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iPhone's New Parental Controls Block Sex Ed, Allow Violence and Racism (vice.com)
samleecole shares a report from Motherboard: The parental controls in the iPhone's new iOS 12 are blocking innocuous sexual education content on Safari, while allowing websites like the white supremacist Daily Stormer and searches for bomb-making instructions through its filter. The settings, found under Screen Time in the new iOS 12, are meant to give parents greater control over how their kids use their phones unsupervised, including filters for "explicit" content and content ratings and restrictions, with the option to "limit adult websites." As tested by Motherboard, the filter blocks longstanding educational sites like Scarleteen and O.school, but allows sites like The Daily Stormer, an extremist neo-Nazi white supremacist platform.
The filter in question "limits adult websites" on Safari. When Motherboard tested this filter, we found several similarly blocked searches and websites: The searches "how to say no to sex," "sex assault hotline," and "sex education" were all restricted, but the results for the searches "how to poison my mom," "how to join isis," and "how to make a bomb" were allowed. 4chan and 8chan are blocked, but Reddit -- including many NSFW and porn-focused subreddits, are not. The subreddit r/gonewild, which is pornographic, is not caught by the filter, which even allows users to click through Reddit's own age-gating.
The filter in question "limits adult websites" on Safari. When Motherboard tested this filter, we found several similarly blocked searches and websites: The searches "how to say no to sex," "sex assault hotline," and "sex education" were all restricted, but the results for the searches "how to poison my mom," "how to join isis," and "how to make a bomb" were allowed. 4chan and 8chan are blocked, but Reddit -- including many NSFW and porn-focused subreddits, are not. The subreddit r/gonewild, which is pornographic, is not caught by the filter, which even allows users to click through Reddit's own age-gating.
Celebrating the new iPhone.
Nothing objectionable there? Really?
Parents are parents
Apple isnt your parent. The internet isn't your parent. The state isn't your parent.
If you give a child an Internet device, that's on you
This has always puzzled me. Violence and murder, on film or in TV programming, is generally allowed, with a "PG" or "R" rating or equivalent. Sex is rated "X" or "XXX" depending on the explicitness. And yet, in real life, most people (outside Chicago, at least) will probably never witness a murder or experience a shooting.
But most people WILL see and touch and have sex with other naked people, hopefully many thousands of times. Seems to me that we should celebrate depictions of sex,and discourage depictions of murder.
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Orange man racist, iPhone racist, racism rampant. White people bad.
You can show decapitations during prime time, but one flash of a nipple and the FCC will fine you $325,000.
No.
The 1st ammendment allows slashdot to delete or block that crap, not the government.
Just flag the post and move on.
you're doing the parenting thing wrong.
Steve Jobs himself wouldn't let his own kids anywhere near an iPhone or an iPad.
That's because it looks at content. Sex ed is generally not distinguishable from porn without understanding the text, violence is visual, not something a text parser can find, and racist content requires understanding the text unless they use racial epithets.
This is funny because I remember the days when people were against making blocklists of websites and now they're complaining they can't get them!
You have to go looking for sex. Racism and violence come to you.
Believe it or not, Racism won't inpregnate my daughter.
USians are much more prudish about sex vs violence (that's fine), and it's reflected in their creations like iOS.
Tell us more about these pornographic groups on reddit. Like, what kind of groups are there? Can we get a list?
I really don't understand this kind of thing. It's just fine to see the most horrific violence imaginable, but you can't see someone's penis or breasts. What the hell?
Is it just me, or would the more ideal world be where this is completely reversed?
growing up to be a violent neo-nazi. They _do_ worry about them getting knocked up or knocking somebody up. Plus if you're religious birth control often isn't an option. So when your only tools a hammer...
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What do you have against Oompa Loompas? You want Willie Wonka to send them back and get eaten by Vermicious Knids?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Look who is talking. Your side has more loons. The religious nuts that believe condoms are manufactured by the devil to turn their daughters into prostitutes are ALL right wing geniuses.
What do you expect from a company that constantly flubs the switch to and from standard time?
Simple things like this are the reason I don't fear AI taking over any time soon. After 25+ years of trying, internet filters still don't work. After 20 years of trying, predictive text is no better than it was in 1999.
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FTFY, how about just state the facts instead of sensationalizing everything. Honestly anyone that knows anything about how the internet works should only be surprised when filtering actually works as intended.
what about the breast cancer test?
Last time I checked the "left loonies" are the ones that have less problems with their kids knowing how their body works than their kids being subjected to hate and violence.
So... I guess you're barking up the wrong tree here.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Parent of almost 2 year old twin toddlers here.
Currently they don’t play with ipad etc, they are too young, better to play with physical things and explore at home or in the playground or in nature.
Together as a family, since a month we watch on youtube streamed to tv for 15 minutes max daily, animated songs like The Wheels on The bus. They love that, and we sing (badly in my case) with them. Otherwise tv is off all day.
But how to address things when they get older? I am not adverse to parental controls - there is a time for everything. Indeed porn seems to have slipped from the erotical to rather extreme stuff. I wouldn’t want my kids at say 8 years old, when they search for “pussy”, to see a hand stuck up a vagina. For example.
The world can be a violent place, I don’t want them to be too sheltered but again there is a time for everything, and nobody at any age needs to stumble upon a decapitation video.
We plan to lovingly guide our kids through the discovery of the online world, and warn them about dangers, and i find that parental controls once the bugs are substantially ironed out, can help. You can’t always be present, and it is healthy that kids explore on their own, but they Shoukd not be scarred at a young age.
Blacklists and keyword filters (what Apple is trying to do) *never* work like you think they will. The WWW is far, far, far too big and complicated for any such grandiose scheme to ever hope to tame. Even a site like Wikipedia is far too diverse, frank, and complex (I have seen plenty of shocking things there not suitable for children).
The only thing that works is a whitelist- allowing one to visit ONLY the specifically sites in an approved list. Of course, this is extremely restrictive and often not practical. Personally, I would not allow young children unsupervised access to non-whitelisted web, ever. As they get older, I would continuously expand the whitelist until eventually flipping over to a blacklist.
This is America! This is a proud American company! It's 2018 and we learned how to block the word ( *whispers* s-e-x ) from tech devices! Yeah but we left racism, terrorism, guns, bombs and all that stuff that makes America great just right there for you to find, you're welcome!
We know the bad side of ( *whispers* s-e-x ) can kill people, ruin lives and generally make like miserable so we've taken on the role of Mother Superior and stopped you learning anything about it to save you from yourselves. You dirty, disgusting, vile people with your filthy depraved habits, fiddling with your dirty body parts in your filthy homes! You disgust us! Get outside, get some fresh air and get a gun and shoot something, you'll get a far better rush from blowing something apart than fiddling with yourself, or worse fiddling with other's, in your filthy hovels! Dirty, dirty people!
Here in the U.S., sex is taboo, and heaven forbid we try to teach it to our children. Violence and racism? Those are prime time material, and OK to show to anyone of any age.
--- Keep the choice with the user..
So my mom wants sex with me and I google: "how to say no to sex" ... with no result.
Obviously my next search is: "how to poison my mom"!!
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Perfect for puritan values
Because of the walled garden, and more rarley due to the way rating are done on film software, in a way the US culture kinda enforce its standard on the rest of the world. Which leads to the groaning you can see.
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I've seen ever stupid explanation for this on here so far, but the reality is this:
Content filtering is difficult.
No, Apple isn't OK with the Daily Stormer, and no, they aren't trying to block sex ed pages. It's just that filtering shit is extremely difficult.
Don't believe me? Then why does spam still work?
Aww... the evil "white supremacists". I think you must be referring to all the NON-whites who keep flooding into white countries every year. Why are they moving away from their OWN countries and their OWN races to live around white people, unless they think white countries and white people are BETTER than their own countries and their own people? Are they masochists? No, they are the real 'white supremacists'.
Soon there won't be enough white people to go around, then what will you do?
I didn't read the huge spiel, but it sounds like it was written by someone who needs to be in the sheltered workshop at day, and kept in the home for severly mentally impaired adults at night.
And if you really want to chuck the first amendment into the trash, feel free to go fuck yourself, and then spend the day playing in the middle of the freeway.
Perfectly congruent with a society blurring out mouths on TV when it says a "naughty" word and freaking out over half a nipple, while at the same time having the biggest porn industry in the world and seemingly having no big problems with violence in general...
Crivens! I kicked meself in me own heid!
As opposed too hacking of part of your dick or be sent to hell?
At least the person made the conscious decision without threat of eternal damnation, as weird or messed up as it might be to some
lol. Poe's Law in full effect right there ...
... not intended for littlke children.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
It is well known that the loonies on the left just love kid's bodies, either dead or alive.
Last time I checked the "left loonies" are the ones that have less problems with their kids knowing how their body works
Oh sure ... no confusion on the left about how bodies work at all ... BTW did you see who won that "women's" cycling race?
So not much has changed since those genocidal maniacs stepped off the Mayflower.
But most people WILL see and touch and have sex with other naked people, hopefully many thousands of times. Seems to me that we should celebrate depictions of sex,and discourage depictions of murder.
While I agree with you in principle, it's more complicated than that precisely for the frequency reasons you state. There are real consequences to sex (pregnancy, disease, etc) which most people are very likely to run into in some capacity, often before they are really sufficiently mature to deal with them appropriately. So some amount of caution clearly is warranted albeit probably not the ridiculous extremes we go to. It's obvious that a lot of people (including an alarming number of full grown adults) are incapable of behaving rationally when presented with sexually suggestive media much less the real thing. Given that they are going to run into situations in their life numerous times one has to be careful. It's similar reasoning to why we have separate men's and women's bathrooms. In principle it shouldn't matter but in practice it does. I agree we should celebrate depictions of affection but how we do so responsibly is sometimes quite challenging.
On the other hand very few people are likely to actually even witness much less be a part of an actual shooting or war so there is a degree of the abstract in putting those activities on screen. Not to mention that movie violence looks pretty much nothing like the real thing. You could watch the Avengers all day long because the consequences of the "violence" are so nerfed they make it into little more than a dance recital. Violence is and should be FAR more horrifying to see on TV but in real life it is generally somewhat less of a problem for most of the population.
There isn’t actually any such rating as X or XXX, those are porn marketing terms only. The closest actual rating is NC-17.
NC-17 is a relatively recent thing. There did used to be a X rating (never XXX though) but it got co-opted by the porn industry to such a degree that they had to change it to something less... promotional. I forget when NC-17 became official but it was within the last 20-30 years.
What does any of this have to do with knowing how to fuck?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You must be new here. GNAA is a slashdot troll
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Understanding basic biological sex and procreation is absolutely necessary to being able to fuck properly. In fact, the very definition of abuse is fucking improperly- in such a way that fails to protect the mental health of the individuals involved such that successful procreation of new adults is possible.
In fact, only heterosexual monogamous marriage fits "fucking properly"- with all other forms being improper.
INCLUDING lying about your biological sex because your brain has been destroyed by drugs.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Understanding basic biological sex and procreation is absolutely necessary to being able to fuck properly. In fact, the very definition of abuse is fucking improperly- in such a way that fails to protect the mental health of the individuals involved such that successful procreation of new adults is possible.
In fact, only heterosexual monogamous marriage fits "fucking properly"- with all other forms being improper.
INCLUDING lying about your biological sex because your brain has been destroyed by drugs.
LOL, the fuck is this?
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Orange man racist, iPhone racist, racism rampant. White people bad.
What's the matter? Is your dominant social position being threatened? Don't think you can compete on a level playing field?
That sound in line with USA mentality
Sounds like the adult content filter it's working as intended..
How exactly are "how to poison my mom," "how to join isis," and "how to make a bomb" adult sites?
It's news for nerds, you know.... stuff that matters.
The headline is a total non-sequester. Apple's filters also do not allow parental control over bogus political claims, faulty economic data, poorly conducted electronics performance tests, shoddy weather predictions, bad reporting, failures of taste.....
I have no idea how the iOS 12 parental controls are implemented (my youngest is 14 and moving out of the age where I'm all that concerned about his web browsing - which mainly seems to consist of schoolwork and Twitch streams of Plants vs Zombies), but it really should be implemented in terms of frameworks.
It's fine if Apple implements a "default" implementation of that framework but in the end they shouldn't want to be in the business of deciding what's appropriate or inappropriate. Rather, create a store where parents can subscribe to various filter feeds (similar to Adblock/uBlock) and let them choose what's appropriate. Some parents are going to be OK with sex ed and horrified by gun instruction and vice versa - no need to jump into that cultural minefield.
Why any company would want to be seen as a gatekeeper in beyond me. There are plenty of organizations and groups that are happy to fill that niche - and by giving users choice, you remove yourself from the culture wars. Unless, of course, that's your goal - but that seems like a bad business decision.
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I am literally shaking that bad orange man won't pass legislation making education about ALL kinds of sexual activity mandatory. Who do these"parents" think they are?!? They need to CHECK THEIR PRIVILEGE!!!
Parental controls for internet access are imperfect, prone to false positives. Surprise? No. That has been the case for like 20 years. Should we then abandon trying to protect kids from shitty content like porn? No, of course not.
Should clickbait trash outfits like Vice fuck right off? ...
but seriously, rare situations should be ignored. The number of children intentionally poisoning anybody is below a rounding error.
The annoying part of American Puritan hypocrisy is that any censoring is pointless in the USA because both sex and violence are heavily promoted in the culture in the most influential ways possible WITHOUT being explicit! The damage is largely being done while ignorantly being "clean" and "safe" because they fail to realize being explicit is just being literal minded. Beeping a swearword out when everybody fills in the blank does nothing; if anything it amplifies the impact. Soft porn is PG and on broadcast TV and has more impact on kids. The culture is engineered to give into temptation because good consumers are impulsive; that alone promotes more sex and violence directly.
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What exactly did this person say that isn't 100% factual (or at least subject to factual debate)? In what way is it a troll? Is everything that offends you, no matter how true, a "Troll"? You're the enemy of truth if so and a child.
the left loonies are just the same as the right loonies - bigoted idiots, a plague on both their houses
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
lol, some people.
except: choke, rape, and strangle would fall under the violence part of that prior comment.
Not big on reading comprehension eh?
You learned how from your phone?
Prodding your feces with a dick is not "how to fuck", you shit-fucking faggot.
Learned how *with* his phone.
Probably still lodged up his faggot ass.
I'm waiting for the part where you explain the importance of the women's cycling race winner.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It isn't anywhere near as important as the demographic fact that the sexual revolution has caused dangerously low population growth in the first world, and even worse, has caused huge amounts of ignorance and superstition to overwrite wisdom among anybody younger than 90. The chaos caused by that makes the woman's cycling race being won by a man who was pretending to be a woman just a blip in the ether.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Thanks to constant Apple's constant inability to work out all of the timezone problems, the iPhone may or may not be ahead of its timezone:
https://appletoolbox.com/2018/...
Coward. You can't debate the issue, so you claim there is nothing to debate.
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