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Is Repair As Important As Innovation? (economist.com)

An anonymous reader shares an excerpt from The Economist: Events about making new things are ten a penny. Less common are events about keeping things as good as new. Maintenance lacks the glamour of innovation. It is mostly noticed in its absence -- the tear in a shirt, the mould on a ceiling, the spluttering of an engine. Not long ago David Edgerton of Imperial College London, who also spoke at the festival, drove across the bridge in Genoa that collapsed in August, killing 43 people (pictured). 'We're encouraged to pride ourselves on all being innovators and entrepreneurs,' he said. Maintenance is often dismissed as mere drudgery. But in fact, as he pointed out, repairing things is often trickier than making them.

It is also more difficult for economists to measure. The discipline's most prominent statistic, GDP, is gross (as opposed to net) because it leaves out the cost of wear and tear. To calculate these costs, statisticians must estimate the lifespan of a country's assets and make assumptions about the way they deteriorate. [...] And how much do economies spend fighting decay? No one knows, partly because most maintenance is performed in-house, not purchased on the market. The best numbers are collected by Canada, where firms spent 3.3% of GDP on repairs in 2016, more than twice as much as the country spends on research and development.
In closing, the report mentions the tyrannies of the ancient East where people were forced to maintain fragile irrigation systems. "In those societies, to repair was to repress," the report says. "But some people today have the opposite concern. They see maintenance and repair as a right they are in danger of losing to companies that hoard spare parts and information too jealously."

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  1. According to Asimov... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Asimov's Empire books, when a society no longer recalls how to repair something, it is a sign of societal collapse.

    1. Re:According to Asimov... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not being able to repair something makes your society totally dependent on whoever delivers the crap you use. It's almost as bad as not being able to grow your own food anymore. It makes your society as a whole very susceptible to any kind of disturbance in trade, and it makes you susceptible to blackmail: Either you let us do $shady_business_practice or you get to explain to your people why they can't have $our_junk anymore.

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  2. Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by postbigbang · · Score: 2

    I say no. Business analysts want clean revenue cycles. They like planned obsolescence. Or they build only a few spares, moving on, because the design said that only a fraction of people would complain that there are no spares/replacement parts/people trained to fix them.

    This behavior, however, is praised by the corporate hegemony. They like clean numbers, campaigns, so they can shift quickly in a highly competitive world. The consumers get the shaft, and not very much justice from bad equipment. Quality counts, but so does the supply chain for post-sale equipment support. The general public isn't taught to look for post-sale support, only to buy the shiny new object with easy third party financing.

    Most every laptop I buy these days croaks early. Looking at you, Apple, Lenovo, Asus. Disposable electronics is a bad concept. And that's what happens when you can't fix it or get it fixed (or for a reasonable cost).

    To my fellow engineers that design short lifecycle drek: you're evil.

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    1. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not the engineers. Blame the business-school types who manage them, who went through the US b-school system and learned how to be better sociopaths.

      As far as laptops, business-grade Dells and Lenovos (7000 series and X series) work fine, are repairable, and last long. Yeah, Apple is junk.

    2. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by nnull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have industrial machines. If manufacturers designed equipment where I could no longer repair them by myself, I'm not going to purchase their machine. I'm quite capable of designing and building my own if I have too.

      And believe me, I've already met some manufacturers attempting to do so under the guise of "Litigation", "Liability", "Proprietary". They lock down their devices, do not want to give me electrical or control schematics and insist this is the way the industry always was (By the way, access is required under all our standards in both Europe and the US for industrial machines, including schematics, so go F*** yourselves). Imagine the whole debacle with locked down phones being placed on multi-million dollar machines where you're required to somehow dispose of it after 2-3 years (Or of course they'll buy it off of you for pennies and resell it for another million). A lot of equipment is designed with standard replaceable parts, the moment they try to veer from that path, I'm no longer interested.

    3. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by postbigbang · · Score: 2

      The cost of disposal/devolution/recycling ought to be in the price of everything. The landfills are filled with junk, some benign, most of it not. No one wants to take out the trash, deal with it, or allow discussion of it.

      When I take long walks in the forests, what do I find? Plastic grocery bags, brought by the breeze. I take a kayak out onto a lake far away from humanity, and there are pop bottles from decades ago... and more plastic. Tires litter the backroads along with landscaping brush.

      I work in electronics and computing. It's equally disturbing in this perspective.

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    4. Re: Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try replacing the (glued in) battery in that 3 year old Apple laptop. Apple design has gone way downhill since 2013 or so -- they've sacrificed good engineering on the altar of style.

    5. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Informative

      Business-line stuff tends to be dirt-cheap once it goes off lease and is sold on EBay or as a refurb unit. Just buy it used in good shape and you'll come out ahead of consumer-grade junk.

    6. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by postbigbang · · Score: 2

      Amen.

      But you're not using the current consumer trope of being interested in something shiny and new, and of course, socially acceptable. That mentality varies from an engineer's mindset.

      Instilling a mentality requires showing the money wasted (res-pent) and is obfuscated until it becomes a disposal/recycling problem. I think GM started it all when they introduced model years. Somehow, older is never as good as new/newer/new new new.

      Yes, entropy is a law, but cutting the scope of repair, supply chain stock of spares, all of these are designed to serve short term profitability and fealty to Wall Street, not the health of nature or the long term economy.

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    7. Re: Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by voicofsf · · Score: 2

      I'm not convinced that style, in and of itself, needs the engineering changes that Apple's made since ca late 2012, which is my Mac mini. Perhaps it's the verticality that they're trying to protect / enhance. Less that gets outside of Apple's control, more the dependance on the Company. No matter how we feel about Apple the company, they've done a brilliant job marketing their products and making money. They have been so successful that they've engendered a lot of hostility from those who have not been able to do the same. Apple's business model doesn't have to impact us at all, if we choose. It's the businesses that I can't avoid, such as Lockheed Martin or Boeing, through my taxes, that are of more concern. $85-90 million per F 35. Defense budgets hyper-inflated by cost overruns, serious design concerns, slow and incremental design changes in the commercial market to protect profits and extend the life of their catalog. (https://reut.rs/2Ey8CLI)

      I did transition to Apple a long time ago and have never regretted that decision. But I have the same concerns about repairability and have stayed with my late 2012 Mac mini, upgraded. When I finally move on, it will be elsewhere for a desktop. Tablets are another story and I don't buy a tablet based solely upon repair concerns. In 10 years I've never had a hardware failure caused by the Apple product or design. As others have often said, it simply works. So at the end of the day, you either choose to enter their garden or you don't.

    8. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by pz · · Score: 2

      I'm in a similar boat: when a manufacturer charges too much for a replacement bit for their equipment that was incredibly expensive to begin with, I tell them, as an example, "too bad, you lost the sale by asking for $200 for a spare battery because I'll have my staff make one up from $10 in bits in about 1/2 an hour; had you priced it at a reasonable amount, you'd neither have lost this sale, nor have lost the goodwill of my laboratory; since I work for a Big Name University, people copy my techniques, and your equipment will no longer get my recommendation." And I follow through with the threat. If the company has a booth at the annual conference in my field (which is frelling huge), I go to the staff and complain. When they see Big Name University on my badge, they usually listen. As a result, in one case at least, they have reversed themselves and provided me with the service or pricing they should have in the first place.

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    9. Re:Is it clever to design the unrepairable? by burtosis · · Score: 2

      All engineers are capable of efficiency, minimalism, and optimizing cost to performance, those are core competencies of engineering. However if you want a good engineer to pump out a piece of crap product that has brand lock in, planned obsolescence, and just plain terrible quality to price, you need management.

  3. Why the premise that they are mutually exclusive? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks to me like a false choice.

  4. Re:Doesn't affect me by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a step further, I eliminated the need of throwing the junk away by not buying it.

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  5. Re:Politics by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If anything, it would be in the best interest of politics to enforce that things have to be repairable. If politicians put their money where their mouth is, making things repairable IS where "taking jobs home to the US" is.

    That would take care of all the thinks currently done. First, repairing locally is cheaper than sending stuff halfway around the globe. Repair shops would pop up quickly where people with the skill to repair sell that skill to those that need it. It's also one of the best kinds of industries you can possibly have, because you're selling raw work force with a minimum of investment. This would be American as all hell, something where someone who has little money but lots of skill and talent can start a business. And it would instantly also take care of the postal bickering with China, because that is only a problem because sending stuff from China to the US is cheap and nothing moves the other way. China would either have to accept that fewer things get shipped over here, because the stuff isn't thrown away but repaired, or they have to accept that they, too, have to uphold their part of the deal and deliver the returns for free, too. Which they won't.

    So if our politicians really were about getting jobs back, they wouldn't try to bribe large corporations into building plants here. All they really had to do is to force them to make their shit repairable. But, of course, where's the kickback in that?

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  6. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    It's a lot of assumptions, too. If it's cheaper to make something that lasts 10 years and then gets replaced, then do that.

    Think of it this way: humans build machines, produce electricity and energy storage, mine and recycle materials, refine things, build components, assemble products, and ship and retail them. That's a lot of human labor, and it's reflected in the price of products--yeah, it's not that the mining equipment is expensive, but that the labor to create it, maintain it, and fuel it is expensive.

    Your $20 toaster comes down to a grand total of $20 of human labor. At Chinese $3/hr rates, that's around 7 hours. Troubleshooting the electrical circuit when it fails can be costly: maybe it's some internal module which is 80% of the toaster anyway, and your repair tech spends an hour swapping it out, and it costs you $30 to repair. For that matter, maybe it's just a blown MOSFET, and your repair tech spends an hour disassembling the device, and another 3 hours troubleshooting it, and then 10 minutes replacing the MOSFET itself. You might be ahead on labor, but the labor-hours are priced high.

    Assembling a computer motherboard doesn't take much in terms of labor-hours. Once you've set up the assembly line, it's fairly rapid. The motherboard is extremely-complex and takes potentially days to troubleshoot, meaning there's more human labor in repairing it than in replacing it.

    At a point, you've reached the break-over: it's a waste of time to repair this. Maybe you're poor and you can spend 4 hours repairing your $20 iron, at $10/hr, when you could work 4 hours for $15/hr--if only you had work. It's still a waste of time; you're just poor.

    At that point, the economics of reuse have passed. You've got electronics waste, and you should send it for recycling. We readily smelt chips for silicon and gold. Copper, plastic, and aluminum are valuable.

    You're going to spend $2,400 on high-quality oil changes for your engine, and another $100 on spark plugs, every 100,000 miles. You might spend $800 for an engine rebuild around 200k-300k. If you don't maintain that engine, you're spending $6,000 for a remanufactured engine swap somewhere around the 80,000-100,000 mark, if not closer to the 50,000 mark. Which is cheaper?

  7. That depends... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On a lot of things. One of those things is a side-effect of the rate of change of computer systems.

    Sure, my Tandy 2000 from 30 (or so) years back should be repairable. But that would require that the maker continue making parts for 30 or so years. Which would make sense if nothing much had changed in 30 or so years.

    Alas, a smartphone today has more computing power than my Tandy 2000 did. Making parts for the Tandy 2000 today makes about as much sense as making parts for a stagecoach does.

    As is, for the most part, spare parts are made as long as it's profitable to do so. And no, the fact that seventeen people in Maryland want to be able to repair their Tandy 2000's doesn't mean that it's worth the bother of maintaining archaic machine tools, training operators for same, and distributing parts to stores for display on strictly limited shelf-space....

    Of course, there are other considerations sometimes. For instance, pollution control laws exist. Allowing the owner of a vehicle to bypass the pollution controls on his vehicle (or just to muck them up by accident) is generally considered a bad thing.

    And on and on.

    Short form: yes, you should be able to repair your stuff. Except when you shouldn't....

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    1. Re:That depends... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Informative

      But those Tandy 2000's aren't glued shut. The owners can try to find other Tandy 2000's to scavenge working parts from them to repair their own Tandy 2000.

      The right to repair should be separate from the right to be able to buy parts for the repair. That would at least mean smartphones with easy to replace batteries, displays, PCBs, casings, buttons, etc.

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    2. Re:That depends... by Moof123 · · Score: 2

      The point being made is that while philosophically it is great that something is repairable, it seems unjustified. Only a handful of gray beards even want a Tandy 2000, and zero of them actually use it for "real work".

      Let's take an original iPhone for a second, how many people today would be daily users on an iPhone 1 today if Apple put a bin of them out front in original condition for free, contingent on actual daily usage? By current standards the network speed is awful, then screen is crude and small, and it is horrendously thick. The number of takers would be vanishingly small. So right now the extra valuable of them being repairable is arguably ZERO.

      Until the innovation slows down so that the mean time to obsolescence is not dwarfed by mean time to failure, arguing for repairability will continue to be a noble, yet foolish endeavor.

  8. At this point, repair IS innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Innovation" is not making new things--that would be "invention". Innovation is bringing things to market that weren't available before.

    Innovation can be as simple as offering the same car, but with financing that wasn't available before. Simple change, "innovation". (Peter Drucker, the late management writer, gives this exact example involving cars. Make of that what you will.)

    Repair hasn't been a credible option in a long time for a lot of things. Make repair affordably available, and you're innovating.

  9. Freakonomics by brianerst · · Score: 2

    This was discussed on the Freakonomics podcast several years ago - In Praise of Maintenance. He had been doing a series on innovation and then did a counterpoint on how maybe maintenance was as much if not more important than innovation. It's a good podcast and goes into more detail than the short Economist piece.

  10. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All this is nice and correct, except it only take labor costs into account. Mining raw materials and throwing waste are not zero-cost. They cause a big impact, but economists, specially those promoting free market, prefer to ignore it.

  11. One word: modularity. by Immerman · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's an easy solution to all those problems - modularity. You can streamline the process even further by spending a few extra cents per unit installing well-considered diagnostic elements so that it's easy to determine what's wrong.

    Dead toaster? Test the coils. Test the cord. Test the switch. If one of them has a problem, replace it. If none does, replace the electronics board (which is not "the toaster" - in fact it's probably one of the cheaper components in it). Total diagnostic time - 5min. Total repair time, 10min. After all, all you need to do is remove a few screws, unplug the faulty module, and install a new one.

    If a device takes hours to diagnose, and more hours to repair, it's because it wasn't designed for easy diagnostics and repair. That's a failure of design, not an argument against the value of repair.

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    1. Re:One word: modularity. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      So, here's the thing. You ever wonder what it costs to make a sound card? Let's go with OPL-3. You're going to need a $0.86 YMF-262 and a $1.03 YMF-512 DAC.

      Well, hold on. You also need a temperature-stable clock source, so you need a crystal oscillator. You need to set the clock, so you need an RC circuit. You need to couple the clocks between the two chips, which requires more than just a wire. Your ground needs a noise filter, basically just a polypropylene pf capacitor.

      In the end, just to make the YMF-262 and YMF-512 connect to each other and actually function, you need an extra $18 of components. After that, you need your interface into it from the CPU.

      That "few cents per unit" is going to be a third of the cost of the toaster. Even a circuit to handle batteries costs $5-$15, depending on if you were doing two batteries without balancing or four batteries with two-bank balancing; a diagnostics system is expensive.

      As for testing and replacing things in a toaster, have you tried disassembling and reassembling one? It's not overly-complex; it's also not a magical handwave.

  12. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by Immerman · · Score: 2

    Where are you seeing exclusivity? I see "is A as important as B? Because right now B gets all the attention"

    That's the diametric opposite of a mutually exclusive statement.

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  13. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    There is another aspect out there though, and that is at what point do we decide that it is time for the technology to stop?

    When do we become technological Amish?

    I think we're already headed that way. Most people change their computers a lot less than in the early days of home computing. Even tablets sales have been slowing down and people don't feel the need to buy a new one. The closer we get to "peak computing capacity per watt", the more the need to upgrade goes down.

    My main computer is a Mac mini released in 2010. I "repaired" it three times by upgrading the RAM, swapping the HDD by a low-end SSD and replacing the fan.

    Two decades ago, the top new games required a PC no more than one or two years old to run properly.

    Today, people are playing the latest games on PCs they built five years ago or more. If you lower the quality settings, you can run games with PCs built a decade ago.

    Most PCs can be upgraded which is a similar to being able to repair it. Need more RAM? Add RAM. No room for more RAM? Remove old RAM and add new higher capacity RAM. New game requires a better GPU? Remove the old one and install a new one. That's a kind of repair, removing old "non-working" parts to install a brand new ones.

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  14. Re:Politics by zmooc · · Score: 2

    (...) it would be in the best interest of politics to enforce that things have to be repairable (...)

    With rules like that, it would have been quite difficult to introduce the IC. How do you repair an IC?! The primary reason these days that things are becoming increasingly difficult to repair, is further integration and minimization. While in some very specific cases (I'm thinking about batteries or exposed/vulnerable parts like cameras and screens), it may make sense to be able to repair things, in general it does not make sense; repairability makes things more expensive to make, it makes parts larger and therefore it requires more materials and thus is bad for the environment.

    If we're going to enforce anything, let's do it specifically for things that make sense. But enforcing that "things" have to be "repairable" would not be in anybody's advantage.

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  15. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    There is another aspect out there though, and that is at what point do we decide that it is time for the technology to stop?

    Hey look, I'm rich; I can spend $50,000 on a brand new car, and in 5 years I'll buy another one.

    You lot don't get that luxury. You can buy my nice, shiny Audi S5 for $12,000 when it's 10 years old and have a nice car with 70,000 miles on it. That's efficient. Your econoshitbox of today isn't on-par with a nice Audi luxury car from last decade.

  16. Re:Politics by orlanz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think a repair economy would work. How much of a $50 item would you pay to repair it? How much would you charge to repair stuff? Would that be enough to live off of and also provide value back to the repaired item? Even if you were to assume the part acquisition cost was close to the original raw part cost and ignored all the inventory holding costs in the supply chain, just labor wise, it would still be expensive.

    Each part would have its own supply chain linkup (of course most would be shared with the whole product). So there would be multiple supply chain links for the same product; which lowers predictability. The labor units in all those links also have a cost. The defect rate within those links would actually increase the cumulative defect rate & cost of the repaired product. Then there is a forecasting of the demands of various parts. In today's tech, you would actually end up with more waste. But lets assume we have the Walmart logistics system of 2050 and those are all automated and highly reliable and forecasting of parts requirements is better or equal to just the product.

    An economy that has high labor cost like US, doesn't mean people just cost more. It also means that people must produce more too. Either through automation, or specialized skills (ie: a forklift driver costs more than 50 people in around country, but produces more results). Repair positions need to bring in enough revenue to sustain the "average lifestyle" of that community. Unless we have double digit unemployment where that average is low enough; a repair position just won't be worth it.

    Example: for a $25000 car, you don't need to do your own oil change. There is a sustainable industry for that, and it wouldn't exist if that is all they did. It is actually subsidized by all the other services that shop provides. But for your $250 lawn mower, there is no industry to replace the oil. Even for the expensive car, there is no workforce to pump fuel. Because the revenue for those services will be less than the societal necessitated labor cost.

    I am not saying a repair system won't work or we shouldn't encourage it. We all change our own vacuum bags, residential air filters, usb cables, AA batteries, etc. So if the product was built to be easily repaired many would use their own "free labor" to do so. I just don't think it would sustain a segment of commerce and solve the labor problems in our society. Or the labor problem will go away, but societal advancement would take a hit.

    BTW, there are LARGE parts of our economy that are repair based. Big equipment like AC Units, farm/mining/construction/industrial machines, hospital systems, airplanes, ships, cars, etc. But these are all big ticket items and we are talking about more commodity level stuff here... like your laptop, cell phone, water bottles, microwaves, furniture, toaster, milk/juice/egg cartons, etc. And these are actually repaired and/or reused in more developing economies.

  17. Re:Why the premise that they are mutually exclusiv by orlanz · · Score: 2

    My main computer is a Mac mini released in 2010. I "repaired" it three times by upgrading the RAM, swapping the HDD by a low-end SSD and replacing the fan.

    You lucky bastard! I can't do that on my new Mac :*(

  18. Tragedy of the commons by thePsychologist · · Score: 2

    The lack of the ability to repair is a tragedy of the commons. People are willing to pay more for a sealed phone at the expense of the environment when they throw it away. The commons is the environment that nobody owns but everyone benefits from. This is exactly the sort of thing that regulation is for.

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  19. Re:Politics by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

    First, repairing locally is cheaper than sending stuff halfway around the globe. Repair shops would pop up quickly where people with the skill to repair sell that skill to those that need it.

    Depends entirely on what's being repaired. Let's imagine I want to open a repair shop in San Francisco. To pay the shop's rent, taxes, utilities, a salary for myself and everything else I discover I need to charge $150 / hour + parts.

    So someone brings in a TV for repair with a power supply problem, and you tell them the cost for the repair (labor and parts) will be $200. Most people will just say "never mind, I'll just go buy a new TV.:"

    Why were there TV repair men in 1968? Because a 23" color TV cost $2500 in today's dollars. Back then it was cheaper to repair it.

    http://www.tvhistory.tv/1968-A...