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In an Open Letter, Microsoft Employees Urge the Company To Not Bid on the US Military's Project JEDI (medium.com)

On Tuesday, Microsoft expressed its intent to bid on the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI) contract -- a contract that represents a $10 billion project to build cloud services for the Department of Defense. The contract is massive in scope and shrouded in secrecy, which makes it nearly impossible to know what technologies Microsoft would be building for the Department of Defense. At an industry day for JEDI, DoD Chief Management Officer John H. Gibson II explained the program's impact, saying, "We need to be very clear. This program is truly about increasing the lethality of our department." This has ruffled a few feathers inside the Redmond-based software giant. In an open letter published Saturday, an unspecified number of Microsoft employees stated their disapproval. They wrote: Many Microsoft employees don't believe that what we build should be used for waging war. When we decided to work at Microsoft, we were doing so in the hopes of "empowering every person on the planet to achieve more," not with the intent of ending lives and enhancing lethality. For those who say that another company will simply pick up JEDI where Microsoft leaves it, we would ask workers at that company to do the same. A race to the bottom is not an ethical position. Like those who took action at Google, Salesforce, and Amazon, we ask all employees of tech companies to ask how your work will be used, where it will be applied, and act according to your principles.

We need to put JEDI in perspective. This is a secretive $10 billion project with the ambition of building "a more lethal" military force overseen by the Trump Administration. The Google workers who protested these collaborations and forced the company to take action saw this. We do too. So we ask, what are Microsoft's A.I. Principles, especially regarding the violent application of powerful A.I. technology? How will workers, who build and maintain these services in the first place, know whether our work is being used to aid profiling, surveillance, or killing? Earlier this year Microsoft published "The Future Computed," examining the applications and potential dangers of A.I. It argues that strong ethical principles are necessary for the development of A.I. that will benefit people, and defines six core principles: "fair, reliable and safe, private and secure, inclusive, transparent, and accountable."

With JEDI, Microsoft executives are on track to betray these principles in exchange for short-term profits. If Microsoft is to be accountable for the products and services it makes, we need clear ethical guidelines and meaningful accountability governing how we determine which uses of our technology are acceptable, and which are off the table. Microsoft has already acknowledged the dangers of the tech it builds, even calling on the federal government to regulate A.I. technologies. But there is no law preventing the company from exercising its own internal scrutiny and standing by its own ethical compass.
Further reading: Google Drops Out of Pentagon's $10 Billion Cloud Competition.

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  1. It's bad when trump does it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But A-OK when Obama did it!

    1. Re: It's bad when trump does it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This submission screams political interest piece courtesy of msmash. I wonder how many heads would explode if these people were told that war has been waged for tens of thousands of years and Donald Trump is just the current president keeping the arms sharpened.

      At least it's not Obama bombing us Nationals with drones.

    2. Re: It's bad when trump does it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the heart of the letter is not far off from a good point, adding Trump in there certainly is illogical and hurts their argument though

    3. Re: It's bad when trump does it by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This submission screams political interest piece courtesy of msmash.

      How is it a political piece and not an story on ethics? This is of genuine interest to the people who are interested in IT. How should people who don't work in a traditional defense industry react when they are asked to work on a project that is described by DOD's chief management officer as "about increasing the lethality of our department"? Do you think that this story should have been swept under the carpet?

      I wonder how many heads would explode if these people were told that war has been waged for tens of thousands of years and Donald Trump is just the current president keeping the arms sharpened.

      These aren't stupid people. You aren't going to teach them anything by pointing out that war isn't a new thing. But just because war has been waged for thousands of years does not mean to that they want to play a part in killing people. And the message in the letter is not that they object to working the Trump administration (there are plenty of government contracts that Microsoft bids for that doesn't generate a backlash).

      Nor are they advocating that the JEDI program should not exist. There message is simply that they do not want to be part of it.

    4. Re: It's bad when trump does it by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nor are they advocating that the JEDI program should not exist. There message is simply that they do not want to be part of it.

      Two things:

      1) if they don't want to be part of it, then they can always leave MS for some other company...

      2) "There message" --- their message? where message?

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    5. Re: It's bad when trump does it by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They reject Trump for ethical, not political reasons. They do not want to empower him because he is dangerously unethical, not because he is a Republican.

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    6. Re: It's bad when trump does it by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Choosing to not work for the US military is not the same as working against the US military.

      They already don't work for the US military, and that's perfectly fine. Where they cross over the line and start working against the US military is when they start advocating that others (in this case, the entire company) refuse to work for the US military.

    7. Re: It's bad when trump does it by jeff4747 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How is it a political piece and not an story on ethics?

      Because Microsoft sells lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of software to the DoD already. All of it is in service of killing people - that's what the DoD does.

      To suddenly be concerned that there could be classified Azure instances would seem like a strange place to draw the line if you were so concerned that your company's software could be used for violence. You'd think their deep non-violent beliefs would also extend to the rest of Microsoft's software.

    8. Re: It's bad when trump does it by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be an incredibly stupid reason given the tiny fraction of the military budget this project represents. It would also be ridiculously shortsighted given that, in principle, increasing lethality could allow for a reduction of future costs rather than an increase.

      But, really, their reasons don't matter; the question at hand was whether they're actively working against the interests of their country, and the answer is yes. Yes they are. Even if they're doing it with the purest of intentions it doesn't change the fact that they are doing it. Just like robbing a pharmacy to get pills for your bedridden mother doesn't change the fact that you robbed a pharmacy.

  2. Why won't those folks just quit? by bogaboga · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many Microsoft employees don't believe that what we build should be used for waging war. When we decided to work at Microsoft, we were doing so in the hopes of "empowering every person on the planet to achieve more," not with the intent of ending lives and enhancing lethality

    It's for this very reason that these employees should quit. I mean...the USA is a "free" country, no? In fact they (the USA), pride themselves with the mantra:

    "The land of the free."

    Further, they (the people), and the media "echo chamber" *cough* *cough*, refer to their president as being the "leader" of the free world.

    So, why don't they just quit?

    I understand that folks here may simply say that the same freedom I am talking about allows them to do exactly whet they are doing. Just quit...problem solved.

    1. Re:Why won't those folks just quit? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many Microsoft employees don't believe that what we build should be used for waging war. When we decided to work at Microsoft, we were doing so in the hopes of "empowering every person on the planet to achieve more," not with the intent of ending lives and enhancing lethality

      It's for this very reason that these employees should quit. I mean...the USA is a "free" country, no?

      Why would you quit if doing so would do nothing to prevent the very thing you objected to? It only makes sense to quit after you make your objections clear and they ignore them.

      You should be glad this is the land of the free because people like you are free to say the absolute dumbest things without being jailed. ;)

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  3. Re:Defense by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder what these same employees would do when China comes knocking on their freedom.

    China has no interest in "attacking our freedom".

    America has 170,000 troops in East Asia. China has none in North America.

  4. Did you vote for Obama in his second term? by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you did you already actively gave approval for military action. Sorry but trying to pretend you are too good of a person when you already voted for a president that takes unilateral military action in nations we are not at war with. That is active consnet folks. If you say pull the trigger refusing the make the bullets is just lying to yourself.

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    1. Re:Did you vote for Obama in his second term? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Logical fallacy. There was a choice of two candidates, likely both would have continued with military action and killed innocent people, and opting for the least bad choice is not an endorsement of everything they do. In fact voting for anyone is not an endorsement of every action they take, either up to that point or in the unknowable future.

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    2. Re:Did you vote for Obama in his second term? by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. There were more than two candidates. The OP is right. If you voted for Obama you are voting for the status quo. And don't give me that BS that "there are really only two candidates". No, there weren't. You just liked "your guy", and like a good SJW perception is reality.

  5. I really wish by Sqreater · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really wish we could all be naive hyper-liberal globalist-humanists. I would jump on that bandwagon in a second if the whole world went in that direction at the same time. But it isn't. There are really bad actors in this world who would like to destroy all our rights, freedoms, and our safety, even our lives. And the nation is the container of those things. If we do not take actions to protect the container of everything we have and are those things will spill out, destroyed. So, feel smug, hyper-liberals, but you will be responsible for your own demise. And yes boys and girls, sometimes you as a nation have to kill those people trying to kill you. That's the real world. Grow up.

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    1. Re:I really wish by jittles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And yes boys and girls, sometimes you as a nation have to kill those people trying to kill you. That's the real world. Grow up.

      Perhaps... but that doesn't mean people should have to take part in something they find morally objectionable, does it?

      Also, you might find this hard to believe but a lot more people are killed by domestic bad actors than foreign bad actors. It makes little sense to spend so much on people who are such a small threat.

      No they should not be forced to participate in something that they find to be morally objectionable. But I think they fail to realize that increasing the lethality of the US Military does not automatically equate to people dying somewhere. It's quite possible that doing so would deter a war that would have ultimately resulted in even more deaths than this program *may* potentially result in. They may be saving lives around the world and, almost certainly, would be saving lives of members of the US military. Technology can be used for good or for evil.

      I don't think any sane or rational being would want anyone to die in a conflict and yet we continue to have war and conflict throughout the world. The world would be a lot better off if no one had to work on these sorts of projects but could spend their time and their energy doing things that benefit humanity. Unfortunately, I don't believe that human nature and global events will change any time soon.

    2. Re:I really wish by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are really bad actors in this world who would like to destroy all our rights, freedoms, and our safety, even our lives.

      Jesus, straight from the mouth of warmongers.

      You're right. There are some crazy people. Always have been. Always will be. But this idea that the whole world would is out to get is is hysterical bullshit. The US's defense/military dwarfs everybody else's on the planet by orders of magnitude. Nobody can invade us or hurt you. Just fucking relax and turn off Fox News. Maybe try to travel to other countries, where you'll see that 99.999% of people are just trying to get through this life, just the same as you.

      We, as a country, do not need to spend any more money defending ourselves from the boogeyman.

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  6. America is Going to Fail by rally2xs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its plain. When its citizens don't agree that the country is worth protecting in the most effective ways possible, then other countries are going to deploy similar technology and defeat us. Its similar to hang together or hang separately. I'm glad I'm 71, and likely won't live to see the ultimate calamity of Chinese or maybe even Indian subjugation of the American people.