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iRobot, Google Team Up To Understand Your Smart Home (zdnet.com)

iRobot and Google are looking for ways to integrate the Roomba-maker's home maps with Google Assistant to extend instructions to other gadgets. "The collaboration centers on iRobot's Roomba i7+ vacuum models' ability to map home floor plans and remember room names," notes TechCrunch. From the report: As it is, Google Home users or anyone with Google Assistant can give a voice command like, "Hey Google, clean the kitchen," and a Roomba carries out the task. The integration supports the task across multiple rooms that have been assigned a name, such as the bedroom, living room, and other named areas. According to iRobot, the home-mapping data could also be used to make it easier to set up new smart home gadgets and create new ways to automate the home.

In a statement to The Verge, Google said iRobot's maps could help locate wifi-connected lights and automatically assign names and locations to them within the house. Google stressed that Assistant only learns the names people have given to areas in the home so it can then instruct Roomba i7+ to go to that area. Google doesn't receive information about the layout of the home. Colin Angle, chairman and CEO of iRobot, told the publication that the partnership could help users in future tell Assistant to control other smart home gadgets using the same naming and location information used by the Roomba.

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  1. "Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Hey Google, clean the kitchen," and a Roomba carries out the task.

    Let me know when it gets good at things like cleaning up the glass jar of honey that I just dropped, then I'll consider spending money on this nonsense.

    1. Re:"Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      I dropped an entire jar of green olives on the kitchen floor the other day. We call our Roomba 'Oscar', needless to say Oscar was useless for that as well. The GF just had to have the robot but in general it is useless as a cleaning tool. The rooms have to be hand vacuumed on a regular basis, and steam cleaned a couple of times a month to keep the place clean and smelling fresh. Living in the desert, no matter what you do, sand and dust gets everywhere.

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    2. Re:"Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      What kind of floor do you have that needs to be "steam cleaned" a few timer per month? Do you have a giant wolf-dog or something?

    3. Re: "Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps he has carpet and isn't a filthy Doritos-stained neckbeard sort.

    4. Re: "Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Anyone who voluntarily lives in a place with chemical-laden crap-pet glued to the floors is an idiot. Hardwood floors, tile, and area rugs or go home.

      US is the only country that's crazy enough to have homes with carpet even in the toilets.

    5. Re:"Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      No carpet in the house at all, tile and wood floors. I do have a Persian rug in the den. Oscar, our Roomba does well with the cat hair, but here in the desert the sand and dust get every where and vacuuming it does little but spread it around. I've found that only the steam mop picks up the fine dust and gets rid of that gritty feeling.

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    6. Re: "Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I need google knowing the dimensions and other âoemetadataâ of my home like I need swillden comments. Google can fuck right off.

    7. Re:"Hey Google, clean the kitchen" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hey, robot vacuum, why the fuck is the floor dirty? Do I actually have to give you voice commands to do the only job you are capable of doing? Have you been busy doing something else?"

  2. Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So people want the governments' (note plural) watchdog to know where everything and everyone is in their homes?

    1. Re:Surveillance by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2020 Headline: Google admits disclosing home layout and belonging data to SWAT teams for use in planning of raids.

      (totally not Big Brother)

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    2. Re:Surveillance by bagofbeans · · Score: 1

      Nearly: 2020 Headline: Google admits analysing air particles and reporting potentially illicit detections to preferential LE accounts.

  3. China and Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Team up to understand your dumb home.

  4. Timer is better.... by magarity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My old pre-wifi Roomba cleans the kitchen floor daily thanks to a simple timer. Why would I want to have to verbally command it from another location daily?

    1. Re:Timer is better.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the Internet Of Things Automatic Kitchen Dirtier hasn't been invented yet.

    2. Re:Timer is better.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even if I need to start the roomba now(tm), I just walk over to the base and push the button. That is no more than a 20m walk and maybe a flight of stairs. Sure there might be a usecase for remotely start cleaning, but if nobody is home, who would be making the mess needed for cleaning?

    3. Re:Timer is better.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's a longer walk than that, then you're probably rich enough to just pay somebody to come in and do the vacuuming on a regular basis.

      I like the idea behind these, but they definitely aren't enough to completely solve the problem. You probably do want to occasionally get a deeper cleaning with a more powerful vacuum.

    4. Re:Timer is better.... by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Because burglar-hackers and/or the future totalitarian government would like an accurate layout of your house.

      Or something. I'm sure a bad sci-fi author or conspiracy theorist could come up with something more entertaining.

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    5. Re:Timer is better.... by swillden · · Score: 1

      My old pre-wifi Roomba cleans the kitchen floor daily thanks to a simple timer. Why would I want to have to verbally command it from another location daily?

      You have an automatic timer for the whole area the robot cleans, and you can set additional timed cleaning cycles for specific rooms which need it more often... and you can also order an extra cleaning cycle of a particular area when you have some reason to know that it needs it, or some reason that you want it to be extra clean.

      The voice command stuff isn't instead of timer-based cleaning, it's in addition to.

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    6. Re:Timer is better.... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Not daily. But suppose you spill something; you can just call for Roomba to clean up in aisle 5 instead of walking your lazy ass over there and run it manually (or god forbid: getting out the pan and broom yourself).

      It's not groundbreaking stuff, but once you integrate more things into these smart speaker systems, you kind of get used to it. I played with it a while ago, removed it since I don't want Google listening in on everything that goes on at home, but I did miss it at first. It's handy to just say "Google, lights" when you walk into the basement with your hands full, unfortunately at the time the system wasn't smart enough to turn on the lights in the room I am in, and I had to specify the room with the command (maybe they've improved that by now). Or "Google, check the doors" to make sure I've locked them for the night. "Google, tea" to turn the kettle on. And so on. Each function is a somewhat pointless tour-de-force, but together these small conveniences add up to something good. Though again, it's hardly a life-changing experience.

      I'll add this functionality to my home setup again, once there's a decent off-the-grid voice recognition system available (there already are a few for those who don't mind a homebrew solution).

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    7. Re:Timer is better.... by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

      Because burglar-hackers and/or the future totalitarian government would like an accurate layout of your house.

      If the home you are living in has ever been on the real estate market listed in MLS in the past 15 years, then the floorplan has already been out there for all to see and sites like zillow keep the pictures up even after the sale.

  5. *vomit* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *vomit*

  6. Google is creepy enough already by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do you want Google to know your homes' floorplan and where all the furniture is?

    1. Re:Google is creepy enough already by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Ultimately Google would like to show you ads based on analysis of the available space in your home and what you do (or do not) own.

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    2. Re:Google is creepy enough already by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Why do you want Google to know your homes' floorplan and where all the furniture is?

      Oh, this information could be useful for somebody . . . along with the location of any of your valuables, and the times when you are usually not home.

      Then a concerned, unknown, total stranger can stop by when you aren't home, and check up on your valuables to make sure that they are all still there.

      As for me . . . it's very practical that my Scooba knows the location of the wolf pits in my home, but it would remove the thrill of the element of "Surprise!" for others, when they discover them accidentally.

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    3. Re:Google is creepy enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, it will be able to tell if you have a pool table or a baby crib, a kitty litter box or a dog bed.

      And from that it will learn about your political views and learn how to push your buttons, while selling your data to your insurance company to raise your rates.

      Smart homes are tech for stupid people.

    4. Re:Google is creepy enough already by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      All the better to push more ads on users with.

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    5. Re:Google is creepy enough already by swillden · · Score: 1

      Why do you want Google to know your homes' floorplan and where all the furniture is?

      From the summary:

      Google doesn't receive information about the layout of the home.

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    6. Re:Google is creepy enough already by Barnoid · · Score: 1

      From the summary:

      Google doesn't receive information about the layout of the home.

      Rest assured that this will be changed with a forced update of the ELUA ("Accept or your Roomba will stop working").

    7. Re:Google is creepy enough already by swillden · · Score: 1

      From the summary:

      Google doesn't receive information about the layout of the home.

      Rest assured that this will be changed with a forced update of the ELUA ("Accept or your Roomba will stop working").

      I'll bet you $1000 that this never happens.

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    8. Re:Google is creepy enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful, I wouldn't take that bet: Shawn Willden.

    9. Re: Google is creepy enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creepy google engineer defends creepy google practices. News at 11

    10. Re: Google is creepy enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shawn, can we at least agree that a company making billions on hyper focused advertising based on knowing tons of personal data is not the ideal entity to have eyes and ears all over the inside of your house promising not to use it?

  7. I was considering getting an iRobot product... by LostMonk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that plan is canceled.

    1. Re:I was considering getting an iRobot product... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of non-Wifi Roombas available. And aside from scheduling (which only requires wi-fi for setup), the daily cleaning features of the robot work just fine without wi-fi.

      Don't let Google and the IoT scare you away from a vacuuming robot. All those features are optional.

    2. Re:I was considering getting an iRobot product... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except iRobot just updated the terms of service for the app, that you have to agree to... to set it up over wifi or update the software... hmm.

    3. Re:I was considering getting an iRobot product... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except iRobot just updated the terms of service for the app, that you have to agree to... to set it up over wifi or update the software... hmm.

      ..eh? Why in the world would you even want to update the firmware on a Roomba? The one I use has been fine. I've never needed or wanted to run any "app".

    4. Re:I was considering getting an iRobot product... by Tukz · · Score: 1

      I have had iRobot for somewhere around a decade, spanning over 2 vacuum models and a mop cleaner.

      I have never used any "app" or had my devices connected to a network.

      Isn't this a common trend for "smart" home devices? Just don't use the app or connect the device to the internet.

      Even my lawn mower comes with some fancy app that I can control it with, but why would I ever need it? It does its job just fine without ever being connected to anything but its power station.

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    5. Re:I was considering getting an iRobot product... by JThundley · · Score: 1

      What he says is the truth. Mine only needs a light projected on the ceiling, I love my little mop.

  8. Sellouts! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't trust anyone with access to any part of your life.

  9. Entire house is automated, google has been banned. by bongey · · Score: 2

    I have my entire house automated, down to controlling air flow to individual rooms. I bought both the Amazon Echo and Google Home. Google Home work at first and it's voice recognition is much better than the Amazon Echo. Google being Google decided to start limiting functionality, example local Google Home,Harmony Emulator, which makes home control MUCH MUCH faster , ie local network,Google Home, Cloud-,local network,home controller than going local network,Google Home,Google Cloud (Voice Recognition) ,Home Controller Cloud,Local network,Home Controller. Yes it does make a difference especially when you are giving multiple commands in a row. Adding 2-5 seconds between commands, vs 1 second pause is just one reason the Google Home product is now just in the closet.

    Google allowed local harmony access at first, allowing adding all of them with one button click.If you have 80+ devices or even 20+ devices , manually adding each one and giving it name is major PITA. Google then removed adding new local harmony devices, only allowing grandfathered devices, then they just removed all local access to push their own api called google actions.

      Actionis looks pretty good but Google will cancel it in a few years leaving you just with your G Home "It looks like those lights have not been set up yet, just go to the Google Home app", which will involve a new home controller or google home version X.Y.Z or most likely both. Yep they remove the Home part and leave you with a voice activated google search with no screen.

  10. Will Google ever leave something alone by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    Time to sell the Roomba. Back to the good ole vacuum.

    It's amazing the number of things I used to use that I gave up on because Google bought the company that made it to data-rape the user base. The richer Google gets, the more ubiquitous it gets, and the harder it becomes to avoid interacting with this leech of a company...

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  11. Hey Google... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where's the safe room?

  12. Re:Entire house is automated, google has been bann by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have my entire house automated

    Why? Serious question.

  13. Googles to map your home by oxicage · · Score: 2

    This is a way for Google to map and to get details about your home. Of course its not presented to the public like that. I wonder how much Roomba is getting paid for this data about your home.

  14. "Google doesn't receive information" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, that would be a first.

    so here's a proper translation:

    it "doesn't count" when irobot gets the data first, then google gets it from them instead.

  15. Dear iRobot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Iâ(TM)m happy with âoeKylieâ as she is. Donâ(TM)t step over the line.

  16. !SmartHome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I don't have a Smart Home. Is that a Feature Home?

  17. It has nothing to do with understanding ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... your smart home. It has everything to do with mapping your home and knowing when you are out so that Google can sell your personal info to the highest bidder.

  18. iRobot has been doing this for a while... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    iRobot has been building floor plans for years (it was covered on /. when they announced it). That Google is buying access to it is... well, to be expected. iRobot is publicly traded. That means that someone is going to eventually sell/lease the data to the big data companies.

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  19. Roomba's Privacy policy is already horrifying, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not add google, yeah! That's it!!!!

  20. Optionnal feature by DrYak · · Score: 1

    - Not all Roomba are even Wifi enabled to begin with.

    Even Wifi enabled Roomba, work without wifi.
    Even if you activate the Wifi access, you can also use only for firmware update and otherwise only talk to your smartphone directly over the local network (or optionnally to your home server running on some raspberry pi).
    ( ^at that point you already have 99% of features people want, including local tiled maps on navigation-cam featuring models like the 9x0 serie)

    This thing aditionnally requires you to connect it to iRobot's cloud and link to your Google account.
    ( ^ this is required for the creepy features like using the App over internet (for 890 and more recent), storage of maps of past runs (for 9xx and more recent), and permanent map of the floor and voice commands (for i7/i9) )

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  21. Bugs by DrYak · · Score: 1

    The first version of the mapping feature of the 900 series was a bit buggy and got lost.
    It cleans okay (still able to reach almost everywhere using the random walk of classic roombas) but has no fucking clue where the home base is and how to reach it back (it just keeps running around aimlessly until battery runs out, whereas classic roomba run aimlessly around until within reach of base station and then IR to engage the "tractor beam" feature).

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  22. Firmware updates by DrYak · · Score: 1

    The Wifi and app are only a hard requirement for:
    - firmware update (it's not done with a serial dongle anymore) to weed out bugs (the first version of 900 had navigation problems)
    - setting time and timers (there are buttons on the device utself anymore. Apparently "blinking twelve" is still a problem with people too stupid to press buttons).

    Separate cloud connection is required for the creepier features

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    1. Re:Firmware updates by Tukz · · Score: 1

      Oh, I didn't know they removed buttons from the 9 series and upwards.

      I'm assuming you can program it through a Wifi end-to-end kind of thing, not requiring a internet connection.

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  23. Roomba Hunter-Killer Edition by Zorro · · Score: 1

    With new RoachScan and AntScan technologys.

    It sits in the corner of your kitchen waiting for its prey to appear. With one red beady Eye like the HAL 9000.

  24. Hey, google, when will the residents be out? by whitroth · · Score: 1

    Burgler: Hey, google, let me know when they leave."
    Idiot16yrold down the block: Hey, google, have irobot dump its contents into the sink."
    Asian company: hey, google and robot, let me know when they're in their bedroom.

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  25. Local wlan by DrYak · · Score: 1

    I'm assuming you can program it through a Wifi end-to-end kind of thing, not requiring a internet connection.

    Yup.
    At my brothers' first setup was done with a direct wifi peer-to-peer connection, then over the local network for subsequent timer settings.

    Connection to iRobot's cloud is only used for keeping an archive of maps of finished jobs, all this weird "make a map of wifi coverage" useless features, permanent floor maps for TFA's "go clean the kitchen" jobs, etc.

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