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Twitter Plans To Remove 'Like' Button in a Bid To Improve the Quality of Debate, Report Says (telegraph.co.uk)

Twitter is planning to remove the ability to "like" tweets in a radical move that aims to improve the quality of debate on the social network, UK news outlet The Telegraph (paywalled) reports, citing CEO Jack Dorsey's comments at a recent company event. From the report: Founder Jack Dorsey last week admitted at a Twitter event that he was not a fan of the heart-shaped button and that it would be getting rid of it "soon." The feature was introduced in 2015 to replace "favourites," a star-shaped button that allowed people to bookmark tweets to read later. Update: In a statement, Twitter neither confirmed nor denied the report, adding that it was indeed in the process of rethinking "everything." It said, "As we've been saying for a while, we are rethinking everything about the service to ensure we are incentivizing healthy conversation, that includes the like button. We are in the early stages of the work and have no plans to share right now."

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  1. Bookmarks to come back? by swinferno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wonder if the bookmark option will come back. That made more sense to me anyway.

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    1. Re:Bookmarks to come back? by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Funny

      It will be replaced by a selection of other emojis, including mad, laughing, sad, laughing, and woah.

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    2. Re:Bookmarks to come back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot the "triggered" emoji.

    3. Re:Bookmarks to come back? by Sique · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is that the "Like" button wasn't technically an "I appove" button, but a "keep me informed about the tweet" button. Thus people who wanted to stay informed, had to "like" something they might not approve of, e.g. a hurrican made landfall and a tweet about damages and evacuations was something you definitely wanted to know, but that doesn't mean you approve to the hurrican making landfall or the way evacuations were executed.

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    4. Re:Bookmarks to come back? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm wondering what the problem with the "like" button is?

      Could it be that too many people are liking the "wrong" things?

      Perhaps too many people are liking things that go against the political bent of the Twitter owners/management believe in?

      Who knows. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the concept of Twitter and "quality of debate".

      Twitter is not a place for debate, and in no way shape or form does quality of anything have anything to do with the place.

      It is however, a fine place for intellectually or emotionally challenged individuals to spout off within the limitations of their ability. Any thing that comes in a nutshell belongs in one.

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    5. Re:Bookmarks to come back? by donaggie03 · · Score: 4, Funny

      How can I like this comment?

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  2. Please copy bookface by Tomahawk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's like to be able to say 'like' or 'don't like' or 'funny', 'sad', etc, similar to what Bookface do. Add more option, don't take the option away. Learn from how your users want to use your product, don't dictate.

    1. Re:Please copy bookface by forkfail · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are the product.

      Exercise for the student: who are the users?

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    2. Re:Please copy bookface by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What with today's censorship - mandated by the state, self-imposed, AI driven, whatever - and political correctness, perhaps it makes more sense to remove the ability to tweet, and only have buttons to like / dislike pre-approved tweets from "authorized authors"

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    3. Re:Please copy bookface by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Simple likes do have some advantages. The fact that you can't down mod prevents a lot of trolling and control of the narrative by censorship. It forces people to post a reply instead of just modding down. You see both sides of the argument.

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    4. Re:Please copy bookface by tsqr · · Score: 2

      Interesting point of view. Professional actors are paid in proportion to box-office draw; are they the product, or is the movie they act in the product? I get a profit-sharing bonus every year proportional to how well my company performs; am I the product, or are the items my company sells the products? A manual laborer is paid proportional to the time he spends laboring; is he the product, or are the fruits of his labor the product?

      Are there any endevours in which people are not the products, in your opinion?

    5. Re:Please copy bookface by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Here's the problem with your idea though. It also doesn't give a barometer to how shitty a post/point/view is. So you get some feminist spouting "Kill all men" or some politician saying "Trump supporters are white hicks with no teeth(sic)." And you'll see plenty of likes, the dissenting posts will be buried(if they're not buried by bot posts/algorithm tampering), and the option to "vote down" those shitty posts which doesn't exist, really isn't showing that the person is out of their mind.

      Rather it reinforces their echo-chamber because the only views they're getting are positive. It's only in the cases where outrage mobs show up that the person might have a clue they fucked up. Take for example Louis Farrakhan's "I'm not anti-semite, I'm anti-termite" aka Jews eat civilization from the inside out. Oh boy was there a lot of pro-support for that from progressives and communists supporting that. The people stating that it was antisemitic? Flagged so hard the posts were auto removed by the system itself.

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  3. woah by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The feature was introduced in 2015 to replace "favourites," a star-shaped button that allowed people to bookmark tweets to read later.

    You don't have enough time to read a tweet now, but you do have enough time to realize that you should read it later?

    1. Re:woah by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know what any of you do with Twitter, but marking things for followup seems reasonable enough. It's not necessarily just for reading the tweet, but for the content linked in the tweet or as a reminder to revisit it later to see how the conversation has progressed or to comment yourself.

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    2. Re:woah by Hentes · · Score: 2

      Often Twitter is used as a poor man's RSS, with tweets just being links to the main article.

  4. don't like by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    (that's all) -- seriously removing like could jest result in lots of comments like "yes", "agree", or "ok"

  5. Improve Quality of Debate? by forkfail · · Score: 2

    Gimme a break. Twitter sells rage while attempting to maintain a certain agenda.

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  6. Slashdot: Groupthink up, facts down by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > It may work out well, if most of the community is sensible and there's impartial moderators that do their job. But I've seen the opposite happen often enough, where dissenting opinions which are factually more correct than the simplistic bullshit get 'downvoted into oblivion' while the simplistic bullshit stays on top (using standard sorting).

    That's a problem on Slashdot.
    Somebody will post "the boss / execs will never go to jail!" and that's instantly plus five. I point out that the boss was arrested a few months ago and is looking at ten to twenty years, and provide a link, that gets modded to -1.

    Very often what's modded up the most is the opposite of the plain facts, while a link to thr actual facts gets modded down because it doesn't fit the narrative.

    1. Re:Slashdot: Groupthink up, facts down by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      That's a problem on Slashdot. Somebody will post "the boss / execs will never go to jail!" and that's instantly plus five. I point out that the boss was arrested a few months ago and is looking at ten to twenty years, and provide a link, that gets modded to -1.

      Very often what's modded up the most is the opposite of the plain facts, while a link to thr actual facts gets modded down because it doesn't fit the narrative.

      And? If I post something a bit contentious, my emails show me that it gets a lot of Plus and minus votes. And some have ended up in the basement. So what? People don't have to agree with me.

      Rather, it is interesting to note how some of the downvotes seem to correlate with different time zones, and the times showing who is likely awake, and who is likely not.

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  7. Re: Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Complaining about people not liking their ideas whilst referring to people who he disagrees with as "NPC". Trying to dehumanize people he disagrees with.

    Hypocrite much?

  8. Their product turned against them. by kurkosdr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every social media platform tries to eliminate the "like" button lately. You see, if there is a "like" button and no "dislike" button (which can be abused by the internet thought patrol to silence dissidents), all voices will be heard and most importantly their impact will be assessed (to a degree). Which isn't good if you are progressive CEO of a "hip" tech startup who believes in political bullying and the silencing of "non-progressive" voices.

  9. Re:Every browser has bookmarks by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Every browser that I'm aware of already has bookmarks. You should try that feature. It works really well.

    We're talking about Twitter users, you insensitive clod!

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  10. Re:Agreed, it's one of the better systems by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    I agree, Slashdot's mod system is better than most.

    Perhaps it would be helpful to have a "-1 I disagree" or "-1 fuck this guy", along with "+1 I believe this too" that are decoys - they don't actually do anything. Lol

    I've thought along the same lines, maybe adding a -1 dafuq? and +1 Brutal.

    But yes - Slashdot's mod system should be adopted by others. It isn't perfect, but I haven't seen anything better.

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  11. Re:Easiest way to improve quality of discourse by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't forget the leftwing nutjobs too. I drive a Prius, I recently got cut off by a large pickup truck with a bumper sticker saying they will cut off Prius. I live in a rural areas, Pickup Trucks are common, because they are often needed for their livelihood. My Livelyhood requires me to commute 30 miles to work, so I got a car with the best gas mileage that I could afford at the time. The pickup truck driver sees Prius owners as a threat because Prius Owners has/had a tenancy to be preachy and he probably fears that if we have our way we will push him to get rid of his truck that he enjoys and uses for his livelyhood, and get the same little car that I have. Now that he was clearly targeting me, I no longer like that particular driver, but I always need to be cautious around larger pickup trucks because I know they see me as a threat. This sounds stupid, but it is a sign of our times. We see our differences a threat vs a benefit.

    You need a big rear window sticker that reads, "Prius Owners for Second Amendment Solutions to Traffic Problems"

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  12. false by bussdriver · · Score: 2

    The minority in every context has to face the results of peer pressure. It's subjective as to how horrific that pressure may be. You special isolated snow flakes might freak out over relatively nothing. You also might be anti-social and need that popular peer pressure to trigger EVOLVED emotions so you either adapt to function in the social group or you leave and try to survive alone (which is easy in our modern disconnected abstracted society.)

    The majority power sets the guidelines... unless authoritarian, then the power is disproportionate... which to the minority perspective looks like almost the same thing since the way such things are carried out are not by seeing the whole majority crowd acting as one-- they are almost always represented in some way by a few entities.

    Up/Down voting is NOT bullying. Peer pressure / social pressure can seem similar to bullying but are not the same; although, depending on how you define it and the situation it can be the same. Bullying can be a parent forcing rules upon a child; trying to define it so it can't apply to that but also applies everywhere it's used is not so easy. Question is then, is all bullying bad? or do we play legal games trying to define it so it allows stuff we approve of? (like terrorism for example which ends up being subjective hypocrisy because that approach doesn't work.) The reasonable end position is that bullying is not always bad (by far better than accepting hypocrisy-- something we now seem to be doing instead.)

  13. The only winning move by ruddk · · Score: 2

    The only winning move is not to use twitter.
    Because it is the perfect medium for twats. :)

  14. Twitter is the Sewer of the Internet by johnsie · · Score: 3

    It's a horrible place where the most horrible people are given soap boxes. I changed my password to something I wouldn't remember, logged out and never looked back. Facebook is in the same boat. Never got instagram. Seems to be just people posing and pretending to have lives, when in reality they spend most of their time trying to show that they have lives.