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Existing Laser Technology Could Be Fashioned Into Earth's 'Porch Light' To Attract Alien Astronomers, Study Finds (mit.edu)

If extraterrestrial intelligence exists somewhere in our galaxy, a new MIT study proposes that laser technology on Earth could, in principle, be fashioned into something of a planetary porch light -- a beacon strong enough to attract attention from as far as 20,000 light years away. From a report: The research, which author James Clark calls a "feasibility study," appears today in The Astrophysical Journal. The findings suggest that if a high-powered 1- to 2-megawatt laser were focused through a massive 30- to 45-meter telescope and aimed out into space, the combination would produce a beam of infrared radiation strong enough to stand out from the sun's energy. Such a signal could be detectable by alien astronomers performing a cursory survey of our section of the Milky Way -- especially if those astronomers live in nearby systems, such as around Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to Earth, or TRAPPIST-1, a star about 40 light-years away that hosts seven exoplanets, three of which are potentially habitable. If the signal is spotted from either of these nearby systems, the study finds, the same megawatt laser could be used to send a brief message in the form of pulses similar to Morse code.

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  1. Is it a good idea? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Imagine some primitive stone age tribe living in some island in the Pacific. Never knew if they were alone on the Earth or some other humans existed elsewhere. Some Chief gets the bright idea to send smoke signals so that if there are people somewhere in the ocean they will know there are people on this island.

    Any tribe that had such an idea in the 15th and 16th century would have been run over and destroyed before they even know what was happening.

    Why would you assume the aliens will be any less brutal than the 16th century European explorers?

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    1. Re:Is it a good idea? by Kulahan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It wouldn't even be that close. It would be like if we had another 500 years to develop our military technology, and these were people who had never even seen electricity harnessed before. We show up with fucking mech walkers and sniper rifles with 2 mile ranges and fighter jets that are naked to the human eye and they're throwing rocks and sticks at us.

      Any alien that can come say hello would be so far out of our league we'd be like ants to them - barely smarter than the monkeys and dogs and kangaroos around us as far as they're concerned.

    2. Re:Is it a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Humans are brutal in general, regardless of tribal identity or history. There's this weird recent idea that western=bad, primitive-people=good, and it's just as idiotic as the reverse that people used to believe. The Noble Savage and all that shit like you might see in Dances With Wolves. It's all a lot of malarky. It's hippie nonsense stemming from the belief that modern society is corrupt, and somehow living in caves was some wonderful, freeing thing where it was some great society.

      Why does either extreme not understand human nature? Go read Lord Of The Flies. That's what humans are actually like.

    3. Re: Is it a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You've seriously never heard of the "Noble Savage" concept? Because it's a concept that criticizes the sort of thing you're upset about. I think you've misunderstood the comment you're replying to.

    4. Re:Is it a good idea? by gumpish · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have a hard time imagining the mindset of someone who thinks interstellar civilizations will be like Vikings, but with space ships.

    5. Re:Is it a good idea? by jpaine619 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fact that you insist on referring to non-Western Europeans as "savages" strongly indicates that you're a dickhead.

      That's what they were referred to as, at the time. Better get back inside before you melt, snowflake.

    6. Re: Is it a good idea? by e3m4n · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was literally the last warning from Steven Hawkings. History is full of examples of what happens when one civilization meets another civilization that is vastly ahead in technology. It has always ended badly for the ones with inferior technology.

      https://www.sciencealert.com/s...

    7. Re:Is it a good idea? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He is not calling non-westerns "Savages". He is referring to the LITERARY TROPE of the Noble Savage (and calling it stupid): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Try a little harder to be offended?

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    8. Re:Is it a good idea? by k2r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > So why is AC still using the term "savages" to refer to non
      > Western European cultures, and why the fuck are you defending the practice?

      And why the fuck don’t you at least TRY to educate yourself on the term “Noble Savage” and it’s contemporary usage which is exactly criticizing the pseudo-positive racism, colonialism and paternalism that is inherent in the combination of those words.

      Bah, all hope is lost if even people on your side of the trench can’t be bothered to think.

  2. If Extra Terrestrials exist... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we're not alone in the universe- I would like to know about our neighbours before they know about us.

    Sending an unsolicited welcome beacon into the night could be catastrophic. If they're able to read it and respond they're probably more advanced than us. If they're more advanced than us they might not want to share the galaxy with another species who one day might evolve to challenge them or threaten them. There is no guarantee that any aliens out there would share our sentimentality to life. Or even want to meet alien species.

    If their civilization has advanced far enough to be guided by Artificial Intelligence, certainly AI would decide the logical thing to do is remove a future threat before it becomes a threat. This isn't Star Trek, you can't guarantee that Mr. and Mrs. Greenface want to drink Romulan Ale with you and be best buds with you. Any species that survives to the space age needs some logic. Logic will tell you intelligent alien species could be a potential threat.

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  3. Re:That's a serious ping time by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's okay! It's only 1 or 2 megawatts continuously for those 10 years!

    That's only $21 million in electricity costs alone, and 100,000 metric tons of CO2 added to the atmosphere. Surely, that's a small price to pay to be good celestial neighbors...

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  4. Obligatory xkcd by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What, nobody has posted the obligatory xkcd yet?

    fish.

    ... and also, are you sure we're looking for the right thing? ants

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  5. Re:That's a serious ping time by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's okay! It's only 1 or 2 megawatts continuously for those 10 years!

    That's only $21 million in electricity costs alone, and 100,000 metric tons of CO2 added to the atmosphere. Surely, that's a small price to pay to be good celestial neighbors...

    So.....just the equivalent of a handful of bitcoin miners? That's not too bad.

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  6. Re: Remember Stephen Hawking's warning by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's where he was wrong; it turned out very well.