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Chinese Chip Firm Fujian Jinhua Denies Stealing IP From Micron (reuters.com)
Last Thursday, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced charges against Chinese state-owned Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Co. and privately owned United Microelectronics Corporation of Taiwan for stealing an estimated $8.75 billion worth of trade secrets from U.S. semiconductor giant Micron. On Saturday, Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Co denied the charges. "Behavior to steal another firm's technology does not exist," Fujian Jinhua said in a statement. "Micron regards the development of Fujian Jinhua as a threat and adopts various means to hamper and destroy the development of Fujian Jinhua." The company "always attaches great importance to the protection of intellectual property rights," Fujian Jinhua added. Reuters reports: The move to block Fujian Jinhua escalated what until now had been a business dispute into the realm of an international trade conflict between the United States and China. The world's top two economies are already waging a tariff war over their trade disputes, with U.S. duties in place on $250 billion worth of Chinese goods and Chinese duties on $110 billion of U.S. goods. The U.S. moves could seriously damage the ambitions of Fujian Jinhua, a firm of strategic importance to China.
Does anyone admit anything these days?
sudo rm -r -f --no-preserve-root /
"Hey, Jeff!" "Yeah, Boss!" "Micron says we stole their IP. Is that true"? "Lessee, Micropolis, Microprose, Microsoft... Nope. Not Micron." "Thanks. I'll tell the press that we specifically didn't steal IP from Micron. We're a firm of high integrity."
The indictment alleges conspiracy to steal secrets. Which is slightly different than actually having stolen secrets. Thus the company needs to actually dispute this by saying "we didn't plan to steal secrets" or "the stolen secrets we received were not known to be stolen by us". Simply saying they didn't steal the secrets isn't a denial.
the path here is indirect and while showing the pattern of a conspiracy has many layers of companies fronting this operation. It's not entirely unlike how Uber ended up with Waymo desgins
from the primary source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...
According to the indictment, the defendants were engaged in a conspiracy to steal the trade secrets of Micron Technology, Inc. (Micron), a leader in the global semiconductor industry specializing in the advanced research, development, and manufacturing of memory products, including dynamic random-access memory (DRAM). DRAM is a leading-edge memory storage device used in computer electronics. Micron is the only United States-based company that manufactures DRAM. According to the indictment, Micron maintains a significant competitive advantage in this field due in large part from its intellectual property, including its trade secrets that include detailed, confidential information pertaining to the design, development, and manufacturing of advanced DRAM products.
Prior to the events described in the indictment, the PRC did not possess DRAM technology, and the Central Government and State Council of the PRC publicly identified the development of DRAM and other microelectronics technology as a national economic priority. The criminal defendants are United Microelectronics Corporation (“UMC”), a Taiwan semiconductor foundry; Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, Co., Ltd. (“Jinhua'”), a state-owned enterprise of the PRC; and three Taiwan nationals: Chen Zhengkun, a.k.a. Stephen Chen, age 55; He Jianting, a.k.a. J.T. Ho, age 42; and Wang Yungming, a.k.a. Kenny Wang, age 44. UMC is a publicly listed semiconductor foundry company traded on the New York Stock Exchange; is headquartered in Taiwan; and has offices worldwide, including in Sunnyvale, California. UMC mass produces integrated-circuit logic products based on designs and technology developed and provided by its customers. Jinhua is a state-owned enterprise of the PRC, funded entirely by the Chinese government, and established in February 2016 for the sole purpose of designing, developing, and manufacturing DRAM.
According to the indictment, Chen was a General Manager and Chairman of an electronics corporation that Micron acquired in 2013. Chen then became the president of a Micron subsidiary in Taiwan, Micron Memory Taiwan (“MMT”), responsible for manufacturing at least one of Micron’s DRAM chips. Chen resigned from MMT in July 2015 and began working at UMC almost immediately. While at UMC, Chen arranged a cooperation agreement between UMC and Fujian Jinhua whereby, with funding from Fujian Jinhua, UMC would transfer DRAM technology to Fujian Jinhua to mass-produce. The technology would be jointly shared by both UMC and Fujian Jinhua. Chen later became the President of Jinhua and was put in charge of its DRAM production facility.
While at UMC, Chen recruited numerous MMT employees, including Ho and Wang, to join him at UMC. Prior to leaving MMT, Ho and Wang both stole and brought to UMC several Micron trade secrets related to the design and manufacture of DRAM. Wang downloaded over 900 Micron confidential and proprietary files before he left MMT and stored them on USB external hard drives or in personal cloud storage, from where he could access the technology while working at UMC.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Of Course.
Corporatism != Free Market
Orange Man Bad! Straw man argument smart!
Did you just construct a gigantic strawman argument that says that anyone who is in favor of less government must support China stealing IP? Seriously? Please - for the love of God, please stop that. Argue in good faith, not in ridiculous exaggerations.
I feel like you are arguing against what you imagine conservatives are saying. I'm so confused by your comment. Or, to put it a better way, you're arguing against what conservatives would have to say in order for your silly rhetoric to be taken seriously. Either way, it's strawmen all the way down. I remember hearing of studies (which I really need to chase down, if anyone has the reference I'd appreciate it) in which self-described "liberals" (or progressives) and conservatives were asked to describe how the other side would think of the issues. The conservatives proved to be pretty good at describing the leftists' positions, while the leftists were much worse at characterizing what their ideological opponents thought.
Reference: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0050092
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
This behavior is learned early, early on.
"Little Timmy, did you break that plate," the father asks.
"Nuh-uh, 'twasn't me!' little Timmy replies, with an emphatic head shake."
"Timmy... tell the truth, or no Internet for a week.."
"Umm... ummm.,.. okkkaaaaay, i dropped it, but it was Suzie's fault! SHe bumped my arm while I was making lines on the plate with YOUR razor!"
"Let's keep my involvement a secret. Here's a nickel bag for your trouble."
When will people including world leaders realize that when the other party says "I didn't do it!" it really means "Hell yeah, I did that, and then some!"?!
Denial = Guilt. I learned that as a ten year old watching the world around me, which back then was the Shah of Iran being deposed, our redonkidiculous governor's election in 1980 (puerto rico) and other political shenanigans. Oh yes lots of Russkie denials, lots of 'Murican denials, deny deny deny. Months, years later the denials turned out to be empty words, they all had done their respective Bad Thing.
"Is Gramma dying?"
Sad looks all about, then a calm "No, no she isn't."
"Oh, ok," said the little boy, and went on to paint his latest model rocket. Not two hours later Gramma was dead. The little boy knew it was coming, he had never belived the "No" they had fed him that October, 1981.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
No greedy America spent most of the 19th Century stealing industrial secrets from Europe. What goes around comes around. Frankly I have no sympathy with the USA. On the other hand should they wish to return a few trillion dollars for all there previous stolen IP...
While it is certainly unpleasant to admit, the Chinese are probably only spying these days because everybody does it. They likely do not need to. The US, on the other hand...
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
THIS is the standard wu mao response.
The warped kleptocrat logic is that some Americans sailed close to the wind in the 1800s on IP... so China is now granted a perpetual license to steal expensively-produced from Western countries forever. Chinese thievery has ALREADY thrown thousands of Americans out of work, and cost people their pensions.
In mainland Chinese culture, there is no honour and morality beyond winning at any cost, even if it means fucking somebody else over and ruining their life. Cultural degeneracy spawned by the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution, and survives in billions of petty dishonest things that Chinese people do every single day.
It's a bit more obvious than that.
Like in the case of Nortel, where Huawei got rich by stealing Nortel's IP, destroying their business and sending them broke, throwing thousands of people out of work.
Then Huawei switching gear turned up made to stolen designs, running Nortel's stolen firmware.
This isn't property and thus can't be stolen.