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Facebook's Unsend Feature Will Give You 10 Minutes To Delete a Message (theverge.com)
Earlier this year, Mark Zuckerberg came under fire after he and other executives removed their Facebook messages from several recipients' inboxes. The move led many to question whether the company would give other users the option to unsend messages. According to Twitter user @MattNavarra, the answer is yes. The feature has been listed as "coming soon" in the release notes for version 191.0 of Messenger's iOS client. The Verge reports: Facebook Messenger will soon allow you to delete sent messages up to 10 minutes after you've originally sent them. Compared to the hour Facebook gives you to delete an erroneous WhatsApp message, 10 minutes doesn't give you too much time to correct yourself. But it's a lot better than having your mistakes preserved eternally.
*This* is one of the reasons they'll pry "classical" mail from my dead, cold hands.
All those idiots pushing Discourse and whatnot. My inbox is mine, and whenever anything enters it, *I* fucking decide about its fate. No shit.
How good is this feature? Can you unsend everything you ever typed? Will the recipient forget reading them?
How about we give FB 4 minutes to stop and think about itself?
Should help everyone.
Still can't tell why no one implements a proper email system with an understanding of time. In such a system, this feature would be easily implemented with a default actual delivery time of 10 minutes after the Send button, but until the actual delivery you could cancel the send. If 10 minutes isn't right for you, then you could set it for any other time you want.
In my own case, I would probably prefer an hour for non-urgent email. Too many times that I've had second thoughts. Plus, I think it's actually a benefit to send less email to people. If there's an urgent email option, then the send would both mark the subject with an urgent flag and send it immediately even if my default delay was longer.
The same approach to email could apply to scheduling email that doesn't need to go out for several days. I could compose an immediate reply, and schedule it for future delivery. I would probably want a reminder a day before the actual delivery just in case I had additional thoughts. Again, that is something that often happens.
By the way, I was actually joking when I said I can't tell why. I think the why is that very few people think in terms of time over money. Everything looks different after you understand how important time is relative to everything else. And that's enough time for this topic for now, but I bid you ADSAuPR, atAJG.
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I was just thinking the other day that this feature should be part of the SMTP standard, or at least most email clients!
Like the edit feature on Slashdot?
People is already sending messages without reading and thinking.
This "feature" will give users a false perception and they will rely on it to be more and more careless.
There's no message sent by error. They are all sent by carelessness.
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
Why hasn't slashdot the ability to unsend or unwrite my own post?
I also need to add "unread", so I can forse users to forget what they already read.
I need those now!
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
"But it's a lot better than having your mistakes preserved eternally."
you mean it's not being displayed, because it will be preserved on facebook servers eternally. just like all the facebook sttaus updates you make, but then cancel, are also stored in your profile (but not displayed).
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Fuck Facebook and whatever it does.
"10 minutes doesn't give you too much time to correct yourself. But it's a lot better than having your mistakes preserved eternally."
You can bet your ass they'll be preserved eternally, they may just not be *public*.
(I'm perm-banned on two accounts.)
The old MSMail had this on NT server. You could unsend an unread message, but not if it was read. Seemed to work fine.
This needs a centralized sever to work well but that's what FB has.
It's harder with federation like SMTP. I seem to recall Usenet had a cancel-message format. Like return-receipt, doing this on SMTP would be up to the client to honor, but that would have been better than all the "ignore my last message, this one is corrected" messages all the time. Heck, there must be a dusty RFC on this.
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Sounds like a good tool for trolls. Send harassing message; delete; repeat. I'm waiting for the story where someone sends 10,378 messages to their ex over the course of a day, deleting them all, forgetting that there's such a thing as screenshots.
Zuckerberg came under fire after he and other executives removed their Facebook messages from several recipients' inboxes. The move led many to question whether the company would give other users the option to unsend messages.
Framing this as user envy (of the ability to delete messages) is a red herring. Zuck deleting messages was wrong because it's a coverup. Even if every user had had the ability to delete messages, executive communications should be held to a higher standard; in the world of governance, silent unannounced redactions are for weasles and crooks.
10 minutes doesn't give you too much time to correct yourself. But it's a lot better than having your mistakes preserved eternally.
Bad phrasing. Your mistakes are still preserved eternally, just after a 10 minute delay. This mea culpa from Facebook is a weak token gesture, which still doesn't give users the same powers the execs exercised, while attempting to make people think that the original execs act is now whitewashed.
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
Deleting Facebook.
So you have 10 minutes to sober up and realize that late night message to your ex was a mistake!
then the message won't reach the recipient for 10 minutes at least.
or have they actually invented a time maxhine
cue Cher: If I could turn back time
But it's a lot better than having your mistakes preserved eternally.
Unless it's in the TOS, you should have no expectation whatsoever that your "deleted" messages are NOT preserved eternally. Don't kid yourself. Facebook keeps everything, Facebook sells everything. They long ago redefined the word "delete" to mean "do not show to end-user".
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