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Walmart Patents Cart That Reads Your Pulse, Temperature (vice.com)

Walmart recently applied to patent biometric shopping handles that would track a shopper's heart rate, palm temperature, grip force, and walking speed. "The patent, titled 'System And Method For A Biometric Feedback Cart Handle' and published August 23, outlines a system where sensors in the cart send data to a server," reports Motherboard. "That server then notifies a store employee to check on individual customers." From the report: Over time, the server can build a database of data compared against store location and stress response, the patent says -- potentially valuable information for store planning. Other uses outlined in the patent include a pulse oximeter, for detecting when a customer's about to pass out, and a weight-triggered assisted push feature for propelling the cart itself. CBInsights suggests that these alerts could warn associates when several shoppers need help at the same time, or anticipate when arguments are about to break out.

116 comments

  1. Umm, how? by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I go to a gym. I can ride a bike, climb a mountain, or row a boat. Every fricken one of these machines has a display that shows me the exact same info, plus more regarding how hard I've been working.

    Somebody explain to me with a straight face how Walmart can patent something that I've seen in use for a good 4.5 years now.

    1. Re: Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Because they are applying it to fat retards instead of gym goers, oh wait, prior art exists if you have been measured

    2. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your gym has shopping carts?

    3. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when do patents have to specify where they're used?

      I just patented a phone that can be used in the living room. The patent for using it in the kitchen is pending.

    4. Re:Umm, how? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Since when do patents have to specify where they're used?

      "(insert any existing patent here) on the Internet".

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    5. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody explain to me with a straight face how Walmart can patent something that I've seen in use for a good 4.5 years now.

      Because on computers is old, but this is "on a shopping cart".

    6. Re: Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "fat retards"?

      Well that's one way to get the overweight off their asses and outside for some exercise, insult their intelligence rather than attack the real problem which the bad habit-feeback loop of overeating. Sure some people are just plain ignorant and don't care but for most being fat is often simply due to bad habits, not 'cos you're lazy or stupid. Break the bad habit chain, fill that void with something pratical like exercise and get healthier.

    7. Re:Umm, how? by Tuidjy · · Score: 1

      Your gym has shopping carts?

      You are looking at it the wrong way. This is not for those who have access to gyms.

      Walmart is providing health signs diagnostics to the homeless. A commendable effort.

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    8. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, I get it. Sold in the guise of "it will help us know if a customer passes out", but it will of course actually be used to figure out sales trends and further target market customers.

    9. Re: Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "fat retards"?

      People of walmart - 2am, or even broad daylight. Look it up, "retards" is being kind.
      I propose that someone now needs to patent privacy gloves that you wear when shopping at walmart. These block the signal and prevent fingerprinting, etc.

    10. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    11. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what you thought was important about this?

        Who gives a shit about the patent when this is a massive invasion of privacy and a way for Walmart to benefit from the unpaid labour of customers? If I shopped at Walmart, I would stop.

    12. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody explain to me with a straight face how Walmart can patent something that I've seen in use for a good 4.5 years now.

      Ah, but see, this is a shopping cart ... totally different thing. Also, it's got a network connection and uploads the data elsewhere, your treadmill isn't doing that.

      It's creepy as hell, and I'm not sure "adding a bunch of existing sensors to a handle and uploading to a server" should count as a patentable "invention" ... but so many patents are little more than "a system and method for doing a well known thing but using another thing and a computer" that it isn't funny.

      Patents are a joke. Wal Mart having biometric shopping carts is about as creepy as I can imagine.

    13. Re:Umm, how? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      "on a shopping cart"

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    14. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they'd found a way to measure the cart-user's weight, then they might be onto something. The thing is, mankind hasn't yet devised a means to physically weight landwhales, and currently still uses a system of estimation by visual. analysis. Such systems need to work at a distance to get the whole subject into a camera's frame, and as such are unsuitable for close-proximity situations like a shopping trolley.

    15. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy, are you behind the times. The workout machines at our campus rec center have had that option for a few years now. When you're done working out it asks if you want to save your results on your phone, a flash drive, or upload it to your account.

    16. Re:Umm, how? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Somebody explain to me with a straight face how Walmart can patent something that I've seen in use for a good 4.5 years now.

      "In a shopping cart."

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    17. Re:Umm, how? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Seems more like Walmart is providing its security personnel earlier notification of potential threats.

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    18. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walmart is providing health signs diagnostics to the homeless. A commendable effort.

      I agree, but "commendable effort" is not equal to "patentable effort", which is what the OP of this thread was bitching about.

    19. Re: Umm, how? by avatar+avatar · · Score: 1

      The article fails to mention the part of the patent that includes the intravenous anti-anxiety/antidepressant pump that is integral to the optimal Wal-Mart Experience.

    20. Re:Umm, how? by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Since they put the constraint of "handle of a shopping cart" in the claims.

    21. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The anti-theft cameras also let them notice when someone passed out - that is only an excuse.

      If people actually pass out in their stores, they should look into that before someone sues. What is wrong with these stores?

    22. Re:Umm, how? by anegg · · Score: 2

      Seems more like Walmart is providing its security personnel earlier notification of potential threats.

      I can't help but think there is probably some way that they plan to monetize this. Track customers, see what they get excited about as they roam the store, use that information to alter their displays and product selection to maximize revenue?

    23. Re:Umm, how? by anegg · · Score: 1

      Somebody explain to me with a straight face how Walmart can patent something that I've seen in use for a good 4.5 years now.

      Because on computers is old, but this is "on a shopping cart".

      "on a shopping cart AND with a computer"! Yet another innovative application! "on a shopping cart AND with a computer AND on a weekday!" (Patent lawyers discover untold realms of innovation available through Boolean expressions [patent pending])

    24. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, I get it. Sold in the guise of "it will help us know if a customer passes out",

      A good thing considering they are meth addicted inbred hillbillies...

    25. Re:Umm, how? by Kazymyr · · Score: 1

      ...where the shopping cart is painted white, or blue, or grey, or green. ...where the shopping cart has between 2 and 6 wheels. ...where the wheels are preferentially round. ...where the material of the wheels is one of: rubber, plastic, metal, wood. ...where the material of the wheels is one OR more of: rubber, plastic, metal, wood.

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    26. Re: Umm, how? by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      If they are that concerned about their fat customers, make those scooters require proof that the customer is qualified to park in a handicap space. If they are not, then they get a cart or a basket and must walk through the aisles like any other able bodied person.

      But no. Next thing these fuckers will focus on developing are Buy 'n Large hover chairs ala Wall-E instead.

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    27. Re: Umm, how? by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Faraday Gloves... That sounds like a good name for such an invention.

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    28. Re:Umm, how? by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it uses the same tech as those BMI readers that can tell how fat you are without needing to weigh you.

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    29. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know how they can patent it, but given how obvious it is they can't even keep the _wheels_ on the cart working, maybe they're just patenting the hardening it'll take to keep this going in the same environment.

    30. Re:Umm, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems more like Walmart is providing its security personnel earlier notification of potential threats.

      Exactly!

  2. FYI by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    Fingerprints are next...

    1. Re:FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah.,,need something new. I patent the idea of nose vein pattern--ology. The -- denotes a long verbal pause, in cause you're wondering.

    2. Re:FYI by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      They put the finger print in XML.

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    3. Re:FYI by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Fingerprints are next...

      Fingerprints... that's tame... What about a shopping trolley that takes DNA samples... tests you for drugs... automatically informs authorities.

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    4. Re:FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XML is so 1990s. It's be JSON, or even better, YAML.

  3. Is it ok to rob a bank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... if I call it an art project?

  4. The most important thing to know about by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    Wal-Mart shopping carts is the location of the anti-bacterial wipes in the front of the store.

    God only knows what the previous user of the cart did with it. Up to and including cooking meth...

    1. Re:The most important thing to know about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to work at Walmart. One thing that stuck with me was that, when we cleaned the trash out of the parking lot or store (and there was always trash), it went into a cart. And not a special cart either, a cart we grabbed from the rest then stuck right back when we were done. Just something to think about whenever you're throwing your food into the cart.

      Stuff falls on the floor all the time and gets put right back on the shelves, and the cart is probably no worse than the floor, so you'll probably be fine. But still, I think that really should have had a designated garbage cart or something.

  5. Just evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can u imagine what Walmart can do if they find out that cheese makes your heart race... Or a new DVD player.... It is already bad enough the monitoring of the free WiFi or the loyalty programs or how the the cameras monitor our shopping paytwrns to get layouts of stores..... Walmart trying to monetize their customers vital signs just disgusting

    1. Re:Just evil by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 1

      If stuff at walmart makes your heart race, you fully deserve whatever walmart does to you.

    2. Re:Just evil by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      If stuff at walmart makes your heart race, you fully deserve whatever walmart does to you.

      I had a strange experience at a walmart once. I walked in and there was an attractive woman shopping there.

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    3. Re:Just evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were testing a new technology that cloaks ugly customers and makes them look normal. You were turned into Beiber.

  6. What a fucking crock of shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked there. nobody gives a fuck. Only reason is to "please" the BoD.

    Fuck 'em...

  7. Can I patent shopping gloves? by ad454 · · Score: 1

    Which are made with anti-microbial materials which also block thermal, pulse, and fingerprint readings on the bottom of my hands which are used to grip the shopping carts.

    Just asking for a friend who is privacy and health concious.

    1. Re:Can I patent shopping gloves? by mentil · · Score: 1

      Stop resisting biometric monetization, citizen! Are you trying to force groceries to raise food prices beyond what poor single mothers are able to afford?! Please, think of the children, and let the shopping cart take a blood/saliva/stool/semen sample!

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    2. Re:Can I patent shopping gloves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps we should all wear full KISS makeup as well.

    3. Re:Can I patent shopping gloves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um your talking about Walmart carts right? I'm pretty sure they already have all of those samples you listed.

  8. Weight-triggered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should trigger on overweight wal-mart customers, and notify the store's main computer system for, oh, I don't know, reasons. To be especially sensitive to signs of a heart attack, especially if they are in the potato chip and fried pie aisle?

    Captcha: casket

  9. Realtime health insurance rate hikes by slazzy · · Score: 1

    Now they can sell the data to your health insurance provider to hike your rates in real-time instead of having to wait.

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  10. Teenagers shop too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they might have a bic lighter to test the limits of the temperature monitor. I hate touching those damn carts already! For that matter I hate sharing the air in these shops. Instead of monitoring my temperature, they should give me a hazmat suit.

  11. I’ve had an epiphany! by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    Those creepy aliens who abduct people and shove probes up their asses? They are actually just doing cutting-edge research for what will become the future of retail.

    And let me just say, I, for one, welcome our new alien-engineered, pulse and temperature-measuring shopping-cart overlords.

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    1. Re:I’ve had an epiphany! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those creepy aliens who abduct people and shove probes up their asses...

      ...are so behind the times. You call *that* an invasion of privacy?!

    2. Re:I’ve had an epiphany! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Those creepy aliens who abduct people and shove probes up their asses? They are actually just doing cutting-edge research for what will become the future of retail.

      And let me just say, I, for one, welcome our new alien-engineered, pulse and temperature-measuring shopping-cart overlords.

      I've always wondered- what if most species in the galaxy speak from out of their rear end? Or if most species have their brains in their butts?

      Aliens might just be sticking a voice recorder up there hoping you'll talk... or trying to do a brainscan to see if they find any intelligence. They must be really confused doing a brain scan and finding nothing but poop...

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    3. Re:I’ve had an epiphany! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if most species have their brains in their butts?

      Aliens might just be sticking a voice recorder up there hoping you'll talk... or trying to do a brainscan to see if they find any intelligence. They must be really confused doing a brain scan and finding nothing but poop...

      Thus the origin of the phrase "$hit for brains."

  12. Walmart Safety by mentil · · Score: 1

    Now Walmart will know where to position the fainting couches when shoppers get sticker shock, or see how long the lines are at the registers. I presume their legal derpment said it'd add no additional liability. The stores are always so understaffed I doubt anyone will be dispatched if anomalies are found, these things are going to have false positives all the time (like when they're wet from rain/snow, or a kid is in the cart). This is pure PR to send shoppers the message that they're safer at Walmart.

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    1. Re:Walmart Safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is so totally not for the customers' "safety". it's all about nailing the shoplifters... even those just thinking about it will trip an alarm to warn loss prevention to keep an eye on them due to the erratic rapid pulse they'll have.

  13. Re:Umm, learn to think? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They attached it to a shopping cart for the purpose of monitoring you, not for your own information. Stop being a moron.

  14. Oh great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they'll be able to tell which items are stressed over obtaining and jack the prices on basic necessities.

  15. WALMART TRICK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To boost the sale of gloves.

  16. Battery powered by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    These temperature and pulse monitors will have to be battery powered. Now the Wal-Mart employees have to plug in the regular shopping cars as well as the scooters for the disabled. Also, how long do you suppose these batteries last going from a 65 degree store to -20 degree parking lot (for hours) during the winter?

    Sure, they patent it, but I don't think they will IMPLEMENT it.

    1. Re:Battery powered by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      They will add a generator to the wheels. Resistance will be set according to your fitness.

    2. Re:Battery powered by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Solar power. Won't need much energy to test pulse and temperature- especially if it only does it once every time contact is established after contact lost.

      The stores are lit and the parking lot is lit... and half the shoppers are lit.

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    3. Re:Battery powered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as well as the scooters for the disabled

      While that is the (good) purpose for having those electric scooters, it's rare for a genuinely disabled person to use them.

      They're almost always used by fatties. I don't mean people who are 10-20 pounds overweight. I mean the real lardasses. The ones who *should* be walking as much as possible. The ones who have just plain given up.

      I used to be obese myself. I didn't like it so I did something about it. So I can understand (in general) making a bad decision and having to work your way out of an unpleasant situation. I believe everyone has done this in some way or another. What I can't understand is just giving up and letting it go completely unchallenged. The very worst are the ones who make excuses for it. No, you're not big-boned. Bones don't jiggle.

    4. Re:Battery powered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. That's actually an idea that I think is patentable. Seriously. If you know how to file for a patent, you should. Maybe Walmart or some manufacturer of shopping carts will be interested in buying your patent.

    5. Re:Battery powered by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Wal-Mart needs to hire a skilled marching band sousaphone player for each scooter they have. And then when someone uses a scooter who is just fat and not actually disabled, they get followed around the store accompanied by this little ditty.

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  17. Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they will at least have accurate data on the low-key incoherent rage that bubbles forth every time a shopper goes up to the twenty checkout lines, only one of which is ever staffed.

    1. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am fully convinced that at least 15 of those lines are purely for black friday.

      The store closest to me has started to move away from regular cash registers anyways. I think they might have 10 lines that are run by a human.
        One of which is open. All the rest are self checkouts. Including ones with conveyor belts.

  18. wow that will be one easy patent to shoot down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    go tho the gym. every piece of equipment there has a handle bar set of sensors doing just that... bikes, tread mills, rowing machines, stair climbers, and on and on I go!

  19. A patent can read pulse and temperature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A patent - an limited monopoly on an idea - can read my pulse and temperature? Wow, colour me impressed!

    (In other news I'm off to buy some gloves - ideally chain mail with some sort of grip enhancement so the reading is "ironman has entered the shop").

  20. Ridiculous by uldics · · Score: 1

    One of the dumb pstents. What innovation is there? What new technology? Just a recombination of existing ones so that some money would become extractable from similar ideas other kids would come up with as well. Should be denied without hesitation.

    1. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First time I see one on the street not being pushed by homeless; it's mine. Just a pile of parts for my Walmart shopping robot. Has built in wal-camo so it can get in and out easy with my goods.
      By the way... Anyone ever take one of the wheel brakes apart? Anything good in it?

    2. Re:Ridiculous by Okind · · Score: 1

      What innovation is there? What new technology? Just a recombination of existing ones [...].

      A recombination of existing technology is precisely something that should be (and is) patentable. Not that it's sufficient, it must still meet all the usual criteria of course.

      And although it may be novel and non-obvious that some greedy bastard actually has the guts to record medical information (i.e pulse) for a purpose I personally would never consent, but I wouldn't bet on it. Using this information for store optimizations is also not novel, as that's what store owners did before we had computers too. Except they did it by actually taking an interest in their customers, as opposed to just their wallet.

      Sadly this is in the US, where using such a patent might actually be legal.

  21. Patent Office filed it under by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "PHB Bullshit" ... and took the fee anyhow.

  22. And the KGB thought it knew how to spy on people by Crashmarik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They have nothing on people with dollars in their eyes. Walmart just turned their stores into polygraphs that will monitor their customers physical response to advertising. Bravo. Even the Soviet Union couldn't find a way to pry out people's thoughts.

  23. Another bullshit patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing in this patent is new, nor the methods of integration any different to products already on the market which do the same thing, albeit without "Shopping cart ID" as the pivot point.

    Aside from that, collecting data like this is just one step away from fingerprint scanning to determining the customer for realsies. Not that it would be hard to recognise people with enough heartbeats, pressure grips, movement patterns etc. Any 2 of these can determine the person with a high degree of accuracy these days. Maybe even one is all that is needed with enough data.

    Not that it matters almost, anymore. We have to pay for our plastic bags now and with Uber Eats, why go to the market anyways?

    1. Re:Another bullshit patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What this really does is track those who take the cart off prem. Those people the next time in the market place will unknowingly alert the security and swiftly apprehended. The video footage will match the time tag of the incident to verify as proof.

    2. Re:Another bullshit patent by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      What this really does is track those who take the cart off prem

      Those devices already exist. They lock the cart wheels as soon as a shopping cart is removed from the property.

      Rather than stymie the homeless, however, this Fitbit-mabopper sounds like Wal-Mart is giving the homeless free fitness trackers. Not even my insurance does that. How's that for community outreach?

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  24. LOLwut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Walmart can't even keep low-tech carts maintained correctly. You think they're going to be able to maintain high-tech carts?

    At my store, they ruin the cart wheels almost by dragging the line of carts sideways when they're retrieving the carts from the cart return corrals. This makes most of the carts pull to one side, but the worst ones make a ka-chunk ka-chunk noise because dragging the cart sideways created a flat spot on the wheel.

  25. Sales sales sales by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'll use it so they can correlate any perceived interest in a particular product and then manipulate things to try and get you to buy it.

    "Hey, his heart rate and BP spiked when he saw the Chocolate Blammo cereal boxes on aisle 4, but he didn't grab any. Quick, send a text to his phone with a 10% off coupon for Chocolate Blammo."

    Don't think for a moment that this isn't the ultimate goal of this "helpful" monitoring. I mean really, do you think Safeway or Kroger gives a shit about your blood oxygen level or heart rate except to use it to sell you more shit?

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    1. Re:Sales sales sales by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

      Ding ding ding, that's exactly what this is for.

  26. Sounds like Liability issues by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Sounds like Liability issues lets say some has an hart attract and wallmart does nothing.

    1. Re:Sounds like Liability issues by jrumney · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oh come on, stop pretending you believe the story that this is for the health and wellbeing of their customers. This is for one thing, and one thing only - tracking your subconscious reaction to the advertisements and promotions they have all over the store, in order to figure out how to entice you to spend more of your payday loans with Walmart.

    2. Re:Sounds like Liability issues by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

      Walmart already has disclaimers stating they're not liable for damages if a cart hits your car, they'll just add one for medical emergencies while using the carts. Alternatively, Walmart could say that that by using these carts you either consent not to hold them liable, or to arbitration in a venue of their choice (most likely at or near their headquarters in BFE Arkansas).

    3. Re:Sounds like Liability issues by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      hart attract? Some kind of deer pheromone?

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    4. Re:Sounds like Liability issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      Obviously.

  27. Check for flu virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does pushing the shopping cart make your pulse go up a little?

    Here's what I want: I want a meter that you can put near a shopping cart (or a table, door handle, etc), and the meter would tell you if the shopping cart had something contagious on it, like a flu virus.

  28. The US needs some more privacy laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but you guys do not seem to care much about that.

    1. Re:The US needs some more privacy laws by Okind · · Score: 1

      but you guys do not seem to care much about [privacy].

      Or they just care about convenience more.

      Remember, this is the country that uses a public identifier (SSN) as authorization. Sure, the IRS tells you you must keep it secret, but good luck getting a bank account, work, etc. if you do that.

      Given the lack of persistent public outcry that could fix that -- or real change after the many data breaches the last few years, I think it's safe to say that those who do care about privacy either have left the country already or are silenced by other means, such as poverty (no time to protest) or exclusion (because they can't pay the bribes^H^H^H^H^H^Hcampaign contributions).

  29. How is this innovative or novel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Essentially its a fitbit on a cart. That's an obvious application of prior art. I call BS.

  30. Let me guess: they run an Intrapreneur dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and that's what those f*ers came up with. Gotta show the board their worth and now they get to call themselves "inventors".

  31. This is for their target demographic by TomBauserman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The odds of their target demographic having a heart attack in the store are pretty high. They're just trying to avoid in store heart attacks.

    1. Re:This is for their target demographic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except even with ICU monitoring, you can't predict when someone is about to have a heart attack.
      This is not about fat customers; it's about fat profits. Minority Report was actually underestimating the danger.

  32. make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't want my shopping cart to monitor me

  33. biometric data capture by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

    Hmmm. Capturing biometric data to pair with exposure to various in-store simuli, retail displays, signage, check out lines etc. All in the guise of giving you some run-of-the-mill fitness feedback.

    Because that is not creepy at all.

    We will call it... wait for it.... Well Cart!

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    1. Re: biometric data capture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like I'll be grabbing some pipe insulation for these carts.

    2. Re: biometric data capture by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Capturing biometric data to pair with exposure to various in-store simuli, retail displays, signage, check out lines etc. All in the guise of giving you some run-of-the-mill fitness feedback.

      Because that is not creepy at all.

      We will call it... wait for it.... Well Cart!

      Pretty close, but I think it'll be "Walcart."

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  34. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "these alerts could warn associates when several shoppers need help " ... so they'll know that its time to take their lunch break.

  35. MY Intellectual property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My BIO information is MY intellectual property and anybody that tries to read it without my explicit written permission is agreeing to pay me Ten Million U.S. Dollars payable on demand.

  36. This looks familiar... by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 1

    A carriage provided by a huge retail corporation that monitors the health and needs of the customer? This seems familiar...

    Oh yeah, it's version 0.01 of the Wall-E Hoverchair.

    Just as 1984 was never intended as an instruction manual for politicians, so neither was Wall-E for corporations. Neither are futures I want to live in.

  37. This would be so much fun to troll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just need some way of pushing the cart without communicating any biometrics. Maybe a really well-insulated glove.

    "Call Security, the customer walking down aisle nine appears to be a zombie. He has no vital signs."

    captcha: organs

  38. Heart attack in aisle 3, cookies and candy by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    Alert store associates. We have a possible heart attack in aisle 3. Reported individual is clogging the aisle due to their weight and breathing heavy.
    Update to Store associates. Possible heart attack has been downgraded to possible orgasm over the our fine selections of sugar products.

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  39. My data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the trip went well. But I could feel my heart rate rise and palms getting sweaty as I went to my last stop. As I grabbed for the item my heart rate peaked. Ya, you guessed it. No woman is getting knocked up tonight!

  40. Check the staff, instead by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 1

    I think it'd be more beneficial to put heart rate monitors and temperature probes on the store greeters to make sure they're still alive. Then, when they do die, they can quickly be replaced before any one notices.

  41. Lycra monitoring! by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 1

    Checks each shopper for the percentage of lycra worn vs body mass. Have too much of each, you're banned in the interests of public health

  42. Try reading the claims of the patent by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    The abstract and title of a patent are not the claims of the patent. Just because the abstract or title do no include every constraint does not mean that the inventors are making claims without constraints.

  43. LOL! How Much Does It Cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems that half my local Walmart's carts end up in the river? and another 25% are being used as moving vans for homeless people.

    I wonder how much these fancy carts might cost.

  44. Yet another, fun reason ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

    ... to always carry a stun gun at Walmart.

  45. Hello Shopper, by BadTuna · · Score: 1

    "Your BMI of 32.5 is looking a little low. Why not head over to aisle 14 where you can find all the sugar-laden, empty calorie shit foods you know you want."

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  46. More creepy-as-fuck shit posted today by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    When is everyone going to get sick and tired enough of everything you do being surveiled tracked and logged that you finally say 'enough is enough'?
    Also I'm so glad I never shop at Walmart.

  47. Re:Umm, learn to think? by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

    Like I posted in the Alexa article earlier...

    #WalkAwayFromTheseOrwellianFuckers

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  48. Re: I've had an epiphany! by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    Those creepy aliens who abduct people and shove probes up their asses? They are actually just doing cutting-edge research for what will become the future of retail.

    And let me just say, I, for one, welcome our new alien-engineered, pulse and temperature-measuring shopping-cart overlords.

    I've always wondered- what if most species in the galaxy speak from out of their rear end? Or if most species have their brains in their butts?

    Aliens might just be sticking a voice recorder up there hoping you'll talk... or trying to do a brainscan to see if they find any intelligence. They must be really confused doing a brain scan and finding nothing but poop...

    (Conversation translated into English from an alien language:)

    "Lord Captain Qrellxys, we have completed the scans of the dominant lifeforms of Planet 347-T8. They are shaped like us, but where we have our excretory organs, they have strange, soft, squishy, pink, crenulated lumps of flesh. We are unsure what the functions of these organs are."

    "Odd, Bio-Researcher First Class Dwnaurvf. Tell me... do they have brains like ours, centrally located between our sensory bulbs and our feet?"

    "No, Lord Captian. These humans... my Bio-Researchers have scanned every one the subjects passed to them by the Collection Team... and it has been concluded that they all have shit for brains. Every last one."

    "Explains a lot."

    "We have reached the identical conclusion, Lord Captain."

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  49. Cart theft? by Toshito · · Score: 1

    They already have lots of cart stolen, imagine the attraction of a cart containing all this technology!

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  50. Step 1 . Wear gloves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Step 2. Profit

    Or whatever

    Does it also scan your finger printz? Oh man I should totally patent that! A shopping cart that scans finger prints to id shoppers.

    And eye retina scanners at the end of ales to identify people.

    And at the checkout to id cash pays

    And to link cc payments to people

    Go me!!! I'll be rich!