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New York Attorney General Expands Inquiry Into Net Neutrality Comments (nytimes.com)
The New York attorney general subpoenaed more than a dozen telecommunications trade groups, lobbying contractors and Washington advocacy organizations on Tuesday, seeking to determine whether the groups sought to sway a critical federal decision on internet regulation last year by submitting millions of fraudulent public comments, according to a person with knowledge of the investigation. From a report: Some of the groups played a highly public role in last year's battle, when the Republican-appointed majority on the Federal Communications Commission voted to revoke a regulation issued under President Barack Obama that classified internet service providers as public utilities. The telecommunications industry bitterly opposed the rules -- which imposed what supporters call "net neutrality" on internet providers -- and enthusiastically backed their repeal under President Trump. The attorney general, Barbara D. Underwood, last year began investigating the source of more than 22 million public comments submitted to the F.C.C. during the battle. Millions of comments were provided using temporary or duplicate email addresses, others recycled identical phrases, and seven popular comments, repeated verbatim, accounted for millions more.
With the "all comments that weren't pro-NN were submitted by Russian bots" argument?
You can't have the judicial branch enforce administrative law. This is clearly assigned to the Executive branch. The republicans are in charge and this is there policy. It needs to be law from Congress if you want to enforce it.
Of course they played a role.
They bribed republicans to select Pai as Chairman of the FCC (after previously bribing republicans to nominate him as their choice for Obama to place on the FCC in the first place) who used to work for the Telcoms so that he would vote in their interest.
What more investigation do you need?
Fraud is policy
Ah come on, we had a story on this story yesterday and again today?
What is this? It sure looks like one party is trying to beat this dead horse for votes and Slashdot is the willing pawn in this whole ridiculous business about Net Neutrality.
Come on... Give this garbage a rest and stop putting Slashdot overtly into the fray with rehashed politically biased stories we hashed out yesterday and the day before, and the week before that.....
Everybody vote how you want.... And stop posting these electioneering BS stories on Slashdot, it's starting to look like there is a partisan agenda here or something.
You can't just go around claiming all comments you disagree with are fake. How do YOU know your grandmother doesn't have strong feelings about net neutrality? You didn't even talk to her when she was alive, have you asked her about it since she died? Thought not. Grow up and realize nobody likes net neutrality.
Regards, Jefferson Airplane.
The anti-network neutrality comments involved fraud. The question becomes, "who is complicit?" The FCC, to be sure. Find the others. Hang 'em high.
How original! ;-P
New York is as corrupt as New Jersey.
I guess, then, I'd have to agree with you.
Truth isn't Truth - Guliani
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism - is as much of your argument as anything related to Ajit Pai's FCC allowing botnets to "wag the dog" with BS comments, then trying to pretend it didn't happen and covering it up.
If you want to pretend NY and NJ are the ones on trial for wrongdoing here, you're going to need a few more stuffed animals and some type of biscuits to make it a proper tea party.
All those duplicate posts and made up addresses could have just as easily come from Russian hackers (or Korean, or Chinese, or...). Just saying. Or maybe we're our own shittiest enemy here.
We sure do have a bad habit of pointing fingers at our favourite villains when ever anything difficult to trace happens over the internet.
You can't adjudicate administrative law into existence the judicial branch doesn't have that power. The republicans are in power and this is their policy. If you want it permanent you need to pass a law by congress. This is the whole point of administrative law.
Failure to report a crime is a crime. Fraud is a crime. Covering up a crime is a crime. All of these are valid to investigate and Ajit Pai has failed to do so. Your "defense" isn't really doing anything about it, sorry Bobbie.
Get mad if you need to but investigations of this aren't even political, it's standard procedure to investigate fraud and coverups. Deal with it or lose your shit, it makes zero real world difference. Fraud is being investigated.
Like a corrupt NYC mayor
https://nypost.com/2016/04/13/...
Or Jobs creation programs that don't create jobs but line the pockets of the governor's friends
https://www.manhattancontraria...
Oh wait, he's a democrat and this is called prosecutorial discretion.
What's the probable cause here?
I suspect some these groups will challenge this subpoena in state or federal court.
Lots of "Public Opinion" is generated by non-citizen actors, that is, people hiding behind anonymity and money. Laws could fix this, but, alas, there is more money than there are people with guts.
Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur...
"Force shits upon Reason's back." - Poor Richard's Almanac
You're really working overtime trying to make fraud not a crime anymore, why is that? It's not going to work lol.
Whataboutism 101
Said the Wizard to Dorothy
Lots of "Public Opinion" is generated by non-citizen actors, that is, people hiding behind anonymity and money. Laws could fix this, but, alas, there is more money than there are people with guts.
That will change, after Trump's policies (with the support of all his Trumptards) have run their course. It will make the crash of '07 look like a picnic by comparison, and at the end of it there probably won't be enough money left in the entire country to buy a cappucino, much less buy off the cheap politicians who've been whoring themselves to the right these past couple of decades.
Would be amusing to watch, if the rest of us weren't also so completely screwed by these filthy scum.
Multiple copies of a comment do *not* multiply the weight of a position. They're thrown out because they're irrelevant. The rule making process must respond to the substance of the comments, not the volume of comments. A single "fuck Pai" comment is as meaningless as the next 20,000 such comments to the rulemaking process. A substantial comment, showing harm of the rulemaking, is meaningful. I suggest you actually learn about the rulemaking process instead of repeating the shit you've been told to believe.
You just provided the New York Post which is a shit rag tabloid and a rightwing blog. Great citations. Have any others? Ones with actual facts not hyperbole and bullshit?
You just provided the New York Post which is a shit rag tabloid and a rightwing blog. Great citations. Have any others? Ones with actual facts not hyperbole and bullshit?
If(facts=="challenge worldview") {Deflect(); Name_Call();}
"Tried and true laws" put data in title I, and voice in title II. You lying fucks really want to believe that your injection of CALEA into the internet was for "network neutrality" but it was blatantly obvious to the casual observer that the neutrality part was trivial to bypass.
You don't decide what NN proponents have thought through, you thoughtless lying faggot.
They meant enough that the FCC used the number of respondents to make their assertion that the revocation of the rules were needed. If you are NOW saying that they were meaningless, then the original reason for removing NN was null and should not have been taken.
That you do not want that shows how venal and corrupt you are.
And they hate it for two reasons: a negro made the law and there's big money against it. Apart from republicans, NN is not a partisan issue.
No. It doesn't matter who you vote for, sleep with, educated in or your job. Your voice goes the same as everyone else's. NN stops the ISP saying if your packets aren't from the ISP's media parent company you are slowed down (your job), then you aren't equal. If your packets are not approved protocols (your sleeping partner), you aren't equal, if your packets are for a competing product (your job) you are not equal and if your packets contain information the ISP doesn't like (your education), then you are not equal.
And that is a power the executive branch has.
You moron.
You ignorant shilling fuckwit.
Or her emails, or the Starr fishing expedition. Now YOUR dear leaders are on the line,suddenly it's all "FISHING????".
Your whataboutery to deflect from your glorious leaders' and his handlers' crimes do not work on anyone with to IQs to rub together.
What about THIS fraud, hmm? Why is it that when YOUR side is caught in fraud, it's suddenly back to fishing for SOME evidence, even faked, of fraud for the other party?
Because you're a retard. You think that works.
One is a legal term that is being ignored for the other which is a political term.
Duh! A group will send you an email asking you to write to the FCC and they give you some boilerplate example of what to say and people cut and paste that into their message. That doesn't make it fraud.
J