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Iran Allegedly Hit By Computer Virus More Violent Than Stuxnet (timesofisrael.com)

TTL0 shares a report from The Times of Israel: Iranian infrastructure and strategic networks have come under attack in the last few days by a computer virus similar to Stuxnet but "more violent, more advanced and more sophisticated," and Israeli officials are refusing to discuss what role, if any, they may have had in the operation, an Israeli TV report said Wednesday. "Remember Stuxnet, the virus that penetrated the computers of the Iranian nuclear industry?" the report on Israel's Hadashot news asked. Iran "has admitted in the past few days that it is again facing a similar attack, from a more violent, more advanced and more sophisticated virus than before, that has hit infrastructure and strategic networks." The Iranians, the TV report went on, are "not admitting, of course, how much damage has been caused." On Sunday, Gholamreza Jalali, the head of Iran's civil defense agency, said Tehran had neutralized a new version of Stuxnet, Reuters reported. Stuxnet penetrated Iran's nuclear program, "taking control and sabotaging parts of its enrichment processes by speeding up its centrifuges," the report notes. We'll update this story when more details become available.

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  1. advanced by Andy+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    more advanced AND more sophisticated?

    DAMN...

    1. Re:advanced by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Funny

      It wrecks your centrifuges even faster, and smokes a cigarette in a dinner jacket while doing it.

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  2. That's what you get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    For looking at Burka pr0n on work machines.

    1. Re:That's what you get by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      For looking at Burka pr0n on work machines.

      OOOh...look!! An ankle.....[heavy breathing]

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  3. Those in glass houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Our entire economy is integrated with computers now. Throwing open the doors on destructive attackâ(TM)s to cripple a govt/economy is just stupid, we are way more vulnerable to this shit and no we do not have adequate protections in place.

  4. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this not an act of war? Then again, Israel is constantly engaged in acts of war against Iran.

    Funny how it's the leaders of Iran who have literally vowed to conduct genocide and "wipe Israel off the map".

    And then Iran created a proxy army (Hezbollah) that actually is trying to do just that.

    Kinda strange how you missed that.

    But hey, you're not an anti-Semite. You just blindly support a medieval bunch of homophobic misogynists in their attempt to kill Jews because the fucking Koran says so.

  5. Re:Overly Dramatic Headline by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A computer virus may stop your computer from working but its not "violent" - its not going to walk up and punch you.

    With the "internet of things" now, who knows?

    It may try to microwave you or slam your garage door on you, anyway ...

  6. Re:Giving the enemy a bigger sword by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it's anything like Stuxnet in terms of how it operates then the payload will be extremely specific to the environment it was targeting - e.g. require a specific control app, managing, a given make/model of PLC, connected to a given type of mechanical/electrical plant, and so on. What it might potentially do is provide victims with access to one or more zero-day vulnerabilities for those tools/products they may not have been previously aware of if they can successfully reverse engineer them, but they'd still need to repurpose those to their own ends, find suitable targets, and design their own payloads. The clock on that is also ticking, because copies of the code will get out into the security community at large, and once that happens CVE numbers will eventually get assigned and patches produced. Stuxnet might still be revealling hidden depths, but it's highly unlikely that most of the delivery mechanisms it employed would still be effective in delivering payloads anywhere except for locations that have almost no concept of security and the importance of software/firmware updates.

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  7. Re:Now we see the violence inherent in the system! by radja · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stuxnet managed to do almost the same, but to ultracentrifuges used to enrich uranium.

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  8. Stuxnet was targetted against Germany by ghoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It specifically targetted Siemens controllers the Iranians had bought. It ensured that for the future the Iranians would either buy American controllers on the black market or use non-western controllers which there was a lesser chance of the US/Israel having source code to.
    The Germans were pissed about Stuxnet as it killed their market for controllers around the world.

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    1. Re:Stuxnet was targetted against Germany by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wouldn't ever want to be seen as defending Siemens, but for the sake of accuracy I would say their security overall is about average for the industry. The problem is that the industry average is incredibly low.

  9. Re:But who? Who would purposefully do that? Any wh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Canada. Canada is the only country that could do this AND get away with it. Who'd think Canada? That's laughable. But it's so ridiculous that it was Canada that it HAS to be Canada.

  10. Re:Overly Dramatic Headline by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A computer virus may stop your computer from working but its not "violent" - its not going to walk up and punch you.

    No, but if a foreign country did it to us and it caused enough of a crippling to one of our infrastructure projects or caused enough economic damage you could bet our politicians would complain about it being "an act of war". Even with some of the more minor hackings done by China, and Russia a few politicians have made some such comments. If something as big as Stuxnet hit us, I think the majority would want some form of retaliation.

    However, if Iran retaliates against Israel or the US (or whoever else is to blame) for this, you can bet they will be bombed and blamed as the aggressors.

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  11. Iran is not the enemy by bkmoore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm writing this from the perspective of an American, and I am no fan of Iran. Iran has a terrible religious fundamentalist regime that murders people and exports terror throughout the Middle East, to include attacking Israel. But I am sick and tired of being told by our pols that Iran is our mortal enemy, and represents a grave national security threat that needs to be attacked and destroyed. Especially when those same pols supports a different middle eastern country that has a terrible religious fundamentalist regime that murders people and exports terror throughout the Middle East and occasionally to Lower Manhattan.

    It's about nuclear weapons!!! But we support another Moslem nation that also has nuclear weapons, has live-tested them, gone to war with their neighbor multiple times, supported our enemies in Afghanistan, and is coincidentally where we found Osama Bin Laden's hiding place. So Iran can't have nuclear weapons, but the other one can? At least we know who's in charge in Iran. I'm not too sure who's really in charge in that other nuclear-armed Moslem country, it could be the military on Monday and Thursday, the civilians on Tuesday and Wednesday, and the clerics on Friday. They all take the weekend off.

    Maybe it's human rights??? But our "allies" just dismembered a journalist and have been waging a criminal bombing campaign in Yemen. No big deal, according to our President, who reminded us that Journalist was a moslem immigrant (green card holder), and then proudly exclaimed how much money our "friends" were spending on weapons, basically putting a price on the head of that journalist, anyone with a green card (including my wife), and all Yemenis. The President never struck me as especially intelligent, but he knew the price of those weapons down to the last nickel, so maybe he's a "stable genius" after all, especially when it comes to people giving him money.

    What's the difference? One chants "death to Israel" so much that it has become cliche and supports Hezbollah, lobbing mortars into Israel and occasionally funds a suicide bomber. The other one exports Wahhabism, brainwashing one person at a time, including Mohamad Atta and a few hijackers who came to America and took up flying. The cynic in me believes the difference is one country is good for business, the other is not. I hope some day people will realize Iran is not our enemy and never will be our friend. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan are not our "friends" or our "allies", but shouldn't me made into enemies. We need to get realistic about the Middle East and above all else be consistent. Either we're for human rights or against them. But we can no longer have it both ways.

  12. Re:Now we see the violence inherent in the system! by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in the 80s. IBM brought out a new harddrive they claimed was bulletproof.

    Somebody figured the platter resonance frequency and 'tacoma narrows bridged' it with head motion during a demo.

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