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US Senators Urge India To Soften Data Localization Stance (reuters.com)

Two U.S. senators have called on Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to soften India's stance on data localization, warning that measures requiring it represent "key trade barriers" between the two nations. From a report: In a letter to Modi dated Friday and seen by Reuters, U.S. Senators John Cornyn and Mark Warner -- co-chairs of the Senate's India caucus that comprises over 30 senators -- urged India to instead adopt a "light touch" regulatory framework that would allow data to flow freely across borders. The letter comes as relations between Washington and New Delhi are strained over multiple issues, including an Indo-Russian defense contract, India's new tariffs on electronics and other items, and its moves to buy oil from Iran despite upcoming U.S. sanctions.

Global payments companies including Mastercard, Visa and American Express have been lobbying India's finance ministry and the Reserve Bank of India to relax proposed rules that require all payment data on domestic transactions in India be stored inside the country by October 15. The letter is most likely a last-ditch effort after the RBI told officials at top payment firms this week that the central bank would implement, in full, its data localization directive without extending the deadline, or allowing data to be stored both offshore as well as locally -- a practice known as data mirroring. "We see this (data localization) as a fundamental issue to the further development of digital trade and one that is crucial to our economic partnership," the U.S. senators said in the letter that has not been previously reported.

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  1. Kind of ironic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    US Government once again trying to do the exact opposite of what you'd expect. Why is it other countries recognizes the threat of storing data about their own citizens outside their borders, EXCEPT the "5 eyes"? Could it be India ALSO wants to backdoor encryption which would at least in theory prohibit them from storing OUR data?

    Which would also make it very difficult if not impossible for companies to outsource to India. That isn't such a bad idea.

  2. How about minding one's own business? by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Two U.S. senators have called on Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to soften India's stance on data localization...

    Question is, how about nations minding their own business?

    Is that too much to ask?

    1. Re:How about minding one's own business? by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Close, but I think this is a case of the U.S. minding its own businesses.

    2. Re:How about minding one's own business? by PPH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about India demand reciprocity for FATCA and just start auditing any US financial institutions suspected of holding suspected Indian citizens' financial records? Yes, it's about money. But it's also about foreign institutions and governments digging around in the records of its citizens.

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    3. Re:How about minding one's own business? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, no, a countries economy is it's business, so they are trying to mind India's economic business, to exploit Indians and favour US corporations, so they are trying to mind someone eles's business against that countries citizens interests.

      US tech companies are going to get kicked out of the rest of the world, because security letters out of a corrupt US government that compromise other countries digital security are entirely too easy. It does not help that moronic US government officials, keep pushing control on other countries against those countries citizens interests, keep demanding dominance, talk about first strikes from cyber warfare to nuclear strikes, routinely interfere with other countries politics in the most horrendous fashion and practically declare war on a made up instance of Russia's interference, yet routinely ignore the UKs, Israel's and even Saudi Arabia's interference (at least that one is coming to and end).

      They are really lucky India politicians just no simply tell them to go fuck themselves publicly, after being fucked over by the UK purposefully splitting the country to create a civil war and keep them divided and weak and the US treating them obedient dogs, well, come to expect NO as the routine answer and yeah, everyone wants to buy Russian S400s to keep the US out because they now NATO supplied anti-air systems will not shot down US aircraft, there are some really interesting back doors in there to find and exploit. I mean, nothing would benefit Russian fighter sales, like US supplied aircraft falling out of the sky when their engines are turned off.

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  3. The Indians aren't stupid by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    they know damn well how outsourcing works and they'll be damned if you're gonna do it to them. Wanna do business in our country? Then you damn well better hire our people.

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  4. Corruption vs democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the US, you can only buy senators and above.

    In India you can buy any one.

    True democracy.

    1. Re:Corruption vs democracy by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yep: corruption being available to the average person is actually a huge democratizing force. Being able to pay an officious cop to go piss off is better than being excessively fined for minor things like in the US.

  5. Trump... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They have learned India First...... as has much of the world.
    They have also learned no deal is better than a bad deal.

    Oh, they have learned that the USA treats is "friends" pretty much the same as it treats is enemies and that the USA will interfere with local elections, trade, etc , etc.

  6. Re:There are two stages to this by Miles_O'Toole · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm somehow not surprised that as an American, you would get that exactly backwards. The end of that program would mean the best students India just spent time and money educating will no longer have the option of taking all that government-paid expertise and leaving India for the United States with it.

    So yes, by all means threaten to cancel the H-1B program...then watch Indian officials laugh in your face and invite you to kiss their ass.

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  7. Re:India Would Suffer - Trade Would Be Impeded by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Same applies in reverse. There's a reason why India has been the stickler in all global negotiations on trade for last half a century. They don't need the world trade. Their economy is self-contained, able to consume what it produces because of its healthy demographics. Example of this is in the fact that even China was forced to sign up to medicine patenting and payment regimes, as China needs foreign market access, and that was one of the fields powerful enough to actually get China cut off.

    India still hasn't. They told the world powers insisting they sign or else to get fucked. And they do to this day. Which is why the "fake medicines" are overwhelmingly produced in India, and most of them are about as good as genuine stuff, and there's nothing that patent holders can do about it in spite of massive efforts both on their own part, and on the part of their parent states.

    India can afford to walk away from essentially any negotiation on trade should its interests dictate it does so even when threatened with massive economic sanctions. It's unique among all the major states in the world in this ability.