad mini 4 and up, IIRC), plus the 6th gen iPod Touch (which constitutes the ENTIRETY of Apple's 64-bit mobile line), all of which have differences in radio hardware, SoCs, GPUs, etc., I wouldn't say that they have to support "only a few models" anymore.

Re:More just working

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't recommend symmetry as your goalpost right after someone calls out the asymmetric pricetag.

Laughably asymmetric.

Idiot.

Re:More just working

[Anonymous Coward]

So they have a CI setup which takes a couple desks worth of space in any QA lab...

Re:More just working

[AmiMoJo]

That's not a lot of models. Maybe multiply by 3 to account for all hardware variations. Should be no problem for one of the richest companies in the world to organise testing that lot fully with every release cycle.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

That's not a lot of models. Maybe multiply by 3 to account for all hardware variations. Should be no problem for one of the richest companies in the world to organise testing that lot fully with every release cycle.

Of course. Predictable response.

I could have cited ANY number, and you would have claimed it to be "inconsequential".

Howabout YOU try it some time?

Oh, and BTW, testing all the HARDWARE variants doesn't come even CLOSE to testing ALL the possible variations of App Loads. And I submit, THAT is where nearly all of the "Surprise!" post-release issues come from.

Re:More just working

[AmiMoJo]

I have tried it. It's my job sometimes. Much of it could be automated. I'd have a room with 20 WiFi APs and an app to test connecting to them all, for example. Also employees running nightly builds.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

I have tried it. It's my job sometimes. Much of it could be automated. I'd have a room with 20 WiFi APs and an app to test connecting to them all, for example. Also employees running nightly builds.

Yeah, MS thought they could do automated testing, too.

Problem is, Automatd testing mostly only catches EXPECTED errors.

And what makes you think that Apple DOESN'T know how to test?

Re:More just working

[stealth_finger]

Oh, and BTW, testing all the HARDWARE variants doesn't come even CLOSE to testing ALL the possible variations of App Loads. And I submit, THAT is where nearly all of the "Surprise!" post-release issues come from.

Isn't that why the app store is so tightly controlled though, and aren't those apps basically independent of each other and the OS?

Re:More just working

[stealth_finger]

And what makes you think that Apple DOESN'T know how to test?

I can't believe you can ask that with a straight face. Ok maybe its not that they don't know how maybe it's just they don't bother properly.

Re:More just working

[stealth_finger]

More just working, the extra care and attention apple put in really is worth the premium, right, right....right?

Sure!

Wake me when Android has zero bugs...

Idiot Haters.

Wake me when apple stuff 'just works' and doesn't have its cheapest model with a 1080 screen over a grand.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

Oh, and BTW, testing all the HARDWARE variants doesn't come even CLOSE to testing ALL the possible variations of App Loads. And I submit, THAT is where nearly all of the "Surprise!" post-release issues come from.

Isn't that why the app store is so tightly controlled though, and aren't those apps basically independent of each other and the OS?

No.

The App Store is "so tightly controlled" for these reasons:

1. Security/Privacy/Malware considerations.

2. Acceptable Content. (This "line" can be argued until the Sun goes out).

3. Application is not in some way fraudulent. (Doesn't do what it says).

4. Other App Store guidelines are followed. (No private APIs, etc.) Again, this "line" can be endlessly debated.

But none of that makes the testing of the OS any less complicated.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

And what makes you think that Apple DOESN'T know how to test?

I can't believe you can ask that with a straight face. Ok maybe its not that they don't know how maybe it's just they don't bother properly.

I ask that, rather rhetorically, because even if APPLE didn't thoroughly test internally (which of COURSE they do), that the many months of Developer Previews and Public Betas serve to get a sense of any serious problems only seen in the wild.

But, the real answer is, there is NO software with ZERO issues, period.

Re:More just working

[TheFakeTimCook]

More just working, the extra care and attention apple put in really is worth the premium, right, right....right?

Sure!

Wake me when Android has zero bugs...

Idiot Haters.

Wake me when apple stuff 'just works' and doesn't have its cheapest model with a 1080 screen over a grand.

IMHO, the "It Just Works" catchphrase was a mistake, from a marketing standpoint. Why? Because it opens Apple up to EXACTLY your kind of snarky comment, whenever even the most inconsequential issue comes up. However, it is important to point out that it was not Apple that came up with that oft-quoted phrase: It was some writer in the tech press. Apple actually avoided using the phrase for quite some time, and still except for one slide in one Keynote (which showed the phrase as a quote from a REVIEW) doesn't use it in any marketing materials or advertisements.

In fact, this Reddit thread (yeah, I know...) seems to posit that same position, that the phrase did not originate from Apple (see last post) :

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOf...

So kindly stop that meme, because the phrase was NOT coined by Apple to describe THEMSELVES; but rather from OTHERS describing the difference between the majority of things Apple does, vs., primarily, Windows (but it CERTAINLY would stand in contrast to the typical LINUX experience as well!).

Thank fuck they fixed the keyboard.

[Anonymous Coward]

"Other bug fixes in this update include a reorientation of the "123" number key on the iPad, which was moved in the iOS 12 update and swapped with the emoji/language key"

This drove me nuts.

Re:Thank fuck they fixed the keyboard.

[TheFakeTimCook]

"Other bug fixes in this update include a reorientation of the "123" number key on the iPad, which was moved in the iOS 12 update and swapped with the emoji/language key"

This drove me nuts.

At least Apple listens to feedback and actually ACTS on it, unlike, say, Microsoft, which just keeps ramming bad ideas and silly UI paradigms down everyone's throat...

Does the evesdropping chip get upgraded?

[Anonymous Coward]

Does it also fix the covert Chinese hardware? wouldn't want that to crash.

Re:Does the evesdropping chip get upgraded?

[TheFakeTimCook]

Does it also fix the covert Chinese hardware? wouldn't want that to crash.

Moron.

That was allegedly in the SERVERS (with SuperMicro mobos) in Apple's DATACENTERS. It was NEVER in ANY Apple PRODUCT.

Besides which, Apple said it didn't actually happen (which, frankly, I am not sure if I believe).

More fixes, but what will it break?

[Anonymous Coward]

Always interesting how initial IOS releases always follow up with a fix release soon after. But couldn't Apple just shouldn't we expect a better product the first time? If Apple is so great, then why not polish up your first release better?

Re:More fixes, but what will it break?

[TheFakeTimCook]

Always interesting how initial IOS releases always follow up with a fix release soon after. But couldn't Apple just shouldn't we expect a better product the first time? If Apple is so great, then why not polish up your first release better?

Name me ONE OS that doesn't do that.

I'll wait.

Oh, right, Android; because there just ISN'T an Update for most people.

If only I'd let others try before I upgraded

[Anonymous Coward]

You have to ask yourself why you bothered installing a .0 release of anything to begin with. This is exactly why you don't.

Re:Buggy ugly shit

[Camembert]

A happy shareholder?

Always surprising considering few configurations

[Camembert]

Considering that Apple deals with a limited number of hardware configurations, unlike Android, it surprises me when some bugs weren’t intercepted before the first release.
In theory it is best to wait a month before installing, but I admit that I installed IOS12 immediately when it came out, luckily without obvious bugs, and featuring a noticeable boost in general smoothness of operation on my 4 year old 6 Plus, good enough to make me keep my phone for another year at least.

Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[sabbede]

I couldn't figure out why I kept accidentally opening the emoji panel, didn't think they would have done something as stupid as move it. I guess they did. Idiots. (yeah, I guess that includes me for not realizing they swapped the buttons)

Things missing

[speedlaw]

How about allowing me to turn on and off location services on the top swipe menu, not 13 swipes down, and LET US PICK OUR PREFERRED WIFI NETWORKS, DAMMIT

Re:Things missing

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow. Is it true you can't turn bluetooth off either and it will turn itself back on?
does wifi turn itself on?
can you turn "mobile data" off? (i.e. use the 2G/3G phone network, without connecting to the Internet)

I thought I'd become an iPhone user eventually but I wonder about stupid issues like this I don't know about or forget I read about years ago. Well if I ever do, at least I can turn off the phone.

And in typical apple style

[Anonymous Coward]

they will half fix 2 issues and generate 6 new bugs,
Software company my ass.

Lost 5g

[Anonymous Coward]

I updated both my Ipad and my Iphone. Both have now been unable to see my 5g connection. Only the 2g is available.

Re:Lost 5g

[TheFakeTimCook]

I updated both my Ipad and my Iphone. Both have now been unable to see my 5g connection. Only the 2g is available.

Try a clean install:

https://wccftech.com/clean-ins...

No, not true

[SuperKendall]

Wow. Is it true you can't turn bluetooth off either and it will turn itself back on?

No, false.

can you turn "mobile data" off? (i.e. use the 2G/3G phone network, without connecting to the Internet)

Yes, of course.

I thought I'd become an iPhone user

You should stick to the device meant for low-information tech users.

Re:No, not true

[Anonymous Coward]

You should stick to the device meant for low-information tech users.

So you're saying he should use an iPhone? Remember, Apple is the one that branded itself with the tagline "it just works".

Re:No, not true

[Anonymous Coward]

I usually agree with you SK, but don’t you think it’s a little weird that if you turn bluetooth off from the swipe up quick menu, it automatically turns itself back on 24 hours later?

It’d be much nicer if it just stayed of and I had a way to turn it on only when needed with a quick swipe.

That way I could avoid all the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi tracking and just turn on the services when I get in my car or at home instead of having to remember to turn it off every day or go menu diving. It really is an inferior system to what used to be there.

If they were smart they would make “locations” that would have radio presets. At home all on, in stores cell only, etc

Then I could manage my data and make sure shithead stores aren’t just slurping everything on me, building datasets, affecting my credit score based on where I shopped or my health insurance on where I ate.

It’s coming and it’d Be nice to avoid

Re:No, not true

[jittles]

Wow. Is it true you can't turn bluetooth off either and it will turn itself back on?

No, false.

can you turn "mobile data" off? (i.e. use the 2G/3G phone network, without connecting to the Internet)

Yes, of course.

I thought I'd become an iPhone user

You should stick to the device meant for low-information tech users.

The GP is correct. You cannot turn off bluetooth with the latest versions of iOS. Even if you turn it off, the bluetooth radio remains powered to work with the pencil and certain other devices. Go ahead. Give it a try. It’ll turn itself back on after 24 hours too. Same with WiFI, though I think WiFI radios actually do power off for 24 hours.

Re:No, not true

[worf_mo]

The GP is correct. You cannot turn off bluetooth with the latest versions of iOS. Even if you turn it off, the bluetooth radio remains powered to work with the pencil and certain other devices. Go ahead. Give it a try. It’ll turn itself back on after 24 hours too. Same with WiFI, though I think WiFI radios actually do power off for 24 hours.

This is only partially correct - the described behaviour applies only when Bluetooth (or Wifi) is turned off from Control Center - if it is turned off from within Settings it will stay off, and as far as I can tell it is powered off (no connection with other devices possible).

Re:No, not true

[cyberchondriac]

This is the correct answer right here.
To wit: it depends on whether you turn it off from the swipe up Control Panel, or from Settings.
If you turn it off via Control Panel, it will tell you it will be reenabled the next day. Kinda handy, actually.

Re:No, not true

[SuiteSisterMary]

To be even more accurate: it depends on if you hit the button explicitly designed as 'turn off Bluetooth connections other than the pencil and watch, and turn it back on after 24 hours,' or if you use the button explicitly designed as 'disable Bluetooth completely, yo.'

If you swipe up, and hit the 'temporarily disable bluetooth' button, and you're surprised that Bluetooth is only disabled temporarily, that's a you problem, not an Apple problem.

Re:No, not true

[jittles]

To be even more accurate: it depends on if you hit the button explicitly designed as 'turn off Bluetooth connections other than the pencil and watch, and turn it back on after 24 hours,' or if you use the button explicitly designed as 'disable Bluetooth completely, yo.'

If you swipe up, and hit the 'temporarily disable bluetooth' button, and you're surprised that Bluetooth is only disabled temporarily, that's a you problem, not an Apple problem.

Oh! SO there are two buttons to turn off bluetooth that do different things. Because that makes sense. Especially since the “turn off bluetooth connections other than the pencil and watch” button used to behave exactly the same as the one in settings.

Re:No, not true

[SuiteSisterMary]

Yup. To turn off Bluetooth completely, you go into settings, and slide the little Bluetooth slider to 'off.' I believe you are correct that the button in the shortcut pane used to do that, and now just does the temporarily disable thing. Note that it also puts a big old text thing on the screen explaining that this is what it's doing.

Re:Buggy ugly shit

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah! Like twenty years ago when I put everything I had into AAPL at $11.02.

Wait. I didn't. Good thing I had my shares of VALinux to fall back on.

Re:Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[Corbets]

I emailed Tim Cook about this one when the change was first made. It was an astoundingly poor design decision to differentiate the iPhone and iPad experiences that way.

And no, emailing him obviously had no effect, but I tried it nonetheless.

Re:Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[spire3661]

I hate it. I am constantly hitting it. I use numbers and symbols WAY more than i do emojis. For some reason Apple hates giving us options. I should be able to disable the emoji button, it has no use on my ipad.

Re:Buggy ugly shit

[TheFakeTimCook]

What kind of idiot would let Tim Cocksucker run a company.

The kind that enjoys having shares in the world's first Trillion-Dollar company.

Next question?

Re:Always surprising considering few configuration

[TheFakeTimCook]

Considering that Apple deals with a limited number of hardware configurations, unlike Android, it surprises me when some bugs weren’t intercepted before the first release.

In theory it is best to wait a month before installing, but I admit that I installed IOS12 immediately when it came out, luckily without obvious bugs, and featuring a noticeable boost in general smoothness of operation on my 4 year old 6 Plus, good enough to make me keep my phone for another year at least.

Hello? Public Beta. Been available for MONTHS.

But that still doesn't "beat" real life conditions with hundreds of millions of users.

Anyone who has written more complicated software than "Hello World" knows that.

Re:Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[TheFakeTimCook]

I couldn't figure out why I kept accidentally opening the emoji panel, didn't think they would have done something as stupid as move it. I guess they did. Idiots. (yeah, I guess that includes me for not realizing they swapped the buttons)

At least they put it back in short-order.

Try that with Microsoft.

Re:Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[TheFakeTimCook]

I emailed Tim Cook about this one when the change was first made. It was an astoundingly poor design decision to differentiate the iPhone and iPad experiences that way.

And no, emailing him obviously had no effect, but I tried it nonetheless.

What do you mean? Obviously, it did have an effect.

welp

[lactose99]

This is great! Too bad I can't upgrade my XS as its battery died waiting for this update :(

Re: Always surprising considering few configuratio

[Anonymous Coward]

Then why did they fire their QA team?

Re:Always surprising considering few configuration

[snapsnap]

From what I've seen of charging problems, that wasn't a software issue. Lightning connectors after a few months of use just get so loose after a few months that when the phone vibrates due to a notification, it can knock the charging cable loose. Where I work, we maintain a couple of iOS apps so we have about a dozen different devices used for testing. The older ones with the more secure 30-pin connectors never have a problem, but about half of the time I try to use a newer device, the lightning connector has come loose and the battery dead.

CSS kernel panic?

[Anonymous Coward]

Did they fix the kernel panic you can trigger via CSS? Because that seems to be kind of a big deal.

Apple

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple is for smart consumers. Google and Samsung are for fucking retards and the poor.

Re:Oh, no wonder! I thought it was just me

[sabbede]

100% agreement, same boat.

Re: Always surprising considering few configuratio

[TheFakeTimCook]

Then why did they fire their QA team?

Did they STAY "fired", or were they just replaced with a different Team?

Spoiler Alert: See below for the answer...

Considering the fact that Apple does their own Mechanical Product Testing, I would be VERY surprised if they didn't have an internal (human) Software QA Team, too.

In fact, these recent Job Postings make it pretty clear that Apple most CERTAINLY has an internal Software QA Team:

https://jobs.apple.com/us/sear...

https://www.indeed.com/q-QA-En...

Checkmate.

BTW, found those in one 5 second Google search.