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Chinese Chip Firm Fujian Jinhua Denies Stealing IP From Micron (reuters.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the he-said-she-said dept.

Last Thursday, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced charges against Chinese state-owned Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Co. and privately owned United Microelectronics Corporation of Taiwan for stealing an estimated $8.75 billion worth of trade secrets from U.S. semiconductor giant Micron. On Saturday, Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Co denied the charges. "Behavior to steal another firm's technology does not exist," Fujian Jinhua said in a statement. "Micron regards the development of Fujian Jinhua as a threat and adopts various means to hamper and destroy the development of Fujian Jinhua." The company "always attaches great importance to the protection of intellectual property rights," Fujian Jinhua added. Reuters reports: The move to block Fujian Jinhua escalated what until now had been a business dispute into the realm of an international trade conflict between the United States and China. The world's top two economies are already waging a tariff war over their trade disputes, with U.S. duties in place on $250 billion worth of Chinese goods and Chinese duties on $110 billion of U.S. goods. The U.S. moves could seriously damage the ambitions of Fujian Jinhua, a firm of strategic importance to China.

58 comments

  1. Not worth the headline by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone admit anything these days?

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    1. Re:Not worth the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Cultural pilfering. You expected WHAT kind of behavior from chi.com slants ? You got it snowflake.

    2. Re: Not worth the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh hell yes. HELL YES.

      You are even better than APK and the cows poster. But not by much. Keep at it!

    3. Re:Not worth the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this news? If the headlines read, "Chinese Chip Firm Fujian Jinhua admits Stealing IP From Micron," then THAT would be news!

  2. Not Micron. by Foundling · · Score: 1

    "Hey, Jeff!" "Yeah, Boss!" "Micron says we stole their IP. Is that true"? "Lessee, Micropolis, Microprose, Microsoft... Nope. Not Micron." "Thanks. I'll tell the press that we specifically didn't steal IP from Micron. We're a firm of high integrity."

    1. Re:Not Micron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but dozens of Chinese Micron workers in Boise have left for China in the last several months. Pretty much giving away furniture and other items as they rush back.

      Silly Micron hired people who could reasonably be there to steal technology. Ignored U.S. workers for those from a nation that's been stealing for decades.

    2. Re:Not Micron. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Steal secrets, wait what the fuck, if your secrets had any proprietary value beyond insider trading, you would patent them, Apple patented rounded fucking corners. So yeah, the bullshit brigade crafting court cases to block competitors products behind extremely corrupt courts ie we request products to be blocked, corrupt judge sure until settlement case should be quick and then wham, we request a stay of a century or two whilst in ultra slow discovery, corrupt judge sure until settlements case should be quick?!? This has been demonstrated in US courts time and time again, years latter the case falls over but corruption has been served in the interim.

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  3. The actual indictment by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The indictment alleges conspiracy to steal secrets. Which is slightly different than actually having stolen secrets. Thus the company needs to actually dispute this by saying "we didn't plan to steal secrets" or "the stolen secrets we received were not known to be stolen by us". Simply saying they didn't steal the secrets isn't a denial.

    the path here is indirect and while showing the pattern of a conspiracy has many layers of companies fronting this operation. It's not entirely unlike how Uber ended up with Waymo desgins

    from the primary source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...

    According to the indictment, the defendants were engaged in a conspiracy to steal the trade secrets of Micron Technology, Inc. (Micron), a leader in the global semiconductor industry specializing in the advanced research, development, and manufacturing of memory products, including dynamic random-access memory (DRAM). DRAM is a leading-edge memory storage device used in computer electronics. Micron is the only United States-based company that manufactures DRAM. According to the indictment, Micron maintains a significant competitive advantage in this field due in large part from its intellectual property, including its trade secrets that include detailed, confidential information pertaining to the design, development, and manufacturing of advanced DRAM products.

    Prior to the events described in the indictment, the PRC did not possess DRAM technology, and the Central Government and State Council of the PRC publicly identified the development of DRAM and other microelectronics technology as a national economic priority. The criminal defendants are United Microelectronics Corporation (“UMC”), a Taiwan semiconductor foundry; Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, Co., Ltd. (“Jinhua'”), a state-owned enterprise of the PRC; and three Taiwan nationals: Chen Zhengkun, a.k.a. Stephen Chen, age 55; He Jianting, a.k.a. J.T. Ho, age 42; and Wang Yungming, a.k.a. Kenny Wang, age 44. UMC is a publicly listed semiconductor foundry company traded on the New York Stock Exchange; is headquartered in Taiwan; and has offices worldwide, including in Sunnyvale, California. UMC mass produces integrated-circuit logic products based on designs and technology developed and provided by its customers. Jinhua is a state-owned enterprise of the PRC, funded entirely by the Chinese government, and established in February 2016 for the sole purpose of designing, developing, and manufacturing DRAM.

    According to the indictment, Chen was a General Manager and Chairman of an electronics corporation that Micron acquired in 2013. Chen then became the president of a Micron subsidiary in Taiwan, Micron Memory Taiwan (“MMT”), responsible for manufacturing at least one of Micron’s DRAM chips. Chen resigned from MMT in July 2015 and began working at UMC almost immediately. While at UMC, Chen arranged a cooperation agreement between UMC and Fujian Jinhua whereby, with funding from Fujian Jinhua, UMC would transfer DRAM technology to Fujian Jinhua to mass-produce. The technology would be jointly shared by both UMC and Fujian Jinhua. Chen later became the President of Jinhua and was put in charge of its DRAM production facility.

    While at UMC, Chen recruited numerous MMT employees, including Ho and Wang, to join him at UMC. Prior to leaving MMT, Ho and Wang both stole and brought to UMC several Micron trade secrets related to the design and manufacture of DRAM. Wang downloaded over 900 Micron confidential and proprietary files before he left MMT and stored them on USB external hard drives or in personal cloud storage, from where he could access the technology while working at UMC.

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    1. Re:The actual indictment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Benghazi? The CIA operation was outed by the GOP.
      Valarie Plume? By W.
      Spying on Americans that Snowden reported? Under W.
      The set-up of the CIA site that Iran and China used to get our foreign sources? Under W.

      All in all, it is not the dems we have to worry about. It is the GOP that continue to harm America.

    2. Re:The actual indictment by m00sh · · Score: 1

      The indictment alleges conspiracy to steal secrets. Which is slightly different than actually having stolen secrets. Thus the company needs to actually dispute this by saying "we didn't plan to steal secrets" or "the stolen secrets we received were not known to be stolen by us". Simply saying they didn't steal the secrets isn't a denial.

      the path here is indirect and while showing the pattern of a conspiracy has many layers of companies fronting this operation. It's not entirely unlike how Uber ended up with Waymo desgins

      from the primary source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...

      According to the indictment, the defendants were engaged in a conspiracy to steal the trade secrets of Micron Technology, Inc. (Micron), a leader in the global semiconductor industry specializing in the advanced research, development, and manufacturing of memory products, including dynamic random-access memory (DRAM). DRAM is a leading-edge memory storage device used in computer electronics. Micron is the only United States-based company that manufactures DRAM. According to the indictment, Micron maintains a significant competitive advantage in this field due in large part from its intellectual property, including its trade secrets that include detailed, confidential information pertaining to the design, development, and manufacturing of advanced DRAM products.

      Prior to the events described in the indictment, the PRC did not possess DRAM technology, and the Central Government and State Council of the PRC publicly identified the development of DRAM and other microelectronics technology as a national economic priority. The criminal defendants are United Microelectronics Corporation (“UMC”), a Taiwan semiconductor foundry; Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, Co., Ltd. (“Jinhua'”), a state-owned enterprise of the PRC; and three Taiwan nationals: Chen Zhengkun, a.k.a. Stephen Chen, age 55; He Jianting, a.k.a. J.T. Ho, age 42; and Wang Yungming, a.k.a. Kenny Wang, age 44. UMC is a publicly listed semiconductor foundry company traded on the New York Stock Exchange; is headquartered in Taiwan; and has offices worldwide, including in Sunnyvale, California. UMC mass produces integrated-circuit logic products based on designs and technology developed and provided by its customers. Jinhua is a state-owned enterprise of the PRC, funded entirely by the Chinese government, and established in February 2016 for the sole purpose of designing, developing, and manufacturing DRAM.

      According to the indictment, Chen was a General Manager and Chairman of an electronics corporation that Micron acquired in 2013. Chen then became the president of a Micron subsidiary in Taiwan, Micron Memory Taiwan (“MMT”), responsible for manufacturing at least one of Micron’s DRAM chips. Chen resigned from MMT in July 2015 and began working at UMC almost immediately. While at UMC, Chen arranged a cooperation agreement between UMC and Fujian Jinhua whereby, with funding from Fujian Jinhua, UMC would transfer DRAM technology to Fujian Jinhua to mass-produce. The technology would be jointly shared by both UMC and Fujian Jinhua. Chen later became the President of Jinhua and was put in charge of its DRAM production facility.

      While at UMC, Chen recruited numerous MMT employees, including Ho and Wang, to join him at UMC. Prior to leaving MMT, Ho and Wang both stole and brought to UMC several Micron trade secrets related to the design and manufacture of DRAM. Wang downloaded over 900 Micron confidential and proprietary files before he left MMT and stored them on USB external hard drives or in personal cloud storage, from where he could access the technology while working at UMC.

      The only thing that can be construed as bad is any of this is accessing files from your previous company after you have left the

    3. Re:The actual indictment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Benghazi" There was nothing to out in this particular case. It is no secret that the CIA make up part of the embassy staff at the US embassies around the world. Designating your spies as embassy staff gives them diplomatic immunity when they get caught. The worst that can happen is the person caught spying is asked to leave the country. It's SOP for every country at every embassy. More often than not the CIA, FSR, MSS, Mi6, MSS,... officers assigned to their embassies are used to coordinate their under cover espionage activities.

      The Benghazi attack was partly the result of the State Department's failure to do a credible threat assessment for that particular embassy. Threat assessments, especially in that part of the world, determine the amount of security should be allocated to an embassy. The big reason the attack happened can be placed squarely on the ass hats who ordered and carried out the attack. A series of late night raids and a large number of drone strikes handled the perpetrators and anyone standing to close to them when they realized the depth of their mistake. Since a drone strike was out of the questions for the state department it became a political witch hunt for our idiot politicians.

      The "Benghazi" attack was the result of the State Department failure in performing the threat level assessment which determines the amount of additional security the embassy should have. The State Department has did more harm for US foreign relations than any president could ever do. Under Obama the State Department was staffed by people who relished the policies of appeasement and paying out billions of dollars in foreign aid. Aid that never produces any ROI. Handing out money just results in the recipients coming back regularly with their hands out expecting more. There are worthy humanitarian problems around the world and if you want to help donate your own money. There are 1000's of private organizations performing humanitarian acts around the world that will welcome the contribution. The only country the US government should be worrying about is the US. That is the governments constitutional mandate. There is nothing in the Constitution that states the US government is responsible for taking care of the whole world using it's citizens tax dollars. If all the free handouts to the world actually provided any benefits we wouldn't have to spend so much money on the military. With the billions in foreign aid handed out over the years you would think the US would be the most beloved country on the planet but all you see is requests for more money and not a single shred of gratitude. One of the biggest reasons Trump won the Presidency was he was able to use the never ending insults and sniping that foreign countries like to heap upon the US. That foreign disdain filtered down to the regular citizens who probably didn't care one way or another about what happened outside of the US borders.

      accuse other countries of taking advantage of the US trade policies while at the same time demanding the US subsidize it's "'allies" militarily

    4. Re:The actual indictment by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 0

      George W Bush is, and has always been, a closet Progressive.

      He's no right-winger.

      Read his father's book about globalism and New World Order.

    5. Re:The actual indictment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy fix.

      Just poison the data and let them steal it and watch the fireworks when their fab machinery goes tits-up. Stuxnet on steroids.

      Nothing like a good well-thought-out plan. Be sure to give all the employees fake information all the time, just in case they decide to go work for the competition. What could go wrong?

      Though clearly from your "democrats wah wah" comment, you aren't the brightest person around.

    6. Re:The actual indictment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What would they attempt to steal the IP? They could not sell it. They would get sued into oblivion and it would threaten China's WTO status.

    7. Re: The actual indictment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The crimes of the father are passed to the child, eh?

      I suppose that only applies to those you (now, claim to) dislike.

      Just like all the Rs that claimed to be Tea partners after W invaded Iraq. And just like all the Trumplicans will claim to be "real" conservatives not the "nee" Republicans once that ongoing failure is exposed to even more sunlight.

      Trump, like pedophile Republican congressmen, will have the R switched to a D on Fox news in the end. Evil eats Its own.

  4. Parent is Trolling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be silly. Slashdot does not think patents and copyrights are bad in general just in specific cases usually pertaining to the duplication of media. This is actual quantifiable intellectual property whose sole value comes from it's exclusiveness. No one here is stupid enough to argue differently except you

  5. So the Trump Defense then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As if any caught criminal ever pleads anything but, "who, me - no way".

  6. Evil Communist China Steals by WCMI92 · · Score: 1

    Of Course.

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  7. Re: Well, this should be fun by Orange+Man+Bad · · Score: 1

    Orange Man Bad! Straw man argument smart!

  8. Greedy America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Greedy America steals technology from China. China works hards, applied the intelligence, and is victim of America Racism.

    1. Re:Greedy America by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      No greedy America spent most of the 19th Century stealing industrial secrets from Europe. What goes around comes around. Frankly I have no sympathy with the USA. On the other hand should they wish to return a few trillion dollars for all there previous stolen IP...

    2. Re:Greedy America by benjfowler · · Score: 1

      THIS is the standard wu mao response.

      The warped kleptocrat logic is that some Americans sailed close to the wind in the 1800s on IP... so China is now granted a perpetual license to steal expensively-produced from Western countries forever. Chinese thievery has ALREADY thrown thousands of Americans out of work, and cost people their pensions.

      In mainland Chinese culture, there is no honour and morality beyond winning at any cost, even if it means fucking somebody else over and ruining their life. Cultural degeneracy spawned by the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution, and survives in billions of petty dishonest things that Chinese people do every single day.

  9. Re:Well, this should be fun by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Did you just construct a gigantic strawman argument that says that anyone who is in favor of less government must support China stealing IP? Seriously? Please - for the love of God, please stop that. Argue in good faith, not in ridiculous exaggerations.

    I feel like you are arguing against what you imagine conservatives are saying. I'm so confused by your comment. Or, to put it a better way, you're arguing against what conservatives would have to say in order for your silly rhetoric to be taken seriously. Either way, it's strawmen all the way down. I remember hearing of studies (which I really need to chase down, if anyone has the reference I'd appreciate it) in which self-described "liberals" (or progressives) and conservatives were asked to describe how the other side would think of the issues. The conservatives proved to be pretty good at describing the leftists' positions, while the leftists were much worse at characterizing what their ideological opponents thought.

    Reference: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0050092

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  10. China can't deny they stole my idea... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who did it 1st: China or me? I did - dates are my proof https://theregister.co.uk/2017... w/ the FACT China rampantly STEALS U.S. Intellectual properties & military secrets!

    * IMITATION truly IS the SINCEREST FORM of FLATTERY!!!

    (... & proves hosts work vs. DNS faults in tracking you via dns request logs (since you avoid it & resolve FASTER locally using hosts) + DNS being downed OR Kaminsky REDIRECT security flaw misdirected poisoned (or vs. DNSChanger))

    APK

    P.S.=> Let me tell you ALL 1 thing: It's NOT EASY being "World-Class" like me (lol - 100,000++ users prove it for me) - enjoy the fruits of my labors for FREE + going FASTER/SAFER/MORE RELIABLY online (w/ a bit more anonymity too via my program)... apk

    1. Re:China can't deny they stole my idea... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China has better things to steal than your silly hosts file.

  11. Oh please. by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

    This behavior is learned early, early on.

    "Little Timmy, did you break that plate," the father asks.

    "Nuh-uh, 'twasn't me!' little Timmy replies, with an emphatic head shake."

    "Timmy... tell the truth, or no Internet for a week.."

    "Umm... ummm.,.. okkkaaaaay, i dropped it, but it was Suzie's fault! SHe bumped my arm while I was making lines on the plate with YOUR razor!"

    "Let's keep my involvement a secret. Here's a nickel bag for your trouble."

    When will people including world leaders realize that when the other party says "I didn't do it!" it really means "Hell yeah, I did that, and then some!"?!

    Denial = Guilt. I learned that as a ten year old watching the world around me, which back then was the Shah of Iran being deposed, our redonkidiculous governor's election in 1980 (puerto rico) and other political shenanigans. Oh yes lots of Russkie denials, lots of 'Murican denials, deny deny deny. Months, years later the denials turned out to be empty words, they all had done their respective Bad Thing.

    "Is Gramma dying?"

    Sad looks all about, then a calm "No, no she isn't."

    "Oh, ok," said the little boy, and went on to paint his latest model rocket. Not two hours later Gramma was dead. The little boy knew it was coming, he had never belived the "No" they had fed him that October, 1981.

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    1. Re:Oh please. by gtall · · Score: 2

      2 + 2 = 3. NO IT DOESN'T!!. There, incontrovertible evidence that 2 + 2 = 3.

  12. Just more American aggression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they have been making up charges against both important individuals, in the hope to sow some dissension in the ranks, and against important corporations. Eventually they will do the same shit against Europe, and get smacked down.

  13. China stealing IP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fujian is so full of shit it's leaking out of their collective eyeballs.

  14. Who did it 1st? Dates tell all... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They clearly DID steal (dates tell all) 1 technique I use that differentiates MY hosts program vs. ALL others (hardcodes). A technique that not only SPEEDS YOU UP (beyond ad & script tracker blocking) but also SECURES you vs. DNS security flaws + tracking!

    * Argue w/ the numbers (or rather, dates).

    SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE & ANSWER THAT QUESTION (oh, I KNOW you won't & you'll "Run, Forrest - RUN!!!" from it, lol!).

    APK

    P.S.=> Time & date - it's IRREFUTABLE evidence in MY favor, no questions asked... apk

  15. Re: Yea? I'm BETTER than CHINA... apk by Orange+Man+Bad · · Score: 0

    Uh what? Orange Man Bad!

  16. Chinese Water Army having problems? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese Water Army having problems PROVING time & dates in MY favor "wrong" here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ? Yes, lol!

    * One thing TROLLS of ANY KIND can't defeat, is fact... & the REAL FACT is the your "system" STIFLES the desire for ingenuity & creativity (no incentive for PERSONAL gain, only for "the party") - hence your NEED to thieve & for your "Chinese Water Army" bullshit.

    APK

    P.S.=> Even the TROLLS of the CHINESE WATER ARMY (look that up folks - don't be amazed - WEEZILS the world-over use the SAME inevitably DEFEATED + EXPOSED tricks along w/ being EXPOSED thieving ideas etc.) ... apk

  17. Did China offer to help solve the issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did China offer to help solve the issue or are they just denying?
    Speaks loudly.

    Didn't ZTE deny any wrong-doing? Why did the US govt retract their sanctions against that company? Someone get paid off?

  18. Feels unfamiliar and new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't recall many headlines like this from the 2008-2016 period..

  19. How do we know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well the USA hacked into THEIR systems to steal secrets and they found them.

    The rest of the world is taking the approach that if the Trump government says anything, its most likely an "alternative truth".

    This is just as likely the USA trying to stir up more anti-China feelings because US officials KNOW China is about to take over the lead in many areas from the USA.

    1. Re:How do we know by benjfowler · · Score: 1

      It's a bit more obvious than that.

      Like in the case of Nortel, where Huawei got rich by stealing Nortel's IP, destroying their business and sending them broke, throwing thousands of people out of work.

      Then Huawei switching gear turned up made to stolen designs, running Nortel's stolen firmware.

  20. STFU you slant-eyed WEEZIL... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & DENY a fact China stole a technique that differentiates MY hosts prog vs. all others https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * Good luck that - TIME (& dates) WORK AGAINST ANY BULLSHIT you spew vs. it!

    APK

    P.S.=> WTF are you? Some "commie sympathizer" OR part of the "Chinese Water Army" (a troll p.r. construct CHINA uses - look it up)??... apk

  21. Fantasy numbers.... by gweihir · · Score: 1

    While it is certainly unpleasant to admit, the Chinese are probably only spying these days because everybody does it. They likely do not need to. The US, on the other hand...

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    1. Re:Fantasy numbers.... by benjfowler · · Score: 1

      The Chinese steal, because they need to. Most of the stealing is Chinese stealing American and European IP. Why is that?

      P.S. how's your domestic turbofan engine going? ;-)
        That is fucking HILARIOUS, because jet engine technology is about the only IP that cannot be stolen.
        Interesting, that.

    2. Re: Fantasy numbers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia has no problem selling them state of the art turbofans. Donâ(TM)t even try to be silly enough to think American jet propulsion is better than Russian engines.

      At what point does GE go bankrupt btw?

  22. Re:Fucking crafty chinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those Chinese, with their foreign military bases all over the world, sailing warships all over the world.. constantly throwing their weight aroudn with the russians..

    when will they ever learn?

    thankfully the US war machine has a soloution, which hasnt worked so far.. but maybe this time will be different?

  23. Chinese Water Army having problems? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese Water Army (look that up) having problems PROVING time & dates in MY favor "wrong" here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ? Yes, lol!

    * One thing TROLLS of ANY KIND can't defeat, is fact - Even the TROLLS of the CHINESE WATER ARMY (look that up folks - don't be amazed - WEEZILS the world-over use the SAME inevitably DEFEATED + EXPOSED tricks along w/ being EXPOSED thieving ideas etc.)!

    APK

    P.S.=> ... & the REAL FACT is the your "system" STIFLES the desire for ingenuity & creativity (no incentive for PERSONAL gain, only for "the party") - hence your NEED to thieve & for your "Chinese Water Army" bullshit... apk

  24. Yea? I'm BETTER than CHINA... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea? I'm BETTER than CHINA w/ proof ("time will tell" & it tells ALL by DATE) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * I've got ZERO RESPECT for them (no better than "OpenSORES" thieves) & I could give 2 SHITS whether THEY respect ME or not (but clearly, they DO respect me - they stole MY idea (see link above)).

    APK

    P.S.=> They'll destroy themselves as any DICTATORSHIP always inevitably does since the 1 thing mankind in general cannot stand or endure long is ENSLAVEMENT or IMPRISONMENT (& that's EXACTLY what their nation's governmental philosophy IS - & sociopath MORONS like Rockefeller that UGLY 2" dick freak ADMIRED them? Please - birds of a feather losers)... apk

  25. Reminds me WMD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are going to start a war, you need to make up some excuses.

  26. Chinese EE grad students... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any idea what percentage of grad students in US Universities getting a masters / phd in electrical engineering are American?

    Iâ(TM)ll give you a hint - in 2004 I was the *only* American at Univ of Florida getting my ms in ee. ALL the rest were foreigners and 70% of those Chinese.

    Whoâ(TM)s fault is that?

  27. China not stealing is as credible as Trump's facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one believes a nation of cheaters, cut your BS China

  28. IP by JThundley · · Score: 1

    This isn't property and thus can't be stolen.

  29. Re: Fucking crafty chinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The American war machine seems to have kept Russia in Its frigid hell hole well enough the last sixty-seventy years. Enough so that they need to use troll posters on foreign message boards to het a message out. Y'all can't even take Ukraine. Maybe send more "vacationers" there.

    Or are you running out of potatoes for your liquid courage?

  30. What's the fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US violates intellectual property rights of other coutries all the time.