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China's OnePlus, Backed by Qualcomm and T-Mobile, Launches OnePlus 6T Smartphone in US (reuters.com)

OnePlus, a five-year old Chinese smartphone company whose high-end products are little known outside a tech-savvy niche is entering the U.S. market on Monday with the backing of two key local allies: chipmaking giant Qualcomm and mobile operator T-Mobile. Reuters reports: The foray by Shenzhen-based OnePlus comes after U.S. mobile carriers AT&T and Verizon this year backed away from plans to work with China's Huawei on high-end phones in face of pressure from the U.S. government, which considers Huawei a security risk. But the OnePlus alliance, to be announced today in New York, shows how many U.S.-China business relationships, including those involving the most advanced technologies, are marching ahead despite the U.S. China trade war. OnePlus has quietly become the No. 3 client for Qualcomm's most expensive mobile phone chips, behind Samsung and LG Electronics, according to data from market researcher Canalys.

The phone to be unveiled Monday, called the 6T, will sell for a price of $549 (for the base model, which offers 6GB of RAM and 128GB of internal storage) but packs features that are typically present only in pricier handsets. Xiaomi, a Chinese rival that also focuses on feature-packed phones at bargain prices, has said it plans to launch in the U.S. next year, but did not respond to a request for comment on whether those plans are still in place.
The OnePlus 6T will laregely offer the same specs as its predecessor -- the OnePlus 6, which was launched earlier this year. Some of the key changes include a smaller notch on the front display and a built-in fingerprint scanner that is embedded in it. Full specs and review here.

66 comments

  1. And it STILL phones home to Red China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    All the time it has been doing this oneplus says "will fix". NEVER HAS FIXED!

    1. Re:And it STILL phones home to Red China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop spreading FUD. It phones home to your carrier to check for patches and updates, like any other smart phone. If it's not tied to a carrier, it goes to OnePlus servers, where else would it go?

    2. Re:And it STILL phones home to Red China by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      Source?

    3. Re:And it STILL phones home to Red China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/01/27/0013220/oneplus-is-again-sending-user-data-to-a-chinese-company-without-user-consent

    4. Re:And it STILL phones home to Red China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://bgr.com/2018/01/26/oneplus-data-collection-clipboard-app/

  2. Sigh. by ledow · · Score: 4, Informative

    No headphone.
    No expandable storage.
    No removeable battery.

    But you can load it up with cameras and shite I don't want.

    No sale.

    1. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Likewise. No headphone jack, no sale.
      I don't understand why they think anyone would choose this phone over the shinier alternatives. The original OnePlus One had a reasonable spec at a great price. Their current offerings are mainstream phones at mainstream prices, there's nothing appealing or special about them.

    2. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2018 mate, no need for expandable storage with the cloud, no need for headphone jacks with BT earphones, and no removeable battery....thats a bummer but atleast theyre a good batteries

    3. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hilariously people still say "BT earphones" as if it's some kind of replacement for a headphone jack. If I want Kobe steak and you say "it's okay we'll go to McD's", you should expect to be laughed at.

    4. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 2018, don't you realize we're in 2018. 2018!
      These phones have high specs that can only be used on games pretty much. Perhaps the better power input even allows to not deplete your battery when playing games with the power cable plugged in!
      So.. we're supposed to play games with high latency head phones?

    5. Re:Sigh. by cre1mer · · Score: 0

      "BT earphones"

      I usually want lettuace with my bacon and tomato earphones.

    6. Re:Sigh. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0

      For most people BT earphones absolutely are a replacement for a wired headset. Just like the vast majority of people regularly stuff a McD burger into their face, and not a Kobe steak. If we want quality meat or sound, we just take our business elsewhere, but no one really cares. Least of all the manufacturers, there's just not enough of us to matter.

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    7. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      True enough, it's the same with everything. Quality is always killed by the lowest common denominators.

    8. Re:Sigh. by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      Never Settle.

    9. Re:Sigh. by dbitter1 · · Score: 2

      I have a 1+ 6. Unlockable bootloader, with NO drama. (And, hence, easily rootable). First phone with dual sim, nice for overseas travel. Great coverage of the LTE bands, pretty much everything other than Verizon, who hates customers anyway.

      The only other real candidate for a drama-less unlock is Google (Pixel)... and they don't have expandable storage or removable battery either. Came from a LG G6, with plenty of firmware bugs... never going back to them as they cherry pick what they will let you unlock. If I'm paying for the hardware, it better not be crippled.

      I'd rather have the Chinese listen to me [effortlessly] than the rest of the world.

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    10. Re: Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you are wrong here. I hope the 6t really bombs and they go back to head phone jack. Otherwise, I have to keep looking for replacement.

    11. Re:Sigh. by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      headphone/storage/battery complaints

      Easily remedied by digging through the impulse bins at Walmart. They sell Bluetooth adapters, portable battery packs, and OTG flash drives.

      What really pisses me off about most modern flagship smartphones is the ugly ass notches, rounded display corners (retro CRT-style bullshit), and an obsession with gargantuan screens which are impossible to use one-handed (because to hell with ergonomics). Even Apple has joined in on this design idiocy.

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    12. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > people will tolerate the downgrade
      We were already aware of the first half of that sentence.
      Some of us weren't aware of the second half.

    13. Re: Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take function over form any day. You don't complain about needing to buy and carry around a bunch of extra crap, but complain about the appearance of the screen? That explains a lot of decisions. It doesn't work well, but it's pretty, so buy it!

    14. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oneplus5T will be my alamo. Specs have good-enough plateaued for years now, and the 5T is a good hill to die on. Cards are better, but 128GB internal is enough for me to keep scorning streamers. 8GB RAM will help futureproof me against the global bloat we tolerate. I expect battery decay will be my first problem, I hate heating apart screens as much as the next guy, and it's only a 24h load to begin with (as we've been groomed to accept).

      Anyway, no headphone no deal. If there was ever a chance I'd hesitate, the notch nailed the coffin.

    15. Re: Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teenage girls from Central America.

    16. Re:Sigh. by Fuzi719 · · Score: 1

      What really pisses me off about most modern flagship smartphones is the ugly ass notches, rounded display corners (retro CRT-style bullshit), and an obsession with gargantuan screens which are impossible to use one-handed (because to hell with ergonomics). Even Apple has joined in on this design idiocy.

      I love my new Pixel 3 (not XL) for that very reason. A powerful phone that actually fits in my hand and pockets.

    17. Re:Sigh. by afidel · · Score: 1

      pretty much everything other than Verizon

      Recent XDA posts indicate that with the Android Pie update the OnePlus 6 now works with Verizon VoLTE services. You can't activate a SIM card on Verizon with it but if you move one from a different phone it works. Unfortunately the CDMA interface still rejects it because it's not on the whitelist, but those services are being shut down by 12/31/2019 so VoLTE working is a much bigger issue IMHO. If you want to try using it on Verizon probably the best way is to try a Tracphone brand. I'm on Total Wireless because of the $99/month for 4 lines plan but any would work. Buy a $15-20 LTE flip phone, provision the SIM there, and move it to your "unsupported" phone.

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    18. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No headphone.
      No expandable storage.
      No removeable battery.

      Larger than a Nomad.

      Lame.

    19. Re:Sigh. by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      No expandable storage.

      128 GB is pretty anemic for a phone storage, especially one with no expandable storage. That's a deal killer for me. I need storage for pics and videos. ALL of their competition offers 256 GB, and most of them have expandable storage, too. I notice they offer a 256 GB model for $80 (300% - 400% more than the same amount of storage on a fast Micro SD). Are they trying the Apple business model? Not a good idea when entering a new market.

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    20. Re: Sigh. by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      I'll take function over form any day.

      I hate responding to A.C.s, but this warrants it.

      The display on a smartphone is the primary mode of interaction with the device. If it's distorting/obscuring/cropping part of the content being displayed, then it's failing at its one job.

      As for having to "carry around a bunch of extra crap", if the phone had a removable battery you'd still have to carry the spare. You can leave the Bluetooth adapter or wired dongle attached to the headphones you intend to use. I'll give you that the USB OTG drive is truly an extra item to carry, but most of them are designed to be added to a key ring - something you're likely carrying anyway. Or just don't cheap out - buy a phone with adequate storage to begin with.

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    21. Re:Sigh. by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      Someone apparently doesn't pay attention to the cost of current flagship phones.

    22. Re:Sigh. by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have the Chinese listen to me [effortlessly] than the rest of the world.

      A backdoor for anybody is a backdoor for everybody, eventually.

    23. Re: Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mainstream, not flagship. Your reading comprehension skills are weak, old man.

    24. Re: Sigh. by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, thank you for correcting me. Though I would probably call you 'old man' over thinking that the OnePlus is comparable to mainstream vs. flagship (hint: it's competition is flagship phones). Most of the current lines of phones out there do not have 6-8GB of RAM, so not sure what phones you're looking at.

  3. Limited time offer: security monitoring for free by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Live 24/7 security monitoring of all your capitalist yankee calls is provided free of charge for an unlimited time, courtesy of Glorious Leader Xi Jinping.

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  4. Fugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any phone that has a notch I will always avoid.

    1. Re:Fugly by xpiotr · · Score: 1

      Minecrafts' notch is the only great notch there is!

  5. $500...is now a "bargain". by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The phone...will sell for a price above $500 but packs features that are typically present only in pricier handsets."

    At first I thought to myself, "Are they insane? $500 isn't some bargain."

    Then I went and looked at the MSRPs of smartphones, and was quickly reminded why it makes little sense to play that game. Blows me away what smartphone junkies will spend on hardware these days.

    1. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 0

      "The phone...will sell for a price above $500 but packs features that are typically present only in pricier handsets."

      At first I thought to myself, "Are they insane? $500 isn't some bargain."

      Then I went and looked at the MSRPs of smartphones, and was quickly reminded why it makes little sense to play that game. Blows me away what smartphone junkies will spend on hardware these days.

      Same here.

      I notice the summary also neglects to mention what the features are (that it is packed with) that would justify the price ...

    2. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      At first I thought to myself, "Are they insane? $500 isn't some bargain."

      Have you seen the prices of washing machines lately? Gone grocery shopping? Smartphones haven't become more expensive - it's rapid inflation of the dollar.

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    3. Re: $500...is now a "bargain". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The âoecheap âoe iPhone now starts at $750. Many high end phones are crossing the $1000 line.

    4. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      You can get some surprisingly good phones for $60 if you look around (Blu R1 HD I got three years ago was excellent at the time); $200-250 seems to be the going rate for a 5" phone with decent performance and enough storage that an SD card isn't necessary.

      My rule for Android phones is that the more you spend, the shittier the phone is likely to be. Phones in the $150-250 range will generally come with headphone jacks, expandable storage, often with dedicated buttons on the bezel (no more guessing where you have to swipe from to get the buttons to appear on a full screen app), dual SIMs, battery lives longer than a day etc. As the phone gets more expensive, the headphone jacks and storage starts to disappear and the battery life gets shorter.

      They sell because people are gullible and think pricier=better.

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    5. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Downmodded for a remark about the price of a phone?

      Rabid OnePlus fan, or demented stalker, lol?

    6. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by Pulzar · · Score: 1

      They sell because people are gullible and think pricier=better.

      Why do you have to have such low opinion of people?

      You don't think it's possible that better screens, better cameras, faster and thinner phones, are not features that anybody wants? You have to be aware that expandable storage and swappable battery are simply not that important to most people. And as much as I don't like the idea of the disappearing headphone jack, that looks like it's going to go the way of the expandable storage... something that only a few "corner case" users will need.

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    7. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      I haven't been keeping up, what's the current Washing Machine Index at?

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    8. Re:$500...is now a "bargain". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you have to have such low opinion of people?

      Because IQ of an average person is 100, and that is not very high IQ. On average people are pretty dumb. Very few people move humanity forward, the rest just gaze with a blank stare. Just look at the most popular youtube channels.

  6. Good News by ramlaljhon · · Score: 1

    Great Job by Oneplus people.

    1. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great Job by Oneplus people.

      No.

  7. The most important change from the OnePlus 6 is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Removal of the 3.5mm jack. No 3.5mm jack, no sale. I was looking forward to this phone, but went with Note 9 instead. No regrets

  8. No Headphone Jack by Kunedog · · Score: 0

    The OnePlus 6T will largely offer the same specs as its predecessor -- the OnePlus 6, which was launched earlier this year. Some of the key changes include a smaller notch on the front display and a built-in fingerprint scanner that is embedded in it.

    The 6 had a headphone jack, and the 6T doesn't. That's worth mentioning in TFS (if not the headline).

    1. Re:No Headphone Jack by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      The OnePlus 6T will largely offer the same specs as its predecessor -- the OnePlus 6, which was launched earlier this year. Some of the key changes include a smaller notch on the front display and a built-in fingerprint scanner that is embedded in it.

      The 6 had a headphone jack, and the 6T doesn't. That's worth mentioning in TFS (if not the headline).

      Why was this modded redundant?

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  9. Peak idiocy on phones. by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

    Try and find a phone with a nice, consistently locatable, difficult to accidentally press, home button (bonus if finger sensor in it)

    combined with,...
    a flat display
    and a headphone jack.
    That isn't an old model, a modern, powerful one. Try to find one, it no longer exists.

    I'll deal without the home button but this no headphone + curved trend, those 2 I will not abide by, it's a ridiculous case of the manufacturers copying everyone else, as usual. No choice, just all same-phones.

    1. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My intuition on this is to look at Nokia and as far as I know the bigger number was Nokia 8. It's hard for me to tell on some frontal pictures if the screen is curved or not. Turns out it is flat.
      It has a home button. So I think it does in fact everything you want. Also from review screen can go crazy bright (IPS) and audio can go loud.

    2. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just described my LG G6, home button (with fingerprint sensor) on back below camera, flat screen, headphone jack, microSD, no notch, wireless charging. If it had a replaceable battery it would be perfect.

    3. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony Xperia XZ3? Samsung Galaxy S9+ ?

    4. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Galaxy A9? Pocophone F1?

      Flat display? Check
      Headphone jack? Check
      Old model? Nope, plenty new!
      Modern, powerful one? Not the bleeding edge, but plenty powerful enough.

      No physical home button though, but you said you're OK with that.

    5. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I thought of the XZ3 first then remembered that although Sony invented the mobile device with 3.5mm jack, they've dropped it on XZ2 and XZ3. (recently)

    6. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you are looking for is a Moto G6, which is about $220 at Costco or online.

    7. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      combined with,... a flat display
      and a headphone jack.
      That isn't an old model, a modern, powerful one. Try to find one, it no longer exists.

      Here you go.. I've had mine for about 6 months, and got it at a slightly better price. It's plenty fast for me, and also supports up to 256 GB of extra storage via micro SD.

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    8. Re:Peak idiocy on phones. by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Looks ok, but it's 18 months old now....

      If I'm going to be a nerd, I may as well go modern can be.

  10. What happened to the spy chip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever happened to the Chinese spy chip? The 6 pin chip that somehow had network sniffing access and ability to modify the OS to be writable. Everyone in the cloud OS land was supposed to have been tipped off and yet kept silent. The one reported by Bloomberg. It didn't quite ring true, and it seems to have been quietly 'forgotten'/disavowed.

    Let me guess, Oracle planted the story to try to undermine Amazon's government cloud services bid.

    If a candidate for it hasn't been found, then instead we need to examine Bloombergs story reporting. They were fed a story and it was designed to attack a very specific company. Now owned by Amazon, at a time when Amazon are the only serious bidder for government cloud services.

    My guess, it was Oracle that fed Bloomberg the story.

    That makes sense, Oracle claiming the servers from a company that Amazon bought are all loaded with Chinese spyware. It's a very Oracle thing to do. A quick search of the article and Oracle are not mentioned as one of the major companies.....

    Oracle.

  11. I LIKE center-back fingerprint buttons by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    At least the way Huawei did it on the phone I'm using, I have a fingerprint sensor on the back that's very fast and so easy to use that I can accidentally unlock my phone in pulling it out of my pocket.

    I can also use it as a command or launcher button with 3 actions - click for App A (e.g. notes), double-click for App B (e.g. Google Pay), hold for Action C (toggling the camera LED as a flashlight). I can even do that last without even unlocking the phone. That is all incredibly convenient.

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  12. Can We Please Stop The Rhetoric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we please stop with this stupid "trade war" rhetoric? We're just making small adjustments to tariff schedules. If we were to have a real, honest to goodness trade war with China, they would already own us.

  13. are typically present only in pricier handsets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YES! Finally, you don't have to spend $$$ to get Chinese spyware. Now everyone can be part of the problem. All of your information can be recorded and you can be operated like a bot.

  14. Re: Sigh. Double sigh by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The cloud. AKA, somebody else's computer. If you don't understand the issue, just vote Trump. You already want to make it easy.

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  15. No headphone, no dice by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    My kid has had a OnePlus 3T for a long time and I was quite impressed with it. However, we got tired of headphones being lost/broken/failing on their own so we just found $4 wired headphones from Amazon that everyone likes and order them in bulk. OnePlus 6T no longer has a headphone port which would give us issues with losing dongles. We now all have Note 9's and we are all quite happy with them, and being able to add storage is a nice benefit.

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    1. Re:No headphone, no dice by godefroi · · Score: 1

      If you purchased 3 Note 9s, you're definitely out of my price range. They're very nearly twice the price of this 6T.

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  16. Who Knows by Kunedog · · Score: 1

    The 6 had a headphone jack, and the 6T doesn't. That's worth mentioning in TFS (if not the headline).

    Why was this modded redundant?

    Hell if I know. The missing feature was given proper attention (ableit with an attempted postive spin) when it was announced.